Gareth Magennis wrote:
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> > I recently keep coming across brand new unsold equipment which has been
> > supplied with a fast blow mains fuse that has blown at turn on.
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> > This is from more than one manufacturer.
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> ** A friend who did Fender warranty work was getting a lot "failed on the
> showroom floor" amps. Always the same, an F1A or F1.6A supply fuse popped.
> Fitted a T fuse instead and no more problem. Of course, the fuses concerned
> were buried inside on the main PCB !!
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> T fuses were not always easy to buy, so it was common to use an oversize F
> fuse instead - labelling often encouraged you to do so.
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> Whatever the combination of dumb ideas, it is not hard to do a number of
> on-off cycles while keeping a close eye on an F fuse. If it bends severely
> at switch on it's gonna fail soon.
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> Fender is one culprit.
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> Most others are Active studio monitors of various brands.
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** I assume the fuses supplied ARE as marked on the schems and PCBs ?
The Fender HR Deluxe, 40W all tube amp, comes supplied with F1.6A
fuses fitted for 230/240VAC use.
https://schematicheaven.net/fenderamps/hotrod_deluxe.pdf
Despite the NTC device, the fuse value is right on the limit for
tolerating worst case, inrush surges.
With such amps, the power transformer surges hard when the AC supply is
switched on near a supply voltage zero crossing - plus tube heaters draw
significant extra current when first turned on ( about 6 times the rated
amount ) and lastly the filter electros caps surge if the supply is switched
near a supply voltage peak.
A last straw step happens when the operator flicks the AC switch on then off and quickly on again - as could easily happen playing about with an unfamiliar amp in a store. Surging the delicate F fuse wire while it is still hot.
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> Most others are Active studio monitors of various brands.
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** Double surging an F fuse would be likely here too, whether the PSU is transformer or SM.
.... Phil