OT: Problems with Mozilla Firefox
Jim Thompson
On some pages the QuickTime symbol pops up, then changes to
"broken"... no big deal, I rarely care.
But this morning I went to IRF.com and got a repetitively blinking
QuickTime symbol and lock-up of Firefox. I had to use TaskManager to
get it to stop.
I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
Ideas? Suggestion?
Thanks!
...Jim Thompson
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<snip>
> I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
>
> Ideas? Suggestion?
It looks to me like irf.com has a macromedia flash thingy on their home
page, no quicktime stuff that I can see. You might want to look into
that.
Jim Thompson
TaskManager DID say that some kind of Flash thingy was running and not
responding... but QuickTime was going wild too :-(
Gareth
> I have some problems with Mozilla Firefox that I can't figure out.
>
> On some pages the QuickTime symbol pops up, then changes to
> "broken"... no big deal, I rarely care.
>
> But this morning I went to IRF.com and got a repetitively blinking
> QuickTime symbol and lock-up of Firefox. I had to use TaskManager to
> get it to stop.
>
> I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
I use Firefox and I don't have any trouble with irf.com.
Do you have the latest version of Firefox? Version 1.0.3 was released
recently.
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PaulCsouls
<thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>I have some problems with Mozilla Firefox that I can't figure out.
>
>On some pages the QuickTime symbol pops up, then changes to
>"broken"... no big deal, I rarely care.
>
>But this morning I went to IRF.com and got a repetitively blinking
>QuickTime symbol and lock-up of Firefox. I had to use TaskManager to
>get it to stop.
>
>I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
>
>Ideas? Suggestion?
>
>Thanks!
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Check with the web forum. If you did find a bug I'm sure they would
like to know.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=38
Paul C
John Larkin
<thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:28:24 GMT, "Anthony Fremont"
><sp...@anywhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim Thompson"
>><snip>
>>> I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
>>>
>>> Ideas? Suggestion?
>>
>>It looks to me like irf.com has a macromedia flash thingy on their home
>>page, no quicktime stuff that I can see. You might want to look into
>>that.
>
>TaskManager DID say that some kind of Flash thingy was running and not
>responding... but QuickTime was going wild too :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson
One of the loadable extensions lets you skip Flash cartoons and only
view them if you want. Another one disables animated gifs. Both very
soothing.
But I can't get any of the form managers to work; very annoying.
Netscape did this well.
John
Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com)
> I have some problems with Mozilla Firefox that I can't figure out.
> On some pages the QuickTime symbol pops up, then changes to
> "broken"... no big deal, I rarely care.
> But this morning I went to IRF.com and got a repetitively blinking
> QuickTime symbol and lock-up of Firefox. I had to use TaskManager to
> get it to stop.
> I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
> Ideas? Suggestion?
> Thanks!
> ...Jim Thompson
There appears to be a problem with your Macromedia Flash Player plug-in.
Make sure you get the latest from Macromedia. Works with Flash 7 just fine
on my PC.
Make sure you get the latest update for Firefox, too. They have just
posted a critical one.
More info here:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html
Good luck!
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Jim Thompson
info_at_cabling...@foo.com (Dmitri(Cabling-Design.com))
wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> I have some problems with Mozilla Firefox that I can't figure out.
>
>> On some pages the QuickTime symbol pops up, then changes to
>> "broken"... no big deal, I rarely care.
>
>> But this morning I went to IRF.com and got a repetitively blinking
>> QuickTime symbol and lock-up of Firefox. I had to use TaskManager to
>> get it to stop.
>
>> I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
>
>> Ideas? Suggestion?
>
>> Thanks!
>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>There appears to be a problem with your Macromedia Flash Player plug-in.
>Make sure you get the latest from Macromedia. Works with Flash 7 just fine
>on my PC.
>
>Make sure you get the latest update for Firefox, too. They have just
>posted a critical one.
>More info here:
>http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html
>
>Good luck!
I just downloaded and installed Firefox 1.03... no change in the hang
at IRF.com
I'm showing Shockwave Flash 7.0r19 as an enabled plug-in
Is that the correct plug-in?
I note that 10 different DLL's for Quicktime are enabled.
I also note that the Mozilla Default Plug-in is NOT enabled ??
legg
<thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>I have some problems with Mozilla Firefox that I can't figure out.
>
>On some pages the QuickTime symbol pops up, then changes to
>"broken"... no big deal, I rarely care.
>
>But this morning I went to IRF.com and got a repetitively blinking
>QuickTime symbol and lock-up of Firefox. I had to use TaskManager to
>get it to stop.
>
>I was able to go to IRF.com with IE without incident.
>
>Ideas? Suggestion?
>
>Thanks!
>
> ...Jim Thompson
IR has been pretty good at keeping their site compatible with old
browsers.
Netscape 4.72 has no problems - but is redirected through 'nsw'
non-flashy pages.
Mozilla 1.3.1 sees the flashy 'sw' pages, same as IE5 and 6.
RL
Joerg
No problems with both Mozilla 1.6 and 1.7.3. It does show this stupid
flash logo for about a second and then proceeds to the IRF home page.
Going to app notes and other areas does not repeat the flash episode. I
don't have flash since I consider that superficial glitz.
A while ago I tried the separate tools Firefox and Thunderbird. Wasn't
happy and went back to the integrated browser. Much more stable. I have
no idea why they started to leave the integrated approach, it just
doesn't make any sense to me.
Regards, Joerg
Jim Thompson
Where does one get Mozilla?
Joerg
> Where does one get Mozilla?
Aquí:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/
Regards, Joerg
John Larkin
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
I'm using Firefox and Tbird under XP/SP2 and they both work great.
Thunderbird does some cool stuff, like display mail by properties
(like: Has Attachment or Unread) and searches mail about 100x faster
than Netscape did.
The downloadable Firefox extensions are cool, too; many web annoyances
can be zapped. I don't have Flash installed, but they do have an
optional Flash manager, only shows a flash box if you open it.
John
Jim Thompson
It does the same barf as Firefox, so I must have some problem with
Flash or Quicktime :-(
Joerg
> I'm using Firefox and Tbird under XP/SP2 and they both work great.
> Thunderbird does some cool stuff, like display mail by properties
> (like: Has Attachment or Unread) and searches mail about 100x faster
> than Netscape did.
>
> The downloadable Firefox extensions are cool, too; many web annoyances
> can be zapped. I don't have Flash installed, but they do have an
> optional Flash manager, only shows a flash box if you open it.
Some features are sure cool but I found the suite to be more stable. And
it does all I really need.
The main advantage of an integrated solution to me is the composer. I
collect some info in the form of a Wiki. For that I must be able to
write info just as it comes into linked local HTML pages. At the same
time I must be able to see and browse them, including the one I am just
writing to. Without an integrated suite I found that to be next to
impossible.
Regards, Joerg
Joerg
> It does the same barf as Firefox, so I must have some problem with
> Flash or Quicktime :-(
Seems like it. I don't have them. Quicktime came with my new PC but it
was the first thing to be booted off the island.
Also, make sure you don't have any suspicious "helper applications"
listed under edit - preferences - navigator.
Under edit- preferences - advanced - script&plug-ins you could try
disabling plug-ins. Maybe that would help.
Regards, Joerg
John Larkin
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>The main advantage of an integrated solution to me is the composer. I
>collect some info in the form of a Wiki. For that I must be able to
>write info just as it comes into linked local HTML pages. At the same
>time I must be able to see and browse them, including the one I am just
>writing to. Without an integrated suite I found that to be next to
>impossible.
>
>Regards, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com
But I really appreciate the irresponsibility of being able to use my
browser without being reminded that I have 45 emails stacked up
demanding my attention.
John
Jim Thompson
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>Hello Jim,
>
>> It does the same barf as Firefox, so I must have some problem with
>> Flash or Quicktime :-(
>
>Seems like it. I don't have them. Quicktime came with my new PC but it
>was the first thing to be booted off the island.
I'm considering that. Started to boot it and got a message about it
being potentially dangerous to delete everything, including
"extensions".
Are there potential problems or is it just BS?
>
>Also, make sure you don't have any suspicious "helper applications"
>listed under edit - preferences - navigator.
>
>Under edit- preferences - advanced - script&plug-ins you could try
>disabling plug-ins. Maybe that would help.
>
>Regards, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com
I already pulled Mozilla. I did try disabling all plug-ins in
Firefox, but it didn't help.
Jim Thompson
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>Hello Jim,
>
>> It does the same barf as Firefox, so I must have some problem with
>> Flash or Quicktime :-(
>
>Seems like it. I don't have them. Quicktime came with my new PC but it
>was the first thing to be booted off the island.
>
[snip]
>
>Regards, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com
I booted Quicktime completely "off the island"... ALL problems went
away. MAC CRAP ;-)
martin griffith
Sorry, but this seemed somewhat apt.
http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050424.html
martin
After the first death, there is no other.
(Dylan Thomas)
Carl D. Smith
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>A while ago I tried the separate tools Firefox and Thunderbird. Wasn't
>happy and went back to the integrated browser. Much more stable. I have
>no idea why they started to leave the integrated approach, it just
>doesn't make any sense to me.
On my system, I've found the exact opposite to be true. I used
to use Mozilla, and got tired of it crashing every second day or
so, so I downloaded and installed Firefox. After switching, I
recently got a run of 18 days of up time without Firefox or XP
crashing, which is a record for me. And I had Firefox open that
whole 18 days. The random OS crashes that I couldn't correlate
to anything in particular have almost stopped as well.
Don Pearce
I'm currently using Firefox on Xandros (a Linux variant) and that PC
has been running for a month or so without rebooting.
d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
Joerg
> I booted Quicktime completely "off the island"... ALL problems went
> away. MAC CRAP ;-)
Way to go. I don't know how serious these warnings are. SW makers try to
create a fear in us that the whole world is going to implode if we take
their SW off the PC.
Even with cookie deletion I had that. "Your PC might not function
properly or at all if you click Yes.... blah, blah, blah". I got pretty
good in ignoring that stuff.
Regards, Joerg
Joerg
> But I really appreciate the irresponsibility of being able to use my
> browser without being reminded that I have 45 emails stacked up
> demanding my attention.
AFAIK that can be done with Mozilla by not enabling "Check email server
every x many minutes for mail". Then it should only show anything when
you deliberately open mail and after clicking "Get Msgs".
I usually like that feature though, especially when waiting for feedback
from a client after I sent them a schematic. It's just a small blue
message blurb, no sound (I disabled these) and not in the browser window.
Regards, Joerg
Jim Thompson
Everything is AOK now.
I got the Quicktime "courtesy" of the iTunes installation when I got
myself an iPOD along with the ones I bought for the grandkids (and one
daughter) at Christmas.
Didn't note any particular problem until I installed Firefox.
Although, come to think of it, the TIFF viewer (AlternaTIFF) for the
USPTO site started acting flaky even with IE.
Jim Thompson
Why is it that anyone would even want an "integrated" tool? Sounds
like jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none ;-)
I use Eudora v3.0.5 for E-mail, Agent v1.93 for News and Firefox v1.03
to browse.
Michael A. Terrell
>
> Although, come to think of it, the TIFF viewer (AlternaTIFF) for the
> USPTO site started acting flaky even with IE.
>
The last time I had to use for some crappy file Quicktime change
attributes to itself for any file it can open, without asking permission
during installation. I had to manually change everything back the way I
wanted, and I dumped QT.
--
Former professional electron wrangler.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Lord Garth
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Jim Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Although, come to think of it, the TIFF viewer (AlternaTIFF) for the
> > USPTO site started acting flaky even with IE.
> >
> > Jim Thompson
>
>
> The last time I had to use for some crappy file Quicktime change
> attributes to itself for any file it can open, without asking permission
> during installation. I had to manually change everything back the way I
> wanted, and I dumped QT.
>
You know, that's just like the WMP install, I deselect .wav files and then
it
goes ahead and re-associates them anyway. Yeah, like I want to load a 8MB
plus player for a 32k sound file! I re-associate these with sndrec32 and
if
some S.O.B. has turned on the 'protect' function for a file they don't own,
well
that's just fodder for the trash can.
Joerg
> I got the Quicktime "courtesy" of the iTunes installation when I got
> myself an iPOD along with the ones I bought for the grandkids (and one
> daughter) at Christmas.
Now I start to feel old. Everybody seems to have an iPod these days.
Even our president does. I just can't bring myself to wearing some gizmo
that plays music. Never had a walkman or discman either.
However, we have a piano that sounds just like the ones in the old
saloons and is about as old, then a guitar and a Hammond organ. None of
these can read MP3...
Regards, Joerg
Joerg
> Why is it that anyone would even want an "integrated" tool? Sounds
> like jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none ;-)
Creature comfort I guess. Probably for the same reason that people buy
cars such as pickups and Burbans. Hauls the family, hauls lots of stuff,
hauls the firewood, pretty much everything.
My expectations with respect to software are modest. It doesn't need to
be master. Integration allows Wiki storage. Everytime I tried that with
separate SW for read and write I either couldn't do both at the same
time or the PC would hang if I accessed the same file, which you have to
with a Wiki.
With CAD it's similar. I love Cadsoft Eagle. If you find that something
doesn't pan out too well in the layout or could pose an EMI issue you
can change it right then. No need to edit and run a new netlist. It'll
keep schematic and layout in sync at all times.
Regards, Joerg
Jim Thompson
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>Hello Jim,
>
>> I got the Quicktime "courtesy" of the iTunes installation when I got
>> myself an iPOD along with the ones I bought for the grandkids (and one
>> daughter) at Christmas.
>
>Now I start to feel old. Everybody seems to have an iPod these days.
>Even our president does. I just can't bring myself to wearing some gizmo
>that plays music. Never had a walkman or discman either.
I got the iPOD for myself, to listen to books. When I'm flying it's
virtually impossible to get enough knee room to do any work on the
PC... unless I'm Europe-bound, then I fly Business Class. So I listen
to books... "da Vinci Code" right now... but I don't use those damned
little button ear pieces... I use active noise canceling earphones
that cover my ears ;-)
If I want to listen to music I go fire up the 300-CD "juke box" ;-)
>
>However, we have a piano that sounds just like the ones in the old
>saloons and is about as old, then a guitar and a Hammond organ. None of
>these can read MP3...
>
>Regards, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com
Jim Thompson
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>Hello Jim,
>
>> Why is it that anyone would even want an "integrated" tool? Sounds
>> like jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none ;-)
>
>Creature comfort I guess. Probably for the same reason that people buy
>cars such as pickups and Burbans. Hauls the family, hauls lots of stuff,
>hauls the firewood, pretty much everything.
I have a peek-up truck for hauling, and a Q45 for driving ;-)
>
>My expectations with respect to software are modest. It doesn't need to
>be master. Integration allows Wiki storage. Everytime I tried that with
>separate SW for read and write I either couldn't do both at the same
>time or the PC would hang if I accessed the same file, which you have to
>with a Wiki.
What's a "Wiki"?
>
>With CAD it's similar. I love Cadsoft Eagle. If you find that something
>doesn't pan out too well in the layout or could pose an EMI issue you
>can change it right then. No need to edit and run a new netlist. It'll
>keep schematic and layout in sync at all times.
>
>Regards, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com
That's why I'm sort of married to PSpice... comfort, and I don't have
to learn a new tool.
If I can organize a BBQ here next Fall I'll show you what a REAL tool
can do (with some embellishments from me and my oldest son :-)
Joerg
> I have a peek-up truck for hauling, and a Q45 for driving ;-)
Country folk out here often do with just one vehicle. Either a crew cab
full size truck with dual tires, Cummins turbo, illuminated running
boards and the whole works, or just a "Texas Cadillac". It used to be
the El Camino but that doesn't really work for people with lots of kids.
> What's a "Wiki"?
In this case just an "internal web site" where information I come across
is entered and browsed at the same time. Wiki is, I believe, Hawaiian
for "quick" since it is pretty much the fastest way to collect technical
information and have it available instantly. The term is often used on
the web for sites where everyone can browse and contribute.
> That's why I'm sort of married to PSpice... comfort, and I don't have
> to learn a new tool.
I would, too. Don't mess with a running system...
> If I can organize a BBQ here next Fall I'll show you what a REAL tool
> can do (with some embellishments from me and my oldest son :-)
That sounds great.
Now I'll have to tend to the Weber over here. We'll have ribs tonight,
rain or shine. Plus a Merlot and later a Spaten Optimator Bock.
Regards, Joerg
Jim Thompson
Joerg, Aren't you in the Nevada City/Grass Valley area?
_Potentially_ I will have a new Sacramento client in the next week or
so, so I might be up that way.
Barry Jones
You're so . . . analog!
--
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Mark
Mark
John Larkin
<thegr...@example.com> wrote:
>
>What's a "Wiki"?
>
This is interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
There's a lot of really useful stuff here. I'd contribute, but the
authoring stuff is, so far, unintelligable to me.
John
Chuck Harris
Don't feel bad! You might actually be doing yourself a favor by not
getting involved with mp3. There is more than a little scuttlebutt going around
the medical circles about how mp3 is bad for your hearing. The reasoning is
that mp3 gains its compression by deleting quieter sounds that are supposedly
masked by louder sounds. This apparently messes with the ear's mechanism for
protecting itself against damage from loud sounds, and damage is done.
Just because the quieter sounds (that are deleted) aren't consciously perceived
doesn't mean that they aren't being heard.
-Chuck
John Woodgate
<cf-NO-SP...@erols.com> wrote (in
<dKqdnZxZtZS...@rcn.net>) about 'OT: Problems with Mozilla
Firefox', on Sun, 24 Apr 2005:
>There is more than a little scuttlebutt going around
>the medical circles about how mp3 is bad for your hearing. The reasoning is
>that mp3 gains its compression by deleting quieter sounds that are supposedly
>masked by louder sounds. This apparently messes with the ear's mechanism for
>protecting itself against damage from loud sounds, and damage is done.
Can you cite any papers or web articles, please? At first sight, and
even at second, this sounds daft. The audio waveform has a **single**
value at any instant and deleting a quieter sound 20 dB down just
reduces the waveform amplitude by 10% = 1 dB.
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robin...@tesco.net
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:28:17 GMT, Joerg
> <notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Hello Jim,
> >
> >No problems with both Mozilla 1.6 and 1.7.3. It does show this stupid
> >flash logo for about a second and then proceeds to the IRF home page.
> >Going to app notes and other areas does not repeat the flash episode. I
> >don't have flash since I consider that superficial glitz.
> >
> >A while ago I tried the separate tools Firefox and Thunderbird. Wasn't
> >happy and went back to the integrated browser. Much more stable. I have
> >no idea why they started to leave the integrated approach, it just
> >doesn't make any sense to me.
> >
> >
> >http://www.analogconsultants.com
>
>
> Thunderbird does some cool stuff, like display mail by properties
> (like: Has Attachment or Unread) and searches mail about 100x faster
> than Netscape did.
>
> The downloadable Firefox extensions are cool, too; many web annoyances
> can be zapped. I don't have Flash installed, but they do have an
> optional Flash manager, only shows a flash box if you open it.
>
Firefox is worth it for it's control-F alone.
Combine that with a few control-Ts and it's easy to cross-refer documentation.
Cheers
Robin
Chuck Harris
> I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Chuck Harris
> <cf-NO-SP...@erols.com> wrote (in
> <dKqdnZxZtZS...@rcn.net>) about 'OT: Problems with Mozilla
> Firefox', on Sun, 24 Apr 2005:
>
>> There is more than a little scuttlebutt going around
>> the medical circles about how mp3 is bad for your hearing. The
>> reasoning is
>> that mp3 gains its compression by deleting quieter sounds that are
>> supposedly
>> masked by louder sounds. This apparently messes with the ear's
>> mechanism for
>> protecting itself against damage from loud sounds, and damage is done.
>
>
> Can you cite any papers or web articles, please? At first sight, and
> even at second, this sounds daft. The audio waveform has a **single**
> value at any instant and deleting a quieter sound 20 dB down just
> reduces the waveform amplitude by 10% = 1 dB.
Honestly John, have you ever heard of google?
get onto google, and enter "MP3 Hearing damage"
-Chuck
John Woodgate
Firefox', on Mon, 25 Apr 2005:
>Honestly John, have you ever heard of google?
>
>get onto google, and enter "MP3 Hearing damage"
Yes, but you said 'medical circles'. Stuff like that often isn't found
by Google even if it's on the web at all.
Chuck Harris
> I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Chuck Harris
> <cf-NO-SP...@erols.com> wrote (in
> <meKdnZhgh4E...@rcn.net>) about 'OT: Problems with Mozilla
> Firefox', on Mon, 25 Apr 2005:
>
>> Honestly John, have you ever heard of google?
>>
>> get onto google, and enter "MP3 Hearing damage"
>
>
> Yes, but you said 'medical circles'. Stuff like that often isn't found
> by Google even if it's on the web at all.
John, do the google. The first site you find will be from a german
medical paper on the subject. I think your curiosity will be satisfied.
There are hundereds of hits to that simple search.
-Chuck
Jim Thompson
>where do you get audio books to download to an ipod?
>
>Mark
Actually the book was bought for me as a Christmas gift, on CD. I
loaded it onto the iPod through iTunes.
Joerg
> You're so . . . analog!
Not always. When I restored that old piano I had to rebuild some of the
damping lever mechanisms using wood and deer leather. I'd consider these
digital features: They muffle the strings instantly after a key is
released, unless this function is "gated off" by pressing a pedal.
Regards, Joerg
John Woodgate
<cf-NO-SP...@erols.com> wrote (in
<mrqdncEOg6G...@rcn.net>) about 'OT: Problems with Mozilla
>John, do the google. The first site you find will be from a german
>medical paper on the subject. I think your curiosity will be
>satisfied.
The first three are all the same rant from a kook. He even admits that
he has no evidence of any effect, and then claims 'fatal consequences'.
It destroys one's faith in freedom of speech.
>
>There are hundereds of hits to that simple search.
I didn't find any that presented any credible evidence. Most of them
were only about MP3 alone or hearing damage alone. Several of the pages
on hearing damage alone are shrill, alarmist and inaccurate; I can tell
that the writer does not know the subject in depth.
This one is reliable, in fact the whole site is very good (and no, it
isn't run by my brother):
http://www.headwize.com/articles/hearing_art.htm
Joerg
> Joerg, Aren't you in the Nevada City/Grass Valley area?
Close: In Cameron Park, Highway 50 about 30 miles east of Sacramento.
Drop me a line or call (530 672 1657) when you know your itinerary, at
least we should be able to meet somewhere.
> _Potentially_ I will have a new Sacramento client in the next week or
> so, so I might be up that way.
If this happens to be Gordon Moore's old company that would only be ten
miles from here.
Regards, Joerg
Joerg
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> There's a lot of really useful stuff here. I'd contribute, but the
> authoring stuff is, so far, unintelligable to me.
Usually you just click on "edit this page" and add your contributions to
the end of the text window.
For a local Wiki that's not so helpful though since EE-Wikis will
contain stuff like schematics.
Regards, Joerg
Chuck Harris
> I read in sci.electronics.design that Chuck Harris
> <cf-NO-SP...@erols.com> wrote (in
> <mrqdncEOg6G...@rcn.net>) about 'OT: Problems with Mozilla
> Firefox', on Mon, 25 Apr 2005:
>
>> John, do the google. The first site you find will be from a german
>> medical paper on the subject. I think your curiosity will be satisfied.
>
>
> The first three are all the same rant from a kook. He even admits that
> he has no evidence of any effect, and then claims 'fatal consequences'.
> It destroys one's faith in freedom of speech.
On further reading, it appears to be nonsense. If the problem were as
severe as he says it *may* be, there would be tens of thousands of people
with very real hearing damage.
As you also found, all of the hits on the subject seem to be referencing
this same guy's stuff.... I guess he got his 15 minutes of fame.
-Chuck
John Woodgate
>John, do the google. The first site you find will be from a german
>medical paper on the subject. I think your curiosity will be
>satisfied.
Oh, I will, in fact I would have done by now if something else had not
intervened. I just wanted to explain why I didn't do that originally.
Joerg
> http://www.headwize.com/articles/hearing_art.htm
Pretty cool.
But you are right, credible medical information usually requires
membership or the disbursement of pretty steep fees for access. Like
IEEE-Explore you usually only find the abstracts on the web, the full
pdf file requires payment.
Regards, Joerg
budgie
wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:33:48 GMT, Joerg
><notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
>>Hello John,
>>
>>> But I really appreciate the irresponsibility of being able to use my
>>> browser without being reminded that I have 45 emails stacked up
>>> demanding my attention.
>>
>>AFAIK that can be done with Mozilla by not enabling "Check email server
>>every x many minutes for mail". Then it should only show anything when
>>you deliberately open mail and after clicking "Get Msgs".
>>
>>I usually like that feature though, especially when waiting for feedback
>>from a client after I sent them a schematic. It's just a small blue
>>message blurb, no sound (I disabled these) and not in the browser window.
>>
>>Regards, Joerg
>>
>>http://www.analogconsultants.com
>
>Why is it that anyone would even want an "integrated" tool? Sounds
>like jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none ;-)
which is the main reason I generally avoid MS apps for mail, news, and browsing.
>I use Eudora v3.0.5 for E-mail, Agent v1.93 for News and Firefox v1.03
>to browse.
4.3.2, 1.93 and 1.02 here.