Open Access ??
Jim Thompson
labeled...
symbol.oa
As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
What do I need? Where do I go?
Thanks!
...Jim Thompson
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Michael A. Terrell
Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
> labeled...
>
> symbol.oa
>
> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>
> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>
> What do I need? Where do I go?
I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
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Jim Thompson
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>> labeled...
>>
>> symbol.oa
>>
>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>
>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>
>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>
>
> I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
>content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
Tried that already... all I see are little squares :-(
David Eather
> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
> labeled...
>
> symbol.oa
>
> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>
> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>
> What do I need? Where do I go?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ...Jim Thompson
You need to Google for "Open Office" - it is a really good MSOffice work
alike. Open Access is the database program in the suite.
Open Office is free as a large download or you can by CD's of it on ebay
Peter Bennett
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:34:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
><mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>>> labeled...
>>>
>>> symbol.oa
>>>
>>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>>
>>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>>
>>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>
>>
>> I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
>>content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
>
>Tried that already... all I see are little squares :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson
I've used an ancient third-party DOS utility called "list" for viewing
unknown files. It will display a file in text (if ASCII) or hex on
request (and strips Wordstar formatting codes). It can't damage a
file, as, if I remember correctly, it can only read files, not write
them.
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Joerg
> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
> labeled...
>
> symbol.oa
>
> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>
> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>
> What do I need? Where do I go?
>
My first employer used OpenAccess in the 80's but there were never any
*.oa files.
Foundries, layouters etc. sometimes use extensions to describe layers. I
absolutely don't like that but this "habit" is probably the reason why
Gerber programs eat those files without complaint.
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Joerg
OpenOffice is quite good but the database part of it isn't. Quite
incompatible to the rest of the world. It can't even read in my MS-Works
database files.
Sergey Kubushin
> Jim Thompson wrote:
>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>> labeled...
>>
>> symbol.oa
>>
>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>
>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>
>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>
>
> My first employer used OpenAccess in the 80's but there were never any
> *.oa files.
>
> Foundries, layouters etc. sometimes use extensions to describe layers. I
> absolutely don't like that but this "habit" is probably the reason why
> Gerber programs eat those files without complaint.
Gerbers are text files...
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Joerg
> Joerg <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>>> labeled...
>>>
>>> symbol.oa
>>>
>>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>>
>>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>>
>>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>>
>> My first employer used OpenAccess in the 80's but there were never any
>> *.oa files.
>>
>> Foundries, layouters etc. sometimes use extensions to describe layers. I
>> absolutely don't like that but this "habit" is probably the reason why
>> Gerber programs eat those files without complaint.
>
> Gerbers are text files...
>
I know. But it's bad practice to call the files gizmo.top, gizmo.a02,
gizmo.bot and so on. They should be called gizmo_top.pho, gizmo_a02.pho,
gizmo_bot.pho and so on. That's how professional layouters like mine do it.
Robert Baer
> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
> labeled...
>
> symbol.oa
>
> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>
> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>
> What do I need? Where do I go?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ...Jim Thompson
T
The-Enve...@My-Web-Site.com says...
>
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:34:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jim Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
> >> labeled...
> >>
> >> symbol.oa
> >>
> >> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
> >>
> >> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
> >>
> >> What do I need? Where do I go?
> >
> >
> > I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
> >content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
>
> Tried that already... all I see are little squares :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson
http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm
Do the TextFX menu and select Dec to Hex. That'll show the actual
values.
baron
> David Eather wrote:
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>>> labeled...
>>>
>>> symbol.oa
>>>
>>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>>
>>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>>
>>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>
>> You need to Google for "Open Office" - it is a really good MSOffice
>> work
>> alike. Open Access is the database program in the suite.
>>
>> Open Office is free as a large download or you can by CD's of it on
>> ebay
>
>
> OpenOffice is quite good but the database part of it isn't. Quite
> incompatible to the rest of the world. It can't even read in my
> MS-Works database files.
>
Nothing other than "Works" can read its database files !
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Baron.
Joerg
When I started up a small med company I found that admins in the US were
largely unfamiliar with databases. They knew Excel well but not Access.
Same for the one I hired. So, I had to teach her because I wanted just
about anything organized in databases in order to have the company ready
for growth.
I took some sample databases from my home to the company (sans content,
of course, except for a few lines of sample data). It was all in
MS-Works. I had no problem at all getting that loaded into MS-Office
which was the 97-version back then.
Rich Grise
> Joerg Inscribed thus:
>>
>> incompatible to the rest of the world. It can't even read in my
>> MS-Works database files.
>
> Nothing other than "Works" can read its database files !
Can Works export its data to some more readable format?
Thanks,
Rich
Baron
If I remember correctly it can do comma delimited, not sure about any
other.
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Best Regards:
Baron.
Baron
Things may have changed a bit since then. I remember rewriting a works
database application in "Paradox" because nothing could read
the "Works" format and "Foxbase" cost a fortune at the time. I don't
recall what that became. Come back "Ashton Tate" all is
forgotten. :-)
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Baron.
Joerg
JosephKK
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:34:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
><mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>>> labeled...
>>>
>>> symbol.oa
>>>
>>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>>
>>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>>
>>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>
>>
>> I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
>>content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
>
>Tried that already... all I see are little squares :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Not to be baroque, but have you tried checking the Cadence web site?
Jim Thompson
Yep, I have. They provide nothing without a HUGE fee :-(
Charlie E.
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:06:03 -0700,
>"JosephKK"<quiett...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:51:00 -0700, Jim Thompson
>><To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:34:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>><mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>>>>> labeled...
>>>>>
>>>>> symbol.oa
>>>>>
>>>>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
>>>>content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
>>>
>>>Tried that already... all I see are little squares :-(
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>Not to be baroque, but have you tried checking the Cadence web site?
>
>Yep, I have. They provide nothing without a HUGE fee :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Yep, you see, Open Access doesn't mean Open, like Open Source, it
means that there is a standard that bridges across vendors. See, if a
start up uses OA in their tools, then, when Cadence buys them, it is a
lot easier to link them into the tool chains... ;-)
Charlie
JosephKK
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:06:03 -0700,
>"JosephKK"<quiett...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:51:00 -0700, Jim Thompson
>><To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:34:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>><mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
>>>>> labeled...
>>>>>
>>>>> symbol.oa
>>>>>
>>>>> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do I need? Where do I go?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I always look at oddball files with Wordpad to see if I recognize the
>>>>content. Some are common file types with custom extensions.
>>>
>>>Tried that already... all I see are little squares :-(
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>>Not to be baroque, but have you tried checking the Cadence web site?
>
>Yep, I have. They provide nothing without a HUGE fee :-(
>
> ...Jim Thompson
So that is their idea of "open access". And i did want to try to give
them the benefit of doubt. It is not a good year to play squeeze the
customer.
Mike
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:2l3755ptkve1msul4...@4ax.com...
>I have some Cadence files (provided by a foundry I work with)
> labeled...
>
> symbol.oa
>
> As near as I can decipher by surfing, these are "Open Access" files.
>
> I find all kinds of baloney about "free", but can't locate a viewer.
>
> What do I need? Where do I go?
>
Yup, they're Open Access files. You need a schematic editor that understands
Open Access. I'm amazed at the responses: a text editor? Open Office? WTF?
Have you contacted the fab? What options do they offer?
-- Mike --