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brent  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 3:14 pm
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From: brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:14:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 3:14 pm
Subject: Debate
I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
(e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
long.

 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 3:30 pm
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From: John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 12:30:38 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:14:17 -0700 (PDT), brent

<buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
>the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
>(e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
>empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
>exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
>MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
>long.

Yeah, it is fun to see the liberal press (~~95% of the press)
squirming.

http://www.gocomics.com/badreporter

(link may change daily)

Now that he has his teleprompter fired up, he's fighting back.

Who is Obama anyhow? He reads teleprompters. Who writes that stuff?
It's like he's a robot fronting for some unknown evil genius. It's
hilarious when he speaks to the NAACP. He uses a ludicrous mashup of
ebonics and hill-billy accents, and keeps forgetting to do that now
and then.

--

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser drivers and controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro   acquisition and simulation


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 4:08 pm
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From: Lord Valve <detri...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:08:32 -0600
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

brent wrote:
> I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
> the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
> (e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
> empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
> exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
> MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
> long.

...

However anyone wants to spin it, this fact abides:
Romney could step into the CEO spot of any major
corporation on this planet and be up to speed in
less than a week. O'Butthole, on the other hand,
wouldn't even be qualified to work in the mail room.
And since the business of America is business...
well, you'd think even libtards could figure it out,
but despite their constant claims of mental superiority,
they're still buying that lame hopey-changey horseshit.

<shrug>

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----

Life in the People's Republic of Obamastan's fuckin' grand,
ain't it?

Change *is* coming. Hope you assholes can take it.  If not,
enjoy the camps. 270 million people were murdered by leftists
in the last century.  Think they're finished yet?

Think YOU are immune?

Got guns?  BUY AMMO!

Lord Valve
American - so far


 
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brent  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 4:54 pm
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From: brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 5, 3:30 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On my travels across the state line last week I bought $100 in
firecrackers and other fireworks( big spender-haha ).  I am gonna
light them off all night long if Obama goes down.

I tried to get a bet placed on intrade, but it is too hard to get
money into them.  Pretty much have to wire it in and then I decided
that it may be even harder to get it out.  But last week you could
make $4000 on a $1000 bet (odds at 80% Obama--odds now are about 70%).


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 5:35 pm
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From: Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 5, 10:08 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> brent wrote:
> > I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
> > the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
> > (e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
> > empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
> > exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
> > MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
> > long.

Romney is a plausible liar, and they do do well with teenage girls and
other people who are relatively easy to deceive.

> However anyone wants to spin it, this fact abides:
> Romney could step into the CEO spot of any major
> corporation on this planet and be up to speed in
> less than a week.

Not in Germany, where the CEO is expected to know a fair bit about the
company's products and how they work, or in fact any place where the
CEO is expected to know anything about the company, as opposed to
reading stuff off a prompter and looking impressive.

> O'Butthole, on the other hand,
> wouldn't even be qualified to work in the mail room.

Wrong skin colour?

> And since the business of America is business...

Granting that the US has been running a massive balance of payments
deficit since Regan was president, the "business" of American now
seems to be borrowing money from other countries to pay for its
expensive oil habit.

> well, you'd think even libtards could figure it out,
> but despite their constant claims of mental superiority,
> they're still buying that lame hopey-changey horseshit.

On the other hand, Mitt Romney's claim to business expertise is a bit
thin. He didn't create new businesses, but rather turned around
failing businesses when he could - about half the projects that Bain
Capital took on in the 1990's didn't make them any money. The
successes more than paid for the failures, but it's an open question
whether the disorders that Romney could cure back then are the
disorders that are now troubling the U.S.A. let alone whether a
president has the same kind of leverage with a country that a venture
capitalist has with a failing company.

> <shrug>

> Life in the People's Republic of Obamastan's fuckin' grand,
> ain't it?

> Change *is* coming. Hope you assholes can take it.  If not,
> enjoy the camps. 270 million people were murdered by leftists
> in the last century.

I wonder where he got that number.

http://www.capitalismv3.com/2011/12/25/list-of-20th-century-genocides/

seems to think that his list totals up to 160 million, but by no means
all of the regimes involved were left-wing.

>  Think they're finished yet?

Mao and Stalin are both dead. The denialist attitude to global warming
has a lot in common with their approach to reality, and may yet kill
more people, but that's more a right-wing lunacy.

> Think YOU are immune?

This century's death roll will probably be dominated by the
consequences of run-away global warming, and electing Romney and Ryan
seems unlikely to slow that down at all.

> Got guns?  BUY AMMO!

Don't bother. Shooting people is not an effective way of killing
millions - for that you're much better off relying on starvation.
Having guns may protect you from starvation until you run out of
unarmed neighbours to shoot and eat, but it's probably not the best
way to invest your resources.

--
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 5:40 pm
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From: spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:40:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 5, 1:08 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> brent wrote:
> > I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
> > the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
> > (e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
> > empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
> > exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
> > MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
> > long.

> ...

> However anyone wants to spin it, this fact abides:
> Romney could step into the CEO spot of any major
> corporation on this planet and be up to speed in
> less than a week.

Romney hasn't held a job in six years.He hasn't worked in private
enterprise in thirteen years (four years as government employee and
three working for a non-profit).  He's going to need to get the rust
off before he can be productive again.

> O'Butthole, on the other hand,
> wouldn't even be qualified to work in the mail room.

I see Obama as name partner rainmaker for a law firm, or perhaps Chief
Justice of the Supreme Court, like Taft.

> And since the business of America is business...
> well, you'd think even libtards could figure it out,
> but despite their constant claims of mental superiority,
> they're still buying that lame hopey-changey horseshit.

The "job creators" have been doing fuckall for six years. Time for
them to get off their asses.

 
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Charles  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 5:57 pm
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From: "Charles" <charlesschu...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:57:41 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 5:57 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

"Lord Valve"  wrote in message news:506F3E40.88C11E2E@ix.netcom.com...
brent wrote:
> I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
> the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
> (e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
> empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
> exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
> MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
> long.

...

However anyone wants to spin it, this fact abides:
Romney could step into the CEO spot of any major
corporation on this planet and be up to speed in
less than a week. O'Butthole, on the other hand,
wouldn't even be qualified to work in the mail room.
And since the business of America is business...
well, you'd think even libtards could figure it out,
but despite their constant claims of mental superiority,
they're still buying that lame hopey-changey horseshit.

What abides above is your opinion of two folks who are are both
accomplished, in their own right.

One is clearly better suited to lead good old U.S.A.  AND, thanks be to
democracy, the voters will decide.


 
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Jim Thompson  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 6:14 pm
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From: Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-Web-Site.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:14:18 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:40:59 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888

Interesting to note, you birdbrains are still out in full force... too
stupid to realize, if Obama crashes the economy, it'll be your type
that takes the lumps.

                                        ...Jim Thompson
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John Larkin  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 6:25 pm
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From: John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:25:49 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman

Wrong, as usual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staples_Inc.#History

Staples stores are fun.

--

John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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 More options Oct 5 2012, 6:36 pm
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From: Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:35:56 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

John Larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
> <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

[...]

>> On the other hand, Mitt Romney's claim to business expertise is a bit
>> thin. He didn't create new businesses,

Baloney.

> Wrong, as usual.

Yup!

I have yet to find a client lab where they don't have one of Staples'
"That was easy" buttons. It can really raise someone's hackles if you
come in, correct their loop stability issue they'd wrestled with for a
week, in 10 minutes or so, and then press that button. Of course as a
consultant you aren't supposed to press that button, ever.

At one place they even had them in Spanish.

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Johann Klammer  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 6:55 pm
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From: Johann Klammer <klamm...@NOSPAM.a1.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 00:52:09 +0200
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

brent wrote:
> I certainly enjoyed the debate the other night. How refreshing that
> the moderator did not limit the debate to the democrat talking points
> (e.g... war on women and 47%)! I have known in my gut that president
> empty chair is not very bright and it was ENJOYABLE to see him raw and
> exposed without the media infrastructure propping him up. Watching
> MSNBC after the debate had me giggling like a teenage girl all night
> long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLSlGmVrmuM

 
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John Larkin  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 8:09 pm
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From: John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:09:43 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 15:35:56 -0700, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

One of the challenges in your business is to not make your clients
feel stupid.

I'm having a battle right now. We built a box full of picosecond
stuff. It has seven boards in a rackmount aluminum enclosure and 68
connectors that go out to the world. Every board is multilayer and
every ground plane is hard bolted to the box through metal spacers and
every possible connector shell. It works great, rev A on all the
boards.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53724080/Tem2_Top.jpg

They are demanding that we spin it to float the grounds. They want a
3-part network everywhere we currently have a ground connection

chassis---------+---------4.7M---------+----------pcb ground plane
                |                      |
                |                      |
                |                      |
                +---20R-----10n--------+

which will put all our circuit grounds 200K or so off chassis ground.
The common-mode voltage of all our differential inputs and outputs
become time-dependant crap shoots, and some mishap in the field could
put our board common at line voltage or something. They claim our
scheme "creates ground loops" which is sort of like calling somebody a
racist or a Nazi: the accusation is enough. It's insane.

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http://www.highlandtechnology.com

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 More options Oct 5 2012, 8:30 pm
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From: Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:30:20 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

Sometimes that's a challenge. Like once when I found that the values of
a lot of inductors and such in a design from someone were off ... by an
order of magnitude ... and that's what made it not work. That is very
tough to convey in a quiet way because eventually someone will notice
that "suddenly" the same circuit that never worked does, and it looks
the same as the old one.

> I'm having a battle right now. We built a box full of picosecond
> stuff. It has seven boards in a rackmount aluminum enclosure and 68
> connectors that go out to the world. Every board is multilayer and
> every ground plane is hard bolted to the box through metal spacers and
> every possible connector shell. It works great, rev A on all the
> boards.

> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53724080/Tem2_Top.jpg

Nice. Except I wouldn't use the stick-on cable holders, they tend to
come off after a few years. I'd use good old lacing cord.

> They are demanding that we spin it to float the grounds. They want a
> 3-part network everywhere we currently have a ground connection

> chassis---------+---------4.7M---------+----------pcb ground plane
>                 |                      |
>                 |                      |
>                 |                      |
>                 +---20R-----10n--------+

Ghastly, ghastly.

> which will put all our circuit grounds 200K or so off chassis ground.
> The common-mode voltage of all our differential inputs and outputs
> become time-dependant crap shoots, and some mishap in the field could
> put our board common at line voltage or something. They claim our
> scheme "creates ground loops" which is sort of like calling somebody a
> racist or a Nazi: the accusation is enough. It's insane.

Well, there is stuff where I politely decline. This would be one such
case. It's almost the same as asking a car mechanic to put molasses into
the motor instead of 5W-30 oil because it's "more organic". If he has
good ethics he'll decline the job.

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Jim Thompson  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 8:34 pm
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:34:46 -0700
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:30:20 -0700, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I have been known to insist that the client sign-off on the way they
want it done.  Often they'll panic and back down when they have to
assume responsibility.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com  
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 9:10 pm
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From: bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:10:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

You're an ignorant idiot, all you want is the GOP in control to increase the spending of your client base.

"Staples as one of the 50 largest low-wage employers in the US. The company has continued to turn high profits even in the recession, and its CEO made $8.8 million in 2011 (which was a 40 percent drop from what he made in 2010). And yet most of its nearly 33,000 employees make less than $10 per hour."

If Staples is what American business is about, it's time for this country hang it up.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/low-wages-romneys-go-example-...

Here's more about your success story:
"Staples Inc., Romney’s much-discussed business venture, also has been hit by a successful whistleblower (“qui tam”) action. In 2005, Staples paid $7.5 million to the federal government to settle a whistleblower “qui tam” lawsuit that the Justice Department joined.

Whistleblowers alleged that from 2000 to 2003 — while Romney was on Staples’ board of directors — Staples sold the federal government office supply products that were manufactured in China and Taiwan rather than in countries that have trade agreements with the U.S., as required by the company’s contract with the government. "

Here's more on your scam-artist, recent:
"One hundred seventy workers at a Sensata Technologies plant in Freeport, Illinois, of which Bain is the majority owner, are calling on Romney to help save their jobs from being shipped to China. The plant manufactures sensors and controls that are used in aircraft and automobiles, but has been dismantling and shipping the plant to China piece by piece, even as it requires the workers to train personally their Chinese replacements, who have been flown in by management. The workers in Illinois say their petition of 35,000 signatures, as well as their multiple visits to Romney’s headquarters, have fallen on deaf ears, so they’re taking their plea straight to Romney here at that Republican National Convention."

There's no end to all the shady underhanded dealings of these low lifes. And for a bunch of people claiming to be so independent and taking responsibility for themselves and less government spending, they sure do a LOT of business with the Federal government


 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 9:31 pm
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From: bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: Debate

-the Holodomor in Ukraine in the winter of 1932-1933, a man-made (Soviet) famine to crush the Ukrainian resistance to agricultural collectivization. Given the statistics of the average Ukrainian farm family, 80% of estimated 12 million deaths due to starvation were children. And Ukraine has the richest agricultural soil in Europe, it was known as the breadbasket of Europe. They also pulled the same thing in Kazakhstan at about the same time.

 
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 More options Oct 5 2012, 9:44 pm
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From: brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:44:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 5 2012 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 5, 9:31 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

Why do you think right wing "wacko's" want their guns?  We will go
down with a fight and some dignity before we watch our kids starve to
death.

Can't happen here?  Obama has taken us about two steps removed from
this crap.  We used to be about 5 steps removed.


 
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 More options Oct 6 2012, 2:23 am
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From: miso <m...@sushi.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 23:23:11 -0700
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2012 2:23 am
Subject: Re: Debate
It is a zero sum game. Staple merely put other stores out of business.
Willard did not create any jobs.

At the worst point, it was something like 28 lies in 38 minutes. It is
clear that somebody programmed the Willard-bot's USB flash drive to
pretend to be a moderate, but that lead to all the lies.

Well with unemployment down to 7.8%, Willard is toast.


 
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 More options Oct 6 2012, 4:35 am
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From: Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 6, 2:09 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

I had to cope with ground loops and the noise involved in our
1988-1991 electron beam tester.

We made all our inputs and clocks differential, and I went to the
trouble of devising a differential video driver that took video output
across an isolation barrier without introducing any ground loops. Data
transfer was across a galvanically isolated TaxiChip interface.

Your customers probably aren't insane, but they will need to be rich
to get someone to re-engineer your system with effective isolation.

Just floating everything won't do it. You can buy BNC sockets with the
ground isolated from chassis, but floating the ground of SMA/SMB
connectors requires you to isolate a chunks of the case-work - messy
and bulky - and you've got to tie the metal to a safety ground with
something like inverse-parallel diodes.

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 4:35 am
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From: Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:35:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 6, 12:36 am, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> John Larkin wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT),BillSloman
> > <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

> [...]

> >> On the other hand, Mitt Romney's claim to business expertise is a bit
> >> thin. He didn't create new businesses,

> Baloney.

> > Wrong, as usual.

> Yup!

Joerg is smarter than John Larkin, but English is not his first
language, and the exact meaning of the word "create" may have escaped
him. Finding the capital to support people who have had a good idea is
a useful - in fact a crucial - activity, but it's acting as a mid-wife
rather than a creator.

<snip>

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 4:36 am
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From: Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:36:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 6, 12:25 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
wrote:

You'd like to think so, but if you had a better grasp of what words
mean you realise that your claim is - as usual - fatuous.

Perhaps, but the history you cite doesn't make Mitt Romney the creator
of that particular business. Bain Capital were the venture capitalists
that got it going, and deserve credit for recognising that the people
who created the business had had a good idea, but they were more
midwives than parents.

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 4:43 am
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From: Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 6, 3:44 am, brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

Dead is dead. Whether you've staved it off a few weeks by shooting and
eating your unarmed neighbours won't make a shred of difference to
your kid's survival, though it may turn them into psychotic lunatics
in the process.

As I said, buying guns and ammunition isn't going to be the best way
to invest your resources.

> Can't happen here?  Obama has taken us about two steps removed from
> this crap.  We used to be about 5 steps removed.

Care to list the steps? We could use some comic nonsense to lighten
the tone.

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 4:48 am
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 01:48:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 6, 12:14 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-

Jim-out-of-touch-with-reality-Thompson is too pig-ignorant to realise
that Dubbya did crash the economy, Obama is doing what he can -
despite the activities of the Tea Party in Congress to get it going
again, and that nobody here seems to have suffered much from Dubbya's
crash, and would presumably be equally immune from the crash that Jim
fondly imagines that Obama has in petto (despite having got the
unemployment rate down to 7.8% this month).

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 More options Oct 6 2012, 7:37 am
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 04:37:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Debate
On Oct 6, 4:48 am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

The foundation of an economy rests on food and energy.  On the energy
front Obama is doing everything possible to stymie energy production.
On the food front they are trying to regulate independent farmers out
of business.  And that is just the start.

 
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 More options Oct 6 2012, 8:56 am
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From: bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 05:56:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 6 2012 8:56 am
Subject: Re: Debate

When it comes to government regulation, agriculture is one area where they have actually saved your butt 10x over. If it was up to an unbridled 'independent' farmer this country would have no topsoil left, these are the people who brought you the dust bowl and destroyed huge swaths of arable land in this country. The US Dept Agriculture, although less than ideal, is the undisputed world leader in research and promulgation of best agricultural practices. Most recently they are making fantastic strides in cover crop land rejuvenation technology that is vastly reducing the requirements for petroleum industry based fertilizers.

 
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