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JD

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Jan 20, 2010, 1:33:10 PM1/20/10
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I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
connections in the room. I want to locate an
Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
connection there for that radio. In the next room,
about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
scheme that will work with one modem or are two
modems needed?

Thanks for the help.

Michael A. Terrell

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Jan 20, 2010, 2:13:14 PM1/20/10
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Unknown

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Jan 20, 2010, 2:44:10 PM1/20/10
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You might consider picking up a router. You'll
connect the single modem you have to the router,
then the router will connect both the computer and
internet radio. But, take a look at the ip address
that your computer thinks it has, (Start -> Run ->
type in CMD click ok.. in the black box type IPCONFIG.
If your IP ADDRESS is a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x then
you are already behind a router that may be built into the
modem.... in that case you'll just need a 10/100 hub
to connect both the computer and radio to the internet.
This is basic home networking.

Most modems will require a power down and power up
in order to talk to a router.


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Jamie

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Jan 20, 2010, 6:39:08 PM1/20/10
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JD wrote:

Get a router.

JD

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Jan 20, 2010, 6:59:21 PM1/20/10
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Thaaank you SomebodyHere :--)

nobod...@thisplace.com wrote:
> You might consider picking up a router. You'll
> connect the single modem you have to the router,
> then the router will connect both the computer and
> internet radio. But, take a look at the ip address
> that your computer thinks it has, (Start -> Run ->
> type in CMD click ok.. in the black box type IPCONFIG.
> If your IP ADDRESS is a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x then

Yes, I have the 192.168.......

> you are already behind a router that may be built into the
> modem.... in that case you'll just need a 10/100 hub
> to connect both the computer and radio to the internet.
> This is basic home networking.

I prefer wired to wireless in routers. Could a
second DSL modem be used?
If not then, a wired router would be my choice. I
already use a firewall,
so would another one be needed?

> Most modems will require a power down and power up
> in order to talk to a router.

I could probably handle that. You'll probably hear
a lot of screaming
if it doesn't work for me. ;-)

Thanks for your help.

JD

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Jan 20, 2010, 10:15:17 PM1/20/10
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Thank you Michael for your help.

The Linksys you mentioned costs $80

I found a much less expensive Dell D-Link wired
router at:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0723741&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378&acd=10549103-3087823-

EBR-2310 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router.

Cost is $42+

Problem is the note on the page: Works with
Windows Vista

"Software and devices that carry the Works with
Windows Vista logo have been tested for baseline
compatibility with PC's running." I use Win2000.
I tried to find more info but they always want
some kind of tag or code, which I have not.

JD

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Jan 20, 2010, 10:16:32 PM1/20/10
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Thanks, I'm trying.

Kevin McMurtrie

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Jan 20, 2010, 10:58:31 PM1/20/10
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In article <4B5755CA...@earthlink.net>,

I would definitely NOT recommend Linksys. Recent models have been
cost-reduced to the point of not working any more. I'm about ready to
put my Netgear out on the sidewalk too because it's so buggy.

Some modems already have built-in routers. If so, just add a simple
WAP. A WAP has very little functionality so there's very little to go
wrong with it.
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Peter Bennett

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Jan 21, 2010, 12:45:25 PM1/21/10
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That is just a comforting note for those who use Vista, since many
things don't work with Vista.

A router should work with computers using any operating system, or
even any mix of operating systems.

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Michael A. Terrell

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Jan 21, 2010, 2:35:27 PM1/21/10
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JD wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > JD wrote:
> >> I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
> >> house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
> >> connections in the room. I want to locate an
> >> Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
> >> connection there for that radio. In the next room,
> >> about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
> >> computer and I want it to use the DSL also.
> >>
> >> An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
> >> length) is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
> >> radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
> >> scheme that will work with one modem or are two
> >> modems needed?
> >
> >
> > You need a router to network them. Something like the Linksys
> > BEFSR41:
> > <http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=3906544&productCategoryId=pcmcat151600050016&type=product&cmp=++&lid=abn_sku_2_Wired+Networking_SKU_3906544_TXT&id=1051384171495>
> >
>
> Thank you Michael for your help.
>
> The Linksys you mentioned costs $80


They can be bought for a lot less. i saw one on the local craigslist
for $15 last week. Also, Check the refurbished units at 'Best Buy' and
other outlet stores. Usually under half price.

When I bought the original version of that router it was $179.


> I found a much less expensive Dell D-Link wired
> router at:
> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=A0723741&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=BF&cid=7421&lid=197378&acd=10549103-3087823-
>
> EBR-2310 4-Port Ethernet Broadband Router.
>
> Cost is $42+
>
> Problem is the note on the page: Works with
> Windows Vista
>
> "Software and devices that carry the Works with
> Windows Vista logo have been tested for baseline
> compatibility with PC's running." I use Win2000.
> I tried to find more info but they always want
> some kind of tag or code, which I have not.

Michael A. Terrell

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Jan 21, 2010, 2:41:29 PM1/21/10
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>
> I would definitely NOT recommend Linksys. Recent models have been
> cost-reduced to the point of not working any more. I'm about ready to
> put my Netgear out on the sidewalk too because it's so buggy.

I've had my Linksys WRT54G for about five years. It replaced the
single port version of the BEFSR41, the BEFSR11 when I needed wireless,
and that was used for about five years. In case you haven't noticed,
all computer hardware is barely worth taking home these days.

> Some modems already have built-in routers. If so, just add a simple
> WAP. A WAP has very little functionality so there's very little to go
> wrong with it.


The WAP is a wireless router minus the software and extra Ethernet
ports. The only thing less in hardware is the switch and Ethernet
connectors.

JD

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Jan 21, 2010, 9:48:00 PM1/21/10
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Thanks all for the good guidance.

Jasen Betts

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Jan 22, 2010, 4:18:50 AM1/22/10
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On 2010-01-20, JD <J...@NoDen.con> wrote:
>
> I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
> house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
> connections in the room. I want to locate an
> Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
> connection there for that radio. In the next room,
> about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
> computer and I want it to use the DSL also.

you can have multiple DSL connections but it's not like that it's
multiple virtual channels to a single DSL router. (no use to you)

there are other products that can push ethernet over phone lines
but wi-fi is probably the best solution for you if you don't want to
drill a 5/8" hole in the wall to poke a "RJ45" cable through.
(or a 1/4" hole if you're prepared to replace the plug on one end)

> An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
> length)

those cables are available in lengths upto 164' if you shop around.

> is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
> radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
> scheme that will work with one modem or are two
> modems needed?

get a modem with an internal router and switch
(or get an external router and/or switch)

then you'll have several "RJ45" sockets so you can cable to both the
computer and the radio.

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JD

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Jan 23, 2010, 1:01:03 AM1/23/10
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Thank you Jasen - now I feel closer to the solution,
or is it my imagination ;-)

Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2010-01-20, JD <J...@NoDen.con> wrote:
>> I have a phone line that enters at one end of a
>> house and has a double plate for the usual 2 phone
>> connections in the room. I want to locate an
>> Internet radio near that plate and to have a DSL
>> connection there for that radio. In the next room,
>> about 16' away from the same radio, I have a
>> computer and I want it to use the DSL also.
>
> you can have multiple DSL connections but it's not like that it's
> multiple virtual channels to a single DSL router. (no use to you)

I don't need to use both the radio and the
computer at the same time.
They are in different rooms and I have not learned
how to be in two
rooms at the same time, yet. I'm working on that
too ;-)

> there are other products that can push ethernet over phone lines
> but wi-fi is probably the best solution for you if you don't want to
> drill a 5/8" hole in the wall to poke a "RJ45" cable through.
> (or a 1/4" hole if you're prepared to replace the plug on one end)

There is already a hole in that wall, so I need an
RJ45 cable about
20' long with plugs. The radio would be near the
modem and if I had
a switchbox there, a flick would shut off the
radio and send the signals
to the computer.

>> An RJ45 Ethernet cable (usually about 4' to 5' in
>> length)
>
> those cables are available in lengths upto 164' if you shop around.

Thanks for the info

>> is needed to connect the DSL modem to the
>> radio or to the computer. Is there a wiring
>> scheme that will work with one modem or are two
>> modems needed?
>
> get a modem with an internal router and switch
> (or get an external router and/or switch)

.....and retire my present modem?

> then you'll have several "RJ45" sockets so you can cable to both the
> computer and the radio.

I'll need to chew on this for a bit. Thanks again
for your suggestions. :-)

Have a great weekend!

JD

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Jan 24, 2010, 4:34:52 PM1/24/10
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Just as I was about to buy from NewEgg a 4-port
D-Link external router for my computer
I found that I already had a Gigabyte Desktop
Adapter with info: 2.4GHz, 802.11b/g, 54Mbps.
Basically it is an antenna attached to a PCI card,
so I guess the computer must be running if I want
to listen to my Internet radio ???

Last night I temporarily moved the DSL modem to
the radio and it worked very nicely.

Had another thought. If I buy the D-Link router -
it is a box external to the computer -
will it function if the computer is off and I want
to use the radio? The following is about the router:

"Perfect for home or small office use, the D-Link
EBR-2310 offers superior connectivity and
excellent security at a price that's just right.
With four 10/100Mbps Ethernet connectors, the
EBR-2310 can connect up to four PCs or other
network devices. Advanced switching technology
effectively and efficiently manages your network
traffic so that your data keeps flowing, no matter
how much of it there is. "

So I guess the router will work ok when the
computer is down.

TIA

Jamie

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Jan 24, 2010, 5:00:44 PM1/24/10
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JD wrote:

Yes, A wireless router works with out the computer.
you will need to use the computer to set it up how ever. things
like the WAB security log on for wireless connections etc.. Unless you
want to leave it opened! :) Many would love you for that!,. Free internet!

JD

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Feb 2, 2010, 2:04:30 AM2/2/10
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I bought a D-Link 4 port wired router and am very
pleased with it.
Now I am struggling with the Aluratek Internet
radio, especially
the Jukebox. Has anyone conquered this
Radio/Jukebox pair?

TIA

JD

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Mar 8, 2010, 9:38:42 PM3/8/10
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CONCLUSION:

The D-Link router works like a charm.

The Aluratek was a piece of trash and I returned it.
Now all I need is a great Internet Radio - <sigh>

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