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Jeff Urban
Dec 17, 2019, 6:07:52 PM12/17/19
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Have an HP CM1312nfi MFP. Had a nice old XP box that was the print server, Got a Vista box and a 7, there are 8 and 10 boxes in the house ad I would like to be able to print from any of them.
One disadvantage was that the XP box had to be to print. I tried to get the thing to boot itself after a power outage but had some problems with that, but it worked fine otherwise. The OS was slightly damaged but it was fine, I just could never get rid of the password box at boot even though there was no password set. By the way I do not care about security, all my stuff stays sighed in to everything. So someone could read my email, so can the government and I would even less want them able to. No kids, and people here are not nosy. Noone is here alone except us, ever.
Anyway I decided to plug the printer into the network directly. The disk I got with the printer doesn't cover anything past XP but the Vista box worked automatically. I left two PC groups because they don't like anything that is not brand new. the last straw was when one said "Printer that is only worth $250". Yeah, how much is YOUR printer worth ? If it is an inkjet you would ave to pay me to take it. So the Vista box lacks an optical drive, Windows lost it when I installed the second HD. there is to much on it now to remove it, for example this browser...
So I go to download the drivers. I got them for 7, 8 and Vista. They come right from HP. They are around 100MB so they are not like an internet assisted install. (the ones that are only a few KB and download as they go along)
In all cases the install starts and just stops. It does not lock up the PC, but I mean one time we tried we went shopping and like 2 hours later it still was sitting there.
The one common denominator I see here is HP, but I find it hard to believe they were trying to force end of life on these things. If they wanted that they would just say "Not Supported".
I might put together another XP box because I got all kinds of software. But still I would rather have the printer on the network.
Anybody got any idea of what the hell is going on here ? I am not throwing out this printer.
One disadvantage was that the XP box had to be to print. I tried to get the thing to boot itself after a power outage but had some problems with that, but it worked fine otherwise. The OS was slightly damaged but it was fine, I just could never get rid of the password box at boot even though there was no password set. By the way I do not care about security, all my stuff stays sighed in to everything. So someone could read my email, so can the government and I would even less want them able to. No kids, and people here are not nosy. Noone is here alone except us, ever.
Anyway I decided to plug the printer into the network directly. The disk I got with the printer doesn't cover anything past XP but the Vista box worked automatically. I left two PC groups because they don't like anything that is not brand new. the last straw was when one said "Printer that is only worth $250". Yeah, how much is YOUR printer worth ? If it is an inkjet you would ave to pay me to take it. So the Vista box lacks an optical drive, Windows lost it when I installed the second HD. there is to much on it now to remove it, for example this browser...
So I go to download the drivers. I got them for 7, 8 and Vista. They come right from HP. They are around 100MB so they are not like an internet assisted install. (the ones that are only a few KB and download as they go along)
In all cases the install starts and just stops. It does not lock up the PC, but I mean one time we tried we went shopping and like 2 hours later it still was sitting there.
The one common denominator I see here is HP, but I find it hard to believe they were trying to force end of life on these things. If they wanted that they would just say "Not Supported".
I might put together another XP box because I got all kinds of software. But still I would rather have the printer on the network.
Anybody got any idea of what the hell is going on here ? I am not throwing out this printer.
Fox's Mercantile
Dec 17, 2019, 7:01:54 PM12/17/19
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On 12/17/19 5:07 PM, Jeff Urban wrote:
> One disadvantage was that the XP box had to be to print.
Or, you could just get one of these.
> One disadvantage was that the XP box had to be to print.
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/233432603034>
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Jeff Urban
Dec 20, 2019, 4:31:04 PM12/20/19
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That won't work since the drivers are the problem. But I am surprised you even took a few minutes to give me an answer because I know you are really not fond of me.
I guess you are more of a Man than I thought, you don't hate. Only children hate, and you know we do have a prime example and who it is...
Anyway I resurrected an XP box and got it just about set up. I guess I will concede that this printer is over ten years old and maybe it just won't run on the new shit. Very low page count though.
This board does have the advantage of supporting more RAM, it had 4 when I got it but since I was going XP I downed it to 3 because it can't use more than 3.3. Now here's an interesting thing, IF it had onboard video could I stick a bunch more ram in it leaving XP with it's 3.3 ad using the rest for video ? It is a moot point because it does not have onboard video, but on a board that does... ???
HA, earlier I told someone I was gong to the basement/shop and building me a state of the art PC, 20 year old software running on 10 year old hardware, but the hardware might be newer. You know, this is a peeve of mine now that I have to do this. Like all this software I got, it won't run, but on XP it will. And I use it.
It is just so easy to rescale images, print schematics in sections, which I had to do to work on a frequency counter and something else...
Now the problem is I need 3 more SATA ports. This thing only has 2. I got 2 drives to live in there and one I need to do the "Take possession of these files" thing from the boot drive of the old one. I am glad I stopped using the "My Documents" and made directories for most of my stuff.
Like I said I am not that worried about security. Even the kinky sex pictures of me and...well I don't name names. Nobody can do jack shit to me.
Anyway, thanks for your effort. Now I need to find a PCI SATA card. Nice thing about that is they'll all fit then.
I guess you are more of a Man than I thought, you don't hate. Only children hate, and you know we do have a prime example and who it is...
Anyway I resurrected an XP box and got it just about set up. I guess I will concede that this printer is over ten years old and maybe it just won't run on the new shit. Very low page count though.
This board does have the advantage of supporting more RAM, it had 4 when I got it but since I was going XP I downed it to 3 because it can't use more than 3.3. Now here's an interesting thing, IF it had onboard video could I stick a bunch more ram in it leaving XP with it's 3.3 ad using the rest for video ? It is a moot point because it does not have onboard video, but on a board that does... ???
HA, earlier I told someone I was gong to the basement/shop and building me a state of the art PC, 20 year old software running on 10 year old hardware, but the hardware might be newer. You know, this is a peeve of mine now that I have to do this. Like all this software I got, it won't run, but on XP it will. And I use it.
It is just so easy to rescale images, print schematics in sections, which I had to do to work on a frequency counter and something else...
Now the problem is I need 3 more SATA ports. This thing only has 2. I got 2 drives to live in there and one I need to do the "Take possession of these files" thing from the boot drive of the old one. I am glad I stopped using the "My Documents" and made directories for most of my stuff.
Like I said I am not that worried about security. Even the kinky sex pictures of me and...well I don't name names. Nobody can do jack shit to me.
Anyway, thanks for your effort. Now I need to find a PCI SATA card. Nice thing about that is they'll all fit then.
Fox's Mercantile
Dec 21, 2019, 12:38:07 AM12/21/19
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On 12/20/19 3:31 PM, Jeff Urban wrote:
> That won't work since the drivers are the problem. But I am
> surprised you even took a few minutes to give me an answer
> because I know you are really not fond of me.
Despite my opinion of your free association rants about things,
> That won't work since the drivers are the problem. But I am
> surprised you even took a few minutes to give me an answer
> because I know you are really not fond of me.
you are NOT in the same category as Arlen.
> Anyway I resurrected an XP box and got it just about set up.
can run that as a network printer on XP.
You can also try running the earlier drivers on a later version
of Windows and see if they will talk to it as a network printer.
Jeff Urban
Dec 21, 2019, 2:34:37 PM12/21/19
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I did put together another XP box. Actually it worked but I didn't realize it. After the power glitches it just stalled on boot, but then I found a non-bootable floppy in it. Maybe it is my stupidity... butt it has the eject button that sticks out when there is a disk in there and I noticed it, and the thing booted. I still had to let scandisk run on boot so that everything runs. The fact that it is so fast is not the prime reason for it. I have software I need, that is that. Programs open before you can even thin "one thousand one". I get to "one t" and that is it.
That adapter you pointed me to might be a good idea. I am having trouble with this MODEM and if they ever tell me I am going to die in a month ATT is taking a hit. The way it is I finally got a fairly reliable connection but it is both on wire and wireless.
The printer is on the table next to mt bench, I could use that space for other things. So if it is wireless I can put it just about anywhere, now that I got something that will drive it.
This board only has two SATAs on it ! WTF. I found a PCI card that adds four and it is under ten bucks shipped, that is on eBay and my account doesn't work, they wanted me to change my password and I didn't. I will check with my parts vendors ad see if any has one and combine it with something else to save shipping. Yes,I am cheap, well at least when it comes to some shit. So that adapter, (I CAN buy off eBay) all fine and good, BUT, then where do I put the printer ? this is a BIG house but two other people live here with as much junk as I got, plus I got my business here. The first landing at the stairs would be great but there is no room. it is used like a depot, if someone buys a big bag of apples, oranges or whatever they take some and leave some there. Plus the question, how do I scan ?
Still without the wire I have many more options, all I need is electricity.
This new old box is already partly customized, when I get the other drives in it then I will start on the Sendto menu.
That adapter you pointed me to might be a good idea. I am having trouble with this MODEM and if they ever tell me I am going to die in a month ATT is taking a hit. The way it is I finally got a fairly reliable connection but it is both on wire and wireless.
The printer is on the table next to mt bench, I could use that space for other things. So if it is wireless I can put it just about anywhere, now that I got something that will drive it.
This board only has two SATAs on it ! WTF. I found a PCI card that adds four and it is under ten bucks shipped, that is on eBay and my account doesn't work, they wanted me to change my password and I didn't. I will check with my parts vendors ad see if any has one and combine it with something else to save shipping. Yes,I am cheap, well at least when it comes to some shit. So that adapter, (I CAN buy off eBay) all fine and good, BUT, then where do I put the printer ? this is a BIG house but two other people live here with as much junk as I got, plus I got my business here. The first landing at the stairs would be great but there is no room. it is used like a depot, if someone buys a big bag of apples, oranges or whatever they take some and leave some there. Plus the question, how do I scan ?
Still without the wire I have many more options, all I need is electricity.
This new old box is already partly customized, when I get the other drives in it then I will start on the Sendto menu.
Lucifer
Dec 27, 2019, 2:51:21 AM12/27/19
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> PC, but I mean one time we tried we went shopping and like 2 hours
> later it still was sitting there.
>
>The one common denominator I see here is HP, but I find it hard to
> later it still was sitting there.
>
>The one common denominator I see here is HP, but I find it hard to
> elieve they were trying to force end of life on these things. If they
> anted that they would just say "Not Supported".
>
>I might put together another XP box because I got all kinds of
>
>I might put together another XP box because I got all kinds of
> oftware. But still I would rather have the printer on the network.
>
>
>Anybody got any idea of what the hell is going on here ? I am not
> throwing out this printer.
I have a Ricoh Monochrome network laser printer.
>
>
>Anybody got any idea of what the hell is going on here ? I am not
> throwing out this printer.
I couldn't find a driver for Mac OSX 10.7 so I cobbled one together.
It doesn't have all the custom settings but it works.
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