Bullshit, hype or revolution?
Dirk Bruere at Neopax
http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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Luhan Monat
> http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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That new political party is also interesting....
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Tim Auton
>Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote:
>> http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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>> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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>> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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>Hmmmm, the patent number checks out at http://uspto.gov
In could get a patent for stroking a cat from head to tail in the USA.
So could my cat. It's not a good metric.
Tim
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Dirk Bruere at Neopax
"Tim Auton" <tim.auton@uton.[group sex without the y]> wrote in message
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True, but they apparently have a real product on sale *now*.
I'd really like to know more about it, and other people's opinions.
> Tim
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Terry Pinnell
>http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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>http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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>256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
Definitely sounds like it qualifies as 'revolution' to me. Sure could
use some of that for my Pocket PC...
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Dirk Bruere at Neopax
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypi...@dial.pipexTHIS.com> wrote in message
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> "Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <di...@neopax.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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> >http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> >256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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> Definitely sounds like it qualifies as 'revolution' to me. Sure could
> use some of that for my Pocket PC...
Sounds like the end of the mechanical hard drive if true.
And about time.
Also sounds too good to be true.
Paul Burke
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> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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"NvIOpSRAM for 256GB has the selling price of $50.00 per 1GB."
OK, it's early days yet, but I just bought a 120GB hard disk for 65 UK
pounds- say $110. It will be a while before this (untested) technology
can compete except for very specialised applications. There's a lot of
work with microdrives and flash to be done yet.
Paul Burke
Dirk Bruere at Neopax
"Paul Burke" <pa...@scazon.com> wrote in message
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But this leaves both in the dust.
No doubt if this is genuine the only reason it costs $50 per GB is because
they can get away with it, being a monopoly and being produced only in small
numbers so far.
I would expect the technology to be quite competitive on price with hard
drives, if not considerably cheaper.
And it wasn't so long ago (6yrs?) that $50 per GB was *cheap*.
Stefan Heinzmann
> http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
I vote for bullshit.
Note the following:
o The RAM is supposed to operate at 1.4V, yet have TTL compatible
signalling
o The cycle time is quoted as 1.1ns, which would require different
signalling (TTL levels can't do that speed. You'd need something like
LVDS or ECL).
o Putting such a fast memory technology into a USB dongle is idiocy.
o How can a chip with an organization of 32Mx64 come in a package with
8 pins?
o There's a certain discrepancy between the claimed ingenuity of their
research and the sophistication of their web page.
o USA, Israel, Japan, Netherlands, Malaysia, Mexico, Moldova, Tatarstan
-- yeah right!
o Have you seen any real address, phone number or anything that would
allow tracking the company down?
Enough?
Cheers
Stefan
John Larkin
<di...@neopax.com> wrote:
>http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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>http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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>256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
Obvious, semiliterate BS. If they had a breakthrough like this, they
certainly wouldn't be selling it retail. And how do you
holographically address a terabit of data through an optical fiber?
Nice statuettes and medals, though. Maybe I'll start a foundation,
elect myself President, and give myself a lot of awards for
innovation.
John
Steve Roberts
> Dirk Bruere at Neopax schrieb:
what you are missing is in the data sheet, it needs a laser scanner
to read it out. while galvo scanners are remarkably fast and
accosto-optic or electro-optic
scanning techniques are even faster, a optically addressed memory is
still going to be a bulky pain in the a$$ to build for say the next
ten years until polymer based electro-holographic optical switches
are perfected. maybe with a MEMS mirror chip as a read out, but
addressing the MEMS is not cheap and mems resolution is low unless you
can layer their chips in a stack!
the cost quoted is raw chip cost without the laser and scanner
factored in.
great if you need a huge library of write once read many chips and
only one reader, otherwise......................
Steve Roberts
Quack
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Tim Shoppa
> http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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None of the above. I think it's satire, along the lines of the
Signetics "Write-Only-Memory". The ridiculous claims,
the funny language and spelling, the two one-man "institutes", etc.
Tim.
Zak
I especially like the way image input works on the 'solar image
recorder' chip.
I'm sure the person setting it up had a lot of fun!
Thomas
Tim Shoppa
> I especially like the way image input works on the 'solar image
> recorder' chip.
Actually, in the late 1970's one hobbyist magazine had plans
for turning a 4K DRAM chip into a video camera. Pop the top off the
chip, expose to light, and the incident photons tended to flip
bits asymmetrically.
To call it a "recorder" was certainly a stretch!
Tim.
Michael A. Terrell
Byte magazine, Circuit Cellar column
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Boris Mohar
Why not? After all it use a gold plated audio plug and a jack.
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Kevin McMurtrie
"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <di...@neopax.com> wrote:
> http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
3D halographic storage was invented years ago but it's still not
practical for real use. At best you can make a demo of it almost doing
something.
It looks like the web page is a humorous joke. The photos are clearly
electronics junk chopped up, glued together, and hastily modified with
digital photo software. There's a bunch of surface mount resistors,
some halographic stickers, a surface mount chip with badly damaged pins,
anti-static foam, and what appears to be a microwave filter chassis
(cell phone?).
Lets see which newspapers fall for it.
Dirk Bruere at Neopax
"Kevin McMurtrie" <mcmu...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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I came across this from a report of stuff shown at Comdex
Tim Shoppa
> electronics junk chopped up, glued together, and hastily modified with
> digital photo software. There's a bunch of surface mount resistors,
> some halographic stickers, a surface mount chip with badly damaged pins,
> anti-static foam, and what appears to be a microwave filter chassis
> (cell phone?).
>
> Lets see which newspapers fall for it.
The "Dr. NakaMats", who proudly admits to being one of the five greatest
scientific geniuses of all time, seems to be a character not too different
than the fictional Buckaroo Banzai. Based on my primitive web searches,
he seems to be idolized in Japanese newspapers (where he pontificates
on subjects ranging from how great a genius he is to how sex leads to
business skills). I assume this is all based entirely on his own
self-promotion, although I could be wrong.
Give me Mr. Wizard any day of the week :-)
Tim.
Wayne Shanks
> http://www.atomchip.com/_wsn/page2.html
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> http://www.compu-technics.com/pages/10/index.htm
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> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
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WOW, I was going to consider that they might have some obscure quantum
optics effect, that might be useful in 30 years... that is until I got a
load of
http://www.compu-technics.com/images/solar%20memory.WMV
that movie was almost comical....
my take.... total and complete bullshit
Wayne s