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Percival P. Cassidy

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Oct 10, 2018, 6:45:28 PM10/10/18
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I ran the clean cycle on our Cuisinart DCC-2650 coffee maker, but then
when I went to rinse it with clean water it didn't heat up.

I removed the screws from the metal bottom plate, but it seems that that
was a mistake, because when I removed the deep-set screws in the plastic
part of the bottom and removed the whole bottom everything was
disconnected from that metal plate, and I can't see exactly where
everything fitted.

More precisely: there is a Q8025J6 Triac hanging by its wire leads,
which are held against the edge of a clear plastic part, and an aluminum
plate (heat sink) but I can't figure out exactly how they go back together.

And IAC if the Triac is the problem, so far I've only found companies
selling them in minimum lots of 50.

Perce

Percival P. Cassidy

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Oct 11, 2018, 9:35:28 AM10/11/18
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I figured out how everything goes back together, but of course it still
didn't work, so I did a little probing with the bottom (plastic plus
metal plus everything attached to the metal again) off and the thing
plugged in. I measured 120V across the outer shells of what I assume are
thermal fuses with their leads spot-welded to the terminals of the
heating element, but nothing across the terminals of the element. One of
those thermal fuses is bad, but with no way of spot-welding a
replacement in place is there any practical way of fixing it?

Perce

gghe...@gmail.com

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Oct 11, 2018, 9:58:26 AM10/11/18
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I had a coffee maker with failed thermal fuse. There were two in series
and I just jumpered the bad one. This had spade type connectors...
maybe post pic and someone will have an idea.

George H.
(I have a hate/love relation with coffee makers... well mostly hate.)

Percival P. Cassidy

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Oct 11, 2018, 10:36:45 AM10/11/18
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On 10/11/18 9:58 AM, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> I ran the clean cycle on our Cuisinart DCC-2650 coffee maker, but then
>>> when I went to rinse it with clean water it didn't heat up.
>>>
>>> I removed the screws from the metal bottom plate, but it seems that that
>>> was a mistake, because when I removed the deep-set screws in the plastic
>>> part of the bottom and removed the whole bottom everything was
>>> disconnected from that metal plate, and I can't see exactly where
>>> everything fitted.
>>>
>>> More precisely: there is a Q8025J6 Triac hanging by its wire leads,
>>> which are held against the edge of a clear plastic part, and an aluminum
>>> plate (heat sink) but I can't figure out exactly how they go back together.
>>>
>>> And IAC if the Triac is the problem, so far I've only found companies
>>> selling them in minimum lots of 50.
>>
>> I figured out how everything goes back together, but of course it still
>> didn't work, so I did a little probing with the bottom (plastic plus
>> metal plus everything attached to the metal again) off and the thing
>> plugged in. I measured 120V across the outer shells of what I assume are
>> thermal fuses with their leads spot-welded to the terminals of the
>> heating element, but nothing across the terminals of the element. One of
>> those thermal fuses is bad, but with no way of spot-welding a
>> replacement in place is there any practical way of fixing it?

> I had a coffee maker with failed thermal fuse. There were two in series
> and I just jumpered the bad one. This had spade type connectors...
> maybe post pic and someone will have an idea.

You seem to be posting via Google Groups, whereas I am posting to UseNet
with no possibility of attaching pictures.

eBay has multiple listings for thermal fuses for Bunn coffee makers, but
I would still have to find a way of connecting one in circuit: solder is
out, so I'd have to find crimp connectors of appropriate size.

Perce

Mike Coon

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Oct 11, 2018, 11:02:07 AM10/11/18
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In article <g295fo...@mid.individual.net>, Nob...@NotMyISP.net
says...
>
> You seem to be posting via Google Groups, whereas I am posting to
UseNet
> with no possibility of attaching pictures.
> Perce

You don't have to "attach"; put a photo anywhere on the web (Dropbox etc
etc) and include a URL...

Mike.

Klay Anderson

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Oct 11, 2018, 11:43:34 AM10/11/18
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On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 4:45:28 PM UTC-6, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> I ran the clean cycle on our Cuisinart DCC-2650 coffee maker, but then
> when I went to rinse it with clean water it didn't heat up.
>

This needs boiling water. No CPU, no Triac, no cords <https://goo.gl/89Mpdp>.

peterw...@gmail.com

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Oct 12, 2018, 3:56:20 PM10/12/18
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On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 9:35:28 AM UTC-4, Percival P. Cassidy One of
> those thermal fuses is bad, but with no way of spot-welding a
> replacement in place is there any practical way of fixing it?


https://i.etsystatic.com/13173278/r/il/dc8519/1058697417/il_642xN.1058697417_dgpn.jpg

Then, eutectic silver solder.

https://www.amazon.com/Cardas-Soldering-Eutectic-Silver-Solder/dp/B015X68HXW

Safe, effective, and will withstand the heat.

Use the squig (soldering ring) to join the ends and then crimp it. Solder with silver solder. Done.

I keep both for just these sorts of repairs, and also my wife's jewelry.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

G. Paul Ziemba

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Oct 13, 2018, 5:58:08 PM10/13/18
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"Percival P. Cassidy" <Nob...@NotMyISP.net> writes:

>One of
>those thermal fuses is bad, but with no way of spot-welding a
>replacement in place is there any practical way of fixing it?

Yes. The retail bubble-packaged replacement thermal fuses I have
seen (at, e.g., Fry's) come with small crimp rings.
--
G. Paul Ziemba
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2:51PM up 94 days, 4:19, 14 users, load averages: 1.47, 1.13, 1.03

Percival P. Cassidy

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Oct 13, 2018, 9:18:50 PM10/13/18
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On 10/13/18 5:52 PM, G. Paul Ziemba wrote:

>> One of
>> those thermal fuses is bad, but with no way of spot-welding a
>> replacement in place is there any practical way of fixing it?
>
> Yes. The retail bubble-packaged replacement thermal fuses I have
> seen (at, e.g., Fry's) come with small crimp rings.

Ah, Fry's. Unfortunately, the stores are all about three hours from
here, and shipping probably would be much more than the cost of the item.

I've bought a Bunn thermal fuse "set" (two connected in "Y"
configuration, but I need only one). Should be here Tuesday. I have some
crimp connectors and some push-in connectors. Both with insulation rated
to 105C, which should be OK.

Perce
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