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tabb...@gmail.com
Jan 16, 2019, 3:26:34 PM1/16/19
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Dyson DC50, a lightweight ok but nothing spectacular machine except the air passages are too narrow.
Suction of dirt from the floor head is very poor. Hoses checked clear, changeover mechanism works correctly, head is unblocked, brush roll works fine, cyclone has been washed out, top filter washed out & output filter removed for now until it works right, then I can put it back but not sure I will.
So I tried to disassemble the cyclone without luck. Removed outer bin. Released all the tabs on the mesh unit that surrounds the central core, but one part of it would not budge out no matter what. I can't see why, and there seems no other route to get into the cyclone assembly. Any ideas? I'm a bit fed up with it.
NT
Suction of dirt from the floor head is very poor. Hoses checked clear, changeover mechanism works correctly, head is unblocked, brush roll works fine, cyclone has been washed out, top filter washed out & output filter removed for now until it works right, then I can put it back but not sure I will.
So I tried to disassemble the cyclone without luck. Removed outer bin. Released all the tabs on the mesh unit that surrounds the central core, but one part of it would not budge out no matter what. I can't see why, and there seems no other route to get into the cyclone assembly. Any ideas? I'm a bit fed up with it.
NT
Jeff Layman
Jan 16, 2019, 5:08:11 PM1/16/19
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seemed to be more Dysons than other makes when I dropped off some
electronic junk at my local tip last week). If there is one, ask the tip
operators if you can have one of the cyclones to (a) swap with your one
or (b) try to take apart. If the cyclones have no scrap value, there
shouldn't be a reason why they won't let you take it.
--
Jeff
bruce2...@gmail.com
Jan 16, 2019, 10:40:52 PM1/16/19
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peterw...@gmail.com
Jan 17, 2019, 7:12:05 AM1/17/19
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On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 10:40:52 PM UTC-5, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
> I once heard that thread and other bits of fabric can get caught up in the moving parts and melt if synthetic. I wonder what gets that out without a disassembly?
Disassembly. But with a Dyson, that is not very difficult. In the 12 years we have had our unit, I have torn it down twice for general cleaning. takes about an hour from start-to-finish, and does make a difference.
> I once heard that thread and other bits of fabric can get caught up in the moving parts and melt if synthetic. I wonder what gets that out without a disassembly?
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
tabb...@gmail.com
Jan 17, 2019, 4:17:34 PM1/17/19
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On Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:08:11 UTC, Jeff Layman wrote:
Sadly getting stuff from dumps has been impossible for many years here.
NT
NT
Jeff Layman
Jan 18, 2019, 3:21:15 AM1/18/19
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<https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06bhwvy>
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Jeff
Percival P. Cassidy
Jan 18, 2019, 12:43:54 PM1/18/19
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On 1/16/19 5:08 PM, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> Dyson DC50, a lightweight ok but nothing spectacular machine except
>> the air passages are too narrow.
>>
>> Suction of dirt from the floor head is very poor. Hoses checked clear,
>> changeover mechanism works correctly, head is unblocked, brush roll
>> works fine, cyclone has been washed out, top filter washed out &
>> output filter removed for now until it works right, then I can put it
>> back but not sure I will.
>>
>> So I tried to disassemble the cyclone without luck. Removed outer bin.
>> Released all the tabs on the mesh unit that surrounds the central
>> core, but one part of it would not budge out no matter what. I can't
>> see why, and there seems no other route to get into the cyclone
>> assembly. Any ideas? I'm a bit fed up with it.
>
> Go to your local tip(s) and see if there is another DC50 there (there
> seemed to be more Dysons than other makes when I dropped off some
> electronic junk at my local tip last week).
A family member living an a wealthy American suburb says he has picked
>> Dyson DC50, a lightweight ok but nothing spectacular machine except
>> the air passages are too narrow.
>>
>> Suction of dirt from the floor head is very poor. Hoses checked clear,
>> changeover mechanism works correctly, head is unblocked, brush roll
>> works fine, cyclone has been washed out, top filter washed out &
>> output filter removed for now until it works right, then I can put it
>> back but not sure I will.
>>
>> So I tried to disassemble the cyclone without luck. Removed outer bin.
>> Released all the tabs on the mesh unit that surrounds the central
>> core, but one part of it would not budge out no matter what. I can't
>> see why, and there seems no other route to get into the cyclone
>> assembly. Any ideas? I'm a bit fed up with it.
>
> Go to your local tip(s) and see if there is another DC50 there (there
> seemed to be more Dysons than other makes when I dropped off some
> electronic junk at my local tip last week).
up numerous Dysons left by the curb for the trash or recycling
collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
needed cleaning.
> If there is one, ask the tip
> operators if you can have one of the cyclones to (a) swap with your one
> or (b) try to take apart. If the cyclones have no scrap value, there
> shouldn't be a reason why they won't let you take it.
thekma...@gmail.com
Jan 18, 2019, 2:11:58 PM1/18/19
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Percival P. Cassidy wrote: "A family member living an a wealthy American suburb says he has picked
vaccum cleaners in one decade: They simply refuse to
consider emptying the rubbish out and/or cleaning the damn
filers! So easy!
up numerous Dysons left by the curb for the trash or recycling
collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
needed cleaning. "
That's the number one reason people go through so many
collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
needed cleaning. "
vaccum cleaners in one decade: They simply refuse to
consider emptying the rubbish out and/or cleaning the damn
filers! So easy!
bruce2...@gmail.com
Jan 18, 2019, 2:57:17 PM1/18/19
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Cursitor Doom
Jan 18, 2019, 3:57:53 PM1/18/19
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:40:18 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> A family member living an a wealthy American suburb says he has picked
> up numerous Dysons left by the curb for the trash or recycling
> collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
> needed cleaning.
It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> A family member living an a wealthy American suburb says he has picked
> up numerous Dysons left by the curb for the trash or recycling
> collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
> needed cleaning.
the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
too many people just go and buy another one.
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Martin Gregorie
Jan 18, 2019, 4:30:20 PM1/18/19
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:57:50 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just
> for the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these
> days; too many people just go and buy another one.
>
These days too many people have no experience of building anything -
> It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just
> for the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these
> days; too many people just go and buy another one.
>
didn't have Meccano/Erector sets, let alone built model aircraft or
crystal sets, so have no clue about making or fixing things.
Dyson relevance: I have an original Dyson 05 cylinder model. After a year
or three the surprisingly weak green clip at the bottom of the wand
broke. A pivot came off one side of the catch. Being a long-time model
builder and flyer, I naturally stuck a 3mm drill through the pivots,
fitted a suitable length of 3mm OD brass tube and added epoxy to keep it
in place. 25-30 years later the Dyson is still working well, which is
more than I could say about the couple of Mr. Henry's it replaced.
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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
Percival P. Cassidy
Jan 18, 2019, 4:57:11 PM1/18/19
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On 1/18/19 3:57 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> A family member living an a wealthy American suburb says he has picked
>> up numerous Dysons left by the curb for the trash or recycling
>> collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
>> needed cleaning.
>
> It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
> too many people just go and buy another one.
Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
>> A family member living an a wealthy American suburb says he has picked
>> up numerous Dysons left by the curb for the trash or recycling
>> collectors -- and all that was wrong with them was that the filter
>> needed cleaning.
>
> It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
> too many people just go and buy another one.
today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
happened to notice it while looking for something else.
Perce
tabb...@gmail.com
Jan 18, 2019, 6:13:44 PM1/18/19
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NT
Cursitor Doom
Jan 18, 2019, 7:34:32 PM1/18/19
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:53:35 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> happened to notice it while looking for something else.
I'll wager the actual component(s) that failed within that module could
> Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> happened to notice it while looking for something else.
have been replaced for pennies, though. $358 is outrageous for probably
in total no more than 10 bucks worth of bits.
John-Del
Jan 18, 2019, 10:20:35 PM1/18/19
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 7:34:32 PM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:53:35 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>
> > Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> > today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> > for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> > appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> > happened to notice it while looking for something else.
>
> I'll wager the actual component(s) that failed within that module could
> have been replaced for pennies, though. $358 is outrageous for probably
> in total no more than 10 bucks worth of bits.
>
>
Believe it or not, a lot of those appliance modules have high ESR caps causing issues, and they are usually smaller value caps that don't present themselves with a vented top or bottom. But a lot of them have bad processors or support circuitry, and there's no schematic for the board or datasheets available for most ICs that are house numbered, so they can be problematic to fix.
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 16:53:35 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>
> > Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> > today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> > for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> > appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> > happened to notice it while looking for something else.
>
> I'll wager the actual component(s) that failed within that module could
> have been replaced for pennies, though. $358 is outrageous for probably
> in total no more than 10 bucks worth of bits.
>
>
But yeah, most of those boards are worth $150 tops.
thekma...@gmail.com
Jan 18, 2019, 10:47:15 PM1/18/19
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Martin Gregorie:
I watch almost as much TV as the average person,
and see print ads in magazines and newspapers, but
honestly I became aware of Dyson products only less
than ten years ago. I had no idea Dyson was that
old!
I watch almost as much TV as the average person,
and see print ads in magazines and newspapers, but
honestly I became aware of Dyson products only less
than ten years ago. I had no idea Dyson was that
old!
Ralph Mowery
Jan 18, 2019, 11:13:03 PM1/18/19
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In article <gaf0dk...@mid.individual.net>, Nob...@NotMyISP.net
says...
Many younger people do not know how to repair things. All they do is
play video games and text each other. When I grew up there were many
'toys' that taught things. Crystal radios, erector sets, chemical sets
that could blow up things.
The second is often replacement parts cost way too much.
If taken to a repair place by the time the parts are bought and the cost
of the time of the repairman is added, you can often get a new and
improved modle.
Just like some warrenties, they want about 1/4 the cost of a new item
that is less than $ 100.
says...
>
> > It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> > the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
> > too many people just go and buy another one.
>
> Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> happened to notice it while looking for something else.
>
>
>
There seems to be 2 problems now.
> > It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> > the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
> > too many people just go and buy another one.
>
> Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> happened to notice it while looking for something else.
>
>
>
Many younger people do not know how to repair things. All they do is
play video games and text each other. When I grew up there were many
'toys' that taught things. Crystal radios, erector sets, chemical sets
that could blow up things.
The second is often replacement parts cost way too much.
If taken to a repair place by the time the parts are bought and the cost
of the time of the repairman is added, you can often get a new and
improved modle.
Just like some warrenties, they want about 1/4 the cost of a new item
that is less than $ 100.
Martin Gregorie
Jan 19, 2019, 7:09:52 AM1/19/19
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system shows I bought my DC05 Dyson in 2001 and did that repair in 2013.
tabb...@gmail.com
Jan 19, 2019, 8:59:33 AM1/19/19
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NT
bruce2...@gmail.com
Jan 21, 2019, 9:43:32 AM1/21/19
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:13:03 PM UTC-5, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> In article <gaf0dk...@mid.individual.net>, Nob...@NotMyISP.net
> says...
> >
> > > It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> > > the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
> > > too many people just go and buy another one.
> >
> > Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> > today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> > for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> > appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> > happened to notice it while looking for something else.
> >
> >
> >
>
> There seems to be 2 problems now.
Maybe more.
> In article <gaf0dk...@mid.individual.net>, Nob...@NotMyISP.net
> says...
> >
> > > It's amazing the amount of perfectly good stuff that gets junked just for
> > > the want of a part costing a few pennies. That's the thing these days;
> > > too many people just go and buy another one.
> >
> > Undoubtedly true, but not all parts do cost just a few pennies. E.g.,
> > today I saw that one little electronic module for our Maytag dryer sells
> > for $358 -- and I'm not sure we paid much more than $400 for the whole
> > appliance about three years ago. I'm glad I don't need one: I just
> > happened to notice it while looking for something else.
> >
> >
> >
>
> There seems to be 2 problems now.
> Many younger people do not know how to repair things. All they do is
> play video games and text each other.
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