Dishwasher revival

[Tom Del Rosso]

I have a portable Whirlpool dishwasher that hasn't been needed in 10
years. If I use it right out of storage is it likely to leak from dried
out and cracked nylon couplings or something?


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[whit3rd]

Nylon is fine when dry, but ten years is likely to leave the hoses in
poor condition (portable dishwashers usually have flex hoses to the
plumbing attach point). Those aren't hard to replace, but if you want 'em
to look pretty, get a factory-replacement part with the right crimps.

As for 'likely', I'd say plug it in and find out. The external layer of
the hoses might look cracked, but that ISN"T the layer that holds the
water pressure. If youi can do the first test outdoors, or over a drain,
and use a GCFI receptacle for power, faults can't hurt you.

But maybe you don't want the best dishes in the tub when
testing.

[John Robertson]

Also it is likely the door seals are dried out and it will happily leak
all over the place.

I'd test it outside instead of in my kitchen...

John :-#)#

[Look165]

Generally, those gaskets are symetrical.
It might be fixed by mounting the gaset upside down.
The bottom is more compressed than the top ans thus can leak.

[Peter Jason]

I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein
shorted out the ''control card''.

I now find I can live happily without one, no
doubt saving heaps on power & water.

Consider this option unless you run a boarding
house.

My front-load washing machine brochure advises to
leave the front door open or ajar between washes
to save on seal wear.

[peterw...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:

> I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein
> shorted out the ''control card''.
>
> I now find I can live happily without one, no
> doubt saving heaps on power & water.
>
> Consider this option unless you run a boarding
> house.

Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, and about 4.4 gallons for 'scrub-the-paint-off-a-board' mode - which we seldom use. And, as there is no direct heating element, there are no worries about melting anything or anyone getting burnt. It has the capacity to make its own hot water, although if the domestic hot water is enough (150F), it will not. As most of us do not keep our domestic water at 150F, that is also a useful feature. We do not have to scrape dishes, anything softer than a hard nut and smaller than walnut is fine, and crusty eggs, pasta sauce and similar are no challenge at all. Those hard nuts will simply wind up in the pan-filter, no clogs.

Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing.

Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[tabb...@gmail.com]

On Monday, 25 February 2019 12:56:00 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:

> > I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein
> > shorted out the ''control card''.
> >
> > I now find I can live happily without one, no
> > doubt saving heaps on power & water.

'no doubt' usually means a person hasn't worked it out & doesn't know.

> > Consider this option unless you run a boarding
> > house.
>
> Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, and about 4.4 gallons for 'scrub-the-paint-off-a-board' mode - which we seldom use. And, as there is no direct heating element, there are no worries about melting anything or anyone getting burnt. It has the capacity to make its own hot water, although if the domestic hot water is enough (150F), it will not. As most of us do not keep our domestic water at 150F, that is also a useful feature. We do not have to scrape dishes, anything softer than a hard nut and smaller than walnut is fine, and crusty eggs, pasta sauce and similar are no challenge at all. Those hard nuts will simply wind up in the pan-filter, no clogs.
>
> Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing.
>
> Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse.
>
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA

Great for modern stuff too, just not relays or speakers etc.

I calculated a few years ago that handwashing could save around 40p/hr compared to using a machine. If anyone wants to work for that much, what can one say.


NT

[John Robertson]

On 2019/02/25 4:55 a.m., pf...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>> I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein
>> shorted out the ''control card''.
>>
>> I now find I can live happily without one, no
>> doubt saving heaps on power & water.
>>
>> Consider this option unless you run a boarding
>> house.
>

> Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, ...

>
> Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse.

Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for
cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine?

>
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
>

John ;-#)#

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[tabb...@gmail.com]

On Monday, 25 February 2019 16:44:48 UTC, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2019/02/25 4:55 a.m., pf...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:

> > Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, ...
> >
> > Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse.
>
> Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for
> cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine?

Some folk have been known to wash bog seats in them. Those are the ones that don't stay married.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 2/25/19 10:44 AM, John Robertson wrote:
> Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate
> machine for cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen
> machine?

I have three dishwashers.
One in the kitchen at the house, one in the kitchen in the
"mother in law" apartment behind the house, and one at the
shop.

--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com

[peterw...@gmail.com]

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:

>
> Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for
> cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine?

John:

It is a division of labor that has worked now for very nearly 39 years, 36 of them married. I am in charge of appliance O&M and their proper function. My wife is a user of same, and as long as they operate smoothly when she needs them, she could care less on the throughput.

As we are on a municipal sewer with the means to control phosphorous, and chelate heavy metals, I have no qualms about using conventional detergents. Which, in turn, contain enough bleach as to render any creepy-crawlies dead. So, when she needs the Dishwasher, the inside (stainless) is pristine and odor-free.

Our shared joke is that the hobby keeps me close to home, does not eat, and is cheaper than another woman.

[John-Del]

You must have some high falootin' women round your parts Peter..

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <d049a775-a270-40af...@googlegroups.com>,
ohg...@gmail.com says...

>
> > Our shared joke is that the hobby keeps me close to home, does not eat, and is cheaper than another woman.
>
> You must have some high falootin' women round your parts Peter..
>
>

I think other women would be cheeper for me than the hobby IF I had the
money.

[peterw...@gmail.com]

On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 3:26:16 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
>
> You must have some high falootin' women round your parts Peter..

I would like to think so!

[Terry Schwartz]

That is all true -- except that the common detergent packs or liquids are extremely caustic. Much more so than the liquids used for hand-washing dishes. Something to consider.

Terry

[Peter Jason]

Yes, I live alone in unalloyed bliss.
Additionally, I can get by on but one shower/week
(except during heat waves and the odd
bone-chilling winter's day.)

[Clifford Heath]

This could be why you live alone.

[Peter Jason]

I don't care. Washing too often leaches the skin
of natural oils and protective fauna. A
occasional cat-lick at the sink keeps one clean &
healthy. Don't believe everything advertisers
tell you.

[Allodoxaphobia]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:29:32 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

And, evaluate carefully the things you
see espoused by idiots in the interweb!