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vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Feb 10, 2011, 1:58:09 AM2/10/11
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By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which kind?
WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite, and I
was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new bakelite
without asbestos? ANy clues?


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Phil Allison

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Feb 10, 2011, 2:15:33 AM2/10/11
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<vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com>

>
> By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which
> kind?
> WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite,
> and I
> was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new
> bakelite
> without asbestos?


** Ever heard of Google and Wiki ?

> ANy clues?


** Not likely from you.

.... Phil

PeterD

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Feb 10, 2011, 7:57:38 AM2/10/11
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:15:33 +1100, "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au>
wrote:

Damn, took the words out of my mouth...

John Robertson

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Feb 10, 2011, 12:26:05 PM2/10/11
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vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which kind?
> WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite, and I
> was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new bakelite
> without asbestos? ANy clues?
>
>

Unless you are grinding the Bakelite product into a powder and snorting
it I'd not worry about it...

John :-#)#

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Smitty Two

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Feb 10, 2011, 9:20:38 PM2/10/11
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In article <uvKdnefd0I0wgsnQ...@giganews.com>,
John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote:

> vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> > By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which kind?
> > WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite, and
> > I
> > was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new
> > bakelite
> > without asbestos? ANy clues?
> >
> >
>
> Unless you are grinding the Bakelite product into a powder and snorting
> it I'd not worry about it...
>
> John :-#)#

The wikipedia article should answer the OPs questions, but I can tell
you that machining phenolics is an easy way to produce snortable powder.
Covers the every square inch of the entire shop with a very fine dust.

LSMFT

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Feb 10, 2011, 10:17:35 PM2/10/11
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Only worry if it's fluffy bakelite.

John Robertson

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Feb 12, 2011, 1:25:13 AM2/12/11
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Granted but the original question was actually about old bakelite
outlets - I do not think he was going to be machining them - rather it
sounded like he wasn't sure if he should be concerned about them
containing asbestos. Hence my somewhat flippant answer.

Smitty Two

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Feb 12, 2011, 11:13:46 PM2/12/11
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In article <MdidnYkf2ZJUusvQ...@giganews.com>,
John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote:

> Smitty Two wrote:
> > In article <uvKdnefd0I0wgsnQ...@giganews.com>,
> > John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote:
> >
> >> vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> >>> By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which
> >>> kind?
> >>> WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite,
> >>> and
> >>> I
> >>> was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new
> >>> bakelite
> >>> without asbestos? ANy clues?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Unless you are grinding the Bakelite product into a powder and snorting
> >> it I'd not worry about it...
> >>
> >> John :-#)#
> >
> > The wikipedia article should answer the OPs questions, but I can tell
> > you that machining phenolics is an easy way to produce snortable powder.
> > Covers the every square inch of the entire shop with a very fine dust.
>
> Granted but the original question was actually about old bakelite
> outlets - I do not think he was going to be machining them - rather it
> sounded like he wasn't sure if he should be concerned about them
> containing asbestos. Hence my somewhat flippant answer.
>
> John :-#)#

You played the thread drift card, I was just following suit ...

Jeff Liebermann

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Feb 12, 2011, 11:56:01 PM2/12/11
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:58:09 +0000 (UTC),
vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

>By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which kind?
>WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite, and I
>was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new bakelite
>without asbestos? ANy clues?

It's your chance to get rich quick. For example:
<http://www.mesotheliomacenter.org/mesothelioma-news/2002/07/30/asbestos-verdict-nets-42-million-award-for-san-ramon-terminal-cancer-patient-is-the-first-involving-bakelite/>
Claim that you're suffering from cancer of the vocabulary, induced by
your proximity to asbestos infested bakelite electrical hardware, and
collect a small fortune. With asbestos claims, you don't even have to
prove medical damage, just exposure, as juries tend to assume that
there will eventually be health effects. Second hand exposure is also
actionable so be sure to get the relatives involved.

Incidentally, a few years ago, I sold a rental house with exterior
asbestos wallboard on the outside of the house. Prior to the sale, I
was incorrectly informed that I would need to contract with a
hazardous materials removal company that specialized in asbestos
removal and disposal. The initial low estimate was $35,000. Ouch.

The buyer was a general contractor and apparently knew more about the
asbestos situation than local planning department. He indicated that
it was better to leave things in place, and seal it under a layer of
exterior paneling, than to remove the asbestos, which would certainly
produce considerable dangerous dust.

If you're worried about asbestos, just replace the electrical outlets,
or make sure you don't grind or break them.

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vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Feb 13, 2011, 4:27:47 AM2/13/11
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Google *IS* the problem, don't trust it. Look online and all you see is
trial lawyers saying all bakelite has asbestos. It doesn't. Bakelite can be
made into a composite by mixing it with glass, slate or asbestos.
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