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mynick

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Oct 24, 2010, 12:28:15 AM10/24/10
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want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
measured with Rish 14s in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
ohms
Is this way to much -there is some mistake?
(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaustralia.com.au/rishmulti14s.pdf
but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)

John Fields

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Oct 24, 2010, 12:31:15 AM10/24/10
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"mynick" <angl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.

JF


Jeff Liebermann

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Oct 24, 2010, 1:14:42 AM10/24/10
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
<jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:

>No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
>you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
>power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
>capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>JF

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PeterD

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Oct 24, 2010, 8:37:16 AM10/24/10
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:14:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
><jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
>>No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
>>you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
>>power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
>>capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>>JF
>
>New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
><http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf>
>
>California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
><http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.html>
>
>etc...

Sadly those who do it, rarely care about laws or crime... What's funny
is that the poster is easily traceable. He should have used an
anymonous remailer like the others do. (Then he'd be blocked by our
filters!)

John Fields

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Oct 24, 2010, 9:49:42 AM10/24/10
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:14:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"


><jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
>>No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
>>you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
>>power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
>>capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>>JF
>
>New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
><http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf>
>
>California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
><http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.html>
>
>etc...

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Thanks for that, and now that I have Mr. I'm-not-all-that-bright's ISP
listed on the header he forged _and_ his real-world name and address
it shouldn't be long before he'll be thinking every little sound he
hears is the NYPD knocking on his door. :-)

---
JF

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Proteus

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Oct 24, 2010, 11:53:52 AM10/24/10
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"Fred Abse" <excret...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John Fields"
> wrote:
>
>> No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
>> you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple
>> the
>> power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
>> capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>
>
> What a lousy impersonation.
>
> The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes grammatically.
>
> --
> "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence
> over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
> (Richard Feynman)

YOU ARE MORE FUCK-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!

I AM PROTEUS

Proteus

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Oct 24, 2010, 11:56:53 AM10/24/10
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"PeterD" <pet...@hipson.net> wrote in message
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PETERDUMB,
YOU SKUNKS KEPT FOLLOWING EACH OTHER TO SEWER. SOON THERE WON'T BE ANY
SKUNK LEFT, DON'T YOU KNOW FREAK?

YOU ARENT FOOLING ANYONE STUPID
YOU AND JOHNNY THERE SHOULD GIVE IT A GO
YOU ARE BOTH FREAKY FAGGOTY FOOLS

I AM PROTEUS

PeterD

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Oct 24, 2010, 12:08:28 PM10/24/10
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"John Fields" <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Yup, trace his ass John and let me know your success.

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Paul Keinanen

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Oct 24, 2010, 1:01:53 PM10/24/10
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT), mynick <angl...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>want to shunt a multimeter to extend it's ac ampermeter range so
>measured with Rish 14s

So good so far.

According to the link the voltage drop is 270 mV at 10 A current.
This should not be hard to calculate the internal resistor of the
multimeter based of this information :-)

>in ohm meter position about 41 ohms
>and then measured with Rish 14s its own internal resistance to get 40
>ohms
>Is this way to much -there is some mistake?

Those values do not make any sense for any realistic current meter
(except for some extremely low current applications).

>(http://www.multimetercalibrationsaustralia.com.au/rishmulti14s.pdf
> but cannot find data about it's internal resistance!)

For your own safety, if the 10 Aac current range of the multimeter is
not enough, please consider using a current transformer for measuring
large 50/60 Hz currents.

And remember that with current transformers, the secondary must
_always_ be shorted or connected to a low impedance meter.

PeterD

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Oct 24, 2010, 1:11:35 PM10/24/10
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"Paul Keinanen" <kein...@sci.fi> wrote in message
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Oh my Gosh, you are really Stupid. Stop using internal resistance to expand
Amp meter Dumbass. It's not the way to do it fucker.

Your 0.270a to overcomde the accurancy of 10A? No wonder why you are too
Superdumb.

If you do the right thing, you can turn a 10A meter into 100A meter with
0.02% error.

Why should I tell you Superpower? You should know it if you are really what
you believe you are. Ok numbass?


Jamie

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Oct 24, 2010, 2:01:56 PM10/24/10
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Paul Keinanen wrote:

Oh why did you have to tell him the last part! :)


Jeff Liebermann

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Oct 24, 2010, 2:02:21 PM10/24/10
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
<jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:

He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
17 years old.

$1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
<http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html>

Jamie

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Oct 24, 2010, 2:19:23 PM10/24/10
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
> <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
> He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
> resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
> modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
> Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
> included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
> he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
> that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
> 17 years old.
>
> $1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
> <http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html>
>

In CA, you can sue for anything...

Actually, I can get sued for what I just said! Because its definition
of character for CA :)


Paul Keinanen

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Oct 24, 2010, 3:09:59 PM10/24/10
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You really learn a lot after serious mistakes,
however, what is the point of it, if you are killed by the first
mistake ?

David Sanders

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Oct 24, 2010, 3:27:29 PM10/24/10
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:02:21 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:49:42 -0500, John Fields
> <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
> He's in California. He's posting from 66.53.26.169 which RDNS
> resolves to 66-53-26-169.lvgs.mdsg-pacwest.com, which is the dialup
> modem pool in Stockton, Calif. His message was posted through
> Toast.net, which is probably his ISP. There's a valid X-Trace header
> included. This is too easy. What I find personally amusing is that
> he's using Outlook Express for reading Usenet news, which suggests
> that he's clueless. Judging by the writing style, I would guess about
> 17 years old.
>
> $1000 fine and you can sue for damages to your reputation.
> <http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_1401-1450/sb_1411_bill_20100927_chaptered.html>

Who cares? My dick needs to be jacked.
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John Fields

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Oct 24, 2010, 4:09:53 PM10/24/10
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:00:48 -0700, Fred Abse
<excret...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John Fields"
>wrote:
>

>> No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
>> you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
>> power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
>> capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>
>

>What a lousy impersonation.
>
>The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes grammatically.

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Thank you, sir! :-)


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JF

John Fields

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Oct 24, 2010, 4:10:55 PM10/24/10
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:53:52 -0700, "Proteus" <prote...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>YOU ARE MORE FUCK-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!
>
>I AM PROTEUS

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You are shit.


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JF

John Fields

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Oct 24, 2010, 4:12:10 PM10/24/10
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:56:53 -0700, "Proteus" <prote...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>PETERDUMB,
>YOU SKUNKS KEPT FOLLOWING EACH OTHER TO SEWER. SOON THERE WON'T BE ANY
>SKUNK LEFT, DON'T YOU KNOW FREAK?
>
>YOU ARENT FOOLING ANYONE STUPID
>YOU AND JOHNNY THERE SHOULD GIVE IT A GO
>YOU ARE BOTH FREAKY FAGGOTY FOOLS
>
>I AM PROTEUS

---

David Nebenzahl

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Oct 24, 2010, 5:40:48 PM10/24/10
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On 10/24/2010 9:37 AM Fred Abse spake thus:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:53:52 -0700, Proteus wrote:
>
>> "Fred Abse" <excret...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2010.10.24....@invalid.invalid...
>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, someone calling himself "John
>>> Fields" wrote:
>>>
>>>> No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher
>>>> range. Why did you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't
>>>> even know how to multiple the power of your electronic? You
>>>> see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very capable to multiple
>>>> current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>>>
>>> What a lousy impersonation.
>>>
>>> The John Fields that we all know (and love?) writes
>>> grammatically.
>>

>> YOU ARE MORE FUCK-UP ASSHOLE FREAK!
>>
>> I AM PROTEUS
>

> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=60.2631,-1.407736&spn=0.1,0.1&t=m&q=60.2631,-1.407736
>
> Plonk!

So I'm just a little curious. At the risk of opening a can of worms, I ask:

1. How did you get this geographic location from that posting?
2. Who, exactly, is "Proteus"?

Like I said, just curious, not dying to know ...


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Robert Baer

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Oct 24, 2010, 6:05:26 PM10/24/10
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Well, a good way to destroy a milliammeter movement is to use an
ohmmeter to measure its resistance (POOF!).
Take an adjustable low voltage supply in series with a resistor and
tweak for full scale reading.
Then connect an adjustable resistor across the meter and adjust for
half scale reading.
Remove that resistor and measure it.
I leave the proof to the student.

Robert Baer

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Oct 24, 2010, 6:13:50 PM10/24/10
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Now that i told you how to determine (NOT directly measure) the
resistance of a meter, FORGET that happy horsemanure.
Use that low voltage adjustable supply and resistor in series;adjust
to get full scale reading.
Now...hold your breath...measure the VOLTAGE across the meter.
THAT is what you want your meter shunt to drop, for full scale reading.
So it does not matter if the meter was 5uA, 100uA or 1mA; treat it as
if it was a voltmeter, measuring the voltage drop across the ten amp
shunt (or whatever you wanted).
So, you asked the wrong question (internal resistance).

Robert Baer

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Oct 24, 2010, 6:14:57 PM10/24/10
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 21:31:15 -0700, "John Fields"
> <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>
>> No Stupid, that's not the way to ampmeter range to higher range. Why did
>> you call yourself Superpower Punk? You don't even know how to multiple the
>> power of your electronic? You see, I am a superdumb-ass and I am very
>> capable to multiple current as well as AmpMeter by 10X.
>> JF
>
> New York Makes Internet Impersonation a Crime
> <http://www.hunton.com/files/tbl_s10News/FileUpload44/15889/new_york_internet_impersonation_privacy_alert.pdf>
>
> California Bans Malicious Online Impersonation
> <http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206469/california_bans_malicious_online_impersonation.html>
>
> etc...
>
And....So....Your point?

Robert Baer

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Oct 24, 2010, 6:16:05 PM10/24/10
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Who is that stupid idiot, anyway?

John Fields

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Oct 24, 2010, 11:37:29 PM10/24/10
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"Robert Baer" <rober...@localnet.com> wrote in message
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Flush!

JF

John Fields

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"Jeff Liebermann" <je...@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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Flush!

JF


John Fields

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"David Sanders" <sande...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Flush!

JF

John Fields

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Flush!

JF

John Fields

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"John Fields" <jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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I am sub-shit.

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JF

John Fields

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"Robert Baer" <rober...@localnet.com> wrote in message
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He wanted to say I am a piece of shit

I am actually a sub-shit.

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JF

David Nebenzahl

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Oct 25, 2010, 12:40:56 AM10/25/10
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On 10/24/2010 8:39 PM John Fields spake thus:

> "David Nebenzahl" <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> news:4cc4a7a2$0$2433$8226...@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>

>> So I'm just a little curious. At the risk of opening a can of
>> worms, I ask:
>>
>> 1. How did you get this geographic location from that posting? 2.
>> Who, exactly, is "Proteus"?
>>
>> Like I said, just curious, not dying to know ...
>

> Flush!

My full house beats your flush.

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