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Suitable Substitute for Freon TF Solvent
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RL Anderson
Sep 26, 2011, 10:45:43 PM9/26/11
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Hi Folks,
Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
it did such a great job.
Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
the job.
Any assistance would be greatly helpful.
Thanks much.
Rick
Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
it did such a great job.
Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
the job.
Any assistance would be greatly helpful.
Thanks much.
Rick
Jeff Liebermann
Sep 26, 2011, 11:39:11 PM9/26/11
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:45:43 -0700, RL Anderson
<RLAnd...@arczip.com> wrote:
>Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
>used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
>it did such a great job.
>
>Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
>available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
>gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
>as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
>available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
>the job.
What are you cleaning? Any chlorinated hydrocarbon solvent will work,
<RLAnd...@arczip.com> wrote:
>Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
>used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
>it did such a great job.
>
>Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
>available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
>gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
>as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
>available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
>the job.
but it might also attack the material you're trying to clean.
CaiKleen NF
<http://store.caig.com/s.nl/ctype.KB/it.I/id.394/KB.218/.f>
<http://store.caig.com/s.nl?sc=2&category=&ctype=KB&KB=218&search=CaiKleen%20NF>
I haven't tried the stuff (yet).
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# 831-336-2558
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Winston
Sep 26, 2011, 11:46:31 PM9/26/11
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RL Anderson wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
> used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
> it did such a great job.
>
> Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
> available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
> gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
> as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
> available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
> the job.
Try naphtha. Be very careful because it is flammable
> Hi Folks,
>
> Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
> used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
> it did such a great job.
>
> Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
> available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
> gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
> as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
> available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
> the job.
and extremely volatile. Use lots of ventilation.
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926175
--Winston
hrho...@att.net
Sep 27, 2011, 11:39:25 AM9/27/11
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remover when desperate.
Winston
Sep 27, 2011, 2:48:43 PM9/27/11
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(...)
>> Try naphtha. Be very careful because it is flammable
>> and extremely volatile. Use lots of ventilation.
>>
>> http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926175
>>
>> --Winston
>
> I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
> remover when desperate.
Cheap local sources have dried up for me.
I understand that the stuff is used in
preparing drugs now. I can get it as
Coleman Camping Fuel in gallons but I'm
always asked "where are you camping?"
as if they had the slightest interest.
:)
--Winston
>> Try naphtha. Be very careful because it is flammable
>> and extremely volatile. Use lots of ventilation.
>>
>> http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9926175
>>
>> --Winston
>
> I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
> remover when desperate.
I understand that the stuff is used in
preparing drugs now. I can get it as
Coleman Camping Fuel in gallons but I'm
always asked "where are you camping?"
as if they had the slightest interest.
:)
--Winston
Jeff Liebermann
Sep 27, 2011, 3:09:16 PM9/27/11
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "hrho...@att.net"
<hrho...@att.net> wrote:
>I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
>remover when desperate.
Which one?
<hrho...@att.net> wrote:
>I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
>remover when desperate.
<http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/423.html>
Using paint stripper is probably overkill for contact cleaning. All
those mentioned are hazardous in some manner. All of those mentioned
will eat plastics. However, when desperate, I use automotive brake
cleaner (hexane, xylene, ethyl benzene, toluene, methyl alcohol, etc).
Unfortunately, it's almost as toxic and also eats plastic.
--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Winston
Sep 27, 2011, 3:29:10 PM9/27/11
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "hrho...@att.net"
> <hrho...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
>> remover when desperate.
>
> Which one?
> <http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/423.html>
> Using paint stripper is probably overkill for contact cleaning. All
> those mentioned are hazardous in some manner. All of those mentioned
> will eat plastics.
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "hrho...@att.net"
> <hrho...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
>> remover when desperate.
>
> Which one?
> <http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/423.html>
> Using paint stripper is probably overkill for contact cleaning. All
> those mentioned are hazardous in some manner. All of those mentioned
> will eat plastics.
I haven't seen any problem with VM&P Naphtha on plastics,
(whatever VM&P *really* is.) :)
It is really gentle and will clean gunk off of plastic
coated flooring (for example) without any damage to
the surface.
> However, when desperate, I use automotive brake
> cleaner (hexane, xylene, ethyl benzene, toluene, methyl alcohol, etc).
> Unfortunately, it's almost as toxic and also eats plastic.
Nasty-in-a-can.
--Winston
Dave Platt
Sep 27, 2011, 4:19:57 PM9/27/11
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In article <MPG.28ead8b58...@news.eternal-september.org>,
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RL Anderson <RLAnd...@arczip.com> wrote:
>Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
>used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
>it did such a great job.
>
>Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
>available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
>gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
>as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
>available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
>the job.
Some of the DuPont "Vertrel" solvent products might suit, perhaps?
>Many years ago, while I was a telephone central office technician, I
>used to use a lot of Freon TF solvent. I really loved using it because
>it did such a great job.
>
>Fast forward to today. I realize that this solvent has not been
>available for quite some time. I would like to "pick the brains" of the
>gurus in the group on what solvent is available that is almost as good
>as Freon TF. I have some cleaning that needs to be done and most of the
>available solvents, from some comments I have checked out, are not up to
>the job.
--
Dave Platt <dpl...@radagast.org> AE6EO
Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
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boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!
Jim Yanik
Sep 27, 2011, 5:55:28 PM9/27/11
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Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:2574871q9tkbr0mfa...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "hrho...@att.net"
><hrho...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
>>remover when desperate.
>
> Which one?
><http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/423.html>
> Using paint stripper is probably overkill for contact cleaning. All
> those mentioned are hazardous in some manner. All of those mentioned
> will eat plastics. However, when desperate, I use automotive brake
> cleaner (hexane, xylene, ethyl benzene, toluene, methyl alcohol, etc).
> Unfortunately, it's almost as toxic and also eats plastic.
>
>
>
perhaps automotive Mass Air Flow Sensor cleaner would work?
my can of CRC cleaner says it's plastic safe and leaves no residue,and you
can find it at most auto parts stores and even Wal-Mart.
it's around $3 per 11 oz can.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
news:2574871q9tkbr0mfa...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:39:25 -0700 (PDT), "hrho...@att.net"
><hrho...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>I use naptha as a good general purpose solvent, and resort to paint
>>remover when desperate.
>
> Which one?
><http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/423.html>
> Using paint stripper is probably overkill for contact cleaning. All
> those mentioned are hazardous in some manner. All of those mentioned
> will eat plastics. However, when desperate, I use automotive brake
> cleaner (hexane, xylene, ethyl benzene, toluene, methyl alcohol, etc).
> Unfortunately, it's almost as toxic and also eats plastic.
>
>
>
my can of CRC cleaner says it's plastic safe and leaves no residue,and you
can find it at most auto parts stores and even Wal-Mart.
it's around $3 per 11 oz can.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Winston
Sep 27, 2011, 6:47:20 PM9/27/11
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Jim Yanik wrote:
(...)
> perhaps automotive Mass Air Flow Sensor cleaner would work?
> my can of CRC cleaner says it's plastic safe and leaves no residue,and you
> can find it at most auto parts stores and even Wal-Mart.
> it's around $3 per 11 oz can.
>
So that's pressurized naphtha and mineral spirits
for 34.91 a gallon, yes?
http://www.crcindustries.com/faxdocs/msds/5025.pdf
Coleman Camp Fuel is still around $11.00 a gallon.
For The Moment. :)
--Winston
(...)
> perhaps automotive Mass Air Flow Sensor cleaner would work?
> my can of CRC cleaner says it's plastic safe and leaves no residue,and you
> can find it at most auto parts stores and even Wal-Mart.
> it's around $3 per 11 oz can.
>
for 34.91 a gallon, yes?
http://www.crcindustries.com/faxdocs/msds/5025.pdf
Coleman Camp Fuel is still around $11.00 a gallon.
For The Moment. :)
--Winston
raypsi
Sep 30, 2011, 7:45:24 PM9/30/11
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On Sep 26, 10:45 pm, RL Anderson <RLAnder...@arczip.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
One word WD40.
I got turned onto WD40 at first I said no freaking way, but seen
results of other techs using it so I said wtf. Been using WD40 for
almost everything since the 1990's
> Hi Folks,
One word WD40.
I got turned onto WD40 at first I said no freaking way, but seen
results of other techs using it so I said wtf. Been using WD40 for
almost everything since the 1990's
Michael A. Terrell
Oct 1, 2011, 1:39:06 AM10/1/11
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dangerous. Freon was used to clean video tape heads and remove any
trace of petroleum products. Freon was also used to remove flux from
circuit boards in a closed system that recovered & reused the freon.
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