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tub...@myshop.com

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Jan 26, 2019, 10:56:49 PM1/26/19
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Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?

I have never been good at Mathematics, once you put numbers over other
numbers, use alphabet letters in place of numbers, or talk about
squaring a number, I am completely lost. This is nothing new. Even in
high school I needed special help and barely passed algebra.

Yet, I have worked with electronics all my life. (55+ years). I usually
fInd the correct resistors by trial and error, using pots and decade
boxes. Or using meters for watts, amps, or volts.

Most of the time I see someone in a youtube video using this kind of
math, I skip the video. I just hate math and always will.

But I'd welcome a piece of software that would calculate simple ohms law
things like determining the resisitor size or amperage, etc.

Yes, I'm aware of websites that do that math, but I do not have internet
access in my shop, which is where I need this sort of thing.

Is there any software (preferably free) that I can put on my laptop PC
to do this? (Must be suitable for Windows XP SP3 Pro).

Google did not find anything except those online (web based)
calculators...

Ralph Mowery

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Jan 26, 2019, 11:19:37 PM1/26/19
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In article <mvaq4e5ap2shaio9h...@4ax.com>,
tub...@myshop.com says...
>
> Is there any software (preferably free) that I can put on my laptop PC
> to do this? (Must be suitable for Windows XP SP3 Pro).
>
> Google did not find anything except those online (web based)
> calculators...
>
>
>


Try this.

https://www.electronics2000.co.uk/download.php


Jeff Liebermann

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Jan 26, 2019, 11:36:58 PM1/26/19
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 21:56:44 -0600, tub...@myshop.com wrote:

>Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?

No. It's too easy and simple to make it worthwhile writing a stand
alone Ohm's Law program for a PC. There are plenty for IOS and
Android devices, but not for PC's. It might be helpful in finding
something if you were more specific as to what you mean by "other
electronics math"?

>Is there any software (preferably free) that I can put on my laptop PC
>to do this? (Must be suitable for Windows XP SP3 Pro).

I think you'll find one of these to be more suitable:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=ohm's+law+cardboard+slide+rule&tbm=isch>
Most of my collection:
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators.jpg>
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators-02.jpg>
Oddly, I don't seem to have one that does Ohm's Law.


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John Robertson

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Jan 28, 2019, 12:51:21 AM1/28/19
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On 2019/01/26 8:36 p.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 21:56:44 -0600, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>
>> Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?
>
> No. It's too easy and simple to make it worthwhile writing a stand
> alone Ohm's Law program for a PC. There are plenty for IOS and
> Android devices, but not for PC's. It might be helpful in finding
> something if you were more specific as to what you mean by "other
> electronics math"?
>
>> Is there any software (preferably free) that I can put on my laptop PC
>> to do this? (Must be suitable for Windows XP SP3 Pro).
>
> I think you'll find one of these to be more suitable:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=ohm's+law+cardboard+slide+rule&tbm=isch>
> Most of my collection:
> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators.jpg>
> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators-02.jpg>
> Oddly, I don't seem to have one that does Ohm's Law.
>
>

There is the old PIRE wheel, or is that too simple for the OP?

Of course then you need to use either your head or a calculator - I mean
really, I=E/R, how hard is that?

John :-#)#

peterw...@gmail.com

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Jan 28, 2019, 8:37:26 AM1/28/19
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Web-based software is useful to calculate parallel resistors and such-like. There was a discussion in another group about how to hot-switch between two amplifiers, neither of which would like to be unloaded (but for different reasons).

Turned out that a parallel high-wattage resistor across the amp outputs would do the trick, after a bit of calculation. Using a web-based calculator greatly sped up the process.

http://www.1728.org/resistrs.htm


Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

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Jan 28, 2019, 8:45:04 AM1/28/19
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On 1/28/19 7:37 AM, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> Web-based software is useful to calculate parallel resistors
> and such-like.

Yabut...Tubeguy wants something he can run on his PC since he
has a shit connection to the web.

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Fox's Mercantile

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Jan 28, 2019, 9:19:53 AM1/28/19
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On 1/28/19 8:05 AM, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> https://download.cnet.com/Ohm-s-Law-Free-for-Windows-10/3000-2121_4-77555568.html
>
> That took less than a minute.

Thank you.

Adrian Tuddenham

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Jan 28, 2019, 9:43:47 AM1/28/19
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<tub...@myshop.com> wrote:

> Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?

Basic Ohm's Law calculations can be done on a pocket calculator without
the need for anything more complicated. The biggest pitfall is knowing
*which* voltage or *which* current is actually applied to a particular
resistor, especially if there are several in some sort of array.; it is
not always obvious.

The logic of real-life circuit problems is not particularly amenable to
being sorted out by software.


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David Snowdon

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Jan 28, 2019, 12:16:21 PM1/28/19
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Go to < www.cq-amateur-radio.com/cq_ham_calc/cq_ham_calc.html > and
download HAM-CALC ( HCALC_129.zip ). I unzip the file into a ram-disk
whenever I need to use the program. Since it uses GWBASIC, you need to
type "cmd" in the START -> Run.. box. I see that you are using WinXP,
so this isn't a problem. For more recent version of Windows, you would
have to install DOSBOX first.

David

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Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
> <tub...@myshop.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?
>
> Basic Ohm's Law calculations can be done on a pocket calculator without
> the need for anything more complicated. The biggest pitfall is knowing
> *which* voltage or *which* current is actually applied to a particular
> resistor, especially if there are several in some sort of array.; it is
> not always obvious.
>
> The logic of real-life circuit problems is not particularly amenable to
> being sorted out by software.
>
>

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tabb...@gmail.com

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Jan 28, 2019, 12:43:13 PM1/28/19
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On Monday, 28 January 2019 14:43:47 UTC, Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
> <tub...@myshop.com> wrote:
>
> > Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?
>
> Basic Ohm's Law calculations can be done on a pocket calculator without
> the need for anything more complicated. The biggest pitfall is knowing
> *which* voltage or *which* current is actually applied to a particular
> resistor, especially if there are several in some sort of array.; it is
> not always obvious.
>
> The logic of real-life circuit problems is not particularly amenable to
> being sorted out by software.

Ohms law, capacitor reactance, numerous other things are frequently resolved with simple software. And I won't mention spice or its limitations.

Look165

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Jan 28, 2019, 2:09:18 PM1/28/19
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It is simply the application of the Ohm-low :
sigma(I)=0 at a node.
sigma(V)=0 along a loop.
And , of course V=Z*I.

Jeff Liebermann

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Jan 28, 2019, 6:04:51 PM1/28/19
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:36:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 21:56:44 -0600, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>
>>Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?
>
>No. It's too easy and simple to make it worthwhile writing a stand
>alone Ohm's Law program for a PC. There are plenty for IOS and
>Android devices, but not for PC's. It might be helpful in finding
>something if you were more specific as to what you mean by "other
>electronics math"?

Well, I lied. I found some Windoze and Java programs that do Ohm's
law:

<https://www.electronics2000.co.uk/download.php#assistant>
Ohm's Law is under the "other" tab.

<http://www.cainehorr.com/ohms-law-power-formula-calculator/>

<http://forums.aussievapers.com/e-cigarette-vaporization-hardware-discussion/24633-ohms-law-calculator.html>

Ohm's Law simulation:
<https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/ohms-law>
(Required Java)

More possibles:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=ohms+law+calculator+windows&tbm=isch>

Jeff Liebermann

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Jan 28, 2019, 6:21:49 PM1/28/19
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:36:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

This probably the best of the bunch:

"Ohmite Ohm's Law Calculator"
<https://stevenjohnson.com/cardboard/images/ohmite-res-slide.gif>
<http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_692574>
I could swear I have one, somewhere, maybe. Wannit if I can find it?

Roll your own modern slide chart calculator:
<https://www.datalizer.com>

whit3rd

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Jan 28, 2019, 7:14:19 PM1/28/19
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On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 7:56:49 PM UTC-8, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?

You would be better off with a piece of log/log graph paper, labeled for a
convenient range of V on one axis, and I on the other axis. Every
resistor value can be represented by a straight line (a diagonal)
on the graph. Scribe in 1 ohm, 10, 100, 1000, 10k etc. lines, and glance
at it when you want a value.

Calculators are slow. Laminated charts inform in a couple of seconds, and
can be taped on any convenient door/partition/refrigerator.

Mike Coon

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Jan 29, 2019, 6:14:16 AM1/29/19
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In article <be6268f7-290f-4e3d...@googlegroups.com>,
whi...@gmail.com says...
And there must be a PDF or XLS etc file that generates log/log charts
for printing out locally.

Which reminds me that decades ago I wrote a spreadsheet to display the
Fourier synthesis of a square wave from the first half-dozen harmonics.
Must have it somewhere...

Mike.

John Robertson

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Jan 29, 2019, 2:25:24 PM1/29/19
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On 2019/01/28 3:21 p.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:36:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think you'll find one of these to be more suitable:
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=ohm's+law+cardboard+slide+rule&tbm=isch>
>> Most of my collection:
>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators.jpg>
>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators-02.jpg>
>> Oddly, I don't seem to have one that does Ohm's Law.
>
> This probably the best of the bunch:
>
> "Ohmite Ohm's Law Calculator"
> <https://stevenjohnson.com/cardboard/images/ohmite-res-slide.gif>
> <http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_692574>
> I could swear I have one, somewhere, maybe. Wannit if I can find it?
>
> Roll your own modern slide chart calculator:
> <https://www.datalizer.com>
>

I have a small collection of those cardboard calculators that I got from
an electronics parts store I bought out:

https://www.flippers.com/images/props/Cardboard_Calculators-front.JPG

https://www.flippers.com/images/props/Cardboard_Calculators-rear.JPG

John :-#)#

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Jan 29, 2019, 2:37:18 PM1/29/19
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Jeff Liebermann

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:25:16 -0800, John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com>
wrote:

>I have a small collection of those cardboard calculators that I got from
>an electronics parts store I bought out:
>https://www.flippers.com/images/props/Cardboard_Calculators-front.JPG
>https://www.flippers.com/images/props/Cardboard_Calculators-rear.JPG
>John :-#)#

I get "404 That page doesn't seem to exist... for both URL's.

whit3rd

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Jan 29, 2019, 4:43:52 PM1/29/19
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On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 3:14:16 AM UTC-8, Mike Coon wrote:
> In article <be6268f7-290f-4e3d...@googlegroups.com>,
> whi...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 7:56:49 PM UTC-8, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> > > Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?
> >
> > You would be better off with a piece of log/log graph paper, labeled for a
> > convenient range of V on one axis, and I on the other axis. Every
> > resistor value can be represented by a straight line

> And there must be a PDF or XLS etc file that generates log/log charts
> for printing out locally.

Yep, that can work; or if you have a shared disk on the network,
a bookmark for file://the-shared-disk/utility/resistor-1to100V-1to100mA.pdf

John Robertson

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Jan 29, 2019, 5:00:31 PM1/29/19
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On 2019/01/29 11:40 a.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:25:16 -0800, John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a small collection of those cardboard calculators that I got from
>> an electronics parts store I bought out:
>> https://www.flippers.com/images/Props/Cardboard_Calculators-front.JPG
>> https://www.flippers.com/images/Props/Cardboard_Calculators-rear.JPG
>> John :-#)#
>
> I get "404 That page doesn't seem to exist... for both URL's.
>

Andy caught my typo, used a lower case 'p' for the '/Props' directory.
I've fixed the above links...

I knew I should have tested them before posting!

John :-#(#

John Robertson

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Jan 29, 2019, 5:01:09 PM1/29/19
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On 2019/01/29 11:25 a.m., John Robertson wrote:
> On 2019/01/28 3:21 p.m., Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 20:36:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you'll find one of these to be more suitable:
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=ohm's+law+cardboard+slide+rule&tbm=isch>
>>>
>>> Most of my collection:
>>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators.jpg>
>>>
>>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/Paper-Slide-Rule-Calculators-02.jpg>
>>>
>>> Oddly, I don't seem to have one that does Ohm's Law.
>>
>> This probably the best of the bunch:
>>
>> "Ohmite Ohm's Law Calculator"
>> <https://stevenjohnson.com/cardboard/images/ohmite-res-slide.gif>
>> <http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_692574>
>> I could swear I have one, somewhere, maybe.  Wannit if I can find it?
>>
>> Roll your own modern slide chart calculator:
>> <https://www.datalizer.com>
>>
>
> I have a small collection of those cardboard calculators that I got from
> an electronics parts store I bought out:
>
> https://www.flippers.com/images/props/Cardboard_Calculators-front.JPG
>
> https://www.flippers.com/images/props/Cardboard_Calculators-rear.JPG
>
> John :-#)#
>

Typo, should be:

https://www.flippers.com/images/Props/Cardboard_Calculators-front.JPG

https://www.flippers.com/images/Props/Cardboard_Calculators-rear.JPG

John :-#(#

Lucifer

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Jan 30, 2019, 1:51:30 AM1/30/19
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 21:56:44 -0600, tub...@myshop.com wrote:

>Is there any Software to calculate Ohms Law and other electronics math?

Google.

Ohm's law; V
======
I x R

Mike Coon

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In article <f7i25ehl7fhi5jt0g...@4ax.com>,
LuciferMo...@bigpond.com says...
That's a law? With no "="?

Mike.

Stephen Wolstenholme

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Is it an attempt to draw a triangle that represents V = I * R,
I = V/R, R = V/I

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Cursitor Doom

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Jan 30, 2019, 3:35:58 PM1/30/19
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You cover up the quantity you need to know and derive it from the other
two left.

Why anyone would need a computer for a baby grade problem like this I
simply can't imagine.



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Jan 30, 2019, 6:48:07 PM1/30/19
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On 1/30/19 2:35 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Why anyone would need a computer for a baby grade problem
> like this I simply can't imagine.

Two reasons:
1. Tubeguy already said he can't do math.
2. His internet sucks so he needs a local program.

I can this stuff in my head, but that doesn't help him any.

mog...@hotmail.com

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Jan 31, 2019, 12:48:22 PM1/31/19
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On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 10:56:49 PM UTC-5, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> I'd welcome a piece of software that would calculate simple ohms law
> things like determining the resisitor size or amperage, etc.

Just buy a multimeter from a hardware store.

Cursitor Doom

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:47:58 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote:

> On 1/30/19 2:35 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> Why anyone would need a computer for a baby grade problem like this I
>> simply can't imagine.
>
> Two reasons:
> 1. Tubeguy already said he can't do math.

If he can't do the most elementary things like multiply and divide, then
there's no hope for him in electronics AFAICS. He needs to pick another
job.

> 2. His internet sucks so he needs a local program.

He could get a powerful pocket calculator for peanuts! I can't believe
anyone can be *that* stupid, TBH. He's having a laugh at your expense.

Terry Schwartz

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Feb 1, 2019, 6:16:55 PM2/1/19
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No, read his posts, and those from his alter-ego, oldstuff....... He's *that* stupid.

Fox's Mercantile

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Feb 1, 2019, 9:39:16 PM2/1/19
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On 2/1/19 5:16 PM, Terry Schwartz wrote:
> No, read his posts, and those from his alter-ego, oldstuff....... He's*that* stupid.
>> He could get a powerful pocket calculator for peanuts! I can't believe
>> anyone can be*that* stupid, TBH. He's having a laugh at your expense.
>>

Old School.

tabb...@gmail.com

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On Friday, 1 February 2019 23:05:44 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 17:47:58 -0600, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> > On 1/30/19 2:35 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

> >> Why anyone would need a computer for a baby grade problem like this I
> >> simply can't imagine.
> >
> > Two reasons:
> > 1. Tubeguy already said he can't do math.
>
> If he can't do the most elementary things like multiply and divide, then
> there's no hope for him in electronics AFAICS. He needs to pick another
> job.
>
> > 2. His internet sucks so he needs a local program.
>
> He could get a powerful pocket calculator for peanuts! I can't believe
> anyone can be *that* stupid, TBH. He's having a laugh at your expense.

Everyone has a blindspot somewhere. He's a hobbyist.


NT

Mike Coon

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In article <d27dd512-aa0e-41a7...@googlegroups.com>,
tschw...@aol.com says...
>
> No, read his posts, and those from his alter-ego, oldstuff....... He's *that* stupid.
> >
> > He could get a powerful pocket calculator for peanuts! I can't believe
> > anyone can be *that* stupid, TBH. He's having a laugh at your expense.
> >

I'm not so sure. Back when GPS were new and there was an active GPS
forum, lots of people wanted help with how to convert degrees to
degrees+minutes. (Despite the USA still liking feet and inches and UK
not much better.)

Mike.

Fox's Mercantile

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That's just being lazy. Part of the "I want it now" mindset.
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