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What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
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Erholt Rhein
Mar 26, 2018, 7:27:40 PM3/26/18
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What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
Terry Schwartz
Mar 26, 2018, 7:31:54 PM3/26/18
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Erholt Rhein
Mar 26, 2018, 7:50:24 PM3/26/18
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Terry Schwartz wrote in
<news:7bff07b9-ab16-4241...@googlegroups.com>:
> There should not be strain on a USB cable. It's considered a temporary, free-standing connection.
I hear you. I wish it were true that the cables don't break on the small
end. I really do.
But I can't count the number of broken microUSB & AppleUSB cables I have.
Maybe twenty? Thirty?
They all break at the same point because they go slowly so you know it by
the wiggle test.
The wiggle test proves it is the thin microUSB or AppleUSB end that plugs
into the mobile device.
It's never the fat rectangular USB end that plugs into the computer or
power supply.
I just want to know what you use as a strain relief?
Some people tell me heat shrink tubing works.
What do you use?
<news:7bff07b9-ab16-4241...@googlegroups.com>:
> There should not be strain on a USB cable. It's considered a temporary, free-standing connection.
end. I really do.
But I can't count the number of broken microUSB & AppleUSB cables I have.
Maybe twenty? Thirty?
They all break at the same point because they go slowly so you know it by
the wiggle test.
The wiggle test proves it is the thin microUSB or AppleUSB end that plugs
into the mobile device.
It's never the fat rectangular USB end that plugs into the computer or
power supply.
I just want to know what you use as a strain relief?
Some people tell me heat shrink tubing works.
What do you use?
John Robertson
Mar 26, 2018, 8:05:40 PM3/26/18
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diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain relief on the cable/plug.
John :-#)#
Terry Schwartz
Mar 26, 2018, 8:44:00 PM3/26/18
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Ok, for me, strain relief is typically a term used to describe a method of securing a cable or other device into a connection so it does not separate or put undo strain on the connection itself.
You are describing something more akin to a reinforcement. Yes USB cables fatigue and break. No doubt.
I have used heat shrink, but it really just moves the problem "down stream" if you will.
You can also reinforce by over-molding with a material such as "sugru".... please google that. It works for stuff like this, in fact it typically exceeds my expectations.
You are describing something more akin to a reinforcement. Yes USB cables fatigue and break. No doubt.
I have used heat shrink, but it really just moves the problem "down stream" if you will.
You can also reinforce by over-molding with a material such as "sugru".... please google that. It works for stuff like this, in fact it typically exceeds my expectations.
Fox's Mercantile
Mar 26, 2018, 8:59:17 PM3/26/18
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On 3/26/18 7:05 PM, John Robertson wrote:
> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> relief on the cable/plug.
There's only little problem with that.
> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> relief on the cable/plug.
How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
--
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nospam
Mar 26, 2018, 9:37:13 PM3/26/18
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In article <z6OdnYTot8XDCiTH...@giganews.com>, Fox's
Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
> > Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> > of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> > relief on the cable/plug.
>
> There's only little problem with that.
> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
> > Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> > of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> > relief on the cable/plug.
>
> There's only little problem with that.
> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
Fox's Mercantile
Mar 26, 2018, 9:48:14 PM3/26/18
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There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
it may not shrink down full around the cable.
nospam
Mar 26, 2018, 10:37:33 PM3/26/18
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In article <-I2dnaPyLPRKPyTH...@giganews.com>, Fox's
that's not an issue.
better yet, buy quality cables that don't fall apart and don't need
aftermarket reinforcements.
Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
> >>> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> >>> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> >>> relief on the cable/plug.
> >>
> >> There's only little problem with that.
> >> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
> >
> > you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
>
> Eye roll.....
>
> There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
> If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
since the micro usb connector is only slightly wider than the cable,
> >>> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> >>> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> >>> relief on the cable/plug.
> >>
> >> There's only little problem with that.
> >> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
> >
> > you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
>
> Eye roll.....
>
> There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
> If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
that's not an issue.
better yet, buy quality cables that don't fall apart and don't need
aftermarket reinforcements.
Dean Hoffman
Mar 26, 2018, 10:54:42 PM3/26/18
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The Real Bev
Mar 27, 2018, 12:10:46 AM3/27/18
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gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
--
Cheers, Bev
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However,
this is not necessarily a good idea...."
micky
Mar 27, 2018, 12:56:39 AM3/27/18
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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:10:43 -0700, The Real Bev
that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to use.
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> On 3/26/18 6:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>>>
>>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
>>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
>>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>>>
>>>
>> Would flexible/stretchable tape work?
>
>My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it. She
>gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
>On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> On 3/26/18 6:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>>>
>>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
>>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
>>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>>>
>>>
>> Would flexible/stretchable tape work?
>
>My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it. She
>gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to use.
Chris Green
Mar 27, 2018, 5:33:07 AM3/27/18
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Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
> On 3/26/18 8:37 PM, nospam wrote:
> > In article <z6OdnYTot8XDCiTH...@giganews.com>, Fox's
> > Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> >>> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> >>> relief on the cable/plug.
> >>
> >> There's only little problem with that.
> >> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
> >
> > you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
>
> Eye roll.....
>
> There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
> If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
>
Yes, well specify 3:1 or 4:1 heatshrink then, 3:1 is very easy to find
> On 3/26/18 8:37 PM, nospam wrote:
> > In article <z6OdnYTot8XDCiTH...@giganews.com>, Fox's
> > Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
> >>> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
> >>> relief on the cable/plug.
> >>
> >> There's only little problem with that.
> >> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
> >
> > you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
>
> Eye roll.....
>
> There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
> If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
>
and 4:1 is certainly available.
--
Chris Green
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Carlos E.R.
Mar 27, 2018, 8:16:10 AM3/27/18
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On 2018-03-27 01:27, Erholt Rhein wrote:
> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
Nothing. I simply handle them with care.
> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
None of my cables broke in that part. Two failed at the pins.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
John McGaw
Mar 27, 2018, 10:39:09 AM3/27/18
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is a great chance of excess strain but I understand that some people use a
blob of Sugru for the purpose. I have used that product to reinforce/repair
the inbuilt USB cable on the auto power adapter from my old Magellan GPS
and, while it was a pretty ugly mess, it did the job quite well and also
allowed me to make the cord into a 90-degree rather than straight feed so
it kept the cord away from the shift lever.
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Mar 27, 2018, 10:42:39 AM3/27/18
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Frank Slootweg
Mar 27, 2018, 11:54:35 AM3/27/18
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at the cable sides of the connectors. The cables you showed don't have
such a flexible part. They're probably cheap crap.
FWIW, the only cheap-crap [1] cable I (know I) have, indeed does not
have flexible strain relief. Duh!
[1] Yes, I have a valid excuse for this one! :-)
s|b
Mar 27, 2018, 3:34:13 PM3/27/18
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 23:27:35 +0000 (UTC), Erholt Rhein wrote:
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair,comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair
Don't feed the troll... He (cross)posted this to other newsgroups as
well.
--
s|b
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair,comp.mobile.android,alt.home.repair
Don't feed the troll... He (cross)posted this to other newsgroups as
well.
--
s|b
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 28, 2018, 9:50:10 AM3/28/18
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Am 27.03.18 um 16:42 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
Path:
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Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
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Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Mar 28, 2018, 11:08:04 AM3/28/18
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LOL
peterw...@gmail.com
Mar 28, 2018, 1:16:50 PM3/28/18
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> Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
Never was, most likely.
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 29, 2018, 2:24:14 AM3/29/18
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Am 28.03.18 um 17:08 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
Path:
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Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
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Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
Carlos E.R.
Mar 29, 2018, 5:56:12 AM3/29/18
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very different path for the same post.
Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!199-v6no6316038itl.0!news-out.google.com!d3-v6ni3566itf.0!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
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Cheers, Carlos.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 29, 2018, 12:00:15 PM3/29/18
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to left. The right-hand side indicates (read: should indicate) the
origin server of the post.
The right-hand part of the Path is the same:
Joerg:
> > Path:
> > ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
You:
> Path:
> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
it's only one or two !-parts.
The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
part of the Path is different.
HTH.
--
Frank Slootweg, in a past life, (part-time) News server admin in some
tiny 150,000 employee company.
Bennett
Mar 29, 2018, 1:26:16 PM3/29/18
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and many different sizes of heat shrink would otherwise be necessary to
build up a strain relief. I've not been able to make Sugru
reinforcements look good but the stuff works like a charm.
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 29, 2018, 4:34:56 PM3/29/18
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Am 29.03.18 um 11:52 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
no obligation to identify himself. That is the reason why these servers
are so popular with trolls. And the very first nntp-server on the line
(in fact close to the end) tells you the injection point because these
troll-servers also suppress the injection-info.
It is easily possible that the routing to your server looks different
but not the injection point.
CU
> On 2018-03-29 08:24, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 28.03.18 um 17:08 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>>> On 3/28/2018 6:50 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 27.03.18 um 16:42 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>>>>> On 3/26/2018 4:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>>>>>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
>>>>>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You sum kinda idiot?
>>>>>
>>>> Path:
>>>> news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not my header, dumbo.
>>> LOL
>>>
>> Path:
>> news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>>
>> Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
>
> It is absurd to judge a troll solely for using a free server. I get a
> very different path for the same post.
This is not only a free server it is an anonymous server. The user has
>> Am 28.03.18 um 17:08 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>>> On 3/28/2018 6:50 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 27.03.18 um 16:42 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>>>>> On 3/26/2018 4:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>>>>>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
>>>>>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You sum kinda idiot?
>>>>>
>>>> Path:
>>>> news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not my header, dumbo.
>>> LOL
>>>
>> Path:
>> news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>>
>> Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
>
> It is absurd to judge a troll solely for using a free server. I get a
> very different path for the same post.
no obligation to identify himself. That is the reason why these servers
are so popular with trolls. And the very first nntp-server on the line
(in fact close to the end) tells you the injection point because these
troll-servers also suppress the injection-info.
It is easily possible that the routing to your server looks different
but not the injection point.
CU
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 29, 2018, 4:37:28 PM3/29/18
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Am 29.03.18 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Slootweg:
> The right-hand part of the Path is the same:
>
> Joerg:
>
>>> Path:
>>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> You:
>> Path:
>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
> it's only one or two !-parts.
>
> The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
> news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
> part of the Path is different.
The injection point is: news.highwinds-media.com, a typical troll-server.
>
> Joerg:
>
>>> Path:
>>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> You:
>> Path:
>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
> it's only one or two !-parts.
>
> The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
> news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
> part of the Path is different.
peterw...@gmail.com
Mar 29, 2018, 4:42:09 PM3/29/18
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Guys and Gals!
You are feeding the troll simply by continuing the discussion.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
You are feeding the troll simply by continuing the discussion.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
83LowRider
Mar 29, 2018, 4:59:43 PM3/29/18
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On 3/26/2018 7:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>
> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
Lots of replies, so this may have been suggested already
> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>
> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg
Taken from any 'click' pen.
Erholt Rhein
Mar 29, 2018, 11:22:10 PM3/29/18
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83LowRider wrote in <news:p9jk3s$gj2$1...@dont-email.me>:
> Lots of replies, so this may have been suggested already
>
> http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg
>
> Taken from any 'click' pen.
That's the best idea ever!
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg\
The pen spring was suggested but until I saw your photo I didn't think the
pen spring would work. You showed that a pen spring _is_ big enough to roll
onto the Apple cable becoming what I had called a strain relief but I don't
know what it's called because others said it's not a strain relief.
That picture is PERFECT for what I want to do, and is the best and cheapest
answer yet and it relieves the strain gradually which is another perfect
thing!
Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
thrown away over the years! LOL
> Lots of replies, so this may have been suggested already
>
> http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg
>
> Taken from any 'click' pen.
http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg\
The pen spring was suggested but until I saw your photo I didn't think the
pen spring would work. You showed that a pen spring _is_ big enough to roll
onto the Apple cable becoming what I had called a strain relief but I don't
know what it's called because others said it's not a strain relief.
That picture is PERFECT for what I want to do, and is the best and cheapest
answer yet and it relieves the strain gradually which is another perfect
thing!
Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
thrown away over the years! LOL
Carlos E.R.
Mar 30, 2018, 8:00:11 AM3/30/18
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long time, and I'm certainly no troll. I simply do not like to pay and
my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
If a name shifter uses always the same server, well, that's a clue, but
not definitive. Posting from there is not definitive.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Terry Schwartz
Mar 30, 2018, 9:38:36 AM3/30/18
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peterw...@gmail.com
Mar 30, 2018, 9:50:05 AM3/30/18
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https://www.lowes.com/pd/Plasti-Dip-14-5-fl-oz-Blue-Dip-Coating/3760681?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-Paint-_-SprayPaint-_-3760681:Plasti_Dip&CAWELAID=&kpid=3760681&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=2e6d9979-34bc-4d57-981a-7e5b8c919e05&gclid=CjwKCAjwwPfVBRBiEiwAdkM0HYLWkX1YPuaryO2wZ-nccP5uP6lj6efcq7BaNfkdh9EH2KSr257DZBoC4mUQAvD_BwE
Install with an expendable brush.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Plasti-Dip-14-5-fl-oz-Blue-Dip-Coating/3760681?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-Paint-_-SprayPaint-_-3760681:Plasti_Dip&CAWELAID=&kpid=3760681&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=2e6d9979-34bc-4d57-981a-7e5b8c919e05&gclid=CjwKCAjwwPfVBRBiEiwAdkM0HYLWkX1YPuaryO2wZ-nccP5uP6lj6efcq7BaNfkdh9EH2KSr257DZBoC4mUQAvD_BwE
Install with an expendable brush.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 30, 2018, 11:06:32 AM3/30/18
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Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
[...]
resident nymshifter.
> I simply do not like to pay and
> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
> Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
That's your Path to me, i.e. we're both on News.Individual.[NET|DE].
[...]
[...]
> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
> long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
> long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
resident nymshifter.
> I simply do not like to pay and
> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
> Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
That's your Path to me, i.e. we're both on News.Individual.[NET|DE].
[...]
Carlos E.R.
Mar 30, 2018, 1:20:11 PM3/30/18
to
On 2018-03-30 17:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
>> long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
>
> True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
> resident nymshifter.
>
>> I simply do not like to pay and
>> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
>
> Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago :-)
> Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
>> long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
>
> True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
> resident nymshifter.
>
>> I simply do not like to pay and
>> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
>
> Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
My system may still use aioe if the primary server fails. When using
leafnode one has a primary server and may have several others as
secondaries.
You could use a scoring system: if the posting server is a free one, add
some points. But you need other clues to add points to assure certainty.
For instance, that it is a new name, that it talks a certain way, has
some traits... ;-)
My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
troll or spammer.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 30, 2018, 1:53:07 PM3/30/18
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Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2018-03-30 17:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
> >> long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
> >
> > True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
> > resident nymshifter.
> >
> >> I simply do not like to pay and
> >> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
> >
> > Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
>
> Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago :-)
I see.
> On 2018-03-30 17:06, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
> >> long time, and I'm certainly no troll.
> >
> > True, but for example aioe *is* used by a lot of trolls. Example: Our
> > resident nymshifter.
> >
> >> I simply do not like to pay and
> >> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
> >
> > Huh? Aren't you using the pay-server News.Individual.[NET|DE]? :
>
> Now it is, but it wasn't a year ago :-)
> My system may still use aioe if the primary server fails. When using
> leafnode one has a primary server and may have several others as
> secondaries.
servers as I have Hamster on my system, i.e. a local, private News
server on Windows, much like leafnode on UNIX/Linux.
> You could use a scoring system: if the posting server is a free one, add
> some points. But you need other clues to add points to assure certainty.
> For instance, that it is a new name, that it talks a certain way, has
> some traits... ;-)
>
> My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
> troll or spammer.
Groups (or posters using Linux! :-)).
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 30, 2018, 2:30:54 PM3/30/18
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Am 30.03.18 um 13:56 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
these servers are trolls but almost all trolls use these servers.
A free server but not anonymous would be the following:
https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home
> Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
That's why I had to put you on my "troll server"-exception list to be
able to read you.
Joerg
> Well, I have been using news.aioe.org and freenews.netfront.net for a
> long time, and I'm certainly no troll. I simply do not like to pay and
> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
Free and anonymous are not the same. And I did not say all useres of
> long time, and I'm certainly no troll. I simply do not like to pay and
> my ISP does no longer provide nntp.
these servers are trolls but almost all trolls use these servers.
A free server but not anonymous would be the following:
https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home
> Thus I make nothing of using a free server.
able to read you.
Joerg
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 30, 2018, 2:38:02 PM3/30/18
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Am 30.03.18 um 19:17 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
news-out.google.com
news.netfront.net and
aioe.org
are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
Joerg
> My issue is with thinking that a poster using aioe alone meaning he is a
> troll or spammer.
Nobody said anything like that.
> troll or spammer.
I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
news-out.google.com
news.netfront.net and
aioe.org
are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
Joerg
Tekkie®
Mar 30, 2018, 4:21:49 PM3/30/18
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micky posted for all of us...
>
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:10:43 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> >
> >My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it. She
> >gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
>
> We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
> that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to use.
Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
--
Tekkie
>
> In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 26 Mar 2018 21:10:43 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> >> On 3/26/18 6:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
> >>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
> >>>
> >>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
> >>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
> >>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Would flexible/stretchable tape work?
> >>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
> >>>
> >>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
> >>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
> >>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it. She
> >gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
>
> We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
> that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to use.
Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
--
Tekkie
Ragnusen Ultred
Mar 30, 2018, 4:54:36 PM3/30/18
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Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:37:59 +0200, schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> Nobody said anything like that.
>
> I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
>
> news-out.google.com
> news.netfront.net and
> aioe.org
>
> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
>
> Joerg
I've been on the Usenet for decades, where I've interacted with the poster
> Nobody said anything like that.
>
> I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
>
> news-out.google.com
> news.netfront.net and
> aioe.org
>
> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
>
> Joerg
Joerg Lorenz quite a few times, where he has often proven he has the
stunted mental acuity of a child.
I only speak facts.
Hear me out, as I present the facts, where this Joerg /never/ adds
technical on-topic value to /any/ thread he posts to.
All he does is call everyone else a troll.
And what does he base his accusations upon?
He thinks that the mere fact that someone wants privacy means they're a
troll.
I've told him already, in other newsgroups where he trolls his accusations
left and right, that this is like saying all Blacks are criminals, simply
because they're black, all Italians are in the mob, simply because the mob
is comprised of a lot of Italians, all Jews are greedy simply because some
greedy people are Jews, all Germans are racist simply because some Germans
have committed hate crimes, etc.
What Joerg fails to understand is that a troll has to troll to be
considered a troll. That simple fact is compltely lost on Joerg, and he'll
never get it - simply because of two facts he's proven time and again.
1. He can't add technical on-topic value to /any/ thread topic, and,
2. He considers anyone wanting privacy to be a troll,
(where he's the troll, in actuality).
Want proof?
This is Joerg's 1st response to an on-topic question in a newsgroup:
"[I have no answer to the question]
I only know the idiot who wants to know it ..."
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/bWXHKhH3AAAJ>
Q: Is it on topic? (Answer = ?)
Q: Does it add value? (Answer = ?)
Q: Is it something the mind of a child would say? (Answer = ?)
This is Joerg's 2nd response when responded to by an adult:
"Only anonymous *idiots* are using anonymous news-servers.
Your header: Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/xj2X4Wn9AAAJ>
This is Joerg's 3rd response when headers were explained to him:
"you are simply a big mouth. "
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/UmK7yflFAQAJ>
Joerg's 4th response responding to the proven troll, Frank Slootweg:
"+1"
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/sgzGVamjKU0/AmUPwr5ZAQAJ>
I can go on proving two points but this should be sufficient for adults:
1. Joerg never adds on-topic technical value to any thread, and,
2. Joerg calls everyone else a troll simply because they desire privacy.
The adults on this newsgroup don't have to believe me ... where all I ask
is for them to ponder whether those verifiable facts above of about a half
dozen posts plus another half dozen responses trying to explain facts to
Joerg Lorenz (all wasted effort, by the way), added /any/ on-topic
technical value to the thread?
So that I'm not guilty of the same childish games that Joerg plays, I've
already proven two points, where I want to once more tell Joerg the
on-topic technical admonition that simply wanting privacy does not make a
person a troll.
In fact, Joerg clearly is guilty of exactly what he accuses everyone else
of being, simply because his posts /never/ add any on-topic value to any
thread.
Just watch...
Carlos E.R.
Mar 30, 2018, 5:24:10 PM3/30/18
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On 2018-03-30 22:54, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
> Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:37:59 +0200, schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
>
>> Nobody said anything like that.
>>
>> I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
>>
>> news-out.google.com
>> news.netfront.net and
>> aioe.org
>>
>> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
>>
>> Joerg
>
> I've been on the Usenet for decades,
No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
> Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:37:59 +0200, schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
>
>> Nobody said anything like that.
>>
>> I use more than one server as well but no anonymous servers.
>>
>> news-out.google.com
>> news.netfront.net and
>> aioe.org
>>
>> are responsible for a vast majority of troll postings in the usenet.
>>
>> Joerg
>
> I've been on the Usenet for decades,
What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
Not reading the rest. EOD.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Ragnusen Ultred
Mar 30, 2018, 5:29:20 PM3/30/18
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Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:24:00 +0200, schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
>
> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
>
> Not reading the rest. EOD.
Hi Carlos,
> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
>
> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
>
> Not reading the rest. EOD.
Think about how much on-topic technical value your post added.
Was it zero?
Think about privacy?
Do you understand privacy?
We all know the answer to both questions, if asked of an adult.
I posit, therefore, that your logic is that of a child.
This appears to be your logic:
A. Because someone desires privacy,
B. Then they are a troll.
I simply posit that is not the logic of an adult.
In fact, I posit that your post is a troll.
Hence, I posit, you just acted just like a troll acts in that your post
added zero on-topic technical value to the thread.
Ron D.
Mar 30, 2018, 5:43:48 PM3/30/18
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A spring will work nicely, I think. Been using one on mom's nebulizer hose for a while now. I had an easy way to attach the end (small hole). It's kept the hose from kinking. I got one that was a few feet long and cut it.
Tim
Mar 30, 2018, 5:45:32 PM3/30/18
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=?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= <Tek...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:u%wvC.88363$q15....@fx34.iad:
>>
>> >On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> >> On 3/26/18 6:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>> >>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
>> >>> https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that
>> >>> comes with the cable but I would like to know what you use as a
>> >>> USB cable strain relief that works better.
>> >>> https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Would flexible/stretchable tape work?
>> >
>> >My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it.
>> >She gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
>>
>> We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
>> that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to
>> use.
>
> Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
>
Actually, I just make sure that the USB cables I buy have good built-in
strain reliefs.
If you are really serious about making your own, there is tape that you
can buy that is impregnated with resin. One version sets by itself the
package is opened. One uses water to activate setting, and one uses UV to
set the resin. And thee is also the self-adhering/fusing tape that
basically melts together when it is wrapped under tension. Take your
pick.
news:u%wvC.88363$q15....@fx34.iad:
>>
>> >On 03/26/2018 07:54 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> >> On 3/26/18 6:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>> >>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief?
>> >>> https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that
>> >>> comes with the cable but I would like to know what you use as a
>> >>> USB cable strain relief that works better.
>> >>> https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Would flexible/stretchable tape work?
>> >
>> >My friend uses that expensive clay-like stuff and is happy with it.
>> >She gave us a small lump of it, but it's too good to use :-)
>>
>> We still have paper towels used to wipe car windows without smearing
>> that a gas station gave my mother in 1962, They are too good to
>> use.
>
> Are they two ply? Pink on one side and blue on the other?
>
strain reliefs.
If you are really serious about making your own, there is tape that you
can buy that is impregnated with resin. One version sets by itself the
package is opened. One uses water to activate setting, and one uses UV to
set the resin. And thee is also the self-adhering/fusing tape that
basically melts together when it is wrapped under tension. Take your
pick.
83LowRider
Mar 30, 2018, 5:53:54 PM3/30/18
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On 3/29/2018 11:22 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
> That's the best idea ever!
> http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg\
>
> The pen spring was suggested but until I saw your photo I didn't think the
> pen spring would work. You showed that a pen spring _is_ big enough to roll
> onto the Apple cable becoming what I had called a strain relief but I don't
> know what it's called because others said it's not a strain relief.
>
> That picture is PERFECT for what I want to do, and is the best and cheapest
> answer yet and it relieves the strain gradually which is another perfect
> thing!
>
> Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
> thrown away over the years! LOL
:)
> That's the best idea ever!
> http://i.imgur.com/aJUXf.jpg\
>
> The pen spring was suggested but until I saw your photo I didn't think the
> pen spring would work. You showed that a pen spring _is_ big enough to roll
> onto the Apple cable becoming what I had called a strain relief but I don't
> know what it's called because others said it's not a strain relief.
>
> That picture is PERFECT for what I want to do, and is the best and cheapest
> answer yet and it relieves the strain gradually which is another perfect
> thing!
>
> Now I have to root through the trash to find all those Bic click pens I've
> thrown away over the years! LOL
micky
Mar 30, 2018, 7:24:42 PM3/30/18
to
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:27:51 +0100, Chris Green
<c...@isbd.net> wrote:
>Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 3/26/18 8:37 PM, nospam wrote:
>> > In article <z6OdnYTot8XDCiTH...@giganews.com>, Fox's
>> > Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
>> >>> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
>> >>> relief on the cable/plug.
>> >>
>> >> There's only little problem with that.
>> >> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
>> >
>> > you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
>>
>> Eye roll.....
>>
>> There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
>> If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
>> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
>>
>Yes, well specify 3:1 or 4:1 heatshrink then, 3:1 is very easy to find
>and 4:1 is certainly available.
i'VE NOTICED that mine is about 2:1. It's not marked or labeled, and I
buy the cheapest stuff I can find, so it woudn't go over a usb plug and
shrink to fit the cable.
<c...@isbd.net> wrote:
>Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 3/26/18 8:37 PM, nospam wrote:
>> > In article <z6OdnYTot8XDCiTH...@giganews.com>, Fox's
>> > Mercantile <jda...@att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Heat shrink works very well, you may want to use a couple
>> >>> of different diameters of HS so you get a stepped strain
>> >>> relief on the cable/plug.
>> >>
>> >> There's only little problem with that.
>> >> How do you get the shrink tubing over the connector?
>> >
>> > you've never used shrink tubing, have you?
>>
>> Eye roll.....
>>
>> There is a ratio concerning original vs shrink size.
>> If the tubing is large enough to fit over the connector
>> it may not shrink down full around the cable.
>>
>Yes, well specify 3:1 or 4:1 heatshrink then, 3:1 is very easy to find
>and 4:1 is certainly available.
i'VE NOTICED that mine is about 2:1. It's not marked or labeled, and I
buy the cheapest stuff I can find, so it woudn't go over a usb plug and
shrink to fit the cable.
micky
Mar 30, 2018, 7:27:33 PM3/30/18
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In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:14:56 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>On 2018-03-27 01:27, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>
>Nothing. I simply handle them with care.
Me too.
>
>None of my cables broke in that part. Two failed at the pins.
I don't think I use them as much as some of you but none have failed. I
have AC extension cords that go back I think 50 years, certainly 40..
In a couple, the rubber cracked and I couldn't save them, but other
rubber has lasted. Most of my stuff never breaks.
E.R." <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
>On 2018-03-27 01:27, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>
Me too.
>
>None of my cables broke in that part. Two failed at the pins.
I don't think I use them as much as some of you but none have failed. I
have AC extension cords that go back I think 50 years, certainly 40..
In a couple, the rubber cracked and I couldn't save them, but other
rubber has lasted. Most of my stuff never breaks.
Joerg Lorenz
Mar 30, 2018, 7:38:35 PM3/30/18
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Am 30.03.18 um 23:24 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
+1
Frank Slootweg
Mar 31, 2018, 8:43:10 AM3/31/18
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Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2018-03-30 22:54, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
[...]
> On 2018-03-30 22:54, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
> > I've been on the Usenet for decades,
>
> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
Not only that, nobody has been on "the Usenet", ever. Likewise, there
>
> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
are no "nntp headers".
Making these kinds of errors and claiming to be an expert, shows that
- also in this area - he severely suffers from Dunning-Kruger effect.
> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
areas, claims to be a Usenet expert and tries to teach *others* lessons,
even on Netiquette for crying out loud.
> Not reading the rest. EOD.
"adding value" to 'his' thread, while he already got the answer to his
troll#####question, but does not like it.]
Carlos E.R.
Mar 31, 2018, 9:32:09 AM3/31/18
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On 2018-03-30 23:29, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
> Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:24:00 +0200, schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>
>> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
>>
>> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
>> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
>>
>> Not reading the rest. EOD.
>
> Hi Carlos,
>
> Think about how much on-topic technical value your post added.
> Was it zero?
> Think about privacy?
> Do you understand privacy?
>
> We all know the answer to both questions, if asked of an adult.
>
> I posit, therefore, that your logic is that of a child.
>
> This appears to be your logic:
> A. Because someone desires privacy, B. Then they are a troll.
Huh, no. You protect privacy by not using your real name, then sticking
> Am Fri, 30 Mar 2018 23:24:00 +0200, schrieb Carlos E.R.:
>
>> No, you haven't. The name Ragnusen Ultred appeared recently.
>>
>> What, you used different names changing them frequently? Well, that
>> defines you as a not reliable Internet person. A troll.
>>
>> Not reading the rest. EOD.
>
> Hi Carlos,
>
> Think about how much on-topic technical value your post added.
> Was it zero?
> Think about privacy?
> Do you understand privacy?
>
> We all know the answer to both questions, if asked of an adult.
>
> I posit, therefore, that your logic is that of a child.
>
> This appears to be your logic:
> A. Because someone desires privacy, B. Then they are a troll.
to it like a man. Stand by your values and what you say by using the
same alias for ever.
Anybody that wants can track you name changes back in time. I have a
list of yours, and signal all your posts. It severs no purpose your name
changing - it just annoys people. For a short time you may fool us, then
we suspect, and finally we are sure. Thus you name changing does not
protect your privacy. Don't lie.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Carlos E.R.
Mar 31, 2018, 9:32:09 AM3/31/18
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Cheers, Carlos.
Ragnusen Ultred
Mar 31, 2018, 1:54:52 PM3/31/18
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Am Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:28:20 +0200, schrieb Carlos E.R.:
> Huh, no. You protect privacy by not using your real name, then sticking
> to it like a man. Stand by your values and what you say by using the
> same alias for ever.
>
> Anybody that wants can track you name changes back in time. I have a
> list of yours, and signal all your posts. It severs no purpose your name
> changing - it just annoys people. For a short time you may fool us, then
> we suspect, and finally we are sure. Thus you name changing does not
> protect your privacy. Don't lie.
Carlos,
> Huh, no. You protect privacy by not using your real name, then sticking
> to it like a man. Stand by your values and what you say by using the
> same alias for ever.
>
> Anybody that wants can track you name changes back in time. I have a
> list of yours, and signal all your posts. It severs no purpose your name
> changing - it just annoys people. For a short time you may fool us, then
> we suspect, and finally we are sure. Thus you name changing does not
> protect your privacy. Don't lie.
You have just proven, yet again, you don't have *adult* comprehensive
skills.
I don't hide who I am in the body of the posts.
You can even tell who I am simply from the /subject/ line, for heaven's
sake.
The style is the same, the format the same, the screenshots are from the
same devices, the devices are the same, the details are the same,
everything is the same.
That you can't possibly comprehend that alone, means you won't even get
close to comprehending the next fact, which I've explained to morons like
you Carlos so many times that I'm sick and tired of explaining the
*obvious* to people like you who simply do not possess adult comprehensive
skills.
It's like you think all Jews are greedy, and that all Germans are racist,
and that all Italians are in the mob and that all Blacks are crooks, etc.
You're *that* unable to comprehend even the remotest amount of detail.
Let me state it yet again, the reason for the headers being completely
random is that I know that automatic aggregators must exist.
So, to help foil the automatic aggregators, my headers are completely
random.
Only a fool like you would even think that I don't say who I am in every
post by the way I write and what I write. You're such a child that I have
to explain the /simplest/ of the most /obvious/ things to you.
It makes me sad to know people like you exist. Your a racist Carlos.
Worse. You're not even a smart racist.
You can't comprehend that there are tools that aggregate based on headers.
You also can't comprhend that there are different models in Usenet.
Your model is to post drivel to other people's threads.
My model is to ask questions in my own threads.
That you don't even /notice/ that simplest of facts, further proves you're
an utter moron. Really.
You don't appear to have the comprehensive skills of a child, and yet, you
are a racist when you accuse me of things that even a fool such as you
knows is completely wrong.
It's just sad that you're so incredibly stupid, Carlos.
Since I don't hide who I am, please, when you next see me ask a technical
question, just go away. Please.
Swatting you away is like swatting away the brainless gnats who swarm
around a juicy picnic ... just so that they can ruin it.
Frank Slootweg
Mar 31, 2018, 2:24:08 PM3/31/18
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Ragnusen Ultred <rrag...@ultred.com> wrote:
[...]
that they *actually* exist, let alone proof of their existance, but your
paranoia doesn't need such silly things.
> So, to help foil the automatic aggregators, my headers are completely
> random.
Except for the annoying tidbit that they are *not* (all) completely
random.
*If* anyone would be so silly to want to write such an "automatic
aggregator", it would be rather easy to collect all/most of your posts.
Just think about it - assuming you are capable of such a mental
exercise -, 'we' - you know those "incredibly stupid" "fools" who "can't
comprehend" anything - can spot your posts a mile away, so it's not
really hard to write an "automatic aggregator".
BUT, it would take a really, really, incredibly stupid individual to
*want* to write such a thing.
Have fun in Paranoia!
[...]
[...]
> Let me state it yet again, the reason for the headers being completely
> random is that I know that automatic aggregators must exist.
Of course they "must" exist, in your paranoia. You have no indication
> random is that I know that automatic aggregators must exist.
that they *actually* exist, let alone proof of their existance, but your
paranoia doesn't need such silly things.
> So, to help foil the automatic aggregators, my headers are completely
> random.
random.
*If* anyone would be so silly to want to write such an "automatic
aggregator", it would be rather easy to collect all/most of your posts.
Just think about it - assuming you are capable of such a mental
exercise -, 'we' - you know those "incredibly stupid" "fools" who "can't
comprehend" anything - can spot your posts a mile away, so it's not
really hard to write an "automatic aggregator".
BUT, it would take a really, really, incredibly stupid individual to
*want* to write such a thing.
Have fun in Paranoia!
[...]
Carlos E.R.
Mar 31, 2018, 11:16:11 PM3/31/18
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On 2018-03-31 19:54, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
> It makes me sad to know people like you exist. Your a racist Carlos.
ROTFL! X'-)
> It makes me sad to know people like you exist. Your a racist Carlos.
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Cheers, Carlos.
peterw...@gmail.com
Apr 1, 2018, 7:39:10 AM4/1/18
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Guys, give it up for Crissakes! The horse is not only dead, but skinned, flayed, flensed, rendered, jerked, dried and canned.
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Apr 1, 2018, 10:31:02 AM4/1/18
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On 3/28/2018 11:24 PM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 28.03.18 um 17:08 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>> On 3/28/2018 6:50 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 27.03.18 um 16:42 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>>>>
>>> Path: news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>>
>>> Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
>>
>>
>> That's not my header, dumbo.
>> LOL
>>
> Path: news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
That's your own header, dumb bunny.
LOL
> Am 28.03.18 um 17:08 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>> On 3/28/2018 6:50 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 27.03.18 um 16:42 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
>>>> On 3/26/2018 4:27 PM, Erholt Rhein wrote:
>>>>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you use as a USB cable strain relief? https://imgur.com/VUSYhBu
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been recently wrapping the ends with the tie wire that comes with
>>>>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
>>>>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You sum kinda idiot?
>>>>> the cable but I would like to know what you use as a USB cable strain
>>>>> relief that works better. https://imgur.com/yjHLBYt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Path: news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>>
>>> Typical Troll path. Did the Army fire you?
>>
>>
>> That's not my header, dumbo.
>> LOL
>>
> Path: news.albasani.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> Certainly. That is exactly the header of your posting. Typical Troll-path.
That's your own header, dumb bunny.
LOL
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Apr 1, 2018, 10:32:05 AM4/1/18
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On 3/29/2018 2:52 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> It is absurd to judge a troll solely for using a free server. I get a
> very different path for the same post.
>
> Path:
> uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!199-v6no6316038itl.0!news-out.google.com!d3-v6ni3566itf.0!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
You folks need some learnin' in how to read headers.
> very different path for the same post.
>
> Path:
> uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!199-v6no6316038itl.0!news-out.google.com!d3-v6ni3566itf.0!nntp.google.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
You folks need some learnin' in how to read headers.
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Apr 1, 2018, 10:32:59 AM4/1/18
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On 3/29/2018 1:37 PM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 29.03.18 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Slootweg:
>> The right-hand part of the Path is the same:
>>
>> Joerg:
>>
>>>> Path:
>>>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>> You:
>>> Path:
>>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>> In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
>> it's only one or two !-parts.
>>
>> The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
>> news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
>> part of the Path is different.
>
> The injection point is: news.highwinds-media.com, a typical troll-server.
>
I don't use highwinds media, dumbo.
> Am 29.03.18 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Slootweg:
>> The right-hand part of the Path is the same:
>>
>> Joerg:
>>
>>>> Path:
>>>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx30.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>> You:
>>> Path:
>>> ...!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx23.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>> In this particular case, a long part of the Path is the same. Normally
>> it's only one or two !-parts.
>>
>> The rest of the Path shows how the post got from the origin to your
>> news server. Because Joerg and you use a different news server, that
>> part of the Path is different.
>
> The injection point is: news.highwinds-media.com, a typical troll-server.
>
I don't use highwinds media, dumbo.
Joerg Lorenz
Apr 1, 2018, 1:16:48 PM4/1/18
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Am 01.04.18 um 16:32 schrieb Colonel Edmund J. Burke:
Certainly you do, Private Burke ...
Joerg Lorenz
Apr 1, 2018, 1:18:31 PM4/1/18
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Am 01.04.18 um 16:32 schrieb Private Edmund J. Burke:
> I don't use highwinds media, dumbo.
>
news.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad!fx44.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
Joerg Lorenz
Apr 1, 2018, 1:22:41 PM4/1/18
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Am 01.04.18 um 16:30 schrieb Private Edmund J. Burke:
That shows all users, that you have no clue: I'm using the
Albasani-server and everybody can see it.
Private Burke, you are fired and as of now in my killfile!
Albasani-server and everybody can see it.
Private Burke, you are fired and as of now in my killfile!
Tekkie®
Apr 2, 2018, 5:13:57 PM4/2/18
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Tim posted for all of us...
This reply was regarding the old towels used to clean vehicle windshields
NOT USB cables.
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Tekkie
NOT USB cables.
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Tekkie
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