Motor start/stop switch with integrated mini contactor?
DaveC
I just became aware of this item:
<http://img-europe.electrocomponents.com/images/R3985229-01.jpg>
Data sheet here:
<http://www.pdfdoc.ru/data/pdf42805>
It includes a 2-pole 16A contactor in that little size. Can also be ordered
with the option of external connection for safety stop push-button switch.
I can't find a USA distributor for these. Anybody know where to get these?
The company is in Germany:
<http://www.eichhoff.com/unternehmen_ueber-eichhoff_en.php>
Or is there a domestic (USA) product that is similar?
Thanks,
Dave
The Ghost In The Machine
HAVE YOU ASKED "SWITCHES UNLIMITED" ONLINE...THEY ARE LOCATED IN THE
US.
TGITM
DaveC
> probably supply a switch of this type.
> The parts lists are available from at least a couple of said companies.
I've searched for "No-Volt Release" (NVR) switches and have found very, very
few here in N. America. The US definition is a full contactor inside a
housing with a start/stop combo switch on the front. Not my idea of "min".
Europe uses these much more.
HF doesn't list anything like this.
If you know of any manufacturers I'd be glad to know of them.
> So, if it is this type of switch, any interruption of the coil current will
> cause the contacts to open, and cause the machine motor to come to a stop
> (until the Start button is used to close the contacts again).. meaning that
> a commonly available normally closed (momentary open) switch with the proper
> voltage/current ratings wired in series with the coil circuit will also act
> as a Stop switch (E-Stop or other terminology).. unless the contacts become
> stuck shut.. then the OHshit switch needs to be utilized.
>
> This isn't the standard method commonly used in the US, for
> starting/stopping a machine motor, but it is a cheaper way to produce a
> motor starter.
That's the plan...
> Cheers,
> WB
Thanks,
Dave
The Ghost In The Machine
> > Harbor Freight, or any number of other machine importers/sellers could
> > probably supply a switch of this type.
> > The parts lists are available from at least a couple of said companies.
>
> I've searched for "No-Volt Release" (NVR) switches and have found very, very
> few here in N. America. The US definition is a full contactor inside a
> housing with a start/stop combo switch on the front. Not my idea of "min".
>
> Europe uses these much more.
>
> HF doesn't list anything like this.
>
> If you know of any manufacturers I'd be glad to know of them.
>
YOU MUST THINK YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOME KIND OF DUMMIES.
"TELEMECANIQUE" HAS THEM......NOW OWNED BY SCHNEIDER ELECTRIC.
PATECUM
TGITM
DaveC
Can you please give me p/n or link? I've not turned up any yet.
Maybe I'm the dummy...
Thanks,
Dave
DaveC
starters (contactors).
I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.
Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
start/stop switch without contactor.
Dave
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
>The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
>starters (contactors).
Ignore the troll.
>I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
>Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
>which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.
>
>Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
>start/stop switch without contactor.
These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:
http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch
The Ghost In The Machine
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
WHATS NEXT?
COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSÈ!
I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
++BEST WISHES++
PATECUM
TGITM
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
<prote...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
><k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
>> >The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
>> >starters (contactors).
>>
>> Ignore the troll.
>>
>> >I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
>> >Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
>> >which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.
>>
>> >Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
>> >start/stop switch without contactor.
>>
>> These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
>> larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch
>
>........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
>AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
>PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
>WHATS NEXT?
> COME OVER & INSTALL IT? BOOWAHAHAHAHA, NO WAY JOSČ!
>I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
>WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
> ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
>FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
>ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
>++BEST WISHES++
At least DaveC now knows what you are.
>PATECUM
Still eating that stuff Queerjano.
>TGITM
I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.
The Ghost In The Machine
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost In The Machine
>
>
>
>
>
> <proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
> ><k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
> >> >The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
> >> >starters (contactors).
>
> >> Ignore the troll.
>
> >> >I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
> >> >Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
> >> >which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.
>
> >> >Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
> >> >start/stop switch without contactor.
>
> >> These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
> >> larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch
>
> >........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
> >AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
> >PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
> >WHATS NEXT?
> >I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
> >WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
> > ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
> >FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
> >ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
> >++BEST WISHES++
>
> At least DaveC now knows what you are.
>
> >PATECUM
>
> Still eating that stuff Queerjano.
>
> >TGITM
>
> I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.
I'M GOING TO TELL HIS BENEFACTOR ABOUT YOU.
MAYBE HE'LL GIVE YOU THE ANAL REAMING YOU DESIRE, YOU QUEER.
I BET YOU HANG AROUND THESE GROUPS LUSTING FOR COCK, EVER SINCE YOUR
DADDY LEFT YOU.
YOU SAP......QUIT STAINING YOUR PANTS BOTTOM FREAK!
YOU'RE DISGUSTING WILLAMINA.
PATECUM
TGITM
Michael A. Terrell
"k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:18:28 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost In The Machine
> <prote...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 30, 4:03 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
> ><k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:18:02 -0700, DaveC <inva...@invalid.net> wrote:
> >> >The only Telemecanique products I've been able to find are full-size magnetic
> >> >starters (contactors).
> >>
> >> Ignore the troll.
> >>
> >> >I'm looking for a manual start/stop switch with 2-pole contactor built-in.
> >> >Pressing the start button manually closes the contacts and energizes a coil,
> >> >which holds the contacts closed. Power fail opens the contacts.
> >>
> >> >Small (micro!) is what I'm looking for. No larger than the size of a
> >> >start/stop switch without contactor.
> >>
> >> These are sometimes called "magnetic start switches" and are commonly found on
> >> larger woodworking tools. I don't know if they're small enough for you but:http://www.grizzly.com/search/search.aspx?q=power%20switch
> >
> >........SHUT UP ASS DROOL.......I OWED YOU THAT!
> >AS FOR A P/N DAVE I DO NOT WORK FOR THEM...CONTACT THE CO's I
> >PROVIDED...THEY COME HIGHLY RECOMMENED FOR SWITCHES ETC.
> >WHATS NEXT?
> >I AM A GHOST AND DO NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, BUT MAYBE KRAWFISHRW IS
> >WILLING TO COMPLETE THE JOB FOR YOU.
> > ASK HIS SQUALID ASS TO HELP YOU GET IT & HELP US KEEP THE INTERNET
> >FOOL FREE, ITS A GOOD COMBO.
> >ANYTIME OF THE VIRTUAL NIGHT OR DAY.
> >++BEST WISHES++
>
> At least DaveC now knows what you are.
>
> >PATECUM
>
> Still eating that stuff Queerjano.
>
> >TGITM
>
> I told you a long time ago, Queerjano, penicillin will do wonders for that.
Not anymore. They even made a movie about him and all that pus.
--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
YOU LOW LIFE NO CLASS CREEPS...SEE WHAT YOU DO?
OFF TOPIC CROSSPOSTING CRAP.....YOU MUST BE EXECUTED.
PATECUM
TGITM
Michael A. Terrell
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> YOU LOW LIFE NO CLASS CREEPS...SEE WHAT YOU DO?
> OFF TOPIC CROSSPOSTING CRAP.....YOU MUST BE EXECUTED.
> PATECUM
> TGITM
FOAD, you little queer mama's boy. Only queers post in all caps, and
everyone knows it.
The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
FOAD ?????? NO SHIT, YOU FAGGOTY LTLLE HATEFUL TROLL.....JUST SHUT THE
FUCK UP BEFORE I MENTION THE TIME YOU POSTED YOUR ANUS FOR EVERYONE
TO SEE.......YOU ARE THE ONLY MAMA BOY QUEER ASS IDIOT HERE, ASSHOLE.
VOLTAGE DOESNT KILL...YOU FUCKING IDIOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE ASKED,
FOOL!
PATECUM
TGITM
Charles
arenas:
1/ Canvas floor, ropes around the perimeter
2/ Pub in North Ireland
3/ Moderated debate at an institute of learning
4/ Street in an Atlanta ghetto
5/ Court of law
The Ghost In The Machine
CHASQUETTE, BUST A MOVE SUCKA!
BOOWAHAHAHAHA !!
PATECUM
The Ghost In The Machine
YOU SHOULD KNOW, YOU ARE HERBY ENJOINDER, YOU BIG DUNCE.
TGITM
Teredo
Court. There are a couple retards sitting in a Mexican jail facing 30
years for making similar comments on Twitter.
Any time you are threatened like this it's time to act.
The Ghost In The Machine
ONLY A FOOL WOULD TWEET KILL SHOOT TO THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD....
AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THEY CAN CAP ROY BOY AFTER THEY NAIL MICHAEL.
ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU DO NOT HIRE MEXICANS TO DO YOUR DIRTY
WORK.
IT'S A SPOOF PERFORMED ONLY BY NATIVES....BOOWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
WALK! OH AND DO NOT FOLLOW ME!
PATECUM
TGITM
I AM A GHOST
The Ghost In The Machine
Sorry Dave...freaking macrospasmatic michael the moron just doesn't
know who from what anymore.
I'll get you a seasoned cool tech for 75$ and hour to do this vwork
for you.
BOOWWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ROY IS IN CUSTODY FOR SHOOTING HIS SUPERINTENDENT IN THE HEAD.
THE SUPER SURVIVED WITH A CLEAN HOLE THROU HIS NOGGIN, BUT THEY
DETAINED HIM WHEN HE STARTED OUT AFTER THE LAND LORD.....THEY DROVE
THE POOR OLD LAD TOO FAR THIS TIME ;(
BOOWAHAHAHAHA !
PATECUM
Michael A. Terrell
Charles wrote:
>
> It would be a real blast to see all of the posers in one or more of these
> arenas:
> 4/ Street in an Atlanta ghetto
Why would we want to visit you, in your ghetto? Roy J Quijano of
Bronx, Ny. has been making death threats for years. It doesn't surprise
me that you are interested in his mindless rants and threats.
The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
SHUT UP FOOL...ROY JESUS QUIJANO IS NOT THE SUBJECT HERE..YOU ARE!
YOU ANTI-GOVERNMENT ANTI-PERSONNEL BASTARD.....GET A MOVE ON YOU
PSYCHO FREAK.
PATECUM
TGITM
Jamie
You two are a perfect couple..
Jamie
Charles
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
news:Q5-dnb6L_OTrdvjT...@earthlink.com...
Ahem! Sense? I was suggesting other, perhaps more fitting, venues for this
crap. Do you have any sense, as in common sense?
The Ghost In The Machine
> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in messagenews:Q5-dnb6L_OTrdvjT...@earthlink.com...
CHASKITTY SENSE IS NULL, MOOT, MORTAL, UNREAL, THEREFOR IRRELEVANT.
THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS BACK UP TOP THOUGH, IT IS A NATIONAL
PRIORITY.
BOOWAHAHAHAHA !
JAMIE, BITE CHAS.
PATECUM
TGITM
Michael A. Terrell
Yawn. Go complain about cheap TV speakers again. We're still
laughing at you over that one, because it shows that you not only have
no sense, but you've never had any.
The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
YOU DO NOT VOICE THIS GROUPS STATE OF MIND.
NO ONE IS HERE TO LAUGH AT ANYONE ELSE, YOU CREEPY LOW LIFE.
YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON TO VIEW THIS GROUP YOU HACK.
BUZZ OFF OR DIE FREAK-O AND SAVE THE TAXPAYERS THE GRIEF & EXPENDITURE
YOU CAUSE.
PATECUM
TGITM
The Ghost In The Machine
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
NO PROFILE, NO MEMBERSHIP, HE'S JUST A BIG NOTHING WITH A LOAD OF
NOTHING TO SHARE.
I SAY, BAN THE BUMB!
TGITM
PAT ECUM
William Sommerwerck
news:6335d2eb-4383-469e...@t29g2000vby.googlegroups.com...
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> YOU CAUSE.
> PATECUM
> TGITM
>
LOL!
--
Dirk
http://www.neopax.com/technomage/ - Magick and Technology
Michael A. Terrell
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> LOL!
That's right, keep feeding one of the trolls that trashed
news:alt.engineering.electrical. Beteween Roy J Quijano (Bronx, NY) and
dimbulb along with their hordes of sock puppets, they completely trashed
that group and drove off the regular users. Keep feeding him, and the
pair will destroy these groups as well.
The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
SO FUCK OFF & TAKE YOUR BUNNY RABBIT WITH YOU.
PATECUM
TGITM
Jamie
Jamie
The Ghost In The Machine
>
> > LOOK JIRK, IT'S NOT A LAUGHING MATTER HOOTINI..
> > SO FUCK OFF & TAKE YOUR BUNNY RABBIT WITH YOU.
> > PATECUM
> > TGITM
>
> It's people like you, are the reason we have leaders like we do now.
>
> Jamie
IF YOU BELIEVED IN LEADERSHIP YOU WOULDN'T BE SO SNOTTY AND
DISRESPECTFUL.
BESIDES, I AM NOT PEOPLE...I AM A GHOST.
SO REASSESS YOUR VIEWS ON POLITICS AND WHAT A LEADER IS.....
PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED SOME FORM OF HARMLESS HUMOR AND HUMANITY BUT THEY
ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAMPER, THREATEN OR UNDERMINE THE STATUS QUO
WITHOUT SOME FORM OF REPERCUSSION....WOULD YOU RUN THROUGH A RED LIGHT
HIT SOMEONE AND LAUGH ABOUT IT?
IT'S YOU THAT ARE AT FAULT FOR NOT FOLLOWING "YOUR" LEADERS AND MAKING
AN ISSUE.
THE BEST LEADERS, A TRUE LEADER LEADS BEST BY EXAMPLE.
PATECUM
TGITM
The Ghost In The Machine
NEVER FORGET !
PATECUM
three_jeeps
wrote:
I knew there was a reason for his caps...now, if someone could put a
wooden stake through his heart, it would make this NG a lot more
enjoyable. Then again, he can't help he is an ass*, he was born that
way.
The Ghost In The Machine
KEEP DREAMING CREEP JEEP....ENJOY THIS TROLL SOOTHER.
TERROLL, DEFINITELY NOT NICE HEARING FROM YOU.
FOAD???YOU FIRST FAGGOTY MAN..YOU ARE THE EXPERT QUEER HERE.
BOOWAHAHAHAHA........YOU FIEND, EAT YOUR DARTS, I MEAN, YOUR RAVIOLIS.
BOOWAHAHAHAHA!
TAKE HEED !!! PERSIST & I WILL HAUNT YOU IN THE AFTERLIFE AS WELL.
YOU TO MISTER MORON:
I SEE YOU GOT YOUR MOUTH OFF TERROLLS TOOL & ONTO ROYS LONG ENOUGH TO
ACT LIKE A USENET MAMON ONCE MORE, YOU FOOL!
PATECUM
TGITM