How to build a transmitter in the 20HZ range ?? Please Help If You Can.
Robert Blass
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
I have a couple of hundred dollars to spend on this project and also
have a lot of free time these days on my hands.
As far as a electrical power source I have up to the 110 volts coming
into my home as a source and as low as a 1.5 volt battery. I also have
a power supply that mimics a standard car battery's 12 volts of power.
Can one of you get me started with the basics so that I can eventually
build such a device?
It's not for a job or college project and it is simply my need to
understand and learn this concept if possible.
I do know how to read simple, very simple, schematics.
Another Thing: I used a computer program many years ago that simulated
a very simple circuit to check for faults and errors. Does such a
program exist today in the Windows environment for simple designs
which is free or nearly free to troubleshoot the project to save as
much money as possible? I'd hate to spend $100 on parts and have it
blow up just because I made some rookie mistake if you understand what
I mean?
thanks
p.s. Message was sent to 2 newsgroups
sci.electronics.basics AND sci.electronics.design
If this was the wrong thing to do, cross-posting, then please tell me
which newsgroup I should post to in the future.
donald
> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?
donald
amdx
"Robert Blass" <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
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>I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
So, is this a neighbor that has the volume to loud for you?
Mike
Jim Thompson
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:12:20 -0400, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx>
wrote:
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>If this was the wrong thing to do, cross-posting, then please tell me
>which newsgroup I should post to in the future.
sci.electronics.BASICS ;-)
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"Robert Blass" <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
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Robert,
Could you explain what you mean by "transmitter" in this context, and also
what you mean by "overcome/overload".
20 Hz to 1KHz is only going to get into the speaker through wires. (barring
extreme magnetic energy to pull the cone out at 100 yards:-) )
JeffM
>>I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>>high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>>Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>>
>So, is this a neighbor that has the volume [too] loud for you?
> Mike
That's what occurred to me as well.
Here's the boilerplate, filled out:
Your solution advocates a
(x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (x) vigilante
approach to solving a problem with a noisy neighbor.
Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work.
(One or more of the following may apply to your idea,
and it may have other flaws.)
(x) Technology doesn't work the way you think it does
Specifically, your plan fails to account for:
(x) Extreme misunderstanding of technology
(x) Lack of susceptibility of the system to your method of attack
(x) Laws already exist that forbid your neighbor from being a jerk
(x) The police don't take kindly to vigilantes
(x) Having assholes arrested works much better
The following philosophical objections may also apply:
(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with,
yet none have ever been shown practical
(x) Countermeasures must not affect *other* neighbors' gear
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
it
( ) Nice try, asshat! I'm going to find out where you live
and burn your house down!
Anthony Fremont
> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
I find that VHF SSB signals are good at doing that. Much, much, much easier
to construct antennas that concentrate their output in a fixed direction at
those frequencies as well. A couple hundred watts and a 12dBi yagi antenna
and you should be set. One more thing, you'll need to obtain a federal
license to do this.
default
wrote:
>I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
"Transmitter" implies wireless Radio Frequency - possible if you have
the resources of the Navy and wish to communicate with subs
underwater.
Magnetic transmitter - loop around the area you want to pick up a
signal. That is done, is practical, and doesn't require a license.
Don't know what you hope to do with stereo speakers. You want to
disrupt the neighbors stereo? That takes a lot of power if he's using
a CD player - less if he's using a radio - Radio takes a license and
it is illegal to disrupt communications (but it can be fun).
Something like a high energy power supply dumping huge amounts of
power into a tank circuit with a spark gap - might just disrupt a
stereo no matter what the program source.
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> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:12:20 -0400, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx>
> wrote:
>
>> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>
> "Transmitter" implies wireless Radio Frequency - possible if you have
> the resources of the Navy and wish to communicate with subs
> underwater.
>
> Magnetic transmitter - loop around the area you want to pick up a
> signal. That is done, is practical, and doesn't require a license.
>
> Don't know what you hope to do with stereo speakers. You want to
> disrupt the neighbors stereo? That takes a lot of power if he's using
> a CD player - less if he's using a radio - Radio takes a license and
> it is illegal to disrupt communications (but it can be fun).
>
> Something like a high energy power supply dumping huge amounts of
> power into a tank circuit with a spark gap - might just disrupt a
> stereo no matter what the program source.
Just build a Tesla coil and put it near his stereo.
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default
<dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>default wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:12:20 -0400, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>>> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>>> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>>
>> "Transmitter" implies wireless Radio Frequency - possible if you have
>> the resources of the Navy and wish to communicate with subs
>> underwater.
>>
>> Magnetic transmitter - loop around the area you want to pick up a
>> signal. That is done, is practical, and doesn't require a license.
>>
>> Don't know what you hope to do with stereo speakers. You want to
>> disrupt the neighbors stereo? That takes a lot of power if he's using
>> a CD player - less if he's using a radio - Radio takes a license and
>> it is illegal to disrupt communications (but it can be fun).
>>
>> Something like a high energy power supply dumping huge amounts of
>> power into a tank circuit with a spark gap - might just disrupt a
>> stereo no matter what the program source.
>
>Just build a Tesla coil and put it near his stereo.
That's what I had in mind, but you shouldn't need the secondary. Some
wannabe media star already demonstrated the coil, spark gap, thing as
working for an EMP "weapon" (by stopping a running car at 40 feet with
a tank circuit)
Robert Blass
sayd the following:
>Robert Blass wrote:
>> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>
>What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?
Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.
I'm not talking about broadcasting for a large distance. I'd just like
to broadcast 100-200 feet toward the road is all.
Robert Blass
following:
No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by, also
the same system for people who live 2 houses away from me.
I have nothing against loud music but this is literally shaking the
entire house, you can feel it deep into your own body. I don't think
that's fair so I'd like to see how they would feel.
If it's ok for them to interfere with me then they should be willing
to let me do the same thing.
Robert Blass
<tomb...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
>20 Hz to 1KHz is only going to get into the speaker through wires. (barring
>extreme magnetic energy to pull the cone out at 100 yards:-) )
I just need less than 200 feet of distance to transmit a simple sin
wave noise overlapping the stereo speakers inside a car driving by the
house.
Robert Blass
sayd the following:
>(x) Laws already exist that forbid your neighbor from being a jerk
I fear retaliation if I were to report the noise to the police.
Someone who is already violating a noise ordinance law won't be to shy
from violating yet another law.
Sorry but I fear physical retaliation if I report.
Again, I am not asking to broadcast not more than 200 feet, maybe even
less than that.
Also, not at all hours of the day.
Robert Blass
sayd the following:
>Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
>( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
> I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
>( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
>(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
>it
Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
send thumping music to the inside of my home?
I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
and rattles all the windows in my house.
I'm reacting to someone violating me and fail to see how that would
make me a stupid person.
Would you call a victim of an assault stupid for purchasing a gun and
obtaining a conceal and carry permit?
I should have the right to have a quiet setting "inside" my own home.
I am not asking for silence outdoors or anywhere else.
The people who are doing this are gangbangers and would likely
retaliate with violence if they found out I was the one who kept
calling the police.
To start, I shouldn't be the one needing to do anything at all.
Wishing to have a silent 'inside' home is not what I would call a
bizarre concept.
Tom Biasi
"Robert Blass" <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
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This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
default
wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
>sayd the following:
>
>>Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
>>( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
>> I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
>>( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
>>(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
>>it
>
>Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
>send thumping music to the inside of my home?
>I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
>and rattles all the windows in my house.
>
I have to say I'm with you there. I hate those almost sub-audible
repeatable thumping muddy bass notes.
A Tesla Coil driver with high energy PS and spark gap would probably
do it.
I took my hatchet went over to the neighbors and chopped his 220 V
supply at the pole. After all was said and done - I was lucky. No
one pressed charges because they couldn't verify the noise level and
the police never responded to my earlier complaints. The prosecutor
dropped the charges.
As for chopping wires on the pole - DON'T DO IT. I wasted a nice
Swedish steel axe that went cross country with me. The noise and
light show, and satisfaction . . . worth the cost of the axe.
>I'm reacting to someone violating me and fail to see how that would
>make me a stupid person.
>
>Would you call a victim of an assault stupid for purchasing a gun and
>obtaining a conceal and carry permit?
>
>
>I should have the right to have a quiet setting "inside" my own home.
>I am not asking for silence outdoors or anywhere else.
>
>The people who are doing this are gangbangers and would likely
>retaliate with violence if they found out I was the one who kept
>calling the police.
>
>To start, I shouldn't be the one needing to do anything at all.
>Wishing to have a silent 'inside' home is not what I would call a
>bizarre concept.
>
You feel weak and victimized. You are probably smart enough to find a
way around this problem. Try diplomacy - talk to them first - assume
the supplicant position. Never hurts to try. You can always get
nasty if that fails.
Don't threaten - appear reasonable. Work the system if you can.
Get witnesses. The law is there - use it. Don't take "no" for an
answer.
Communications first - we all have to live on this planet. Any time
you need a lawyer to resolve a problem - you've already lost.
Keep your cool, be nice. Don't ever be anything but nice towards
others.
Now if all that fails - there's always really nasty retaliation - you
can easily learn about your neighbors and cause them to lose jobs, cut
their power, wreck their credit, etc., but that's last resort
thinking.
When you get to that stage of thinking you have to consider your own
arrest and incarceration - moving is easier.
Eeyore
Robert Blass wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:21:14 -0600, donald <don...@notinmyinbox.com>
> sayd the following:
>
> >Robert Blass wrote:
> >> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> >> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> >
> >What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?
>
> Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
> road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
> on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
> position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.
Uterly different technology.
Basically yout hi-fis were shit and had no EMC capability.
Graham
Eeyore
Robert Blass wrote:
> No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by
Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
this.
Graham
Eeyore
Robert Blass wrote:
> If it's ok for them to interfere with me then they should be willing
> to let me do the same thing.
The 'American way' strikes again. See the war in Iraq, except you got the
wrong guys.
Graham
Eeyore
Robert Blass wrote:
Your total ignorance of technology isn't going to help you.
Graham
Eeyore
Robert Blass wrote:
> JeffM <jef...@email.com> sayd the following:
>
> >(x) Laws already exist that forbid your neighbor from being a jerk
>
> I fear retaliation if I were to report the noise to the police.
I'd fear retaliation from all your other neighbours who would be similarly
inconvenienced if you made something that could work. Lynch mobs aren't
much fun.
Graham
Eeyore
Robert Blass wrote:
> JeffM sayd the following:
>
> >Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
> >( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
> > I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
> >( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
> >(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
> >it
>
> Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
> send thumping music to the inside of my home?
> I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
> and rattles all the windows in my house.
Doubtless covered by local laws (national in the UK - you can have your
audio equipment confiscated and destroyed if a regular offender).
It's not a trailer park is it ?
Graham
Robert Baer
> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>
> I have a couple of hundred dollars to spend on this project and also
> have a lot of free time these days on my hands.
>
> As far as a electrical power source I have up to the 110 volts coming
> into my home as a source and as low as a 1.5 volt battery. I also have
> a power supply that mimics a standard car battery's 12 volts of power.
>
> Can one of you get me started with the basics so that I can eventually
> build such a device?
driver.
The antenna is a differnt matter - depends on the amount of wire ou
are willing to use, the size of the loop, etc.
Nothing has been said about the receiver: placement, distance, etc.
>
> It's not for a job or college project and it is simply my need to
> understand and learn this concept if possible.
>
> I do know how to read simple, very simple, schematics.
** Do not need a schematic for an audio amplifier; least expensive is
to use one that you alredy have.
Frank Raffaeli
If this is true, then you're dealing with a psychopathic personality.
A radio transmitter won't help. Read this book:
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us
(1993, 1999) ISBN 978-0671732615
And try to keep your finger off the trigger.
Robert Baer
Solem State electronics inherently have low EMC tolerance; Vacuum
Power on the other hand had a much higher EMC tolerance.
Eeyore
Robert Baer wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Robert Blass wrote:
> >>donald sayd the following:
> >>>Robert Blass wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> >>>>high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> >>>
> >>>What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?
> >>
> >>Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
> >>road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
> >>on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
> >>position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.
> >
> > Uterly different technology.
> >
> > Basically yout hi-fis were shit and had no EMC capability.
>
> Solid State electronics inherently have low EMC tolerance; Vacuum
> Power on the other hand had a much higher EMC tolerance.
Only because the higher rectification threshold makes it more tolerant.
I've designed pro-audio mixers that we tested for EMC sensitivity in the CB
band by using a handset right next to one. Not a sqeak. It's simply good
(grounding) design that's needed.
Graham
Den
"Robert Blass" <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
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As an anti-doof-doof measure what would happen if the incoming doof was fed
via a microphone and low pass filter to a threshold circuit. If the doof
exceeds a the set threshold delay the original recieved doof signal ( xx
milliseconds), amplify it and send it back via a sub-woofer of your own.
They turn it down - the feedback stops....
What would it sound like for the source - unpleasant?
Adrian Tuddenham
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
> sayd the following:
>
> >Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
> >( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
> > I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
> >( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
> >(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
> >it
>
> Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
> send thumping music to the inside of my home?
> I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
> and rattles all the windows in my house.
Are you saying that your neighbours, whose homes must be similarly
affected, are quite happy with the situation? There is something
strange going on if that is the case.
--
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(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
Jasen Betts
maybe you could get a CB? those things don't broadcast at 20-1000Hz
though, they're up around 27Mhz, it's imperfections in the amplifier
that cause the CB transmission to come out the loudspeaker.
Bye.
Jasen
Jasen Betts
> sayd the following:
>
>>(x) Laws already exist that forbid your neighbor from being a jerk
>
> I fear retaliation if I were to report the noise to the police.
> Someone who is already violating a noise ordinance law won't be to shy
> from violating yet another law.
so instead you propose to violate a different law in retalliation?
you'd do better to throw a brick with a note through his window.
it's cheaper and you have less chance of being caught.
Bye.
Jasen
Jasen Betts
> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>
> I have a couple of hundred dollars to spend on this project and also
> have a lot of free time these days on my hands.
>
> As far as a electrical power source I have up to the 110 volts coming
> into my home as a source and as low as a 1.5 volt battery. I also have
> a power supply that mimics a standard car battery's 12 volts of power.
with that budget I think you'd have to connect the device directly to
the speaker.
> Can one of you get me started with the basics so that I can eventually
> build such a device?
I'm not certain what you are trying to achieve. If you are frustrated
by moving noise machines then I don't think a technological solution
will serve you well. anything strong enough to stop them will be illegal
and easily detected.
> Another Thing: I used a computer program many years ago that simulated
> a very simple circuit to check for faults and errors. Does such a
> program exist today in the Windows environment for simple designs
> which is free or nearly free to troubleshoot the project to save as
> much money as possible? I'd hate to spend $100 on parts and have it
> blow up just because I made some rookie mistake if you understand what
> I mean?
ltspice http://www.linear.com/designtools/softwareRegistration.jsp
it'll not protect you from all rookie mistakes because no simulation
is perfect.
> sci.electronics.basics AND sci.electronics.design
probably best to stick to the basics group for now.
Bye.
Jasen
David L. Jones
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:20:21 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
>
> >20 Hz to 1KHz is only going to get into the speaker through wires. (barring
> >extreme magnetic energy to pull the cone out at 100 yards:-) )
>
> I just need less than 200 feet of distance to transmit a simple sin
> wave noise overlapping the stereo speakers inside a car driving by the
> house.
That simply is not going to work.
You are wasting your time even talking about such an approach.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?
Can I suggest road spikes that are triggered by sound level :-)
Dave.
Jamie
I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people
farting in public!.
I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
I must do to let loss so that I don't become
socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
your part.
Jamie
> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>
> I have a couple of hundred dollars to spend on this project and also
> have a lot of free time these days on my hands.
>
> As far as a electrical power source I have up to the 110 volts coming
> into my home as a source and as low as a 1.5 volt battery. I also have
> a power supply that mimics a standard car battery's 12 volts of power.
>
> Can one of you get me started with the basics so that I can eventually
> build such a device?
>
> It's not for a job or college project and it is simply my need to
> understand and learn this concept if possible.
>
> I do know how to read simple, very simple, schematics.
>
> Another Thing: I used a computer program many years ago that simulated
> a very simple circuit to check for faults and errors. Does such a
> program exist today in the Windows environment for simple designs
> which is free or nearly free to troubleshoot the project to save as
> much money as possible? I'd hate to spend $100 on parts and have it
> blow up just because I made some rookie mistake if you understand what
> I mean?
>
Read that to get some idea of what you're up against.
Eeyore
Jamie wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Robert Blass wrote:
> >
> >>No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by
> >
> > Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
> > audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
> > this.
>
> I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people
> farting in public!.
>
> I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
> now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
> I must do to let loss so that I don't become
> socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
> your part.
Hardly. I go to rock gigs still.
Maybe you've never met the type who claim to 10kW stereos in their cars ?
Graham
Jamie
Not likely, because I normally associate with realistic people. I have
run into on occasion those claiming massive power rated systems in
their auto's only to find they don't know enough about the subject
matter to give an accurate report or have been miss led by those that
take advantage of the unknowing.
Eeyore
Jamie wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Jamie wrote:
> >>Eeyore wrote:
> >>>Robert Blass wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by
> >>>
> >>>Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
> >>>audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
> >>>this.
> >>
> >> I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people
> >>farting in public!.
> >>
> >> I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
> >>now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
> >> I must do to let loss so that I don't become
> >>socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
> >>your part.
> >
> >
> > Hardly. I go to rock gigs still.
> >
> > Maybe you've never met the type who claim to 10kW stereos in their cars ?
>
> Not likely, because I normally associate with realistic people.
I said nothing about *associating* with them. Just hearing them pass by. The
only blessing is that they'll pay by being deaf by about 30.
> I have run into on occasion those claiming massive power rated systems in
> their auto's only to find they don't know enough about the subject
> matter to give an accurate report or have been miss led by those that
> take advantage of the unknowing.
This much is true. There are still some absurd power figures out there though.
Graham
T
bl...@messenger.xcx says...
> >> I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
> >> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> >
>
>
> Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
> road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
> on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
> position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.
>
> I'm not talking about broadcasting for a large distance. I'd just like
> to broadcast 100-200 feet toward the road is all.
That's ok, drive through a parking lot and key up on the 2m band and
you'll set off pretty much every car alarm you drive by.
I know it used to be prevalent with Ford vehicles since they used TRW
built systems that weren't the best shielded.
T
bl...@messenger.xcx says...
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:35:40 -0500, "amdx" <am...@knology.net> sayd the
> following:
>
> >
> >"Robert Blass" <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
> >news:i8msd491di2ol26le...@xxx.org...
> >> high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
>
> No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by, also
> the same system for people who live 2 houses away from me.
>
> I have nothing against loud music but this is literally shaking the
> entire house, you can feel it deep into your own body. I don't think
> that's fair so I'd like to see how they would feel.
>
> If it's ok for them to interfere with me then they should be willing
> to let me do the same thing.
>
>
What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.
Michael A. Terrell
T wrote:
>
> What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.
What he really needs is a pair of balls.
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> T wrote:
>> What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.
>
>
> What he really needs is a pair of balls.
And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA
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---
Energetic Metal Projectile?
Perhaps one of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG
fired from one of these:
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JF
Ken S. Tucker
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com>
> sayd the following:
>
> >( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
> > I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
> >( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
> >(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
> >it
>
> Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
> send thumping music to the inside of my home?
> I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
> and rattles all the windows in my house.
>
> make me a stupid person.
>
> Would you call a victim of an assault stupid for purchasing a gun and
> obtaining a conceal and carry permit?
>
> I should have the right to have a quiet setting "inside" my own home.
> I am not asking for silence outdoors or anywhere else.
Maybe he's a veteran.
I'd cut slack on Fri. Sat. nights.
> The people who are doing this are gangbangers and would likely
> retaliate with violence if they found out I was the one who kept
> calling the police.
>
> To start, I shouldn't be the one needing to do anything at all.
> Wishing to have a silent 'inside' home is not what I would call a
> bizarre concept.
We have a "deaf guy" who thumps as he drives around
it's kinda funny.
For the protection of you and your neighbours
it's been known to install an exterior smoke
detector, that requires a lead into the interior
for the test control.
Loud noise has been known to activate an SD,
which you can 'test' for.
Legally defensive counter noise is an option.
Ken
George Jetson
"Jasen Betts" <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote in message news:gbn2p0$u8c$3@gonzo...
Use a microwave oven with door removed, placed at the end of your driveway.
Check for pacemakers in the neighborhood first. Use only in short bursts as
local radio and Tv interference will be severe.
If you can't figure out how the door interlock switches work by yourself,
then you don't have the skills to pull this off.
Den
"George Jetson" <gje...@spacely.com> wrote in message
news:BzZDk.2033$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
Just leave the door on & use a jigsaw or sabre saw to cut the window out.
Michael A. Terrell
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > T wrote:
> >> What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.
> >
> >
> > What he really needs is a pair of balls.
>
> And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA
The gun is optional. I've always preferred a big knife, like a bank
blade but a gun works, in a pinch.
John Fields
<dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> T wrote:
>>> What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.
>>
>>
>> What he really needs is a pair of balls.
>
>And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA
---
Well, in retrospect, guns _have_ served us well and they continue to.
Early on, when we audaciously wanted freedom from British oppression and
couldn't gain it using polite discourse, we used the gun to gain our
freedom.
Then, at your request and through two world wars, we also used the gun
to help quell the histrionics which perpetually plagued Europe and which
eventually brought you all to the modicum of civility which has allowed
you to become the United States of Europe, begrudgingly a model of the
United States of America.
JF
Eric
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>> T wrote:
>>>> What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.
>>>
>>> What he really needs is a pair of balls.
>> And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA
>
>
> The gun is optional. I've always preferred a big knife, like a bank
> blade but a gun works, in a pinch.
>
>
Ken S. Tucker
> "George Jetson" <gjet...@spacely.com> wrote in message
LOL, what does the neighbours cat smell like when
microwaved ... hot pussy?
Ken
Rich Grise
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:20:21 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
>
>>extreme magnetic energy to pull the cone out at 100 yards:-) )
>
> I just need less than 200 feet of distance to transmit a simple sin
> wave noise overlapping the stereo speakers inside a car driving by the
> house.
It can't be done. You have to have them arrested, or just shoot them
yourself.
Good Luck!
Rich
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
LOL!
Robert Baer
>
> Robert Baer wrote:
>
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>Robert Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Robert Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>>>>>>high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
>>>>road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
>>>>on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
>>>>position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.
>>>
>>>
>>>Basically yout hi-fis were shit and had no EMC capability.
>>
>> Solid State electronics inherently have low EMC tolerance; Vacuum
>>Power on the other hand had a much higher EMC tolerance.
>
>
> Only because the higher rectification threshold makes it more tolerant.
>
> I've designed pro-audio mixers that we tested for EMC sensitivity in the CB
> band by using a handset right next to one. Not a sqeak. It's simply good
> (grounding) design that's needed.
>
> Graham
>
>
Check!
Robert Blass
<tomb...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
>This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
peace.
It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
David L. Jones
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
>
> >This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
>
> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
> peace.
>
> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
It's not an electrical question any more because it can't be done.
> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
>
> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
solve by electronic means.
If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
Dave.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
An EMP generator would solve it.
Michael A. Terrell
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> > On Oct 3, 2:24 pm, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
> >> <tombi...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
> >>
> >>> This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
> >> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
> >> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
> >> peace.
> >>
> >> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
> >
> > It's not an electrical question any more because it can't be done.
> >
> >> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
> >> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
> >>
> >> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
> >> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
> >> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
> >
> > No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
> > solve by electronic means.
> > If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
>
> An EMP generator would solve it.
Only by commiting another crime.
Michael A. Terrell
We always laugh at morons who want to do the impossible. A single
wavelength at 20 Hz is 15,000,000 meters. A quarter wave antenna would
be 3,750,000 (Ignoring the velocity factor of the wire). Can you build
an antenna that size, and one on the moving vehicle?
If there are really 100 per night, the police department would have
had thousands of phone calls by now so it's time to petition the local
government to pass a noise ordinance, or to enforce the existing
laws...there you go.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> David L. Jones wrote:
>>> On Oct 3, 2:24 pm, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
>>>> <tombi...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
>>>>
>>>>> This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
>>>> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
>>>> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
>>>> peace.
>>>>
>>>> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
>>> It's not an electrical question any more because it can't be done.
>>>
>>>> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
>>>> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
>>>> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
>>>> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
>>> No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
>>> solve by electronic means.
>>> If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
>> An EMP generator would solve it.
>
>
> Only by commiting another crime.
So? If I was in his position that fact would not bother me in the least.
Michael A. Terrell
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> >> David L. Jones wrote:
> >>> On Oct 3, 2:24 pm, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
> >>>> <tombi...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
> >>>> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
> >>>> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
> >>>> peace.
> >>>>
> >>>> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
> >>> It's not an electrical question any more because it can't be done.
> >>>
> >>>> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
> >>>> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
> >>>> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
> >>>> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
> >>> No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
> >>> solve by electronic means.
> >>> If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
> >> An EMP generator would solve it.
> >
> >
> > Only by commiting another crime.
>
> So? If I was in his position that fact would not bother me in the least.
So, it's ok to use EMP which is more likely to takes out other
electronics that use legal means? Even if it destroys someone's
pacemaker, or other life critical electronics? What a low life coward.
David L. Jones
wrote:
> David L. Jones wrote:
> > On Oct 3, 2:24 pm, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
> >> <tombi...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
>
> >>> This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
> >> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
> >> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
> >> peace.
>
> >> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
>
> > It's not an electrical question any more because it can't be done.
>
> >> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
> >> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
>
> >> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
> >> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
> >> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
>
> > No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
> > solve by electronic means.
> > If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
>
> An EMP generator would solve it.
Road spikes would be much more satisfying if you want to go the
illegal route.
Dave.
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
>
>
> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
> peace.
>
> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
>
> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
>
> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
Then get a gun, and when you hear them coming down the street, you
confront them with this 12-gauge or whatever, and say, "Keep the noise
down."
If they don't turn it down or off, start shooting up their car.
Good Luck!
Rich
JosephKK
>>Robert Blass wrote:
>>>I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
>>>high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
>>>Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.
>>>
>amdx wrote:
>>So, is this a neighbor that has the volume [too] loud for you?
>> Mike
>
>That's what occurred to me as well.
>Here's the boilerplate, filled out:
>
>Your solution advocates a
>(x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (x) vigilante
>approach to solving a problem with a noisy neighbor.
>
>Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work.
>(One or more of the following may apply to your idea,
>and it may have other flaws.)
>(x) Technology doesn't work the way you think it does
>
>Specifically, your plan fails to account for:
>(x) Extreme misunderstanding of technology
>(x) Lack of susceptibility of the system to your method of attack
>(x) Laws already exist that forbid your neighbor from being a jerk
>(x) The police don't take kindly to vigilantes
>(x) Having assholes arrested works much better
>
>The following philosophical objections may also apply:
>(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with,
> yet none have ever been shown practical
>(x) Countermeasures must not affect *other* neighbors' gear
>
>Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
>( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
> I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
>( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
>(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
>it
>( ) Nice try, asshat! I'm going to find out where you live
> and burn your house down!
Crickey, you are being a prunt.
Jim Thompson
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:13:45 -0700, JosephKK <quiett...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
JeffM is a leftist weenie... need we say more?
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Liberals are so cute. Dumb as a box of rocks, but cute.
Robert Blass
<nu...@example.net> sayd the following:
>Then get a gun, and when you hear them coming down the street, you
>confront them with this 12-gauge or whatever, and say, "Keep the noise
>down."
>
>If they don't turn it down or off, start shooting up their car.
No thanks.
Robert Blass
<alt...@gmail.com> sayd the following:
>No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
>solve by electronic means.
>If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
I know cell phone blockers are sold legally. I just thought a similar
plan could be done is all.
I wasn't interested in some sinister plan to rule the world.
Robert Blass
<alt...@gmail.com> sayd the following:
>On Oct 3, 11:58 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
Why are people suggesting I commit a Felony when at best I wanted to
commit a low level mistaminer<sp> ???
I was serious in my request for help.
And moving isn't a financial option.
I've tried to ignore the noise but everyone has a breaking point.
Robert Blass
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> sayd the following:
>
>Robert Blass wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:02:37 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
>> <tomb...@optonline.net> sayd the following:
>>
>> >This is no longer an electronics issue, its a police matter.
>>
>> It's so good to know we have 100,000,000 on the side of noise
>> polluters and hardly no one on the side of people wanting to live in
>> peace.
>>
>> It was a elec question until someone CHANGED the subject [not me]
>>
>> Hope the ones who thinks this is a joke gets a few drive-by thumping
>> stereos like I do more than 100 times a night.
>>
>> As I said, calling the cops would result it NOTHING. And if they did
>> show up I would face physical retaliation for calling the cops. I
>> wanted a safer solution, I was laughed at...there you go.
>
>
> We always laugh at morons who want to do the impossible. A single
>wavelength at 20 Hz is 15,000,000 meters. A quarter wave antenna would
>be 3,750,000 (Ignoring the velocity factor of the wire). Can you build
>an antenna that size, and one on the moving vehicle?
>
> If there are really 100 per night, the police department would have
>had thousands of phone calls by now so it's time to petition the local
>government to pass a noise ordinance, or to enforce the existing
>laws...there you go.
One of my neighbors [three houses away] IS a police officer for my
city. He has lived there more than 5 years so far and not only has the
noise not stopped it has gotten louder and more of a deeper bass.
With that scenario...what now?
krw
bl...@messenger.xcx says...
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:25:50 -0700 (PDT), "David L. Jones"
> <alt...@gmail.com> sayd the following:
>
> >No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
> >solve by electronic means.
> >If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
>
>
> I know cell phone blockers are sold legally. I just thought a similar
> plan could be done is all.
Hardly. Someone better not have an accident and not be able to call
911 either. Your ass will be nailed to their lawyer's door.
> I wasn't interested in some sinister plan to rule the world.
If you believe that blocking communications is legal, who knows what
foolish plans you have.
--
Keith
Michael A. Terrell
Robert Blass wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> city. He has lived there more than 5 years so far and not only has the
> noise not stopped it has gotten louder and more of a deeper bass.
>
> With that scenario...what now?
With that attitude you might as well just give up. If you don't know
how to move up the food chain, you have no hope. I've had noise
problems, and got them stopped. I've sued politicians and won, as
well. Either you want to stop it and are willing to work for it, or you
aren't. As far as the cop not doing his job, he would have been named
in the lawsuit.
Michael A. Terrell
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
>
> Then get a gun, and when you hear them coming down the street, you
> confront them with this 12-gauge or whatever, and say, "Keep the noise
> down."
>
> If they don't turn it down or off, start shooting up their car.
So, our resident burnt out, alcoholic, hippy libertarian is a wanabe
sniper? It sure doesn't fit with the usual crap you spout.
Robert Blass
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> sayd the following:
>
>Robert Blass wrote:
>>
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>
>> One of my neighbors [three houses away] IS a police officer for my
>> city. He has lived there more than 5 years so far and not only has the
>> noise not stopped it has gotten louder and more of a deeper bass.
>>
>> With that scenario...what now?
>
>
> With that attitude you might as well just give up. If you don't know
>how to move up the food chain, you have no hope. I've had noise
>problems, and got them stopped. I've sued politicians and won, as
>well. Either you want to stop it and are willing to work for it, or you
>aren't. As far as the cop not doing his job, he would have been named
>in the lawsuit.
Sorry but things aren't like the movies in my world. I would likely
receive a beating or even be murdered if I took on gang controlled
areas of town or took on the police department.
Sometimes fighting is far more dangerous than letting it go.
I've known people who simply went to those neighborhood meetings to
discuss the lack of police action. They soon found out that was a bad
idea. Soon they were being pulled over left and right for minor
offences and lost a lot of money. Can you imagine the reaction if I
named them in a lawsuit or went on TV and put down those same cops?
I just wanted to do something to disrupt the people clearly violating
the noise laws we have on the books.
I now know this was not and is not the place to as this 'specific'
question.
I will no longer ask anything about this 'specific' topic here.
These should be satisfactory to all who are here.
Jim Thompson
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:22:31 -0400, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx>
wrote:
Obama will make it OK. The COP will become your "neighborhood
organizer" ;-)
Michael A. Terrell
Then his goons will beat you up.
Michael A. Terrell
Do you really think they wouldn't find out who did it if it was
possible? Or that they wouldn't burn out a couple city blocks to make
sure they got you?
David L. Jones
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:04:39 -0700 (PDT), "David L. Jones"
Because:
a) your low level mistermeaner idea isn't going to work (technically)
b) we like to suggest fun ideas, we cant help ourselves.
> I was serious in my request for help.
And we are serious when we say it's not possible to do what you want.
Dave.
David L. Jones
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:25:50 -0700 (PDT), "David L. Jones"
>
> >No one's laughing at you, we are just telling you it's not possible to
> >solve by electronic means.
> >If you thought it was then you were misinformed.
>
> I know cell phone blockers are sold legally. I just thought a similar
> plan could be done is all.
Fraid not, legal or illegal.
You'd better find another way to solve your problem.
Dave.