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John-Del
Nov 18, 2017, 7:47:36 AM11/18/17
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A few years ago I changed all the exterior light fixtures around my house to motion/light cell type fixtures, and they worked well for several years. Last year they became a bit numb. I replaced the photocells that had water damage, resealed them and they worked another year, but are crapping out again or are killing bulbs in two weeks (guessing they're running at low voltage?).
Reviews on these fixtures are hit or miss at best (more misses than hits) and I don't want to go through the expense of changing 10 fixtures in exchange for questionable service life or erratic performance.
So what I'd like to do is hard wire the fixtures and replace the 4 wall switches that control the 10 outdoor fixtures to an automated type and have a single light sensor control them at one shot. I don't need the motion aspect; I'd rather have them come on at dusk and stay on till morning.
I used to use X10s and had pretty good luck with them, but that was many years ago. Does anyone know of a reliable system or pieces I can put together that will get me what I want?
Reviews on these fixtures are hit or miss at best (more misses than hits) and I don't want to go through the expense of changing 10 fixtures in exchange for questionable service life or erratic performance.
So what I'd like to do is hard wire the fixtures and replace the 4 wall switches that control the 10 outdoor fixtures to an automated type and have a single light sensor control them at one shot. I don't need the motion aspect; I'd rather have them come on at dusk and stay on till morning.
I used to use X10s and had pretty good luck with them, but that was many years ago. Does anyone know of a reliable system or pieces I can put together that will get me what I want?
pf...@aol.com
Nov 18, 2017, 8:42:06 AM11/18/17
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A few things:
a) From a purely practical view, all outside lights do is give burglars light to see by. They give zero/nil/no/none additional security or safety.
b) They contribute to light pollution.
c) They burn power needlessly.
If *you* are looking for outside lights to see by, put them on a switch. If you want lights that allow you to leave the house and then go off, put them on a timer switch. Some are sophisticated enough that you can set a 'come-back' time so it will also light your way in.
But, to get directly to your question, Intermatic makes any number of astronomical time clocks with daily, weekly or monthly (the latter is actually 365/366 capable) that you set your dawn, dusk and date and it does the rest automagically. No need for a light sensor to add complexity.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
a) From a purely practical view, all outside lights do is give burglars light to see by. They give zero/nil/no/none additional security or safety.
b) They contribute to light pollution.
c) They burn power needlessly.
If *you* are looking for outside lights to see by, put them on a switch. If you want lights that allow you to leave the house and then go off, put them on a timer switch. Some are sophisticated enough that you can set a 'come-back' time so it will also light your way in.
But, to get directly to your question, Intermatic makes any number of astronomical time clocks with daily, weekly or monthly (the latter is actually 365/366 capable) that you set your dawn, dusk and date and it does the rest automagically. No need for a light sensor to add complexity.
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
amdx
Nov 18, 2017, 8:42:34 AM11/18/17
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radio, it is an outdoor light with IR sensor AND slow turn on to extend
bulb life.
So I'm either on a search to quiet what I have or buy lights that
don't produce RFI.
Mikek
tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 18, 2017, 8:56:43 AM11/18/17
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And outdoor lighting enables burglars to be seen.
NT
N_Cook
Nov 18, 2017, 9:17:14 AM11/18/17
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to an outside bog in the middle of the night, these things are excellent
http://www.redlinesecurity.co.uk/simulated-tv
next to no power used, just direct the very convincing (mixture of
random and quasi-static) dancing/flickering/colour-changing light output
towards , but not at, a curtained window.
In a real lifetime-burglar test , it came out tops of deterrance kit.
tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 18, 2017, 9:26:04 AM11/18/17
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On Saturday, 18 November 2017 14:17:14 UTC, N_Cook wrote:
> If its the security aspect of lighting, rather than likes of going going
> to an outside bog in the middle of the night, these things are excellent
> http://www.redlinesecurity.co.uk/simulated-tv
> next to no power used, just direct the very convincing (mixture of
> random and quasi-static) dancing/flickering/colour-changing light output
> towards , but not at, a curtained window.
> In a real lifetime-burglar test , it came out tops of deterrance kit.
£18:35. Real TV: free.
> If its the security aspect of lighting, rather than likes of going going
> to an outside bog in the middle of the night, these things are excellent
> http://www.redlinesecurity.co.uk/simulated-tv
> next to no power used, just direct the very convincing (mixture of
> random and quasi-static) dancing/flickering/colour-changing light output
> towards , but not at, a curtained window.
> In a real lifetime-burglar test , it came out tops of deterrance kit.
Bill Gill
Nov 18, 2017, 9:28:37 AM11/18/17
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On 11/18/2017 6:47 AM, John-Del wrote:
In that article the author said that motion detection lighting is
better security. The idea is that if the light is on all the time
a burglar can see where the shadows are and stick to them. If
the light doesn't come on until it senses the burglars movement
they get caught in the light when it comes on.
Bill
N_Cook
Nov 18, 2017, 9:47:33 AM11/18/17
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for 1 year. These LED gizmos something like 0.005 KW consumption.
I suppose these days much less likelihood of a TV catching fire , that
seems to be the province of fridges and freezers these days.
pf...@aol.com
Nov 18, 2017, 10:56:24 AM11/18/17
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On Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 8:56:43 AM UTC-5, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> And outdoor lighting enables burglars to be seen.
Do you have light(s) in your back yard? Burglars seldom go in the front door.
>
> And outdoor lighting enables burglars to be seen.
Yep. Those few burglars that still operate at night around here tend to wear bright uniforms with reflective stripes and drive panel vans with magnetic signs of one sort of emergency response group or another.
The best deterrent of all is a nosy neighbor - and our neighborhood is full of those. Next best is a loud dog. Similarly, including two of our own.
bruce2...@gmail.com
Nov 18, 2017, 11:05:23 AM11/18/17
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hide quoted text -
Google this: 'solar outdoor lighting'
Don't install yourself because you could nullify your property's insurance. Get an approved installer to install the lighting for you.
On 18/11/2017 12:47, John-Del wrote:
Don't install yourself because you could nullify your property's insurance. Get an approved installer to install the lighting for you.
Foxs Mercantile
Nov 18, 2017, 12:26:54 PM11/18/17
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On 11/18/2017 6:47 AM, John-Del wrote:
> So what I'd like to do is hard wire the fixtures
> and replace the 4 wall switches that control the 10
> outdoor fixtures to an automated type and have a
> single light sensor control them at one shot.
Use one of these to control a 120 VAC relay with
> and replace the 4 wall switches that control the 10
> outdoor fixtures to an automated type and have a
> single light sensor control them at one shot.
contacts heavy enough to handle your entire lighting
load.
<https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/3334/ELEC-K4121C.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0b_QBRCeARIsAFntQ9qPrGVVT9TidkNMuzr-ZQQBmzU7KFt1eIdLSzl8XnwHg3Fsa6Am2m8aAnk_EALw_wcB>
--
Jeff-1.0
wa6fwi
http://www.foxsmercantile.com
tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 18, 2017, 12:44:50 PM11/18/17
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On Saturday, 18 November 2017 15:56:24 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> Burglars seldom go in the front door.
they've tried all the doors & some windows here. None seem keen to return though.
> Yep. Those few burglars that still operate at night around here tend to wear bright uniforms with reflective stripes and drive panel vans with magnetic signs of one sort of emergency response group or another.
>
> The best deterrent of all is a nosy neighbor - and our neighborhood is full of those. Next best is a loud dog. Similarly, including two of our own.
there are various deterrents.
NT
> On Saturday, November 18, 2017 at 8:56:43 AM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
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> >
> > And outdoor lighting enables burglars to be seen.
>
> Do you have light(s) in your back yard?
yes
>
> >
> > And outdoor lighting enables burglars to be seen.
>
> Do you have light(s) in your back yard?
> Burglars seldom go in the front door.
> Yep. Those few burglars that still operate at night around here tend to wear bright uniforms with reflective stripes and drive panel vans with magnetic signs of one sort of emergency response group or another.
>
> The best deterrent of all is a nosy neighbor - and our neighborhood is full of those. Next best is a loud dog. Similarly, including two of our own.
NT
(PeteCresswell)
Nov 18, 2017, 4:32:47 PM11/18/17
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Per John-Del:
of the house and controlled by x10 - with as "Panic Switch" x10 remote
in the bedroom that turned them all on at once.
But the x10's did not age well, my paranoia subsided, and now we have
nothing security-wise.
For my backyard critter cams, I have been using 500w
motion-triggered halogen lights like this:
http://tinyurl.com/y92fxcfz
They *really* light things up - giving daylight color and motion
conditions to the cams.
If I were doing my home, I would put one of those (or maybe one of the
next grade up (http://tinyurl.com/y92fxcfz) at each potential entry
point.
I have no expert knowledge, but intuitively it seems to me like
motion-detected with *lots* of light would be superior because:
- They let you know something is up by the intense amount of
light suddenly shed outside
- It has to be unsettling to a prowler to be spotlighted while
the inside of the house is dark (giving advantage to the person
inside).
The weak point I have found in motion sensing is the sensors: sometimes
they get weird in cold weather and trigger spontaneously.
--
Pete Cresswell
>Does anyone know of a reliable system or pieces
I used to have 250w floods arranged to illuminate the entire perimeter
of the house and controlled by x10 - with as "Panic Switch" x10 remote
in the bedroom that turned them all on at once.
But the x10's did not age well, my paranoia subsided, and now we have
nothing security-wise.
For my backyard critter cams, I have been using 500w
motion-triggered halogen lights like this:
http://tinyurl.com/y92fxcfz
They *really* light things up - giving daylight color and motion
conditions to the cams.
If I were doing my home, I would put one of those (or maybe one of the
next grade up (http://tinyurl.com/y92fxcfz) at each potential entry
point.
I have no expert knowledge, but intuitively it seems to me like
motion-detected with *lots* of light would be superior because:
- They let you know something is up by the intense amount of
light suddenly shed outside
- It has to be unsettling to a prowler to be spotlighted while
the inside of the house is dark (giving advantage to the person
inside).
The weak point I have found in motion sensing is the sensors: sometimes
they get weird in cold weather and trigger spontaneously.
--
Pete Cresswell
pf...@aol.com
Nov 18, 2017, 5:45:21 PM11/18/17
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Our neighbor has motion sensors. Start with the premise that we are in the immediate ring-suburb to Philadelphia - I sometimes walk the dogs and cross over the border.
We have: Deer, wild turkeys, great-blue heron in the summer, raccoons, foxes, and more. Each and every one of which will trip a motion sensor, as the animals are fearless and they are more-or-less guided right by them.
And, as stated, cold weather does weird them out such that windy nights have them on as often as off.
Anything large enough to be of concern will get the dogs going even before any lights go on. People, other dogs, and deer - that is it. Timers if you must light up the world. Please.
We have: Deer, wild turkeys, great-blue heron in the summer, raccoons, foxes, and more. Each and every one of which will trip a motion sensor, as the animals are fearless and they are more-or-less guided right by them.
And, as stated, cold weather does weird them out such that windy nights have them on as often as off.
Anything large enough to be of concern will get the dogs going even before any lights go on. People, other dogs, and deer - that is it. Timers if you must light up the world. Please.
tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 18, 2017, 7:21:23 PM11/18/17
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NT
bruce2...@gmail.com
Nov 19, 2017, 1:29:24 AM11/19/17
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pf...@aol.com wrote:
> Our neighbor has motion sensors. Start with the premise that we are in the immediate ring-suburb to Philadelphia - I sometimes walk the dogs and cross over the border.
>
> We have: Deer, wild turkeys, great-blue heron in the summer, raccoons, foxes, and more. Each and every one of which will trip a motion sensor, as the animals are fearless and they are more-or-less guided right by them.
>
> And, as stated, cold weather does weird them out such that windy nights have them on as often as off.
>
> Anything large enough to be of concern will get the dogs going even before any lights go on. People, other dogs, and deer - that is it.
I remember seeing stats saying that night-time prowlers usually know the victims already. Explain that!
> Our neighbor has motion sensors. Start with the premise that we are in the immediate ring-suburb to Philadelphia - I sometimes walk the dogs and cross over the border.
>
> We have: Deer, wild turkeys, great-blue heron in the summer, raccoons, foxes, and more. Each and every one of which will trip a motion sensor, as the animals are fearless and they are more-or-less guided right by them.
>
> And, as stated, cold weather does weird them out such that windy nights have them on as often as off.
>
> Anything large enough to be of concern will get the dogs going even before any lights go on. People, other dogs, and deer - that is it.
pf...@aol.com
Nov 19, 2017, 7:29:52 AM11/19/17
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A successful burglar is not stupid. Most house robberies are committed during daylight hours when the residents are at work or school. Most are well-scoped. Have you had poll-takers, surveyors, solicitors for charity and various causes come to your door? Our township requires a license and picture-tag on a lanyard for such activities for that reason. Not that many comply.
Night-time burglaries tend to be equally well scoped. Such as porch-light on 24/7, or inside lights that stay on all night. Whatever is not what you do routinely will be spotted by a pro - and that is a signal for them. And, even timed lights that do not vary are a signal.
At the same time, a pro *will not* take on a challenge. They will move on to the next victim. It is similar to running from a bear. I do not have to outrun the bear, just the person with me. I do not have to have an impregnable house with super locks. Just be a bit more difficult than the guy next door.
Night-time burglaries tend to be equally well scoped. Such as porch-light on 24/7, or inside lights that stay on all night. Whatever is not what you do routinely will be spotted by a pro - and that is a signal for them. And, even timed lights that do not vary are a signal.
At the same time, a pro *will not* take on a challenge. They will move on to the next victim. It is similar to running from a bear. I do not have to outrun the bear, just the person with me. I do not have to have an impregnable house with super locks. Just be a bit more difficult than the guy next door.
tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 19, 2017, 11:22:39 AM11/19/17
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On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> A successful burglar is not stupid.
then what are they doing burgling?
> A successful burglar is not stupid.
NT
John-Del
Nov 19, 2017, 5:12:56 PM11/19/17
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FWIW, this is not a security issue. We have a full perimeter security system installed in our home. My wife and I are both licensed carriers and anyone in our home that doesn't follow instructions to stop and drop *will* be dropped anyway.
Motion detectors have always been dodgy at best, and while I would prefer to have the lights come on when anyone approaches them for convenience reasons I'll settle for dusk till dawn lighting.
We live on a dead end in a quiet suburb and there are no street lights. On a moonless or overcast night, it's freaking dark and hard to see whether in the driveway, my front porch, or my back deck.
I was happy with the motion detecting light fixtures we had (although several were bad out of the box as I recall), they don't last long enough to justify their existence. They also are finicky about both LED and CCFL lamps.
I was thinking about just replacing the switches that control these fixtures with something like this:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Mytouchsmart-In-Wall-Timer-26893/206787190
With these, I can have the front porch and back deck lights go off after say midnight and leave the driveway lights on till morning. They are also compatible with CFL and LED lights, something most sensing detectors are not. The last step would be to gut the electronics out of the fixtures I have (which are aluminum and otherwise in excellent shape) and hard wire them through.
bruce2...@gmail.com
Nov 20, 2017, 3:17:57 AM11/20/17
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On Sunday, 11/19/17 at 11:22AM, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > A successful burglar is not stupid.
>
> then what are they doing burgling?
They're stupid at everything else but burglarizing?
> On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > A successful burglar is not stupid.
>
> then what are they doing burgling?
Andy Burns
Nov 20, 2017, 3:22:06 AM11/20/17
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tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 20, 2017, 5:33:17 AM11/20/17
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On Monday, 20 November 2017 08:17:57 UTC, bruce2...@gmail.com wrote:
NT
> On Sunday, 11/19/17 at 11:22AM, tabby wrote:
> > On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> > > A successful burglar is not stupid.
> >
> > then what are they doing burgling?
>
> They're stupid at everything else but burglarizing?
then it's a sure bet they're stupid at burgling too
> > On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> > > A successful burglar is not stupid.
> >
> > then what are they doing burgling?
>
> They're stupid at everything else but burglarizing?
NT
tabb...@gmail.com
Nov 20, 2017, 5:33:54 AM11/20/17
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> > On Sunday, 11/19/17 at 11:22AM, tabby wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> A successful burglar is not stupid.
> >>
> >> then what are they doing burgling?
> >
> > They're stupid at everything else but burglarizing?
>
> I'm waiting for burglarizating to become a thing.
:)
> >> On Sunday, 19 November 2017 12:29:52 UTC, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> A successful burglar is not stupid.
> >>
> >> then what are they doing burgling?
> >
> > They're stupid at everything else but burglarizing?
>
> I'm waiting for burglarizating to become a thing.
NT
pf...@aol.com
Nov 20, 2017, 8:07:06 AM11/20/17
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Y'all can't be that dense.
They burgle as a business just like any other, with perhaps a bit of extra risk - which they work hard at minimizing. In the United State, the 'solve' rate is 9.3%, In England, about the same, with London being just 6%.
Making them pretty good at their business, and those not so good make up those crimes that are solved. And better than most small businesses, only half of which survive more than five years.
They burgle as a business just like any other, with perhaps a bit of extra risk - which they work hard at minimizing. In the United State, the 'solve' rate is 9.3%, In England, about the same, with London being just 6%.
Making them pretty good at their business, and those not so good make up those crimes that are solved. And better than most small businesses, only half of which survive more than five years.
John-Del
Nov 20, 2017, 8:40:58 AM11/20/17
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Actually, I don't really care about burglars or statistics, I just love any thread that I can use the verb burgle...
pf...@aol.com
Nov 20, 2017, 10:08:30 AM11/20/17
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Valid quibbles. However, the reality is that only about 1/3 of burglaries are reported. And the 'solves' tend to be in groups.
So, if a professional burgles one house per week (likely far less than that in reality), and the overall success rate is 91%, 0.91 x 300 = 5.25 years before he will get caught - purely based on statistics. Somewhat longer in London. 40% of burglaries are committed by "friends", family or acquaintances.
Point is that the average burglar is a pro, does extensive research ahead of the act, and is absolutely not looking for trouble. They don't walk into a neighborhood, pick a house at random and have-at. They will not be surprised by lights, bells, whistles, or much of anything else. They will be in and out of a house in less than 3 minutes, on average. They will emulate something that puts the average indifferent neighbor at ease - such as a reflective jumpsuit and clipboard. There was a robbery on the Main Line some time ago, where the team of burglars came in broad daylight, and while one group started to power-wash the house, the other group went inside and pretty much cleaned it out. They even put a "Power Washing Professionals" sign up at the curb. Another, two jumpsuited individuals went into the house with bright orange barrels with HazMat markings - and took out the goods inside the barrels. Neither teams were caught - except on cameras. No faces. Go figure.
So, if a professional burgles one house per week (likely far less than that in reality), and the overall success rate is 91%, 0.91 x 300 = 5.25 years before he will get caught - purely based on statistics. Somewhat longer in London. 40% of burglaries are committed by "friends", family or acquaintances.
Point is that the average burglar is a pro, does extensive research ahead of the act, and is absolutely not looking for trouble. They don't walk into a neighborhood, pick a house at random and have-at. They will not be surprised by lights, bells, whistles, or much of anything else. They will be in and out of a house in less than 3 minutes, on average. They will emulate something that puts the average indifferent neighbor at ease - such as a reflective jumpsuit and clipboard. There was a robbery on the Main Line some time ago, where the team of burglars came in broad daylight, and while one group started to power-wash the house, the other group went inside and pretty much cleaned it out. They even put a "Power Washing Professionals" sign up at the curb. Another, two jumpsuited individuals went into the house with bright orange barrels with HazMat markings - and took out the goods inside the barrels. Neither teams were caught - except on cameras. No faces. Go figure.
John-Del
Nov 20, 2017, 1:56:50 PM11/20/17
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On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 10:08:30 AM UTC-5, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> Valid quibbles. However, the reality is that only about 1/3 of burglaries are reported.
Citation? Seems hard to believe...
> Valid quibbles. However, the reality is that only about 1/3 of burglaries are reported.
> Point is that the average burglar is a pro, does extensive research ahead of the act, and is absolutely not looking for trouble. They don't walk into a neighborhood, pick a house at random and have-at.
>>There was a robbery on the Main Line some time ago, where the team of burglars came in broad daylight, and while one group started to power-wash the house, the other group went inside and pretty much cleaned it out.
>
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
Yeah, we get those too, but most home burglaries are nowhere near as sophisticated. To help your point, I'll venture that the average catch rate is far lower for the pro if you factor in the pot and crack heads who not only break down doors, but even do so when home owners are actually home and get caught in higher numbers.
> Melrose Park, PA
Can I say "burgle" one more time??
pf...@aol.com
Nov 20, 2017, 3:37:48 PM11/20/17
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On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 1:56:50 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
> Citation? Seems hard to believe...
Sorry, it varies by region, and I pulled my region and mis-applied it.
> Citation? Seems hard to believe...
Nationally, about 41% are unreported.
> You must have a more high class burglar where you are Peter. Most of the ones around here are pot heads looking for a quick score.
http://wnep.com/2014/02/19/puppies-rescued-from-meth-lab-in-columbia-county/
>
>
> Can I say "burgle" one more time??
bruce2...@gmail.com
Nov 22, 2017, 11:10:57 PM11/22/17
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pf...@aol.com wrote:
> Y'all can't be that dense.
>
> They burgle as a business just like any other, with perhaps a bit
> of extra risk - which they work hard at minimizing. In the United
> State, the 'solve' rate is 9.3%, In England, about the same, with London
> being just 6%.
But 'solve' meaning what? A super-quick judge, jury and sentencing? As opposed to investigators already having determined who's involved, when, where, but prosecutorsstaying mum and not yet bringing the case to court because of threats or interference by powerful well-connected leaders in business or government. Like with the big diamond heist at Zaventum airport in Brussels, it could be for whatever reason (like using street-level suspects to identify other ones, like major crime kingpins, larger crime rings involving corrupt or even foreign officials). This may go on for years before eventual 'solving' occurs).
> Y'all can't be that dense.
>
> They burgle as a business just like any other, with perhaps a bit
> of extra risk - which they work hard at minimizing. In the United
> State, the 'solve' rate is 9.3%, In England, about the same, with London
> being just 6%.
They talked about stuff like this on shows like 'Rockford Files', 'Matlock' and 'Murder, She Wrote'.
I get my stuff from 'the TV shows'.
That's how to do it, right?
bruce2...@gmail.com
Nov 22, 2017, 11:16:28 PM11/22/17
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pf...@aol.com wrote:
>On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 1:56:50 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
>
>> Citation? Seems hard to believe...
>
>Sorry, it varies by region, and I pulled my region and mis-applied it.
>
>Nationally, about 41% are unreported.
>
>> You must have a more high class burglar where you are Peter. Most of the ones around here are pot heads looking for a quick score.
>
>We had a rash of burglaries near our summer house, and 'they' got
>our house. Turned out to be the estranged nephew of our neighbor,
>who was stupid enough to leave mail addressed to him behind, and
>leave the swag - such as it was - at his aunt's house next door. We
>was caught, and in the process tried to run from the State Police.
'We?'
>On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 1:56:50 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
>
>> Citation? Seems hard to believe...
>
>Sorry, it varies by region, and I pulled my region and mis-applied it.
>
>Nationally, about 41% are unreported.
>
>> You must have a more high class burglar where you are Peter. Most of the ones around here are pot heads looking for a quick score.
>
>We had a rash of burglaries near our summer house, and 'they' got
>our house. Turned out to be the estranged nephew of our neighbor,
>who was stupid enough to leave mail addressed to him behind, and
>leave the swag - such as it was - at his aunt's house next door. We
>was caught, and in the process tried to run from the State Police.
John-Del
Nov 23, 2017, 5:20:04 AM11/23/17
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This switch is better than the GE I linked to as it has a "solar time table" that will adjust the dusk and dawn switch times based on an internal chart using my location. It also will eliminate the need for a photo sensor. If it works as I hope, I'll get three more and replace the rest of the switches.
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