On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 04:47:15 -0000 (UTC), Arlen _G_ Holder wrote:
>> Look at "Panel, 6-32 mounting type"
>
> You sir, are a veritable genius!
> Thank you for the purposefully helpful advice which you could only have
> found by extensive searches since nobody else knew of that but you!
>
> More to come!
UPDATE:
o SUGGESTION: SAVE THIS POST (IT CONTAINS VALUABLE SOURCES!)
This thread contains a TESTED WORKING PROCESS for hard-to-find parts
o At the best price & stock possible, in quantities of 1, for homeowners
Being a good Usenet citizen, not only do I put energy into providing tons
of detail within the thread, but I always try to summarize the solution, so
that others coming here, in the foreseeable future, benefit from our
efforts), where this summary will reside in the permanent web-searchable
archives:
This summary will reside in these permanent web-searchable archives:
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http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair>
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http://tinyurl.com/sci-electronics-repair>
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http://tinyurl.com/alt-engineering-electrical
And in these permanent web searchable Usenet archives:
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http://alt.home.repair.narkive.com>
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http://sci.electronics.repair.narkive.com>
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http://alt.engineering.electrical.narkive.com>
The goal was to source "things like" the following part:
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https://i.postimg.cc/ryNkQQvY/breaker03.jpg>
o #5, Generac Part Number #74969, 35 Amp Circuit Breaker
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https://i.postimg.cc/qq326cBh/Generac-Control-Panel-9067-9-16345-Page-19.jpg>
Home box stores were an instant fail, where those of you in the know would
have known that before I even attempted Lowes, Ace, Home Depot, etc.
Also, the local electrical supply shops (roughly about dozen I called in
the Silicon Valley), were (rather shockingly) completely clueless how to
obtain the part in stock (that was, perhaps, my biggest shock).
o AlexanderElec:
831-457-3911 (left message)
o BayPower:
408-998-2980 (they don't stock, and can't order)
o CupertinoElec:
408-808-8000 (don't deal with individuals)
o Eckerman:
831-252-0987 (doesn't have any resource I don't have)
o EdgesElec:
408-293-5818 (don't stock, don't order)
o NicoElec:
408-446-4141 (left message)
o Pfeiffer:
408-436-8523 (they don't do residential)
o SprigElec:
408-298-3134 (transferred to sales, left message)
Generac doesn't normally recommend suppliers, but after three calls, I
found one second-level tech who privately suggested these suppliers:
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http://onlinecomponents.com> $ 92.45 (stock situation unknown)
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http://jackssmallengines.com> $137.07 (stock situation unknown)
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http://ordertree.com $233.45> (stock situation unknown)
Searching on the net by Generac part number isn't as useful as searching by
the original part number, which, luckily, was still (barely) visible:
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https://i.postimg.cc/vmTTdpdB/breaker02.jpg>
AA2-B0-24-635-5D1-C
1. A -> Series A, 277VAC, 80VDC, 10,000 cycles
2. A -> one handle per pole
3. 2 -> two poles
4. B -> series trip current
5. 0 -> w/o aux
6. 24 -> medium delay (04), 50/60Hz
7. 635 -> 35 amp, trip at 43 amp
8. 5 -> bolt-on rear connections 10-32 bolts (very important)
9. D -> labeling is ON/OFF in white, everything else black
10. 1 -> 6-32 x 0.195 inches
11. C -> UL approved, CSA certified
o Amazon
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https://www.amazon.com/Carling-Technologies-AA2-B0-24-635-5D1-C-Circuit-Breaker/dp/B00FV1ZJ7M>
o FusesUnlimited
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https://www.fusesunlimited.com/circuit-protection-detail/carling/aa2-b0-24-635-5d1-c>
o Walmart
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Carling-Technologies-AA2-B0-24-635-5D1-C-Circuit-Breaker/213199082>
Carling, themselves part of a huge conglomerate, had a lost of a score or
so of local "recommended distributors", again, only a very few of which had
the part in stock who would sell in quantities of 1, but at a high price -
but it turns out there's a better way (see trick later in this post) to
bypass that score of parts distributor phone calls.
Carling AA2-B0-24-635-5D1-C 35-amp circuit breaker
o Carling:
https://www.carlingtech.com/findarep?location=243
o Bridge:
408-335-6700 (you need to pick a person & leave a msg)
o Avnet:
408-435-3500 (4-5 weeks lead time, $86.42)
o Bates:
408-400-9586 (the number has been disconnected)
o Digikey:
800-344-4539 (global sales only, min quantity is 20 parts)
o Master:
408-970-8090 (not in stock locally, two weeks, $92.45)
o Mouser:
817-804-3888 (not in stock, can send quote)
o Newark:
800-463-9275 (not in stock, minimum order is 2)
o Sager:
408-544-9500 (not in stock locally, can be ordered, $71.48)
o TTI:
510-668-0830 (not in stock, can only order in bulk)
Thanks to the purposefully helpful suggestion by gfretwell, I called
Grainger who put me in touch with technical support who told me that they
definitely do not carry and cannot purchase the "right" circuit breaker,
but that the 40-amp circuit breaker might work in a pinch.
The critical items, of course, are the type of rear connection, which is
what's different in the two Grainger alternatives, but which isn't obvious
in the Grainger photos because the photos don't show the all important rear
of the circuit breaker (spade type tend to vibrate off in generator
applications, I'm told, and anyway, it's an unnecessary retrofit).
The 40-amp Carling breaker that Grainger does carry, as gfretwell astutely
noted though, is pretty damn close (far better than the SquareD Q0B235,
which was also a purposefully helpful suggestion that was posed prior).
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https://www.grainger.com/category/electrical/power-management-circuit-protection-and-distribution/distribution-circuit-breakers-and-temporary-power-solutions/circuit-breakers/panel-mount-circuit-breakers>
Circuit Breaker, Magnetic Circuit Breaker Type, Toggle Switch Type, Number of Poles: 2
Grainger # 10C608 Mfr. Model # BA2-B0-34-640-521-C Catalog Page # 201 UNSPSC # 39121601
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https://www.grainger.com/product/CARLING-TECHNOLOGIES-Circuit-Breaker-10C608>
Circuit Breaker, Magnetic Circuit Breaker Type, Toggle Switch Type, Number of Poles: 2
Grainger # 3XC74 Mfr. Model # CA2-BO-34-640-111-C Catalog Page # 201 UNSPSC # 39121602
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https://www.grainger.com/product/CARLING-TECHNOLOGIES-Circuit-Breaker-3XC74>
I had never called Grainger before (always assuming they're the most
expensive), but, at $40 anyway, they are actually the cheapest, by far, but
they too didn't have the right part.
In the end, the BEST solution (if we don't go with the alternatives),
is this URL which was kindly supplied to be by one of the Carling
distributors (who said it's what _he uses_ to source _his_ parts!):
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http://eciaauthorized.com>
*That's a neat trick!*
o *My advice is to _SAVE THAT URL_*!
(That one URL is better than almost everything attempted to date to obtain
the part in stock at the best price possible today.)
BTW, Bob Engelhardt, who purposefully helpfully and very kindly suggested
the SquareD Q0B235 was on to something when he noted that the original part
clearly failed its 10,000 cycle promise, as that breaker couldn't possibly
have had more than a few score cycles in its short lifetime, given that
it's not a part you generally touch unless you're working on the generator
and want to disconnect it from the house (where you're more likely to just
pull the 15-amp generator fuse on the front panel to prevent a start):
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https://i.postimg.cc/63Z0x60t/generac-circuit-breaker-panel.jpg>
That 15-amp fuse is item #10 in this Generac exploded diagram):
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The part is on order, thanks to purposefully helpful folks on this
repair-related group.
--
Usenet is a great resource for homeowners with electrical problems to fix!
The adult audience will appreciate that I never responded to the incessant
childish trolling by the likes of Snit (aka Fox's Mercantile) and Peter
Wieck (aka
pj...@aol.com) both of whom (and common trolls like them)
are on the permanent record (for their grandchildren, perhaps to read) as
only posting to satisfy their own childish amusement needs, sadly.