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Jim Thompson

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May 29, 2008, 12:11:09 PM5/29/08

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http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324

mpm

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May 29, 2008, 8:50:38 PM5/29/08

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On May 29, 12:11�pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-

> | E-mail Icon athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| � �1962 � � |

>
> � � There is no better demonstration of ignorance than that of
> � � � a politician trying to explain scientific matters :-(

So, would you include Scott McClellan in the "angry white man"
category?
-mpm

Jim Thompson

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May 29, 2008, 9:17:25 PM5/29/08

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On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:50:38 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmi...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On May 29, 12:11?pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
>Web-Site.com> wrote:
>> http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
>>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ...Jim Thompson
>
[snip - why can't your newsreader follow the rules for sig snipping?

>
>So, would you include Scott McClellan in the "angry white man"
>category?
>-mpm

Not hardly. He's an incompetent opportunist. Have you seen him in
action? He's such a weenie you'd think he was a Democrat ;-)

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mpm

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May 29, 2008, 9:41:18 PM5/29/08

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On May 29, 9:17�pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
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I still use Google Groups for reading SED.
I know, I know... I should get with the program. Literally.

Jim Thompson

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May 29, 2008, 10:23:48 PM5/29/08

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On Thu, 29 May 2008 18:41:18 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmi...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On May 29, 9:17?pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-

>Web-Site.com>
>
>I still use Google Groups for reading SED.
>I know, I know... I should get with the program. Literally.

No problem...

* Score:-40 From:...|(mpm)|... ;-)

Richard Henry

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May 30, 2008, 3:50:51 AM5/30/08

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On May 29, 6:17 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:50:38 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmill...@aol.com>

> wrote:
>
> >On May 29, 12:11?pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
> >Web-Site.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
>
> >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ...Jim Thompson
>
> [snip - why can't your newsreader follow the rules for sig snipping?
>
>
>
> >So, would you include Scott McClellan in the "angry white man"
> >category?
> >-mpm
>
> Not hardly. He's an incompetent opportunist. Have you seen him in
> action? He's such a weenie you'd think he was a Democrat ;-)

I notice no one has called him a liar yet.

Bo

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May 30, 2008, 2:37:39 PM5/30/08

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message news:q8lu34563c07nh8vt...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 29 May 2008 17:50:38 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmi...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 12:11?pm, Jim Thompson
>><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
>>Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ...Jim Thompson
>>
> [snip - why can't your newsreader follow the rules for sig snipping?
>>
>>So, would you include Scott McClellan in the "angry white man"
>>category?
>>-mpm
>
> Not hardly. He's an incompetent opportunist. Have you seen him in
> action? He's such a weenie you'd think he was a Democrat ;-)
>

Funny that you used the word opportunist. That is the exact same word
both my wife & I used last night when we saw the news clip about him.
Funny to see him explaining what a ungrate/opportunist Richard Clarke
was. How ironic that he bashed Clarke for waiting 18 mo to speak up
when he himself waited 18 mo too. I think its Scott 'show me the book
money' McClellan....I guess once the money potential was high enough,
the vast left-wing conspiracy finally sucked him in.... What a dweeb!

Bo

Michael Robinson

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May 30, 2008, 3:48:11 PM5/30/08

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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in

message news:3clt34tfnkn3fnrnk...@4ax.com...
> http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
>
> ...Jim Thompson

"angry white man" = victimology.
See Nietzsche on _ressentiment_.

The angry white man reassigns his own sense of inferiority onto an enemy
that he can blame. This leads to a desire for revenge. This weak man is
reactionary. A stronger man doesn't have time to dwell on all that has been
done to him.

Jim Thompson

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May 30, 2008, 5:48:51 PM5/30/08

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That's a good word, "dweeb"!

Sleep soundly tonight... infuriate a leftist weenie ;-)

Don Bowey

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May 30, 2008, 8:02:11 PM5/30/08

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On 5/30/08 2:48 PM, in article 9gt0445v0ea5053lc...@4ax.com,
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Dweeb (noun)

Somebody who is considered to be
boring, silly, or socially inept.

(slang insult)

Sure sounds like you, Thompson. It's good that you like the sound of it.

Ben Bradley

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May 30, 2008, 10:43:24 PM5/30/08

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On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:11:09 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
>
> ...Jim Thompson

I got to this part:

"His background might be Italian, English, Polish,"

which seemed awfully familiar (I suspect I heard a 'right wingnut'
read it on the radio), so I googled it and got LOTS of hits. I at
first suspected he stole it, but that Feb. 8th date is the earliest of
any of the articles I saw (admittedly only a few of the "about 2,500"
hits), and several others attributed it to Hubbell, so I have no doubt
he actually wrote it.

Here in this March 19 column it's repeated and credited, and is said
to be traveling the Internet at "warp speed:"
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_124169.asp

In this page (scroll down near the end or search the page for Small
Town Soapbox, Monday 2/18/2008), it got rewritten and 'sanitised' to
"ANGRY AMERICAN:"
http://www.mobyinthemorning.com/soapmonday.cfm
Looks like Moby doesn't have the testicular fortitude (or is it
stupidity?) of many other commentators who repeated it verbatim.

Okay, enough non-electronic posting...

JosephKK

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May 31, 2008, 12:12:02 AM5/31/08

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On Thu, 29 May 2008 18:41:18 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmi...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On May 29, 9:17?pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-

>Web-Site.com>
>
>I still use Google Groups for reading SED.
>I know, I know... I should get with the program. Literally.

So just who is your ISP (assuming you have one)? Do they not have
their own news servers? Outhouse Express beats nothing. There are
plenty of better freebies.

Jim Thompson

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May 31, 2008, 11:20:22 AM5/31/08

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On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:24 -0400, Ben Bradley
<ben_u_...@etcmail.com> wrote:

[snip]
>
>Okay, enough non-electronic posting...

I keep harping for someone to post a real circuit problem... you know,
something more invigorating than "My LED won't blink" ;-)

But it ain't gone'a happen :-(

Liberalism is a persistent vegetative state

JosephKK

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May 31, 2008, 1:56:43 PM5/31/08

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I would rather infuriate a (f)rightwing weenie, it is slightly more
challenging.

JosephKK

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May 31, 2008, 2:01:41 PM5/31/08

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On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:24 -0400, Ben Bradley
<ben_u_...@etcmail.com> wrote:

Both right and left wingnut are at least ten years old. Try searching
GG for Widewing.

krw

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May 31, 2008, 7:26:38 PM5/31/08

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In article <91r244dlffve15430...@4ax.com>, To-Email-
Use-The-En...@My-Web-Site.com says...

> On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:24 -0400, Ben Bradley
> <ben_u_...@etcmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> >Okay, enough non-electronic posting...
>
> I keep harping for someone to post a real circuit problem... you know,
> something more invigorating than "My LED won't blink" ;-)

Right. We don't need an more blinkin' LED problems.

> But it ain't gone'a happen :-(

Yours won't either?

--
Keith

Michael A. Terrell

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Jun 1, 2008, 2:29:22 PM6/1/08

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Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:24 -0400, Ben Bradley
> <ben_u_...@etcmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> >
> >Okay, enough non-electronic posting...
>
> I keep harping for someone to post a real circuit problem... you know,
> something more invigorating than "My LED won't blink" ;-)

They have a pill for that. I've seen the spam.

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Jim Thompson

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Jun 1, 2008, 2:44:51 PM6/1/08

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On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:29:22 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:24 -0400, Ben Bradley
>> <ben_u_...@etcmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>> >
>> >Okay, enough non-electronic posting...
>>
>> I keep harping for someone to post a real circuit problem... you know,
>> something more invigorating than "My LED won't blink" ;-)
>
>
> They have a pill for that. I've seen the spam.

My nose keeps running ;-)

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Jun 2, 2008, 5:33:16 AM6/2/08

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On 31/05/2008 Jim Thompson wrote:

.
.

.
> I keep harping for someone to post a real circuit problem... you know,
> something more invigorating than "My LED won't blink" ;-)
>
> But it ain't gone'a happen :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Harp no more. I just built a prototype of this circuit:

http://www.rcrowley.com/comclone/Schematic.htm

but I can't get the microphone amplifier to work. I have access to an
oscilloscope (Telequipment D54!!!) but don't have SPICE, so can't
simulate it. My suspicion is that there is too much gain for a single
stage amp.

The whole circuit seems rather more complicated that it needs to be and
any help to simplify it would be greatly appreciated.

--
John B

Jim Thompson

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Jun 2, 2008, 10:41:03 AM6/2/08

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On 02 Jun 2008 09:33:16 GMT, "John B"
<spamj_ba...@blockerzetnet.co.uk> wrote:

Certainly qualifies for "weird" ;-)

Check the bias ("Q" points) and report.

Jim Thompson

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Jun 2, 2008, 10:49:00 AM6/2/08

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On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:41:03 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

>On 02 Jun 2008 09:33:16 GMT, "John B"
><spamj_ba...@blockerzetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 31/05/2008 Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>> I keep harping for someone to post a real circuit problem... you know,
>>> something more invigorating than "My LED won't blink" ;-)
>>>
>>> But it ain't gone'a happen :-(
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>Harp no more. I just built a prototype of this circuit:
>>
>>http://www.rcrowley.com/comclone/Schematic.htm
>>
>>but I can't get the microphone amplifier to work. I have access to an
>>oscilloscope (Telequipment D54!!!) but don't have SPICE, so can't
>>simulate it. My suspicion is that there is too much gain for a single
>>stage amp.
>>
>>The whole circuit seems rather more complicated that it needs to be and
>>any help to simplify it would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Certainly qualifies for "weird" ;-)
>
>Check the bias ("Q" points) and report.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

I'm pressed for time right now, but it looks like it should be using
an ELECTRET microphone??

Martin Griffith

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Jun 2, 2008, 12:13:59 PM6/2/08

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On 02 Jun 2008 09:33:16 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "John B"
<spamj_ba...@blockerzetnet.co.uk> wrote:

It's basically a clone of the Clearcom intercom system, and their
circuits are always this messy, they do strange things with DC
signaling. All the capacitors are to fiddle the response of the
hybrid, I assume they got it wrong in the first place.
You should use an electret mic, (or even carbon can be catered for)

Despite the wierdness, their system does work quite well, I've used it
on many shows.
They have/had many circuits/ service manuals on their site.

Why are you trying to build this particular circuit?

martin

John B

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Jun 2, 2008, 12:35:19 PM6/2/08

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Ah, I didn't think of that. I have a dynamic mic attached at present
but have a couple of cheapo PC headsets that I can try.

--
John B

John B

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Jun 2, 2008, 12:55:19 PM6/2/08

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On 02/06/2008 Martin Griffith wrote:

.
.

.
> It's basically a clone of the Clearcom intercom system, and their
> circuits are always this messy, they do strange things with DC
> signaling. All the capacitors are to fiddle the response of the
> hybrid, I assume they got it wrong in the first place.
> You should use an electret mic, (or even carbon can be catered for)
>
> Despite the wierdness, their system does work quite well, I've used it
> on many shows.
> They have/had many circuits/ service manuals on their site.
>
> Why are you trying to build this particular circuit?
>
>
>
> martin

I'm trying to build a couple of extra beltpacks for a Techpro system,
which gets used in several of our village halls. It seemed like a good
idea at the time, but is proving to be more of a challenge than I
imagined.

I did try searching for suitable schematics, but this is the only one I
could find. I've tried it with an AV headset and a standard Techpro
one, both of which use dynamic mics; but hadn't thought of using an
electret. I've got a PC compatible headset with an electret mic, so
I'll try that next. If that works, I'll stick a common base impedence
buffer on the input and see what happens with the dynamic mic.

I thought the frequency shaping around the mic amp and the hybrid was a
bit overcomplicated. However the DC signalling part does work with both
Techpro and Stonewood beltpacks. I don't have access to a Clearcom one
to try that.

--
John B

Martin Griffith

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Jun 2, 2008, 1:20:38 PM6/2/08

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On 02 Jun 2008 16:55:19 GMT, in sci.electronics.design "John B"
<spamj_ba...@blockerzetnet.co.uk> wrote:

Try the electret first,before replacing with a tranny

You could also just get the boards, save a lot of hassle
http://www.rcrowley.com/comclone/BoardSource.htm

martin

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

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Jun 2, 2008, 2:08:35 PM6/2/08

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On Sat, 31 May 2008 10:56:43 -0700, JosephKK wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2008 14:48:51 -0700, Jim Thompson

>>On Fri, 30 May 2008 13:37:39 -0500, "Bo" <b...@cephus.com> wrote:

>>>left-wing conspiracy finally sucked him in.... What a dweeb!
>>>

>>That's a good word, "dweeb"!
>>
>>Sleep soundly tonight... infuriate a leftist weenie ;-)
>

> I would rather infuriate a (f)rightwing weenie, it is slightly more
> challenging.

Nah, just tell them Cheney is a Nazi, and Bush is nothing but a sock
puppet. They hate it when you tell the truth about their idols. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich