How to profit from the 47%

[hamilton]

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[brent]

On Oct 6, 12:16 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:
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Rather than using poor people the comic should have said aborted
fetuses.
That would far closer to how libs think.

[Bill Sloman]

Interesting to get an idea of how a right-wing nitwit sees the world -
or rather sees a world that he has imagined with a little bit of help
from the dafter aspects 0f Fox News...

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[brent]

The left projects onto the right a desire to kill. The left actually
does kill.

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 6, 6:47 pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 12:44 pm, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 6, 6:28 pm, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 6, 12:16 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:
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> > > >http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/10000...
>
> > > Rather than using poor people  the comic should have said aborted
> > > fetuses.
> > > That would far closer to how libs think.
>
> > Interesting to get an idea of how a right-wing nitwit sees the world -
> > or rather sees a world that he has imagined with a little bit of help

> > from the dafter aspects of Fox News...

>
> The left projects onto the right a desire to kill.  The left actually
> does kill.

Megalomanic dictators kill people. Mao and Stalin had more people
available to kill than Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Pinochet, but
they would have killed just as many if they been right wing idiots
rather than left wing idiots.

Modern socialist governments in advanced industrial countries don't
kill people - give or take the occasional Somali pirate.

The US and Russia are less inhibited.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 6, 6:16 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:
> http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/10000...

That's probably not the 47% that Romney was referring to.

When you consider that the life expectancy in the US is about 78
years, and the average person doesn't start earning a taxable income
until they turn 18, and stops when they turn 65, 40% of that 47% are
people who are going to pay taxes when they grow up or have paid taxes
and are now retired.

Some 40% of the US population gets into tertiary education, which
knocks another three years off their tax-paying period. which accounts
for another 1.5% of the "dead-heads" and American mothers tend to stop
work for a year or two while they have kids - say four years for the
two kids per mother that would sustain the population, adding an other
2.6%.

That gets us up to 44%. There's a certain irreducible level of
unemployment - even if everybody got a new job after losing their old
one, it doesn't happen instantly.

So Romney was actually bitching about 2% of the population. 5% of the
population needs psychiatric care at some point in their lives so he
would have pretty much bitching about the human condition if he and
his audience had had the wit to run the numbers.

Republicans are very selective about the numbers they pay attention
to.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[brent]

Hitler was a gun grabbing, crony capitalist lefty.

[John Larkin]

He was just being rational. He said that people who don't work are
unlikely to vote for Republicans. You don't work, and you wouldn't
vote Republican.


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[Bill Sloman]

> Hitler was a gun grabbing, crony capitalist lefty.

He may look left wing to you - you seem to be to the right of
everybody except possibly Jim Yarnik - but the rest of the world sees
him as a right-winger. He got a lot of support from Henry Ford, and
the German equivalents of Henry Ford, in part because he promised to
crack down on communists and trade unionists. A lot of Henry Ford's
enthusiasm came from the fact that he too was an anti-Semitic fruit
cake, but Henry Ford was also violently anti-trade-union.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 7, 4:37 pm, John Larkin

I voted for the British Labour Part all time I lived in the U.K., when
I was in work, and being paid about twice the average UK industrial
wage, so your logic doesn't actually work.

And Romney wasn't being all that rational. Of that 47% who don't have
a taxable income, the under-18s - roughly 23% of the population -
don't have a vote anyway. The over 65s do have a vote, and utilise it
more enthusiastically than younger people

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/olderstats.htm

so he'd be better off thinking about issue that are important to them,
like Medicare, no matter how distasteful they are to the lunatic
fringe - aka core membership - of the Tea Party.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[John Larkin]

NEEP NEEP NEEP

Dang, you set off all the logical fallacy detectors, and I'm going to
have to go around and reset them all.

[Bill Sloman]

On Oct 7, 7:39 pm, John Larkin

Rubbish. If you had logical fallacy detectors that worked, you'd be
deaf.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

[dagmarg...@yahoo.com]

I think we ought to grind up rich people and eat them, then share
their stuff.

Everyone who's worked twenty, thirty, or forty years of double-shifts
to build up something for their families--to make jobs and employ
people--every selfish person with that level of drive, ambition and
self-sacrifice to the altar of productivity should be eliminated.
It's for the common good.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

[Bill Sloman]

A modest proposal, but Jonathan Swift did it first, and trifle more
deftly. You should also take a look at "The Shortest-Way with the
Dissenters" by Daniel Defoe. That was at least subtle enough that
quite a few of the people he was satirising took it seriously.

You really should have included some kind of vaguely plausible
rationalisation.

Your slightly more subtle comic piece where you purported to argue
that because the median income is declining under Obama, the economy
isn't actually recovering had the right level of irrationality, but
failed as satire because you didn't manage to make it clear that the
average income was rising - because of the efforts of the Tea Party in
Congress, who have contrived to ensure that all the economic growth
has gone to the top 5% of the income distribution (it's probably
actually been concentrated even closer the the high end of the
distribution, but the top 5% does include them).

Satire has to include some hint that it is actually satirical - what
you originally wrote was indistinguishable from naive Republican
boosterism. "Median income" was the giveaway but that could easily
have been an unconscious revelation.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen