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Arfa Daily

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Sep 15, 2011, 9:33:57 AM9/15/11
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I had a Hartke combo on the bench today. Owner is a keyboard player, and
reckons that he blows the tweeter fuse regularly, and as a result, the
fuseholder was getting slack and intermittent, so could I put a new one in,
please. He normally gains access to the crossover board to replace the fuse,
by taking out the right hand side handle insert, but the captive nuts were
getting to be a poor grip in the wood, so I decided the easiest alternative
way to do the job, obtaining good access to the board, was to remove the
speaker. The grill is held by ten quite large wood screws, and the speaker
by eight large machine screws, into more captive nuts. I didn't unsolder the
bass driver. Just left it on the bench at the end of its wires. It didn't
take long to fit a new fuseholder, and screw the board back in. I dropped
the speaker back into its hole, and then went to have some lunch. When I
came back, I started to look for the screws to reassemble the thing, and
they were gone .... Now the bench is pretty tidy at the moment, so there's
no reason that they shouldn't have been easily visible, but they weren't.

I spent the next half hour turning the air blue, and accusing everyone from
the missus to next door's cat, of hiding or stealing the screws. I crawled
through all the normal detritus and solder splats under every bench, but
nothing. Eventually, I decided that I must have had a senior moment, and
tidied them into a film pot (I always put screws from items waiting for
parts, into film pots), and put it inside the cabinet. And then forgotten
that I did, so excited was I at the prospect of my toasted cheese sandwiches
for lunch. So I lifted the speaker back out and felt around in the wadding,
but no, nothing. Then the phone rang, so I laid the speaker back down on the
bench and yes - you've guessed it - 18 bloody great screws stuck to the
magnet ... DOH ! d:~\

Arfa

Jim Yanik

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Sep 15, 2011, 9:42:37 AM9/15/11
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"Arfa Daily" <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in
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that's not too bad. at least they were not embedded in the speaker cone.

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jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Jeffrey Angus

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Sep 15, 2011, 10:05:03 AM9/15/11
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On 9/15/2011 8:33 AM, Arfa Daily wrote:
> 18 bloody great screws stuck to the magnet ... DOH ! d:~\

Thank you for not making ME feel completely stupid.

Jeff


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N_Cook

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Arfa Daily <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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So did you put a lamp in there along with the fuse?


Jamie

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Sep 15, 2011, 11:19:10 AM9/15/11
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Jeffrey Angus wrote:

> On 9/15/2011 8:33 AM, Arfa Daily wrote:
>
>> 18 bloody great screws stuck to the magnet ... DOH ! d:~\
>
>
> Thank you for not making ME feel completely stupid.
>
> Jeff
>
>
Why do a partial job :)

Jamie



Arfa Daily

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Sep 15, 2011, 11:11:07 AM9/15/11
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"N_Cook" <div...@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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There already is a festoon bulb, as you often find, and it lights up jolly
nicely when you give it a good thrashing. There was no indication on the
board what value or type the fuse should be. There was a 1.6A fitted. The
owner is not a 'dumb' user, so I'm guessing that the first time he replaced
it, it was a 1.6A that came out. Seems about the right sort of value to me
for a horn. The only thing that I would say, is that the fuse that was
fitted, had no fusing characteristic markings, and looked like a 'straight'
type - but I accept that it can sometimes be hard to tell just from
appearance. It had failed 'cleanly', so may well have been just repeated
stress. I have replaced it now with a 'T' rated type of different
construction, so I guess we'll see ...

Arfa

Jeff Liebermann

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Sep 15, 2011, 11:12:26 AM9/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:33:57 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>...so I laid the speaker back down on the
>bench and yes - you've guessed it - 18 bloody great screws stuck to the
>magnet ... DOH ! d:~\
>Arfa

Chuckle. Now, I don't feel so bad. I use plastic yogurt "tubs" to
store screws. If the unit is going to sit around for more than a day,
I transfer the contents to plastic zip-loc bags. My favorite idiot
error is to knock over the tub, scattering hardware everywhere.


Things I learned a few days ago, while refilling laser printer toner
cartridges.

- Do not try to fill a laser toner cartridge outside
in the wind.

- Do not overfill the toner cartridge.

- Always empty the "waste" toner BEFORE refilling.

- Do not drop the toner bottle on the carpet.

- Do not vacuum toner with a non-HEPA filter bag.

- Do not empty trash can, full of loose toner, into
the dumpster, in the wind.

- Having a spare change of clothes in the office is
very handy.

--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeffrey Angus

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Sep 15, 2011, 11:39:56 AM9/15/11
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On 9/15/2011 10:12 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Things I learned a few days ago, while refilling laser printer toner
> cartridges.

And cold water is your friend, HOT water really just makes it worse.

Jeff-1.0

N_Cook

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Sep 15, 2011, 11:43:40 AM9/15/11
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Arfa Daily <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>


> There already is a festoon bulb, as you often find, and it lights up jolly
> nicely when you give it a good thrashing. There was no indication on the
> board what value or type the fuse should be. There was a 1.6A fitted. The
> owner is not a 'dumb' user, so I'm guessing that the first time he
replaced
> it, it was a 1.6A that came out. Seems about the right sort of value to me
> for a horn. The only thing that I would say, is that the fuse that was
> fitted, had no fusing characteristic markings, and looked like a
'straight'
> type - but I accept that it can sometimes be hard to tell just from
> appearance. It had failed 'cleanly', so may well have been just repeated
> stress. I have replaced it now with a 'T' rated type of different
> construction, so I guess we'll see ...
>
> Arfa
>


Partial shorted turns on the VC ?


JeffM

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Sep 15, 2011, 2:11:54 PM9/15/11
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>I use plastic yogurt "tubs" to store screws.[...]
>My favorite idiot error
>is to knock over the tub, scattering hardware everywhere.
>
Glue each of those to a base that is broader than the tub.
A piece of 1 x 4 would do.

Jeffrey Angus

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Sep 15, 2011, 2:21:12 PM9/15/11
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Right, then I can knock them ALL over at the same time.

Jeff
(The other other one)

Jeff Liebermann

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Sep 15, 2011, 2:30:18 PM9/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:11:54 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
wrote:
Won't work for me. There's no room on the workbench to put anything
that big.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/BL-shop6.html>
The plastic tubs work well enough when all that's inside are some
screws. However, if I put in some brackets or sheet metal hardware,
it becomes top heavy and subject to getting knocked over. Maybe cat
food cans would work better.

JeffM

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Sep 15, 2011, 3:49:34 PM9/15/11
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>>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>I use plastic yogurt "tubs" to store screws.[...]
>>>My favorite idiot error
>>>is to knock over the tub, scattering hardware everywhere.
>>>
>JeffM wrote:
>>Glue each of those to a base that is broader than the tub.
>>A piece of 1 x 4 would do.
>>
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>There's no room on the workbench to put anything that big.
>http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/BL-shop6.html
>
That is pretty cramped.
Adding a base to the cup, however
shouldn't require _that_ much more real estate.
The lip is usually wider than the bottom anyway.
(My favorite beverage vessels have the inverse configuration.)

>if I put in some brackets or sheet metal hardware,
>it becomes top heavy and subject to getting knocked over.
>
Douglas Fir is usually available, but it's the bare minimum.
A chunk of Oak has several times the density.
A piece of steel or lead as a base will offset most loads.

If there's enough steel *inside* the container,
a heavy magnet beneath the platic tub might be the trick.
Magnetized hardware might be an issue, however.

>Maybe cat food cans would work better.
>
Yeah. Low-and-wide tuna cans are hard to upset.
Again, brackets and such are the fly in the ointment.

No *one* perfect solution, I guess.

Jeff Liebermann

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Sep 15, 2011, 6:53:38 PM9/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
wrote:

>>There's no room on the workbench to put anything that big.
>>http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/BL-shop6.html

>That is pretty cramped.

That was the RF bench at home. Here's some of the palatial office
workbenches.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-02.jpg>
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-03.jpg>
The other benches and desks are worse.

>Adding a base to the cup, however
>shouldn't require _that_ much more real estate.

Every square mm is precious.

>The lip is usually wider than the bottom anyway.
>(My favorite beverage vessels have the inverse configuration.)

That makes them tip over. My problem is that I tend to put the cups
and cans on top of the mess. Move anything and over it goes. Putting
a base plate on the cup or can isn't going to help much. A bigger cup
or can, with a cover, just might work.

Maybe if I clean up the mess... never mind, that will never happen.

>No *one* perfect solution, I guess.

Actually, the plastic zip loc bags seem to work well. I haven't
dumped those all over the carpet, yet.

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Jamie

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Sep 15, 2011, 7:33:16 PM9/15/11
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>There's no room on the workbench to put anything that big.
>>>http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/BL-shop6.html

Hey I have that service monitor you have sitting there on your main
bench, along with 2 8640B's with all the goodies in them. Looks like
what you have sitting there in the middle of the pile on the upper
deck towards the right..:)

>
>>That is pretty cramped.
>
>
> That was the RF bench at home. Here's some of the palatial office
> workbenches.
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-02.jpg>
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-03.jpg>

Damn, that looks a lot like my place :)

> The other benches and desks are worse.
>
I will say how ever, I have a bigger path to my benches! :)

Jamie

Meat Plow

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Sep 15, 2011, 8:07:14 PM9/15/11
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Been there several times. Make it now a priority to check the magnet
structure for missing screws.



--
Live Fast Die Young, Leave A Pretty Corpse

Arfa Daily

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Sep 15, 2011, 8:41:41 PM9/15/11
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"N_Cook" <div...@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hard to say. It measures about 6 ohms DC, and produces a nice click when the
Avo is put across it on the /100 range. In my experience, if the Avo can
make a speaker click, then the coil is probably good. Not very scientific, I
know ...

I bunged about 10kHz in from the generator, and with the gain pot no more
than half way up, it hurt my head, which would also tend to indicate that
the horn is probably working pretty much as it should.

Arfa

Arfa Daily

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"Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:33:57 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
> <arfa....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>...so I laid the speaker back down on the
>>bench and yes - you've guessed it - 18 bloody great screws stuck to the
>>magnet ... DOH ! d:~\
>>Arfa
>
> Chuckle. Now, I don't feel so bad. I use plastic yogurt "tubs" to
> store screws. If the unit is going to sit around for more than a day,
> I transfer the contents to plastic zip-loc bags. My favorite idiot
> error is to knock over the tub, scattering hardware everywhere.
>
>
> Things I learned a few days ago, while refilling laser printer toner
> cartridges.
>
> - Do not try to fill a laser toner cartridge outside
> in the wind.
>
> - Do not overfill the toner cartridge.
>
> - Always empty the "waste" toner BEFORE refilling.
>
> - Do not drop the toner bottle on the carpet.
>
> - Do not vacuum toner with a non-HEPA filter bag.
>
> - Do not empty trash can, full of loose toner, into
> the dumpster, in the wind.
>
> - Having a spare change of clothes in the office is
> very handy.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann

I have a big bag of 35mm film pots scavenged from a local film developing
lab. They have a nice 'click-fit' lid, and are just a nice size to 'jam'
nicely into holes between bits of mech. They get endlessly recycled into the
bag, then back out again and into some bit of equipment, and then back into
the bag. They last for years. I use the white 'polythene' ones, and you can
write on these with a Sharpie to remind you where the screws came from. When
the pot comes to be recycled back into the bag, the writing is easily wiped
off with a drop of alcohol on a cloth.

Arfa

Arfa Daily

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"Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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My workshop was beginning to look like that - well maybe not quite that bad,
but getting there. My elder daughter kept threatening to clear it up for me,
so a couple of weeks back, I let her start going through the 'junk' under
the benches, and on top of the one that I mostly work on. It was sorted on
three basic criteria. If I didn't even know that the item was there, it was
time for it to go. If I did know it was there, then it was up for
evaluation. If it hadn't actually been used, or dragged out as a component
donor in the last 2 years, then it was time for it to go. Otherwise, if it
was potentially useful, or had some nostalgic value, then it was cleaned,
catalogued, and tidied back away. The stuff that was deemed 'must go', was
put up on FleaBay. So far, I've made nearly 400 quid ($600). It never ceases
to amaze me what people will buy, and pay good money for. That said, I just
sold an old CB radio. The guy that bought it messed me about with withdrawn
and re-placed bids, and finally got it for a very good price. It was shipped
out the next day by first class signed-for post. Despite my giving a very
accurate description of it, he still found it necessary to continue asking
me questions that he was now in a position to answer for himself. Finally,
today, he left me feedback. "Received OK".

Cheers pal ...

Arfa

Jim Yanik

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Sep 15, 2011, 10:02:17 PM9/15/11
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Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:49:34 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>There's no room on the workbench to put anything that big.
>>>http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/home/slides/BL-shop6.html
>
>>That is pretty cramped.
>
> That was the RF bench at home. Here's some of the palatial office
> workbenches.
><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-02.jpg>
><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-03.jpg>
> The other benches and desks are worse.
>
>>Adding a base to the cup, however
>>shouldn't require _that_ much more real estate.
>
> Every square mm is precious.
>
>>The lip is usually wider than the bottom anyway.
>>(My favorite beverage vessels have the inverse configuration.)
>
> That makes them tip over. My problem is that I tend to put the cups
> and cans on top of the mess. Move anything and over it goes. Putting
> a base plate on the cup or can isn't going to help much. A bigger cup
> or can, with a cover, just might work.
>
> Maybe if I clean up the mess... never mind, that will never happen.
>
>>No *one* perfect solution, I guess.
>
> Actually, the plastic zip loc bags seem to work well. I haven't
> dumped those all over the carpet, yet.
>

you could use an icecube tray,or a muffin/cupcake baking sheet(pan).
they make them in several sizes. Or Even an old egg carton.

if you want to get fancy,use the cupcake liners in the cupcake pan,so you
can lift the hardware out and dump in your ziploc bags.

then there's plastic fishing tackle boxes,available at WalMart.
some of them,you can customize the compartment sizes.

Dave U. Random

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"I may take a little time off not only to enjoy the last days of
summer but to also insure a case that holds Emmett liable for the rest
of his natural life.".

Bwahahahahaaaaaa!!!

Sure do wish you would keep yer lies straight, kook.

> --
> Live Fat Die Broke, Leave A Pustulent Corpse

Fixed yer .sig, Wifekiller Willy.

Yer welcome.


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WHO IS 'MEAT PLOW' from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, giant-headed, stalking, gay
'bear' biker retard who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear'
while wearing only assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr.
(aka Milt, Meat Plow, BlancoBear, Me...@petitmorte.net, Tripp)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Some of this sick fuck's best work, and comments from others about
him:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.buzzard.rules/msg/f630759d6303a19d
Message-ID: <SFexc.17128428$Of.28...@news.easynews.com>

Meat Plow on a stalking holiday excursion, 15 to 22 Aug 2011:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/03314ab006d88a5f
Message-ID: <4thf24....@news.alt.net>
Date 06 Aug 2011
Title: Guess who is going to be in West Palm Beach?
"ME! Got a couple friends who invited me down for a few days. Shit
that's only 60 miles south of Melbourne LMAO!"

Never mind that West Palm Beach, FL is 110 miles (not 60 miles) from
Melbourne, FL.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c1438fbeda11457f
Message-ID: <4thnmr....@news.alt.net>
Date 06 Aug 2011
Title: Guess who is going to be in West Palm Beach?
"Got my itinerary set on Expidia. Will be at PBI on August the 15th
at 11:30 am. Got a nice 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee reserved. I'm hoping
to make it up to Melbourne (Albatross hit my email) before the 20th
when I have to return."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/43855b424693fa60
Message-ID:
<349880291335311102.31...@news.altopia.com>
Date 17 Aug 2011
Title: MEAT-PLOW LIED AGAIN! (and gets smacked down YET AGAIN!)
"I have several videos and pictures of him riding and what I'm sure
pie the location of his tent."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/19e83b3eb6233fe2
Message-ID: <4uovsb....@news.alt.net>
Date 21 Aug 2011
Title: Emmy takes the day off.
"Well I leave tomorrow at around 7:am. Got some nice video and still
pix of the little shitty pants. There will be another Youtube video
soon"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/4b455459fe093ee3
Message-ID: <4ur8iv....@news.alt.net>
Date 22 Aug 2011
Title: Ahhhh good to be home
"Had a very interesting time in Melbourne."

Hmmm... only one and a half days 'visiting friends in West Palm Beach'
(if he was ever there to begin with), and the rest of his time in
Florida spent real-life stalking. He even extended his stay by two
days, so he could get in more stalking.
--------------------

Evidence that Meat Plow is William Malone Griffith, II:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f6...@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177...@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e9...@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID: <2abe74de52d65b60...@rip.ax.lt>
--------------------

Meat Plow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

--------------------
Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store (his sister's music
store):
(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

Photo of William Malone Griffith, Jr. from uffnet.com:
(Note that it's the same person as in the photo above)
http://www.uffnet.com/library/headlines/images/news1376621745xlb.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

Meat Plow email addresses:
--------------------
http://web.archive.org/web/20010305113423/http://www.k1hk.org/ugb_archive3.html
"Bill N8NCX wgri...@neo.rr.com"

wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

Meat Plow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
1}
https://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/cjis_crim_traf_search?search_flag=case&pass_case_year=2002&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_no=11543
2002-VBD-11543 WILLIAM M GRIFFITH 308 10TH ST NE NORTH CANTON OH
44720

2}
https://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/cjis_civil_search_modified?l_start=1&c_l_radio=c&case_year=2009&case_no=03533
2009-CVF-3533 FIA CARD SERVICES NA vs GRIFFITH II, WILLIAM M
--------------------

Meat Plow quotes:
--------------------
Meat Plow, explaining that his computer has no Master Boot Record
because he runs Mandriva 2010, not Windows:
Message-ID: <4v39g0....@news.alt.net>
"Wouldn't know, it's been months since I've booted a Windoze OS."

Meat Plow describes his high-powered legal team:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05...@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Meat Plow losing his connection to reality, insinuating that he's law
enforcement:
Message-ID: <pan.2011.07...@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I could be LE posing as Meat Plow. It can't be dis-proven."

Meat Plow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he's so repulsive that he can't even PAY
for HAND JOBS from women.

http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Mother:
..----------------------------.
Catherine & Angelo Griffith

4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-494-5785
'----------------------------'

Daughter:
..----------------------------.
Julia M. Griffith

308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023
'----------------------------'

Sister:
..----------------------------------------.
Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling
{ son Todd E. Werling (Ft. Wayne, IN) }
{ son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) }
{ son Keith (Ft. Wayne, IN) }
{ grandson Easton }
{ grandson Zakary }
{ granddaughter Camella }

7704 Bisque Court
Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501
260-489-6086
'----------------------------------------'

Sister:
..----------------------------------------------.
Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera
{ daughter Christina }
{ daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) }
{ daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) }

5225 Echo Valley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-9702
----------------------------------------------
Belden Village Music Store
6787 Wales Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720
beldenvillagemusic.com
330-497-9292
----------------------------------------------
Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera
444 Wales Rd. NE
Massillon, OH 44646-5875
330-833-4291
----------------------------------------------
PO Box 35093
Canton, OH 44735
'----------------------------------------------'

Sister:
..---------------------------------------.
Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell
{ son Richard }
{ son Christopher (North Canton, OH) }
{ son Brandon († 30 May 1996) }
{ daughter Erin }

6794 William Tell Ave NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6546
330-497-7980
330-499-5107
---------------------------------------
PO Box 36473
Canton, OH 44735
'---------------------------------------'

Sister:
..----------------------------------.
Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick
{ son Matthew }

3915 Harvard Ave NW
Canton, OH 44709-1538
330-493-5645
----------------------------------
Re/Max Edge Realty
North Canton / Massillon / Canton
Realtor Christine H. Vick

6929 Portage St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-6535
330-236-5100
888-830-6509 (fax)
330-904-0883 (cell)
www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com
MyOhioHo...@gmail.com
'----------------------------------'

Sister:
..----------------------------.
Angela C. & Mark Warshefski

11 SE 12th St.
Pompano Beach, FL 33060
954-785-4716
----------------------------
4760 Echovalley St. NW
North Canton, OH 44720-7504
330-942-0584
'----------------------------'

Cousin:
..-------------------------.
Eddy Dailey

Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
-------------------------
Bergholz Financial Corp.
dba SuperMart
PO Box 545
524 Garfield St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------------'

Cousin:
..--------------------.
Donna L. Dailey

524 5th St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2416
--------------------
Bergholz Super Mart
861 Washington St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-1018
--------------------
Bergholz, OH EMT
'--------------------'

Cousin:
..-------------------.
Bill & Joyce Leas
{ son Billy }

243 2nd St.
Bergholz, OH 43908
'-------------------'

Niece:
..---------------------------.
Rachel & Adam T. Livengood
{ son Lukas }
{ daughter Lauren }

6342 Palmer Dr. NW
Canton, OH 44718
330-497-7754
'---------------------------'

Izzatchoo, or yer dead daddy?
..--------------------------------.
William M. Griffith

between 3rd and 4th St.
between Monroe and Lincoln Ave.
Bergholz, OH 43908
740-768-2539
'--------------------------------'

What would yer landlord for 308 10th St. NE,
North Canton, OH say if they learned yer secrets?
..----------------------------.
David S. and Joan R. Shaner

2095 Waterbury Dr.
Uniontown OH 44312
330-699-4042
'----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..-----------------------------------------.
Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation
aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration (defunct)
aka Ohio Kentucky Coal Company (defunct)

5112 Portage St. NW
Canton, OH 44720-6856
(330) 494-8810
(330) 497-7980
-----------------------------------------
110 E. Lowry Lane
Lexington, KY 40503
(800) BUY 4 OIL
(800) 289-4645
(859) 223-5656
(859) 223-5946
(859) 276-0699 (fax)
(859) 276-3500
(859) 276-4080
-----------------------------------------
http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com
oils...@insightbb.com
ad...@ohiokentuckyoil.net
'-----------------------------------------'

----------
Oh, but wait, Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration is no longer incorporated in
Ohio:
Daddy Griffith's petrol exploration company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:384125

Nor are any of the other businesses yer daddy started. You let them
all fail:
Daddy Griffith's stables (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377966

Daddy Griffith's motel business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:377965

Daddy Griffith's drilling company (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:347837

Daddy Griffith's metals business (defunct):
http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:3376481605987832::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:552193

And Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation is on its last legs, inundated with
securities fraud lawsuits and EPA lawsuits. It's barred from
soliciting investors in Tennessee due to securities fraud, it's under
investigation in Ohio and Kentucky, it owns no oil assets or wells,
and it no longer does any of its own drilling. It'll be gone soon,
too.

And you've squandered everything Daddy Griffith earned from his
businesses, so yer now poor, adding insult to injury.
----------

You being poor is why you issued the following. You knew you didn't
have ten thousand dollars or so to defend yerself against yet another
lawsuit:

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
==================================================
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e....@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s daughter

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin M. Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister
-----
Questions yet to be answered:
Who is Justin M. Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?

Who is Deborah Ann Griffith?
-----
Who is Sherri Renee Christie, William D. Christie (age 54) and Lillie
L. Christie, and how are they associated with William Malone Griffith,
II?

1345 Bison St. NW
Massillon, OH 44647
330-833-5313 (Sherri)
330-837-4967 (William)

2524 Meadows Ave NW
Apt. 4
Massillon, OH 44647

PO Box 36221
Canton, OH 44735
-----
==================================================
It's time for a digital enema to flush this turd named William Malone
Griffith, II out of the system.

The exit is -.
|
'-----.
.---. .-----. |
| | '---. | |
'-. `-----|-' |
| '---'
'------------->
thataway
.

Jeffrey Angus

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On 9/15/2011 9:02 PM, Jim Yanik wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann<je...@cruzio.com> wrote in
>> Actually, the plastic zip loc bags seem to work well. I haven't
>> dumped those all over the carpet, yet.
>>
>
> you could use an icecube tray,or a muffin/cupcake baking sheet(pan).
> they make them in several sizes. Or Even an old egg carton.

I feel your pain brother. I came up with a novel solution to this.
I like asparagus. The can's around 3" diameter and 8" tall.
I made a bracket to hold 4 of them under the "over the bench"
shelf. As I remove screws, knobs and the occasional long bit
of hardware, I drop them in the can.
IF the "thing being beat on" has to be set aside, ordered parts
etc. then the can gets dumped into a zip lock bag and placed with
the thing I was working on.

The other problem I *used* to have. My eyesight ain't what it used
to be, so I need an eye loupe occasionally to read part numbers or
double check soldered bits. This requires taking off my glasses.
You know where this is headed. I'd lose them in the "pile 'o cruft"
on the bench. I broke down and bought a set of those over the back
of your neck "granny leashes" for the glasses. Now I don't have to
grope around to find them.

Jeff-1.0

Franc Zabkar

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On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:33:57 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa....@ntlworld.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Eventually, I decided that I must have had a senior moment, and
>tidied them into a film pot (I always put screws from items waiting for
>parts, into film pots), ...

I use these as well, but mostly for returning faulty parts to the
customer.

I prefer to replace the screws in their original locations as I'm
dismantling the device. That way I don't have to rely on my memory.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Phil Allison

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"Franc Zabkar"
>
> I use these as well, but mostly for returning faulty parts to the
> customer.

** Why do that ??

Almost no customer ever wants to see them and the tiny few that do have very
weird reasons.

I will not return faulty valves to customers for fear they may try to re-use
or sell them.




..... Phil


JeffM

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Sep 16, 2011, 12:31:40 AM9/16/11
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>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>[...] returning faulty parts to the customer.
>>
Phil Allison wrote:
>Why do that ?[...]
>I will not return faulty valves to customers
>for fear they may try to re-use or sell them.
>
One guy I knew got tired of folks second-guessing him
and checking the old tubes on a drugstore tester
and finding they were "OK".

Military exchange vendor rules said the parts had to be returned
so once he had the gear fixed, he took the bad tubes
and hooked up each filament to a variac and ran it up until *POP*.
Nothing in the rule book on that, apparently.

JeffM

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Sep 16, 2011, 12:41:39 AM9/16/11
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>Here's some of the palatial office workbenches.
><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-02.jpg>
>
Now, there's a man in need of some shelving.

><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-03.jpg>
>
Well, that's a start.
(I assume that shot was *after* the temblor.)

Phil Allison

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"JeffM"
>
> >Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>>[...] returning faulty parts to the customer.
>>>
> Phil Allison wrote:
>>Why do that ?[...]
>>I will not return faulty valves to customers
>>for fear they may try to re-use or sell them.
>>
> One guy I knew got tired of folks second-guessing him
> and checking the old tubes on a drugstore tester
> and finding they were "OK".


** How damned annoying.


> Military exchange vendor rules said the parts had to be returned
> so once he had the gear fixed, he took the bad tubes
> and hooked up each filament to a variac and ran it up until *POP*.
> Nothing in the rule book on that, apparently.

** I once bent and broke the pins on some octal valves a customer insisted
on having back.

You should have seen their face ....

On another occasion, a vendor sold me 50 each MJ15003/4 power transistors
that proved to be fakes ( re-labelled, old stock 2N3055s and MJ2955s). So I
took off the numbering with acetone and sent them back with a request for a
full refund.

Got a hot letter from his lawyer over that one.

Got the refund too, eventually.


.... Phil



Mark Zacharias

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"Jeffrey Angus" <grend...@aim.com> wrote in message
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> On 9/15/2011 9:02 PM, Jim Yanik wrote:
>> Jeff Liebermann<je...@cruzio.com> wrote in

>snip

the "thing being beat on" has to be set aside,

>snip

This term now replaces "unit under test" in my lexicon.

:-)

Mark Z.

Michael A. Terrell

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Sep 16, 2011, 8:36:21 AM9/16/11
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You DO NOT want to see his hole punch! ;-)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Jeffrey Angus

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Sep 16, 2011, 8:53:17 AM9/16/11
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*grins* I'll have my people send your people the proper
forms for licensing.

Jim Yanik

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"Mark Zacharias" <mark_za...@labolgcbs.net> wrote in
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DUT;device under test. easier to pronounce than UUT. Or "TBBO".

Robert Macy

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Sep 16, 2011, 11:17:16 AM9/16/11
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> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

wow! you missed a space above your bench for a wall mounted rack. ;)
you know, the kind that blocks the light

Jeff Liebermann

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On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:41:39 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:


>>Here's some of the palatial office workbenches.
>><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-02.jpg>
>>
>Now, there's a man in need of some shelving.

I have quite a bit of shelving in the office, all of it full of junk.
There are also two closets, full of junk, and 3 more rolling shelf
units, full of junk, and two desks, piled high with junk. Also, a
small table which 3 sewing machines under repair, and another desk,
with the cell phone rebuilding division. Diversification is the key
to ummm.... well, something.

Here's an old 2006 photo. Scroll horizontally:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/slides/office-panorama-2.html>
I'll post a replacement when I have time to make another panorama.

>><http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/office-mess-03.jpg>
>>
>Well, that's a start.
>(I assume that shot was *after* the temblor.)

The two photos were shot yesterday. The quake was in 1989. I was in
a different office during the quake but moved into my present palatial
offices in 1990. Having all the racks on wheels should help with the
next quake if the movement is mostly horizontal.

Jeff Liebermann

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Sep 16, 2011, 1:23:17 PM9/16/11
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:17:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
<robert...@gmail.com> wrote:

>wow! you missed a space above your bench for a wall mounted rack. ;)
>you know, the kind that blocks the light

There's a 4ft fluorescent lamp under the shelf. Much better than an
overhead lamp. There are two more shop lights hanging from the
ceiling, but the shelf light works best. I also have a light on the
articulated magnifying glass and an LED light that I wear on my head.

All the racks are in another room, crammed with equipment, little of
which is operational. Most of the racks are used for storing
equipment, or in one case, for hanging my various jackets and
overalls.



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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Who_me?

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On 15/09/2011 11:33 PM, Arfa Daily wrote:


Ever felt stupid?

Well, I had this girlfriend once...

Jim Yanik

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Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in
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> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:17:16 -0700 (PDT), Robert Macy
><robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>wow! you missed a space above your bench for a wall mounted rack. ;)
>>you know, the kind that blocks the light
>
> There's a 4ft fluorescent lamp under the shelf. Much better than an
> overhead lamp. There are two more shop lights hanging from the
> ceiling, but the shelf light works best. I also have a light on the
> articulated magnifying glass and an LED light that I wear on my head.
>
> All the racks are in another room, crammed with equipment, little of
> which is operational. Most of the racks are used for storing
> equipment, or in one case, for hanging my various jackets and
> overalls.
>
>
>

it's best to mount the main light for the bench over and slightly behind
you,so it lights your work. I've had to design a couple of TEK field
service office layouts,when we moved into new buildings. Having the main
light directly over the bench results in shadows on the vertical parts of
the DUT.
I prefer to not have to wear a headlight.

Ron D.

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Sep 17, 2011, 12:58:11 PM9/17/11
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I didn't even get done reading your post and the first thing that came
to mind was the speaker magnet. 20/20 hindsight is precious.

I think one of the worst things to take apart is a laptop. I used
labeled 2" x 3" baggies for everything.

The last stupid thing I did was when I was working on a lawn mower I
took the flywheel cover off and regapped the coil with an index card
(best thing to use) and I pinched the spark plug wire when
reassembling. The mower started, ran for a while until I moved it and
it stopped. The spark plug wire was pinched pretty bad. I repaired
it with high temperature self-fusing electrical tape, about $40/roll,
but I always have it handy.

JeffM

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Sep 17, 2011, 4:31:04 PM9/17/11
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Ron D. wrote:
>I didn't even get done reading your post
>
That wasn't *my post, dude.

If you're going to post to Usenet (especially
if you're going to use Google's Web-based interface),
learn how to do that properly.

Start by learning how to include some context
from the post to which you are responding.

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