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micky
Feb 25, 2023, 2:23:26 AM2/25/23
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More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
going on, if it's bubbling or not.
The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
burns out.
Meanwhile I came across a video of what to do with the old microwave.
Take my word, you will like this, or at least within a few minutes
you'll know it's not your style, and I think you'll like it more if you
watch it like I did, not knowing where he's going, so here is the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8
This Is Why We Don’t Toss Out Broken Microwaves | Remake Projects
Totally Handy
1.37M subscribers
M is for million?
If you really want to know what it's about before you watch it, scroll
down until you see the abridged version (without video).
Take out the power transformer, cut off one end of the secondary
winding. Punch the remainder of the winding through to the other side,
leaving an open area as big as the winding had been. Take some heavy
gauge wire. He didnn't say the gauge but the copper was about 1/2" in
diameter. Loop it into the open space until it's full, 3 loops, and
then he attaches 2 different things to the ends of the two wires. One
is a cute curvy thing made with wire something like a thick wire hanger.
He turns it on, it gets red hot, and he burns it into the car bumper
cover he is repairing, to splice one side of a cut to the other. He also
uses it to burn decorations into wood.
Then he toook another transformer, did the new secondary the same way,
and connected its wires to thick, pointed but short metal "probes" he
made, mounted on arms, one fixed and one that moved up and down, with
enough reach to allow one to slide sheet metal between them, and he had
a spot welder for sheet metal. Worked very well.
Ah, it was easy to find. I just opened Firefox History and then
searched on youtube, and it was about 20 lines down.
This is why we don't toss out broken microwaves:
Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
going on, if it's bubbling or not.
The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
burns out.
Meanwhile I came across a video of what to do with the old microwave.
Take my word, you will like this, or at least within a few minutes
you'll know it's not your style, and I think you'll like it more if you
watch it like I did, not knowing where he's going, so here is the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8
This Is Why We Don’t Toss Out Broken Microwaves | Remake Projects
Totally Handy
1.37M subscribers
M is for million?
If you really want to know what it's about before you watch it, scroll
down until you see the abridged version (without video).
Take out the power transformer, cut off one end of the secondary
winding. Punch the remainder of the winding through to the other side,
leaving an open area as big as the winding had been. Take some heavy
gauge wire. He didnn't say the gauge but the copper was about 1/2" in
diameter. Loop it into the open space until it's full, 3 loops, and
then he attaches 2 different things to the ends of the two wires. One
is a cute curvy thing made with wire something like a thick wire hanger.
He turns it on, it gets red hot, and he burns it into the car bumper
cover he is repairing, to splice one side of a cut to the other. He also
uses it to burn decorations into wood.
Then he toook another transformer, did the new secondary the same way,
and connected its wires to thick, pointed but short metal "probes" he
made, mounted on arms, one fixed and one that moved up and down, with
enough reach to allow one to slide sheet metal between them, and he had
a spot welder for sheet metal. Worked very well.
Ah, it was easy to find. I just opened Firefox History and then
searched on youtube, and it was about 20 lines down.
This is why we don't toss out broken microwaves:
Rob H
Feb 25, 2023, 2:33:44 AM2/25/23
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alan_m
Feb 25, 2023, 3:40:09 AM2/25/23
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On 25/02/2023 07:33, Rob H wrote:
>
> Yea, like most people has a lathe, a welder machine and cutting discs.
Like a lot of Youtube videos titled something like "DIY - make this
>
> Yea, like most people has a lathe, a welder machine and cutting discs.
useful widget in 15 minutes"
They often start off with manufacturing something with simple hand tools
but then quickly progress to machines or tools that a large engineering
company would be proud to own.
It appears that in the USA anyone that does DIY has a fully equipped
workshop in a workspace the size of a large barn.
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Brian Gaff
Feb 25, 2023, 7:48:35 AM2/25/23
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That seems a little bit niche, and rather a big lump to lug around to me.
I would say that it might be better to remove the transformer, and put it
in its own box and do it that way. Another use for them, according to an
electronics buff, is to liberate a couple and wire them in such a way that
you can get enough voltage after rectification and smoothing, to allow some
of the power valves often on the market cheaply and used in RF
amplification for up to 10 kw, but normally in this country at 400 wats, as
its cheaper than getting the main transformer replaced. I doubt it looks
very nice though.
Brian
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I would say that it might be better to remove the transformer, and put it
in its own box and do it that way. Another use for them, according to an
electronics buff, is to liberate a couple and wire them in such a way that
you can get enough voltage after rectification and smoothing, to allow some
of the power valves often on the market cheaply and used in RF
amplification for up to 10 kw, but normally in this country at 400 wats, as
its cheaper than getting the main transformer replaced. I doubt it looks
very nice though.
Brian
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Max Demian
Feb 25, 2023, 8:57:51 AM2/25/23
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On 25/02/2023 07:23, micky wrote:
> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>
> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>
> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
> burns out.
The lamp on mine is behind one of the internal grills and looks as if
>
> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>
> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
> burns out.
the whole thing would have to be disassembled to replace. It hasn't so
far, and I imagine it could be dangerous to take it apart, with high
voltages being retained.
Someone *did* throw out a microwave near where I live, so I retrieved
the turntable and roller guide in case I break mine, as they charge
about £25 (including p&p) for a replacement and the oven only cost £40.
--
Max Demian
Retirednoguilt
Feb 25, 2023, 10:28:29 AM2/25/23
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On 2/25/2023 8:57 AM, Max Demian wrote:
>
>
> Someone *did* throw out a microwave near where I live, so I retrieved
> the turntable and roller guide in case I break mine, as they charge
> about £25 (including p&p) for a replacement and the oven only cost £40.
>
When our microwave needed to be replaced, I salvaged not only the
>
>
> Someone *did* throw out a microwave near where I live, so I retrieved
> the turntable and roller guide in case I break mine, as they charge
> about £25 (including p&p) for a replacement and the oven only cost £40.
>
turntable and roller guide, but also the plastic spindle that sits on
the turntable motor's shaft and has horizontal leaves that fit into the
underside of the turntable. I once had one of those spontaneously crack
apart and the replacement part (plus shipping) seemed disproportionately
expensive for a small piece of molded plastic. Good to have a spare.
Bob F
Feb 25, 2023, 12:03:10 PM2/25/23
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Also, a couple old microwave transformers.
SteveW
Feb 25, 2023, 1:03:32 PM2/25/23
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On 25/02/2023 08:40, alan_m wrote:
> On 25/02/2023 07:33, Rob H wrote:
>
>>
>> Yea, like most people has a lathe, a welder machine and cutting discs.
>
>
> Like a lot of Youtube videos titled something like "DIY - make this
> useful widget in 15 minutes"
>
> They often start off with manufacturing something with simple hand tools
> but then quickly progress to machines or tools that a large engineering
> company would be proud to own.
>
> It appears that in the USA anyone that does DIY has a fully equipped
> workshop in a workspace the size of a large barn.
I don't have a lot of space, but I do have a lathe, milling machine,
> On 25/02/2023 07:33, Rob H wrote:
>
>>
>> Yea, like most people has a lathe, a welder machine and cutting discs.
>
>
> Like a lot of Youtube videos titled something like "DIY - make this
> useful widget in 15 minutes"
>
> They often start off with manufacturing something with simple hand tools
> but then quickly progress to machines or tools that a large engineering
> company would be proud to own.
>
> It appears that in the USA anyone that does DIY has a fully equipped
> workshop in a workspace the size of a large barn.
pillar drill, welders and a whole lot of other stuff as it happens.
The copper probes that he made for the spot welder, could have been made
with hand tools, they would just not be as neat and it would have taken
longer.
micky
Feb 25, 2023, 5:49:00 PM2/25/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 25 Feb 2023 10:28:24 -0500, Retirednoguilt
All our townhouses were alike when built, and when my neighbor remodeled
I even took the lid from the toilet tank, in case I ever break mine. I
don't know where I put it.
And I had a cardboard cylinder of toilet bowl cleaner in the cabinet
under the sink and the fumes damaged the hinges, so the door sits open
an inch all the time, so when someone else remodeled, I took spare
hinges.
When someone else got a new furnace, I took the whole oil pump, sprayer,
transformer, electrodes, and the electric control box. I've used the
transformer and the control box to replace ones that failed. (Later I
found out that they sell universal transformer replacements and probably
control boxes that will fit, but this way I have the part right there,
and free.)
And early on, when someone threw out the folding, stiff plastic shower
stall door, it was too long for me to have a nice place to put it, so I
asked my girlfriend to store it. She had a really big basement with
extra-high ceiling, so her prior husband could lift weights. We broke
up a year later and I'll bet she still has it, 30 years later, and
doesn't know what it is or where she got it.
Meanwhile, my door is still in good condition. I thought the solvents
would evaporate and the door would become brittle. Maybe it has but I'm
very careful.
I even took the lid from the toilet tank, in case I ever break mine. I
don't know where I put it.
And I had a cardboard cylinder of toilet bowl cleaner in the cabinet
under the sink and the fumes damaged the hinges, so the door sits open
an inch all the time, so when someone else remodeled, I took spare
hinges.
When someone else got a new furnace, I took the whole oil pump, sprayer,
transformer, electrodes, and the electric control box. I've used the
transformer and the control box to replace ones that failed. (Later I
found out that they sell universal transformer replacements and probably
control boxes that will fit, but this way I have the part right there,
and free.)
And early on, when someone threw out the folding, stiff plastic shower
stall door, it was too long for me to have a nice place to put it, so I
asked my girlfriend to store it. She had a really big basement with
extra-high ceiling, so her prior husband could lift weights. We broke
up a year later and I'll bet she still has it, 30 years later, and
doesn't know what it is or where she got it.
Meanwhile, my door is still in good condition. I thought the solvents
would evaporate and the door would become brittle. Maybe it has but I'm
very careful.
micky
Feb 25, 2023, 10:36:48 PM2/25/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 25 Feb 2023 07:33:39 +0000, Rob H
electric drill and turns it into a drill press. There are even cheaper
things that just hold the electric drill in place. I did think about
buying a cheap drill press, but cmoputers interfered and I don't spend
as much time doing active things anymore. Instead I sit a this desk
getttng fat.
Plus I have a double grinding wheel** and you could just hold the rod up
against the grindstone and carefully rotate it in your fingers. After
the end is tapered, cut it to the right length. And I have an angle
grinder that he used. And I think maybe you could even just use an
electric sander???
**My grinding wheel was very cheap. It is just a bracket with an
axlet that holds a grindstone or wire wheel at each each. I added a
left-over motor I got somewhere, that already had a pully, and I bought
belt and mouted it all to a board, which is clamed to my workbench.
The angle grinder has cutting and other discs.
I have a very cheap set of taps and dies, under $10, although probably
not one that big. Maybe one could use speed nuts if they make them that
big. Maybe one could just thick nails, if they woudln't overheat.
I don't think he used a welder. In fact he made one.
Plus it's an excuse to buy more tools and that's always good.
<r...@despammer.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yea, like most people has a lathe, a welder machine and cutting discs.
He's using a drill press, and I have a cheap device that holds a hand
>
>
>Yea, like most people has a lathe, a welder machine and cutting discs.
electric drill and turns it into a drill press. There are even cheaper
things that just hold the electric drill in place. I did think about
buying a cheap drill press, but cmoputers interfered and I don't spend
as much time doing active things anymore. Instead I sit a this desk
getttng fat.
Plus I have a double grinding wheel** and you could just hold the rod up
against the grindstone and carefully rotate it in your fingers. After
the end is tapered, cut it to the right length. And I have an angle
grinder that he used. And I think maybe you could even just use an
electric sander???
**My grinding wheel was very cheap. It is just a bracket with an
axlet that holds a grindstone or wire wheel at each each. I added a
left-over motor I got somewhere, that already had a pully, and I bought
belt and mouted it all to a board, which is clamed to my workbench.
The angle grinder has cutting and other discs.
I have a very cheap set of taps and dies, under $10, although probably
not one that big. Maybe one could use speed nuts if they make them that
big. Maybe one could just thick nails, if they woudln't overheat.
I don't think he used a welder. In fact he made one.
Plus it's an excuse to buy more tools and that's always good.
Adrian Caspersz
Feb 26, 2023, 1:13:51 AM2/26/23
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On 25/02/2023 07:23, micky wrote:
> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>
<snip>
>
He also
> uses it to burn decorations into wood.
--
Adrian C
Andy Burns
Feb 26, 2023, 3:30:56 AM2/26/23
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Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> micky wrote:
>
>> He also uses it to burn decorations into wood.
>
> Sadly some individuals have been killed attempting this.
figures in wood with high voltage ... but what I saw was not that,
rather high current heating an element red hot to "brand" wood.
Andy Burns
Feb 26, 2023, 3:39:49 AM2/26/23
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Andy Burns wrote:
> using high voltage to make Lichtenberg figures in wood with high voltage
^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> using high voltage to make Lichtenberg figures in wood with high voltage
I blame low caffeine levels
nos...@ntlworld.com
Feb 26, 2023, 12:05:33 PM2/26/23
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 02:23:20 -0500
micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
> Meanwhile I came across a video of what to do with the old microwave.
>
> Take my word, you will like this, or at least within a few minutes
> you'll know it's not your style, and I think you'll like it more if
> you watch it like I did, not knowing where he's going, so here is the
> link.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8
>
That's been done so many times before. Hot staplers are £25 on Amazon.
micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
> Meanwhile I came across a video of what to do with the old microwave.
>
> Take my word, you will like this, or at least within a few minutes
> you'll know it's not your style, and I think you'll like it more if
> you watch it like I did, not knowing where he's going, so here is the
> link.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8
>
Spot welders need a fairly high and repeatable clamping force (and a
timer) to make good welds, a wonky bit of plywood isn't a good choice
for this - you'd do better using your MIG/TIG welder to make button
welds.
Sam Plusnet
Feb 26, 2023, 3:56:09 PM2/26/23
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On 25-Feb-23 8:40, alan_m wrote:
>
> It appears that in the USA anyone that does DIY has a fully equipped
> workshop in a workspace the size of a large barn.
Anyone who does DIY - on YouTube - has a fully equipped...
>
> It appears that in the USA anyone that does DIY has a fully equipped
> workshop in a workspace the size of a large barn.
--
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micky
Feb 26, 2023, 3:56:32 PM2/26/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 26 Feb 2023 17:05:25 +0000,
But -sob- I don't have a MIG/TIG welder. more sobbing. I do have a
broken microwave.
I think HD sells both wonky and nonwonky plywood. I'll ask for nonwonky.
broken microwave.
I think HD sells both wonky and nonwonky plywood. I'll ask for nonwonky.
Sam Plusnet
Feb 26, 2023, 3:59:03 PM2/26/23
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On 25-Feb-23 13:57, Max Demian wrote:
> On 25/02/2023 07:23, micky wrote:
>> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>>
>> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
>> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>>
>> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
>> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
>> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
>> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
>> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
>> burns out.
>
> The lamp on mine is behind one of the internal grills and looks as if
> the whole thing would have to be disassembled to replace. It hasn't so
> far, and I imagine it could be dangerous to take it apart, with high
> voltages being retained.
The lamp in our microwave is just the same, but as it has carried on
> On 25/02/2023 07:23, micky wrote:
>> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>>
>> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
>> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>>
>> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
>> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
>> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
>> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
>> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
>> burns out.
>
> The lamp on mine is behind one of the internal grills and looks as if
> the whole thing would have to be disassembled to replace. It hasn't so
> far, and I imagine it could be dangerous to take it apart, with high
> voltages being retained.
working for the last 40-odd years, it will probably carry on for a few more.
--
Sam Plusnet
Sam Plusnet
Feb 26, 2023, 4:02:12 PM2/26/23
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On 26-Feb-23 8:39, Andy Burns wrote:
> I blame low caffeine levels
>
It's a scourge, and the NHS seem to ignore this terrible condition.
> I blame low caffeine levels
>
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Sam Plusnet
micky
Feb 26, 2023, 4:06:32 PM2/26/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 26 Feb 2023 08:30:51 +0000, Andy Burns
I was going to ask what he was getting at. Thanks for pointing out the
difference. I watched a vidoe of Lichtenberg etc, and it looked a lot
more dangerous and came with many warnings. There was also a suggestion
to make Lichtenburg tattoos. They said thay'd tried it but it was too
hard because they wouldn't stop twitching.
difference. I watched a vidoe of Lichtenberg etc, and it looked a lot
more dangerous and came with many warnings. There was also a suggestion
to make Lichtenburg tattoos. They said thay'd tried it but it was too
hard because they wouldn't stop twitching.
legg
Feb 27, 2023, 10:03:09 AM2/27/23
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 02:23:20 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:
>More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>
>Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
>going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>
>The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
>since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
>give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
>bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
>matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
>burns out.
>
They should make lamps and fuses more easily replaceable.
Platter replacement is too exxpensive - should be made
available retail, where ovens are sold.
Microswitches in the door will last longer if the microwave
is paused or stopped before opening the door. Too many people
use a door pull to terminate cooking.
RL
wrote:
>More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>
>Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
>going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>
>The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
>since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
>give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
>bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
>matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
>burns out.
>
Platter replacement is too exxpensive - should be made
available retail, where ovens are sold.
Microswitches in the door will last longer if the microwave
is paused or stopped before opening the door. Too many people
use a door pull to terminate cooking.
RL
Tim+
Feb 27, 2023, 11:35:53 AM2/27/23
to
years of abuse.
Are bulbs really that hard to replace in modern machine once you’ve whipped
the cover off or are folk too feart to peek under the cover these days?
Tim
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Mark Lloyd
Feb 27, 2023, 12:57:09 PM2/27/23
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On 2/25/23 07:57, Max Demian wrote:
[snip]
> The lamp on mine is behind one of the internal grills and looks as if
> the whole thing would have to be disassembled to replace. It hasn't so
> far, and I imagine it could be dangerous to take it apart, with high
> voltages being retained.
Mine is like that, but there is a piece of metal on the back that can be
removed.
BTW, its the only bulb I've seen (except for big Christmas lights) using
an intermediate base.
> Someone *did* throw out a microwave near where I live, so I retrieved
> the turntable and roller guide in case I break mine, as they charge
> about £25 (including p&p) for a replacement and the oven only cost £40.
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Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/
"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem Entities should not
be multiplied unnecessarily." -- William of Ockham, Quodlibeta
[snip]
> The lamp on mine is behind one of the internal grills and looks as if
> the whole thing would have to be disassembled to replace. It hasn't so
> far, and I imagine it could be dangerous to take it apart, with high
> voltages being retained.
removed.
BTW, its the only bulb I've seen (except for big Christmas lights) using
an intermediate base.
> Someone *did* throw out a microwave near where I live, so I retrieved
> the turntable and roller guide in case I break mine, as they charge
> about £25 (including p&p) for a replacement and the oven only cost £40.
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be multiplied unnecessarily." -- William of Ockham, Quodlibeta
Billy B
Feb 27, 2023, 1:05:11 PM2/27/23
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BTW, I don't really consider caffeine itself as bad, but there IS a
problem when you get addicted (and so have lost some control).
micky
Feb 27, 2023, 4:16:29 PM2/27/23
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In alt.home.repair, on 27 Feb 2023 16:35:48 GMT, Tim+
>Are bulbs really that hard to replace in modern machine once you’ve whipped
>the cover off or are folk too feart to peek under the cover these days?
>
>Tim
It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
standard light bulb?
<tim.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 02:23:20 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>>>
>>> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
>>> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>>>
>>> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
>>> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
>>> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
>>> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
>>> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
>>> burns out.
>>>
>>
>> They should make lamps and fuses more easily replaceable.
>> Platter replacement is too exxpensive - should be made
>> available retail, where ovens are sold.
>>
>> Microswitches in the door will last longer if the microwave
>> is paused or stopped before opening the door. Too many people
>> use a door pull to terminate cooking.
>
>Well after 35 years the switches are still working well in mine despite
>years of abuse.
I'm just one guy but I've never had problem with the switches either.
>legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 02:23:20 -0500, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> More good and bad about my new and old microwaves.
>>>
>>> Good, the door is much easier to see through. I can actually see what's
>>> going on, if it's bubbling or not.
>>>
>>> The light bulb costs iirc 15 to 20 dollars. It's a whole assembly, and
>>> since I don't want to keep the thing in parts for a week, I'll probably
>>> give in and buy it in advance, instead of trying to replace the broken
>>> bulb (which they don't want you to do. Maybe you can't even get a
>>> matching bulb.) But all this is for years from now if/when the bulb
>>> burns out.
>>>
>>
>> They should make lamps and fuses more easily replaceable.
>> Platter replacement is too exxpensive - should be made
>> available retail, where ovens are sold.
>>
>> Microswitches in the door will last longer if the microwave
>> is paused or stopped before opening the door. Too many people
>> use a door pull to terminate cooking.
>
>Well after 35 years the switches are still working well in mine despite
>years of abuse.
>Are bulbs really that hard to replace in modern machine once you’ve whipped
>the cover off or are folk too feart to peek under the cover these days?
>
>Tim
Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
standard light bulb?
Adrian Caspersz
Feb 28, 2023, 5:08:30 AM2/28/23
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On 27/02/2023 18:05, Billy B wrote:
> On 2/26/23 02:39, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> using high voltage to make Lichtenberg figures in wood with high voltage
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> I blame low caffeine levels
>
> People make a lot of excuses for their drug addiction.
Think that was in jest?
> On 2/26/23 02:39, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> using high voltage to make Lichtenberg figures in wood with high voltage
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> I blame low caffeine levels
>
> People make a lot of excuses for their drug addiction.
> BTW, I don't really consider caffeine itself as bad, but there IS a
> problem when you get addicted (and so have lost some control).
>
controlled amounts of caffeine are really helpful (Coffee, Diet Cola).
What is not, is coming off overnight shifts and some bright spark
suggests that down time should be spent downing alcohol and much food -
I try to avoid it.
I will be replaced by an AI one day, and coffee shop profits will then
plummet.
--
Adrian C
Mark Lloyd
Feb 28, 2023, 12:42:30 PM2/28/23
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On 2/27/23 15:16, micky wrote:
[snip]
> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
> standard light bulb?
My microwave uses the same base as a C9 Christmas light. I wonder if one
of those would work.
"A good rule for interpretation is: 'If the literal sense makes good
sense, seek no other sense lest you come up with nonsense'" [Anonymous]
[snip]
> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
> standard light bulb?
of those would work.
"A good rule for interpretation is: 'If the literal sense makes good
sense, seek no other sense lest you come up with nonsense'" [Anonymous]
micky
Feb 28, 2023, 6:00:49 PM2/28/23
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:42:26 -0600, Mark Lloyd
it apart before buying either a bulb or the assembly.
I don't remember my model number, but I know it's not this one that's
meant to mount under a cabinet. But I happened to look at it:
https://www.repairclinic.com/Repair-Library/Part-Replacement/2181/Ge-Microwave-Light-Bulb-Replacement-Bottom-Panel-Wb25x10019
And it doesn't use an assembly, just a push-in bulb, which they charge
$22.33 for. Surely that's available elsewhere for under $5. Got to be
careful if you don't want to waste money.
<not....@all.invalid> wrote:
>On 2/27/23 15:16, micky wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>> standard light bulb?
>
>My microwave uses the same base as a C9 Christmas light. I wonder if one
>of those would work.
You might be right. When the time comes, maybe I'll be thrifty and take
>On 2/27/23 15:16, micky wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>> standard light bulb?
>
>My microwave uses the same base as a C9 Christmas light. I wonder if one
>of those would work.
it apart before buying either a bulb or the assembly.
I don't remember my model number, but I know it's not this one that's
meant to mount under a cabinet. But I happened to look at it:
https://www.repairclinic.com/Repair-Library/Part-Replacement/2181/Ge-Microwave-Light-Bulb-Replacement-Bottom-Panel-Wb25x10019
And it doesn't use an assembly, just a push-in bulb, which they charge
$22.33 for. Surely that's available elsewhere for under $5. Got to be
careful if you don't want to waste money.
legg
Mar 1, 2023, 8:45:48 AM3/1/23
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get them to run.
Older (1980)Varian-Amana devices used their own sealed bent-metal
switch array which required wiping/burnishing to revive, but their
lamps are externally accessible. These were all used in fast food
restaurants and were platter-free, using rotating reflectors in the
ceiling.
Have never run across a dead klystron.
RL
legg
Mar 1, 2023, 8:48:45 AM3/1/23
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 11:42:26 -0600, Mark Lloyd <not....@all.invalid>
wrote:
wrote:
>On 2/27/23 15:16, micky wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>> standard light bulb?
>
>My microwave uses the same base as a C9 Christmas light. I wonder if one
>of those would work.
You'll probably need a slightly higher wattage - say a 25-40W
>
>[snip]
>
>> It wasn't the effort I complained about but the price, 15 to 20 dollars.
>> Maybe plus shipping because you can't just buy a reguarl bulb
>> everywhere. Plus it now occurs to me that eventually one might not be
>> even able to find this special assembly. Why can't they just use a
>> standard light bulb?
>
>My microwave uses the same base as a C9 Christmas light. I wonder if one
>of those would work.
candelabra style, if it fits.
RL
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