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micky

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Sep 23, 2017, 10:59:08 PM9/23/17
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People on Amazon ask some of the stupidest questions (he said, as he's
about to ask one).

I"m looking at a panel-mount extension cord for a car radio with USB and
3.5mm inputs, and someone asks "could i use this to connect a usb
headset to the 3.5mm headphone jack on my tv?"

And all the answers related to the fact that it uses two unconnected
cables, and about converting from one jack to another, and I thought the
problem was deeper than that, that there is no way to make an adapter
from the audio output of a 3.5mm jack to a USB headset, because, well,
it's USB! It's uses some sort of fancy USB signal, like all the other
USB devices do. It doesn't have L+, R+ and ground, like earphones with
round plugs on the end have. OR does it?

BTW, I use little powered Logitech USB speakers with my laptop and they
get their power from the USB, and they work very well. If I'm wrong
above, does the power piggyback on one of the 3 wires or does it use the
fourth wire?

Tnx.

~misfit~

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Sep 24, 2017, 9:15:19 AM9/24/17
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Maybe the 5th - the shield ground?
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)


Trevor Wilson

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Sep 24, 2017, 6:34:50 PM9/24/17
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On 24/09/2017 12:59 PM, micky wrote:
> People on Amazon ask some of the stupidest questions (he said, as he's
> about to ask one).
>
> I"m looking at a panel-mount extension cord for a car radio with USB and
> 3.5mm inputs, and someone asks "could i use this to connect a usb
> headset to the 3.5mm headphone jack on my tv?"

**No.

>
> And all the answers related to the fact that it uses two unconnected
> cables, and about converting from one jack to another, and I thought the
> problem was deeper than that, that there is no way to make an adapter
> from the audio output of a 3.5mm jack to a USB headset, because, well,
> it's USB! It's uses some sort of fancy USB signal, like all the other
> USB devices do. It doesn't have L+, R+ and ground, like earphones with
> round plugs on the end have. OR does it?

**No, it doesn't. USB (Universal Serial Bus) is a digital connection
system. Any audio signal present is in a digital form and must be
converted to analogue, before it can be heard.

>
> BTW, I use little powered Logitech USB speakers with my laptop and they
> get their power from the USB, and they work very well. If I'm wrong
> above, does the power piggyback on one of the 3 wires or does it use the
> fourth wire?

**Part of the USB convention is that a small amount of DC power can be
transferred to devices that require it.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

micky

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Oct 9, 2017, 10:57:40 AM10/9/17
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In sci.electronics.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:34:43 +1000, Trevor
Wilson <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

>On 24/09/2017 12:59 PM, micky wrote:
>> People on Amazon ask some of the stupidest questions (he said, as he's
>> about to ask one).
>>
>> I"m looking at a panel-mount extension cord for a car radio with USB and
>> 3.5mm inputs, and someone asks "could i use this to connect a usb
>> headset to the 3.5mm headphone jack on my tv?"
>
>**No.
>
>>
>> And all the answers related to the fact that it uses two unconnected
>> cables, and about converting from one jack to another, and I thought the
>> problem was deeper than that, that there is no way to make an adapter
>> from the audio output of a 3.5mm jack to a USB headset, because, well,
>> it's USB! It's uses some sort of fancy USB signal, like all the other
>> USB devices do. It doesn't have L+, R+ and ground, like earphones with
>> round plugs on the end have. OR does it?
>
>**No, it doesn't. USB (Universal Serial Bus) is a digital connection
>system. Any audio signal present is in a digital form and must be
>converted to analogue, before it can be heard.

It took a while for this to sink in but I think you're right. Maybe the
adapter has some converter. It's coming from China and it's made it to
California and will arrive in a week, and I'll know then. ;-)

Otherwise, I think I can convert the mp3's to .cda's though I haven't
found a converter yet that will do a whole directory, not just one at a
time.

.cda's are iirc 4 times as big as .mp3's but flash drives are so big now
the only problem is the time it takes to convert things.

Mike Coon

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Oct 9, 2017, 3:52:36 PM10/9/17
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In article <pc3ntchmttbv1jorv...@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
@bigfoot.com says...
>
> Otherwise, I think I can convert the mp3's to .cda's though I haven't
> found a converter yet that will do a whole directory, not just one at a
> time.

Goldwave (http://goldwave.com/release.php#download) has a "Batch"
conversion function. Not sure if it is available for free; I have had a
licence for years.

Mike.

micky

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Oct 9, 2017, 9:44:05 PM10/9/17
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In sci.electronics.repair, on Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:52:28 +0100, Mike Coon
<gra...@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:

>In article <pc3ntchmttbv1jorv...@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
>@bigfoot.com says...
>>
>> Otherwise, I think I can convert the mp3's to .cda's though I haven't
>> found a converter yet that will do a whole directory, not just one at a
>> time.
>
>Goldwave (http://goldwave.com/release.php#download) has a "Batch"
>conversion function.

Great. Thanks.

>Not sure if it is available for free; I have had a
>licence for years.
>
>Mike.

I have a new plan, which is to spend more money. I made it from 65
almost to 71 without running out of money, and if I up my spending , I
think I'll still be okay. (Of course for me, that's only 200 or 300 a
year.)

It took me a while to find the price: US$45 (Lifetime) • US$15 (One
Year)

Wow, It does a lot of things. I'll probably never do anything but
conversions to CDA, and only until I get a car radio that plays MP3s,
but that will probably be 6 or 7 years.

There is so much interesting stuff to do. I wish I could live another
100 years.

micky

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Oct 9, 2017, 9:51:53 PM10/9/17
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In sci.electronics.repair, on Mon, 9 Oct 2017 20:52:28 +0100, Mike Coon
<gra...@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:

>In article <pc3ntchmttbv1jorv...@4ax.com>, NONONOmisc07
>@bigfoot.com says...
>>
>> Otherwise, I think I can convert the mp3's to .cda's though I haven't
>> found a converter yet that will do a whole directory, not just one at a
>> time.
>
>Goldwave (http://goldwave.com/release.php#download) has a "Batch"

BTW, "batch" is the word I should have been looking for. It's not like I
don't know the word from IBM mainframes going back to 1977.

>conversion function. Not sure if it is available for free; I have had a
>licence for years.
>
>Mike.

Is it ungrateful to y ou to post that if you search on

batch conversion mp3 to cda

even without the word 'free' there are 3 or more free ones. So if one
works well, I have the $45 for mad-money.

micky

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Oct 10, 2017, 12:30:38 AM10/10/17
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In sci.electronics.repair, on Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:51:47 -0400, micky
Since I was pretty much wrong about the first 3 free ones, I thought I
should report back:

One would think I wouldn't still be so naive. Of the first three free
ones, the first is free when it allows one to convert only half of a
song. For the whole thing it's $10. Still that's not bad and they let
you test it first.
http://download.cnet.com/MP3-to-CDA-Converter-Pro/3000-2140_4-75846423.html

The second https://www.coolutils.com/online/MP3-to-CDA# is an online
converter of one song at a time only, and though the url includes CDA
and the heading is "MP3 to CDA - Free Online Converter", it has 5
choices of what to convert to, and CDA is not one of them!
There is also a batch pc-based converter at the bottom of the page,
but they say nothing about it until you pay $14

The third one is free http://www.converterlite.com/mp3-to-cda/
but in very small, light print at the bottom it says

>Clicking the download button begins installation of InstallIQ™, which manages your ConverterLite installation. Learn More.

Fortunately for me, clicking download didn't begin anything but download
and "Learn More" is a dead link. Still, I'm a little afraid to click on
the install program.

>You may be offered to install the File Association Manager. For more information click here.

this Click Here page is not found either.

>You may be offered to install the Yahoo Toolbar.

I guess I can say no to these two lines.

Another one is "Free Download"@

I will check reviews of the program. They're not great. I'll try the
first one, and when that doesn't work I'll spend the $45!
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