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Squirrel -cage motor noisy.

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Peter Jason

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Jan 23, 2019, 9:14:43 PM1/23/19
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4-pole 3Ph squirrel -cage motor noisy.

A loud buzzing noise has developed over the past
12 months. The motor is not overheating, nor are
the bearings.

Is this serious?
Peter

N_Cook

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Jan 24, 2019, 3:34:14 AM1/24/19
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Loose wires within a coil? douse with kopal varnish?

Mike Coon

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Jan 24, 2019, 4:24:04 AM1/24/19
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In article <sn7i4e1brhin5meu1...@4ax.com>, p...@jostle.com
says...
Squirrel wants out? (Well someone had to say it...)

Mike.

peterw...@gmail.com

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Jan 24, 2019, 7:16:12 AM1/24/19
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Some of these motors are bolted together. Tighten the bolts if you can reach them. Then, as noted, the coils can work loose from the laminations. Varnish, or thin Super Glue might work for that.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

Terry Schwartz

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Jan 24, 2019, 5:54:15 PM1/24/19
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The bearings may not be hot but they can still get noisy.

Look165

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Jan 25, 2019, 3:57:36 AM1/25/19
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Maybe some WD40 would help.

N_Cook

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Jan 25, 2019, 7:31:09 AM1/25/19
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On 24/01/2019 02:14, Peter Jason wrote:
Is it being powered by clean sine 50/60 Hz or some sort of dirty
chopped/synthesised 3 phase via a converter?

Peter Jason

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Jan 25, 2019, 6:58:24 PM1/25/19
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I tried pouring oil down its nose, but the noise
never changes. :-)))

Peter Jason

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Jan 25, 2019, 7:01:06 PM1/25/19
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We have no choppers. And other squirrel motors on
the same power system are quiet as ever.

Adrian Tuddenham

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Jan 26, 2019, 10:04:52 AM1/26/19
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If it has a phase-shift capacitor, that has probably changed value and
is on the way to failing. Substitute another one of as near the right
value as possible and see if that stops or alters the noise. (Make sure
the capacitor is discharged each time before touching it.)


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Adrian Tuddenham

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Jan 27, 2019, 4:47:52 AM1/27/19
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Adrian Tuddenham <adr...@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Peter Jason <p...@jostle.com> wrote:
>
> > 4-pole 3Ph squirrel -cage motor noisy.
> >
> > A loud buzzing noise has developed over the past
> > 12 months. The motor is not overheating, nor are
> > the bearings.
> >
> > Is this serious?
>
> If it has a phase-shift capacitor, that has probably changed value ...

My apologies, I didn't spot that you had said it was 3Ph.

It could be one phase disconnected, although that probably would make
more of a hum than a buzz. Laminations could be working loose in the
rotor or the windings working loose in the stator; the former will be
more likely to change on load or pulsate at slip frequency.
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