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Mitchell Jones

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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I am looking for an inexpensive wattmeter that I could plug an AC
appliance into, then plug the wattmeter into the wall outlet, and get a
reading for the power consumption of the appliance. Does anybody make such
a gadget? If not, who makes power meters, anyway? TIA. --Mitchell Jones
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Ren Tescher

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Hebach & Rademan used to sell surplus kilowatt/hour meters for about $30.
These are the 'glass warts' the power company has outside your house.
You can cut a short extension cord in half and put the plug end on the input
and the socket end on the output then with a calender or clock you can
measure how much power it used over a period of time. Not great
for instantanious measurements, but you didn't ask for that and you
did ask for inexpensive.

http://www.herbach.com

Ren
dona nobis pacem

Fred E. Davis

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:50:36 -0500, mjo...@jump.net (Mitchell Jones)
wrote:

>I am looking for an inexpensive wattmeter ...

What meter?

>Yes.

Huh? What meter do you want.

>I want a watt meter.

That's what I said, "What meter?"

>That's the one I want!

I *know* that! But what meter?

>Yes!

Let's make this easy; you want a meter, right?

>Yes.

What meter?

>Sure, that's what I've been asking for!

What!

>Yep, that's the one.

Aiieeee.......

Fred E. Davis

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:50:36 -0500, mjo...@jump.net (Mitchell Jones)
wrote:

>I am looking for an inexpensive wattmeter that I could plug an AC


>appliance into, then plug the wattmeter into the wall outlet, and get a
>reading for the power consumption of the appliance. Does anybody make such
>a gadget? If not, who makes power meters, anyway? TIA. --Mitchell Jones
>=====================================================

If you want to build your own, check out "Optical Isolator Computes
Watts," by W. Stephen Woodward, Electronic Design, October 14, 1994,
pp. 100-102, and "Simple Digital AC Wattmeter" by W. Stephen Woodward,
Supplement to Electronic Design, October 22, 1998, pp. 15-17. Since
this attaches directly to mains power, do not attempt to build it
unless you have sufficient skill and experience.

Mitchell Jones

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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In article <37E26401...@mayo.edu>, Ren Tescher
<tesch...@mayo.edu> wrote:

> Hebach & Rademan used to sell surplus kilowatt/hour meters for about $30.
> These are the 'glass warts' the power company has outside your house.
> You can cut a short extension cord in half and put the plug end on the input
> and the socket end on the output then with a calender or clock you can
> measure how much power it used over a period of time. Not great
> for instantanious measurements, but you didn't ask for that and you
> did ask for inexpensive.
>
> http://www.herbach.com
>
> Ren
> dona nobis pacem

***{Thanks, Ren. I checked the site out. They have their catalog online,
but I didn't find the type of gadget you described in the meters section.
Should I have looked elsewhere in the catalog? By the way, by
"inexpensive" I meant "less than $300," not "under $50." (Nowadays, thanks
to decades of inflation, you can't get diddley squat for less than $50.
:-) So far, the only plausible looking meter I have found along these
lines is the Extech 400A DC/AC Power DMM, which is claimed to do DC and AC
true power measurements to 240 kW. It is a clamp-on meter and lists for
$245. Does anybody out there have any experience with it? Any comments,
particularly concerning its limitations, would be welcome. TIA. --Mitchell
Jones}***
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Mitchell Jones

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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In article <tqXiN2QPDOoYLF...@4ax.com>, Fred E. Davis
<FED...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

***{Thanks Fred. I'll check it out. --MJ}***
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Mitchell Jones

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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By the way, it occurs to me that I should be a bit more specific about the
kind of power meter I need. My immediate problem requires a power meter
that can measure what is roughly a 220 watt signal with an accuracy of 1
or 2 watts. I can be that specific because I have already determined the
power calorimetrically--i.e., by measuring the rate of heat output of the
device--and obtained a value of about 220 watts. As a double-check against
the calorimetry, however, I want to use a power meter. Does anyone have
any suggestions regarding a power meter that is suited to this very
specific problem? Thanks. --Mitchell Jones
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Mitchell Jones

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Here's another idea: AC power equals voltage times current times the
cosine of the phase angle. I already have a good DMM, so all I need is
some way to determine the phase angle. Does anyone sell a cheap meter that
indicates the phase angle of an AC waveform when a specific device is
being operated? --Mitchell Jones
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Tom Van Baak

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Mitchell Jones wrote:
> I am looking for an inexpensive wattmeter that I could plug an AC
> appliance into, then plug the wattmeter into the wall outlet, and get a
> reading for the power consumption of the appliance. Does anybody make such
> a gadget? If not, who makes power meters, anyway? TIA. --Mitchell Jones

http://www.brandelectronics.com/

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Don Lancaster

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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Mitchell Jones wrote:

Try the Brand Electronics wattmeter banner on my website at http://www.tinaja.com
I believe they can do custom units for higher ratings at fairly low cost.


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Don Lancaster
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
voice: (520)428-4073 email: d...@tinaja.com fax 847-574-1462

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