OT: Eat The Rich!
alie...@gmail.com
"California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa is the richest lawmaker on
Capitol Hill, with a net worth estimated at about $251 million."
Why, that NASTY grasping, selfish Republican! How DARE he hoard such
wealth with so many starving homeless undocumented immigrant children
of color in this country?
Who are the next four richest? We The People oughta go to WA DC and
just rend them limb from limb and devour their wriggling carcasses!
That'd teach them! Then the honest, upright, generous Democrats could
make SURE that wealth is fairly distributed; everybody KNOWS Democrats
aren't Evil Grasping Hoarders!
"Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7
million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen.
Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry
(D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million."
Oh, wait... never mind.
Original source:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/index.php
Dr. HotSalt
Mark
Yes, we should collect all the assets, wealth, and
resources available to humanity, specifically taking it
away from achievers, and then, distribute it all equally
among all people by dividing it fairly. THEN there will
be no more war, gangs and poverty. Everyone will be happy
and we can spend more time singing and drinking
Coca-cola.
Handicap parking for everyone!!
---
Mark
don
> On Nov 8, 1:45 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
Now you know why we should kill all gmail postings !!!!
Mark
> > On Nov 8, 1:45 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now you know why we should kill all gmail postings !!!!
Are you suggesting that there could be
a flaw in Communism? Or sarcasm?
---
Mark
Matthew L. Martin
There are no flaws in sarcasm.
Matthew (unless you are doing it wrong)
--
I have two granddaughters:
Alex will find a way to silently get from where she is to where she
wants to be.
Anna will make an Anna sized hole between where she is to where she
wants to be.
Piet de Arcilla
Here's an idea. Every year, we have a lottery. First, one person with
assets over $100 million is chosen, and then one person with assets
under $1 million is chosen. All except $1 million is taken from the
first person and given to the second.
That way, we have wealth redistribution without equality.
David DeLaney
>"n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Who are the next four richest? We The People oughta go to WA DC and
>> just rend them limb from limb and devour their wriggling carcasses!
>> That'd teach them! Then the honest, upright, generous Democrats could
>> make SURE that wealth is fairly distributed; everybody KNOWS Democrats
>> aren't Evil Grasping Hoarders!
>>
>
>Yes, we should collect all the assets, wealth, and
>resources available to humanity, specifically taking it
>away from achievers, and then, distribute it all equally
>among all people by dividing it fairly. THEN there will
>be no more war, gangs and poverty. Everyone will be happy
>and we can spend more time singing and drinking Coca-cola.
>
>Handicap parking for everyone!!
You are Harrison Bergeron, and I claim an iPod set to play white noise.
Dave
--
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
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Robert Baer
Greegor
> "California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa is the richest lawmaker on
> Capitol Hill, with a net worth estimated at about $251 million."
> Why, that NASTY grasping, selfish Republican! How DARE he hoard such
> wealth with so many starving homeless undocumented immigrant children
> of color in this country?
> Who are the next four richest? We The People oughta go to WA DC and
> just rend them limb from limb and devour their wriggling carcasses!
> That'd teach them! Then the honest, upright, generous Democrats could
> make SURE that wealth is fairly distributed; everybody KNOWS Democrats
> aren't Evil Grasping Hoarders!
> "Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7
> million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen.
> Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry
> (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million."
> Oh, wait... never mind.
On Nov 8, 5:01 pm, Mark <blueriver...@y>
> Yes, we should collect all the assets, wealth, and
> resources available to humanity, specifically taking it
> away from achievers, and then, distribute it all equally
> among all people by dividing it fairly. THEN there will
> be no more war, gangs and poverty. Everyone will be happy
> and we can spend more time singing and drinking
> Coca-cola.
>
> Handicap parking for everyone!!
LOL - Isn't that how a lot of liberals actually think?
On Nov 8, 6:17 pm, Piet de Arcilla <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's an idea. Every year, we have a lottery. First, one person with
> assets over $100 million is chosen, and then one person with assets
> under $1 million is chosen. All except $1 million is taken from the
> first person and given to the second.
>
> That way, we have wealth redistribution without equality.
If the first guy had 150 Million, then the newly rich guy
would be eligible to be stripped of his new wealth the following year.
There's a guy in my area who was famous for
literally starting his big company in a garage.
I heard that over and over.
Then I found out he DID start in his garage
but with MILLIONS of dollars his wife
had inherited!
People only tried telling me the ""garage""
story one or twice after that but I
confess I enjoyed unloading on them.
Mark Edwards
>Handicap parking for everyone!!
I'm probably good for a half-dozen strokes.
Mark Edwards
--
Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
Mark Edwards
>You are Harrison Bergeron, and I claim an iPod set to play white noise.
He's a big horse?
Rich Grise
> Mark wrote:
>> On Nov 8, 5:09 pm, don <don> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 8, 1:45 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Now you know why we should kill all gmail postings !!!!
>>
>> Are you suggesting that there could be a flaw in Communism? Or sarcasm?
>
> There are no flaws in sarcasm.
>
Thanks,
Rich
David DeLaney
>No cluons were harmed when Mark wrote:
>>Handicap parking for everyone!!
>
>I'm probably good for a half-dozen strokes.
I hear there's a cream for that.
Dave "just sayin'" DeLaney
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Why 'never mind'?
How do these people vote on tax issues? Not every wealthy person sits in
their cellar, counting their coins.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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Yeah, but you're taking the universe out of context.
Mark
> How do these people vote on tax issues? Not every wealthy person sits in
> their cellar, counting their coins.
Yeah really.
We have people do it for us.
---
Mark
Otto Bahn
> How do these people vote on tax issues?
Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
really a vote, but is what gets entered.
> Not every wealthy person sits in
> their cellar, counting their coins.
The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
HTH.
<Yeah really.
<
<We have people do it for us.
It's called a "bank".
--oTTo--
krw
>"Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>
>Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>
>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>
>The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>HTH.
The problem with that theory is that they're going to tax old wealth
by letting inflation run wild.
David DeLaney
>How do these people vote on tax issues? Not every wealthy person sits in
IFYPFY.
Dave "HTH. HAND. $$$." DeLaney
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
So put it somewhere that will keep up with inflation. Preferably in a
business in a tax jurisdiction with low/no capital gains or dividend
taxes.
--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:Pa...@Hovnanian.com
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ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI!
Matthew L. Martin
You do realize that inflation is the way that tax cuts are funded, don't
you?
Matthew
krw
<pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
>krw wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:57:48 -0500, "Otto Bahn" <e...@eio.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> >
>> >> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>> >
>> >Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>> >really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>> >
>> >> Not every wealthy person sits in
>> >> their cellar, counting their coins.
>> >
>> >The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>> >HTH.
>>
>> The problem with that theory is that they're going to tax old wealth
>> by letting inflation run wild.
>
>So put it somewhere that will keep up with inflation. Preferably in a
>business in a tax jurisdiction with low/no capital gains or dividend
>taxes.
Go right ahead and buy California bonds.
krw
<not...@notnow.never> wrote:
>krw wrote:
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:57:48 -0500, "Otto Bahn" <e...@eio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>>> Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>>> really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>>>
>>>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>>>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>>> The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>>> HTH.
>>
>> The problem with that theory is that they're going to tax old wealth
>> by letting inflation run wild.
>>
>
>You do realize that inflation is the way that tax cuts are funded, don't
>you?
Sure, but tax cuts *help* starve the beast, just as drunk sailoring[*]
feeds it.
[*] Kennedy had this one down pat, in all senses of the phrase
Matthew L. Martin
Only if spending is restrain. The GOP cut taxes *and* increased
spending. No starvation today, only future destitution.
Magnetic
In a dozen of days CERN’s LHC will kill all of you and all of your
relatives.
Take action, to save your souls!
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/7e292b42c079aa35?hl=en#
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/biz.html
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/civilen.html
krw
<not...@notnow.never> wrote:
>krw wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:24:24 -0500, "Matthew L. Martin"
>> <not...@notnow.never> wrote:
>>
>>> krw wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:57:48 -0500, "Otto Bahn" <e...@eio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>>>>> Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>>>>> really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>>>>>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>>>>> The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>>>>> HTH.
>>>> The problem with that theory is that they're going to tax old wealth
>>>> by letting inflation run wild.
>>>>
>>> You do realize that inflation is the way that tax cuts are funded, don't
>>> you?
>>
>> Sure, but tax cuts *help* starve the beast, just as drunk sailoring[*]
>> feeds it.
>
>Only if spending is restrain. The GOP cut taxes *and* increased
>spending. No starvation today, only future destitution.
I don't recall ever saying that GWB was a conservative, only that he
was far better than the alternatives. He did have the banking crisis
right, unlike your leftist heroes.
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> "Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>
> Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
> really a vote, but is what gets entered.
Crap on you for doing that joek before me.
>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>
> The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
> HTH.
If you tax wealth instead of income, you promote liquidity of cash,
and therefore help the economy explodiate even more exponentially
fast!
Win!
--
TimC
Sign on door of computing lecturer: "If your project is 90% right,
I will give you a distinction, your employer will fire you." -- Zebee
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> "Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7
>> million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen.
>> Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry
>> (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million."
> How do these people vote on tax issues?
With a pen and paper. Or sometimes their voice.
--
TimC
I bet the human brain is a kludge.
-- Marvin Minsky
David DeLaney
>relatives.
_Kill_?
Heh. Heh heh.
>Take action, to save your souls!
Oh, their -souls- are in no danger.
Dave "across! the eighth! DIMENNNNSION!" DeLaney
Matthew L. Martin
Shy are you bring GWB into the discussion? The spending bills originated
in the GOP dominated Congress. All he did was sign them. He was good at
doing what he was told.
BTW, I don't have any heroes who are also politicians.
Otto Bahn
>>>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>>> Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>>> really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>>>
>>>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>>>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>>> The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>>> HTH.
>>
>> The problem with that theory is that they're going to tax old wealth
>> by letting inflation run wild.
>>
>
> You do realize that inflation is the way that tax cuts are funded, don't
> you?
Without taxes we'd have infinite inflation!
The problem is when government spends more than it rakes in.
Cut spending AND taxes.
--oTTo--
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
> On 2009-11-09, Otto Bahn (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> "Mark" <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>>
>> Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>> really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>
> Crap on you for doing that joek before me.
>
>>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>>
>> The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>> HTH.
>
> If you tax wealth instead of income, you promote liquidity of cash,
> and therefore help the economy explodiate even more exponentially
> fast!
Cash moves fast alright. Right off shore.
--
Paul Hovnanian pa...@hovnanian.com
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Have gnu, will travel.
Mark
> The problem is when government spends more than it rakes in.
> Cut spending AND taxes.
>
> --oTTo--
Then how are we supposed to fund corruption?
---
mark, circa-2010
Jim Yanik
news:Q7mdnQHG5_ZJOmTX...@posted.isomediainc:
>
> Cash moves fast alright. Right off shore.
>
Due to "progressives" taxation.
Lower taxes,and those funds move right back to the US.
(and tax revenue increases)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
Jim Yanik
news:hdc558$iu5$1...@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu:
Just think of how many US people are employed by government.
To cut gov't spending,you need to lay off a large part of those
employees,while dropping much of the departments where gov't really has no
business,under the Constitution.
Heck,you could get rid of ATF (F-troop).
FBI could take over most of it's -legitimate- duties,and do it
better,too,while getting rid of the unconstitutional gun laws.
don
> "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote in
> news:Q7mdnQHG5_ZJOmTX...@posted.isomediainc:
>
>
>> Cash moves fast alright. Right off shore.
>>
>
>
> Due to "progressives" taxation.
> Lower taxes,and those funds move right back to the US.
> (and tax revenue increases)
>
I do not believe this to be true.
If you had cash offshore, would you bring it back when taxes go down.
And admit you put it offshore to start with ?
Once off shore, it will stay off shore.
But there are "creative" ways to bring it !
don
krw
<not...@notnow.never> wrote:
1) You have such a case of BDS that I thought I'd help you out with
your hate. 2) GWB was the head of the Republican party (and
republican party). He was sorta important in the decision making
process.
>BTW, I don't have any heroes who are also politicians.
Not that you'll admit to, but you do. You love all socialists.
krw
wrote:
>"Otto Bahn" <e...@eio.com> wrote in
>news:hdc558$iu5$1...@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu:
>
>> "Matthew L. Martin" <not...@notnow.never> wrote
>>
>>>>>> How do these people vote on tax issues?
>>>>> Yes, No, Abstain, or Absent. They latter technically is not
>>>>> really a vote, but is what gets entered.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not every wealthy person sits in
>>>>>> their cellar, counting their coins.
>>>>> The key is taxing new *income* and not their old wealth.
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with that theory is that they're going to tax old wealth
>>>> by letting inflation run wild.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You do realize that inflation is the way that tax cuts are funded,
>>> don't you?
>>
>> Without taxes we'd have infinite inflation!
>>
>> The problem is when government spends more than it rakes in.
>> Cut spending AND taxes.
>>
>> --oTTo--
>>
>>
>>
>
>Just think of how many US people are employed by government.
>To cut gov't spending,you need to lay off a large part of those
>employees,while dropping much of the departments where gov't really has no
>business,under the Constitution.
You say that like there is some sort of problem with the idea.
>Heck,you could get rid of ATF (F-troop).
>FBI could take over most of it's -legitimate- duties,and do it
>better,too,while getting rid of the unconstitutional gun laws.
Just change the name to ATM. Keep all the good stuff in one place.
;-)
Matthew L. Martin
Any reason you feel the need to project motivations on others? Perhaps
you don't have a rational basis for your positions? I thought so.
krw
<not...@notnow.never> wrote:
Nope. Wrong again. ...but I can read.
Jim Yanik
news:ct2nf55da81btq35u...@4ax.com:
the problem is that all those gov't workers are going to -oppose- any
effort to downsize gov't.
That makes it very difficult to reduce gov't spending and waste.
One big problem is that once enacted,gov't programs don't ever end.
They should only be authorized for 5 years,then require proof of
effectiveness and a revote to continue funding them,or else they
automatically expire.
Otto Bahn
>>> I don't recall ever saying that GWB was a conservative, only that he
>>> was far better than the alternatives. He did have the banking crisis
>>> right, unlike your leftist heroes.
>>
>>Shy are you bring GWB into the discussion? The spending bills originated
>>in the GOP dominated Congress. All he did was sign them. He was good at
>>doing what he was told.
>
> 1) You have such a case of BDS that I thought I'd help you out with
> your hate. 2) GWB was the head of the Republican party (and
> republican party). He was sorta important in the decision making
> process.
Not really. He was reading a story about goats while
the decision makers were deciding whether or not to
take down airliners full of American citizens.
They could have nailed every one of those jets with
Navy SA missiles or air-to-air missiles, but they froze
instead.
--oTTo--
Bill Sloman
"krw" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> schreef in bericht
news:nq4nf59cjlckknrd4...@4ax.com...
I don't believe that krw has made this particular claim before. It is
obvious that he can read text, otherwise he wouldn't be able to read and
respond to the text messages on the usergroup, but he doesn't seem to read
books or reflective articles magazines with any kind of inteelctual content.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Jim Yanik
> "krw" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote
>
>>>> I don't recall ever saying that GWB was a conservative, only that he
>>>> was far better than the alternatives. He did have the banking crisis
>>>> right, unlike your leftist heroes.
>>>
>>>Shy are you bring GWB into the discussion? The spending bills originated
>>>in the GOP dominated Congress. All he did was sign them. He was good at
>>>doing what he was told.
>>
>> 1) You have such a case of BDS that I thought I'd help you out with
>> your hate. 2) GWB was the head of the Republican party (and
>> republican party). He was sorta important in the decision making
>> process.
>
> Not really. He was reading a story about goats while
> the decision makers were deciding whether or not to
> take down airliners full of American citizens.
Bush Derangement Syndrome.
>
> They could have nailed every one of those jets with
> Navy SA missiles or air-to-air missiles, but they froze
> instead.
>
> --oTTo--
It wasn't "freezing",it was not contemplating that sort of attack being
made,and being unprepared for it.
shows how little you know about American air defense in the CONUS and/or
Capitol.
You have no idea of how commercial AC are monitored or response time of air
defense fighters in peacetime status.
Also,a very busy commercial airport is very close to the Capitol.
BTW,you proably didn't know that since then,the WH is defended by NASAMS,a
ground-launched AIM-120 AMRAAM missile system.
Oh,and for the NAVY to use a SAM,there has to be a Navy SHIP somewhere in
the vicinity,and on alert and ready for such an attack.
Even after a large commercial airliner is "shot down",the "killed" plane
still makes a big mess wherever it lands.
krw
wrote:
>"Otto Bahn" <e...@eio.com> wrote in news:hdh89h$9va$1...@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu:
>
>> "krw" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote
>>
>>>>> I don't recall ever saying that GWB was a conservative, only that he
>>>>> was far better than the alternatives. He did have the banking crisis
>>>>> right, unlike your leftist heroes.
>>>>
>>>>Shy are you bring GWB into the discussion? The spending bills originated
>>>>in the GOP dominated Congress. All he did was sign them. He was good at
>>>>doing what he was told.
>>>
>>> 1) You have such a case of BDS that I thought I'd help you out with
>>> your hate. 2) GWB was the head of the Republican party (and
>>> republican party). He was sorta important in the decision making
>>> process.
>>
>> Not really. He was reading a story about goats while
>> the decision makers were deciding whether or not to
>> take down airliners full of American citizens.
>
>Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Obviously.
>> They could have nailed every one of those jets with
>> Navy SA missiles or air-to-air missiles, but they froze
>> instead.
>>
>> --oTTo--
>
>It wasn't "freezing",it was not contemplating that sort of attack being
>made,and being unprepared for it.
>
>shows how little you know about American air defense in the CONUS and/or
>Capitol.
>You have no idea of how commercial AC are monitored or response time of air
>defense fighters in peacetime status.
>Also,a very busy commercial airport is very close to the Capitol.
>
>BTW,you proably didn't know that since then,the WH is defended by NASAMS,a
>ground-launched AIM-120 AMRAAM missile system.
>
>Oh,and for the NAVY to use a SAM,there has to be a Navy SHIP somewhere in
>the vicinity,and on alert and ready for such an attack.
Oh, and for the Air FOrce to use an Air-to-Air missile there has to be
an airplane somewhere in the vicinity *with* a live Air-to-Air missile
on board. In '01 that was a rarity.
krw
wrote:
That makes it difficult, but there is no problem with the idea. ;-)
>One big problem is that once enacted,gov't programs don't ever end.
>They should only be authorized for 5 years,then require proof of
>effectiveness and a revote to continue funding them,or else they
>automatically expire.
You mean like the debt limit legislation?
Bill Sloman
> "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote innews:Q7mdnQHG5_ZJOmTX...@posted.isomediainc:
>
>
>
> > Cash moves fast alright. Right off shore.
>
> Due to "progressives" taxation.
> Lower taxes,and those funds move right back to the US.
> (and tax revenue increases)
That does assume that the rich pay taxes. In the US the combination of
tax loop-holes shoe-horned into irrelvant legislation and the usual
tax-avoidance schemes mean that they don't pay much in the way of
taxes, so that all the fuss about the cash "moving off shore" is
simply naive.
In Europe the 95% taxes on the highest incomes that some old-fashioned
doctrinaire socialist administrations used to impose, decades ago,
were quietly scaled down to closer to 67% - anything higher and it
pays the high rate tax-payers to have an accountant working pretty
much full-time on tax-avoidance schemes, with the result that the
governemnt doesn't get to collect any more tax if they try to raise
the tax rate any higher.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Jim Yanik
news:1kapf5ppdpm4ublmu...@4ax.com:
exactly;
first,a wayward plane has to be identified as a threat (and not an
emergency),then fighters scrambled to intercept,and a decision made to
shoot it down,or to try to divert it.That takes some time.
Nobody knew the hijacked airliners were being used as weapons until the
first one hit the WTC tower. At least the one meant for the White House was
crashed after passengers got cellphone messages that told them what
happened to other hijacked planes.Those brave people saved thousands of
lives and billions worth of real estate and economic losses.HEROES.
>
>>Even after a large commercial airliner is "shot down",the "killed"
>>plane still makes a big mess wherever it lands.
>
--
Jim Yanik
news:hnapf59p0quj8gstg...@4ax.com:
Like the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban.
It had a 5 year duration,then had to be renewed by vote or it expired.
It did expire. (Hurrah!!)
It deserved to expire.
krw
wrote:
It would have taken an hour or two just to get the permissions to load
a live weapon on a plane, stateside. ...and another hour to get it in
the air. The F16s that responded couldn't even shoot blanks.
Bill Marcum
On 2009-11-08, Mark <blueri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:45 pm, "n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29235.html
>>
>> "Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7
>> million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen.
>> Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry
>> (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million."
>>
>>
>> Original source:
>>
>> http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/index.php
>>
>> Dr. HotSalt
>
> Yes, we should collect all the assets, wealth, and
> resources available to humanity, specifically taking it
> away from achievers, and then, distribute it all equally
Who said anything about achievers? Those were senators. This country
already takes everything from the achievers, outsources their jobs, and
gives billion dollar bonuses to the CEOs, whether their company makes
or loses money. And the politicians spend much more money running
for office than they earn from their salaries.
Bill Marcum
>
> I don't recall ever saying that GWB was a conservative, only that he
> was far better than the alternatives. He did have the banking crisis
> right, unlike your leftist heroes.
Almost right. It wasn't supposed to start before he left office.
Bill Marcum
>
> They could have nailed every one of those jets with
> Navy SA missiles or air-to-air missiles, but they froze
> instead.
>
> --oTTo--
>
a world where airliners could be pre-emptively shot down to prevent a
possible 9/11. Think of the people on that Northwest flight.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
Its much lower that that, actually. Capital gains taxes are much lower, or
non existant in many countries. And its taxes on the movement of capital
(or any other hindrances on it) that are what's important. Deregulation of
broker's fees should have taught Congress that. For large transactions,
even fractions of a percent make a big difference. And taxes gum up the
works in much the same manner as fees.
For lessons in what happens when capital markets get inefficient, look at
Japan, the latest Asian financial crisis, or various South American
economies that tried implementing capital controls.
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
> "nu...@bid.nes" wrote:
>>
>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29235.html
>>
>> "California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa is the richest lawmaker on
>> Capitol Hill, with a net worth estimated at about $251 million."
>>
>> Why, that NASTY grasping, selfish Republican! How DARE he hoard such
>> wealth with so many starving homeless undocumented immigrant children of
>> color in this country?
>>
>> Who are the next four richest? We The People oughta go to WA DC and
>> just rend them limb from limb and devour their wriggling carcasses!
>> That'd teach them! Then the honest, upright, generous Democrats could
>> make SURE that wealth is fairly distributed; everybody KNOWS Democrats
>> aren't Evil Grasping Hoarders!
>>
>> "Next in line: Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7
>> million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), worth about $214.5 million; Sen. Mark
>> Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million; and Sen. John Kerry
>> (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million."
>>
>> Oh, wait... never mind.
>
>
> How do these people vote on tax issues? Not every wealthy person sits in
> their cellar, counting their coins.
They left out this guy:
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/04/it-pays-to-go-green-al-gores-net-worth-jumps-from-2-million-in-2000-to-100-million-in-2008/
Clearly, Prince Al knows where the money is!
Cheers!
Rich
Dr. HotSalt
>
> Clearly, Prince Al knows where the money is!
>
> Cheers!
> Rich
Gore is a FORMER senator.
Duh!
Mark L. Fergerson
JosephKK
Whoosh!
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
> On Nov 17, 10:56�am, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
>
> Duh!
Of course! He can make much more money spreading his warmingist propaganda.
Thanks,
Rich
Joel Koltner
news:pan.2009.11.18....@example.net...
> Of course! He can make much more money spreading his warmingist propaganda.
Palin figured out that there's a lot more money to be made as a speaker,
author and "consultant" than as a government official too, you know. :-)
Matthew L. Martin
You do know that making money is bad only when liberals do it, don't
you? It is perfectly fine for conservatives to successfully collect all
of the money.
alie...@gmail.com
> Joel Koltner wrote:
> >news:pan.2009.11.18....@example.net...
> >> Of course! He can make much more money spreading his warmingist propaganda.
>
> > Palin figured out that there's a lot more money to be made as a speaker,
> > author and "consultant" than as a government official too, you know. :-)
>
> You do know that making money is bad only when liberals do it, don't
> you? It is perfectly fine for conservatives to successfully collect all
> of the money.
Well, of course.
When Liberals *make* money they never back the paper with anything.
When Conservatives *collect* money, the Liberals tax it away from
them.
Dr. HotSalt
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
I can't understand why anybody's paying any attention at all to Sarah
Palin. She's been nothing but a bad joke since day one.
Probably the "liberal" media keep trotting her out to continue to rub
the Republicans' nose into the Obama win, which, BTW, is leading the
Republic down into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
Thanks,
Rich
Mark
<freedom_...@example.net> wrote:
> Of course! He can make much more money spreading his warmingist propaganda.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
I tell ya what. You find a way to stop the North Pole,
and the glaciers from melting as they are, so that we
don't end up with a billion or two displaced illiterate
"tourists", and...fix the weather too, ok? And those
nasty "dead zones" on the ocean floor which are big
as the state of Texas and growing.
If you'll fix all that...then I'll personally deliver the
head of Al Gore, or anyone else you want, in a
shiny hat box.
---
Mark
Glenn Knickerbocker
> I tell ya what. You find a way to stop the North Pole,
> and the glaciers from melting as they are, so that we
> don't end up with a billion or two displaced illiterate
> "tourists",
You do understand the North Pole doesn't make a bit of difference to sea
level, right? Greenland, that's another story.
�R
Mark
The North Pole is just the tip of the iceberg.
But another disruption in the Humbolt current is
going to spell disaster, again. It's my faaavorite
thermohaline conveyor. As in...
Thermohaline Conveyor
A global water circulation system driven by water temperature and salt-
density that distributes water between the Earth’s oceans. Warmer
water closer to the ocean's surface travels from the northern Pacific
Ocean, south through the Indian Ocean (where it is joined by more warm
water), around the southern tip of Africa, and up to the northern
Atlantic Ocean. At this point, the water cools and sinks toward the
bottom of the ocean and travels back via the same path. The
thermohaline conveyor is repsonsibile for bringing warmer, more
temperate climate to most of Europe and has a profound effect on
global climate.
And Al Gore?
Don't shoot the messenger.
---
Mark
G.E. We bring good thing to life
krw
Since the leftist loons were trying to sue her into bankruptcy, she
made the smart move. Of course it would be unheard of for a
politician to make money on a book while still in office.
David DeLaney
Up. _Up_ into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
Dave "get it RIGHT" DeLaney
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Doctroid
d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
> Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <freed...@example.net> wrote:
> >Probably the "liberal" media keep trotting her out to continue to rub
> >the Republicans' nose into the Obama win, which, BTW, is leading the
> >Republic down into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
>
> Up. _Up_ into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
Damn it, I was ASSURED it would be a topless abyss.
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Jim Yanik
news:slrnhg9jh...@gatekeeper.vic.com:
> Richard the Dreaded Libertarian <freed...@example.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:11:40 -0800, Joel Koltner wrote:
>>> Palin figured out that there's a lot more money to be made as a
>>> speaker, author and "consultant" than as a government official too,
>>> you know. :-)
>>
>>I can't understand why anybody's paying any attention at all to Sarah
>>Palin. She's been nothing but a bad joke since day one.
Then why the tremendous drive to demonize her,to "out" her,to denigrate her
in any way they can? (they did the same to Joe the Plumber)
If the media had spent as much time and effort investigating Obama as they
have Palin,Obama would never have been elected.
Clearly,the "progressives" consider her a serious threat.
(Clearly,Media Malpractice,WRT Obama)
>>
>>Probably the "liberal" media keep trotting her out to continue to rub
>>the Republicans' nose into the Obama win, which, BTW, is leading the
>>Republic down into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
>
> Up. _Up_ into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
>
> Dave "get it RIGHT" DeLaney
HOW is socialism a step UP?
it's more REgressive than "progressive",as they like to call themselves.
Heck,the Communists of the USSR and Red China call themselves
"progressives".
Otto Bahn
>> >Probably the "liberal" media keep trotting her out to continue to rub
>> >the Republicans' nose into the Obama win, which, BTW, is leading the
>> >Republic down into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
>>
>> Up. _Up_ into the bottomless abyss of Socialism.
>
> Damn it, I was ASSURED it would be a topless abyss.
Either way, please tell me Valerie Bertinelli is a socialist.
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Rich Grise
> On Nov 18, 1:57�pm, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
> <freedom_...@example.net> wrote:
>
>> Of course! He can make much more money spreading his warmingist
>> propaganda.
>
> I tell ya what. You find a way to stop the North Pole, and the glaciers
> from melting as they are, so that we don't end up with a billion or two
> displaced illiterate "tourists", and...fix the weather too, ok?
Simple. Just send Reverend Gore to the sun to turn down the thermostat.
And, of course, develop nuclear rockets to "correct" Earth's orbital
perturbations.
Dupe.
Thanks,
Rich
Otto Bahn
>>> Of course! He can make much more money spreading his warmingist
>>> propaganda.
>>
>> I tell ya what. You find a way to stop the North Pole, and the glaciers
>> from melting as they are, so that we don't end up with a billion or two
>> displaced illiterate "tourists", and...fix the weather too, ok?
>
> Simple. Just send Reverend Gore to the sun to turn down the thermostat.
The shadow cast by his bloated body on the way there will
likely cause plenty of global cooling.
--oTTo--