batteries leaked.

[micky]

I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

[Bob F]

On 8/7/2023 4:45 PM, micky wrote:
> I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
> batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

Only if you ignore the batteries until they leak.

[Jeroni Paul]

micky wrote:
> I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
> batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

Yes, very possible, some batteries leak even if still good. I have fixed many things affected by leaks, usually if not left long enough all it needs is cleaning. Also the leak can travel upwards against gravity, because the battery is at the bottom does not stop it to reach the electronics.

[Greta Thongturd]

micky wrote:
> I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
> batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.
>

How dare you! Disposable batteries cause climate change. C'mon man!
A true liberal democrat would use rechargeables, preferably made from materials mined with child labor.

[steve1...@outlook.com]

On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONO...@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
>batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
batteries. Rechargeable batteries don't last for ever. I've never
found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.

[John Robertson]

On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
> I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
> batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don't let this
get to the button pads!
Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
screw(s).

Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.

Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you'd possibly be
surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
your home.

John :-#)#
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[Bob F]

On 8/8/2023 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
>> I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
>> batteries have leaked.   I didn't think that was possible.
>
> Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
> wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don't let this
> get to the button pads!
> Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
> pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
> screw(s).
>
> Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
>
> Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you'd possibly be
> surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
> your home.

I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.

Has anyone else?

[John Robertson]

Ni-Cad batteries have killed many a pinball and jukebox PCB...

https://flippers.com/battery.html

John :-#(#

[The Real Bev]

On 8/8/23 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
>> I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
>> batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.
>
> Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
> wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don't let this
> get to the button pads!
> Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
> pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips
> screw(s).
>
> Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.
>
> Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you'd possibly be
> surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
> your home.

I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
expiration dates. I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
leakage. So far I haven't seen a single one leak.


--
Cheers, Bev
"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority."
-- U.S. Supreme Court, McIntyre v Ohio Elections,1995

[Brian Gregory]

On 08/08/2023 16:34, Bob F wrote:
> I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.
>
> Has anyone else?

Only when accidentally over charged at a fairly high current for much
too long a time.

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

[Brian Gregory]

I've yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
But maybe I will one day.

[Brian Gregory]

On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
> I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
> CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
> expiration dates.   I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
> Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
> leakage.  So far I haven't seen a single one leak.

I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.

https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee

[Brian Gregory]

On 13/08/2023 02:24, Brian Gregory wrote:
> I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
> other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.
>
> https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee
>

Ah ha:
<https://energizer.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/105/2021/02/ENR1209_TermsConditions_V5HIGH.pdf>

[Chuck]

Me either, and I've been using a large quantity of them for years.

[The Real Bev]

On 8/12/23 6:24 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
> On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
>> I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
>> CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
>> expiration dates.   I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
>> Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
>> leakage.  So far I haven't seen a single one leak.
>
> I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
> other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.

The Energizer Max batteries are the common ones available at Walmart and
Sam's, equivalent to the Duracells you get at Costco. Good enough. 10
years. Corsair power supplies give a 10-year warranty. -- which we just
took advantage of after under 2 years. I wonder what else. Samsung $1K
stove had a 1-year warranty. Needed at 8-10 months. I don't care what
anyone says about Samsung's quality, if it only lasts a year it's worthless.

> https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee

https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/battery-leakage

Energizer MAX
Energizer® EcoAdvanced® AA/AAA Alkaline
Energizer® hearing aid batteries
Energizer Recharge® Power Plus and Energizer Recharge® Universal
AA/AAA batteries for up to one year after full discharge
Energizer® Ultimate Lithium™ Batteries (call for details)

It's nice when a company is proud of what it makes.

I bought a charger and set of Duracells for my Nikon digital camera in
1999 or so. They stopped holding a charge, so Duracell sent me a gift
cert for a new set. Wash, rinse, repeat. I ended up with a set of
precharged Duracells (Eneloop-type) which were no better than the
others. None of the rechargeables worked well in my Canon 720IS. I
really want to use rechargeables, but they don't work worth shit,
especially in things not used regularly.

--
Cheers, Bev
What if there were no hypothetical questions?

[Bob F]

I think it is often a matter of devices not designed properly for NiCd
and NiMh batteries lower voltage. Designed for alkaline 1.5V batteries,
they think the battery is dead with lower voltage rechargeables that
provide most of their power just above 1.2V.

[steve1...@outlook.com]

On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 02:20:34 +0100, Brian Gregory
<void-invalid...@email.invalid> wrote:

I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.

[Jeroni Paul]

steve1...@outlook.com wrote:
> I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
> rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.

For low power devices like clocks and remotes, rechargeables do not work well (NiCd and NiMH). They do not last as long and when the device stops working they have been discharged for so long that their internal chemistry is damaged and go high resistance. Due to that some smart charges may refuse to charge them, sometimes they can be recovered with some charge-discharge cycles but will not be like new. Rechargeables are much better for high power devices that will cycle them frequently.

[steve1...@outlook.com]

That's good advice. I'll change the batteries in my remotes. I'm sure
they were supplied with rechargeable but perhaps not!