> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:52:42 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Folks,
>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>> a problem and needs to close".
>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
> Something is odd. I just clicked "Check for Updates" and it says I
> have the latest... and I have version 5.10.0.116.
> You must have the worm version... you know, the version that sends all
> your designs to the competition >:-}
> ...Jim Thompson
Actually, I think you have the worms. See a Veterinarian.
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:52:42 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Folks,
>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>> a problem and needs to close".
>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
> Something is odd. I just clicked "Check for Updates" and it says I
> have the latest... and I have version 5.10.0.116.
> You must have the worm version... you know, the version that sends all
> your designs to the competition >:-}
The designs are not on the machine :-)
6.0.0.120 is the newest. This was just corroborted by Skype support via
email. They pointed me to this site that has all the versions from
newest back to the one the Pilgirms brought over:
> What I don't know is whether this download site is safe.
Well, you can never be truely 'safe', but if anecdotes are any help, I've used that site before. Believe I was downgrading from Acrobat Reader 8 (new crap) to v.5 (somewhat more stable, doesn't support new PDFs). That was before I discovered Foxit (haven't seen it crash yet, supports new PDFs), of course. :)
>> What I don't know is whether this download site is safe.
> Well, you can never be truely 'safe', but if anecdotes are any help, I've > used that site before. Believe I was downgrading from Acrobat Reader 8 > (new crap) to v.5 (somewhat more stable, doesn't support new PDFs). That > was before I discovered Foxit (haven't seen it crash yet, supports new > PDFs), of course. :)
Yup, I also use Foxit. It does have two downside, doesn't render quite
as well and also doesn't allow PDF thumbnails in directories (that was
is a major shortcoming).
But ... it doesn't crash much and that's key. My tolerance level for
poorly written or notoriously crashing software is very low.
> >> What I don't know is whether this download site is safe.
> > Well, you can never be truely 'safe', but if anecdotes are any help, I've
> > used that site before. Believe I was downgrading from Acrobat Reader 8
> > (new crap) to v.5 (somewhat more stable, doesn't support new PDFs). That
> > was before I discovered Foxit (haven't seen it crash yet, supports new
> > PDFs), of course. :)
> Yup, I also use Foxit. It does have two downside, doesn't render quite
> as well and also doesn't allow PDF thumbnails in directories (that was
> is a major shortcoming).
> But ... it doesn't crash much and that's key. My tolerance level for
> poorly written or notoriously crashing software is very low.
I have foxit and pdfs does show as small thumbnails of the first page
> Yup, I also use Foxit. It does have two downside, doesn't render quite
> as well and also doesn't allow PDF thumbnails in directories (that was
> is a major shortcoming).
True, I've noticed it seems to make Computer Modern look bold on every other page. Antialiasing error?
I've never had thumbnail PDFs so I can't complain :)
> Robert Macy wrote:
> > On Nov 9, 5:04 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
> > Web-Site.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:52:42 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
> >>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
> >>> a problem and needs to close".
> >>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
> >>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
> >>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
> >>> poof ... Skype is gone.
> >>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
> >>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
> >>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
> >> Huh? The latest version is 5.10.0.116 (as far as I know, I get
> >> automatic updates).
> >> Based on your prior complaints I'd guess it to be just a Joergasm...
> >> nothing is going to work properly for you >:-}
> >> There _was_ a bad release, which was corrected the next day. Maybe
> >> you should seek out ~v5 and start from there. Do you know to turn off
> >> virus checkers and all active programs prior to an install, so that
> >> all DLL's are up to date?
> >> ...Jim Thompson
> >> --
> >> | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
> >> | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
> >> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
> >> | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
> >> | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
> >> | E-mail Icon athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| 1962 |
> >> I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> > I have the SAME version and just got it for the WinXP [ptui!, curse be
> > gone!] in October to join in conference calling.
> > Skype works after a fashion using dial up, just requires patience. But
> > we tested it, had few drop outs, so went on to sign up for the
> > conference calls through the required google access, well google, in
> > the all pervasive intelligence, said dial up is too slow and won't
> > even let me connect! with skype. It probably wouldn't be too slow if
> > google didn't hog all the bandwidth for ???
> It requires Google access? Didn't say that when installing. I don't even
> use Google as a search engine. Do you remember what sort of access?
I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
together and it works fine.
langw...@fonz.dk wrote:
> On 11 Nov., 02:32, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Tim Williams wrote:
>>> "Joerg" <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:ag822uFi3oaU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> http://www.oldapps.com/skype.php >>>> What I don't know is whether this download site is safe.
>>> Well, you can never be truely 'safe', but if anecdotes are any help, I've
>>> used that site before. Believe I was downgrading from Acrobat Reader 8
>>> (new crap) to v.5 (somewhat more stable, doesn't support new PDFs). That
>>> was before I discovered Foxit (haven't seen it crash yet, supports new
>>> PDFs), of course. :)
>> Yup, I also use Foxit. It does have two downside, doesn't render quite
>> as well and also doesn't allow PDF thumbnails in directories (that was
>> is a major shortcoming).
>> But ... it doesn't crash much and that's key. My tolerance level for
>> poorly written or notoriously crashing software is very low.
> I have foxit and pdfs does show as small thumbnails of the first page
Tim Williams wrote:
> "Joerg" <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:ag8di9Fkd9nU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Yup, I also use Foxit. It does have two downside, doesn't render quite
>> as well and also doesn't allow PDF thumbnails in directories (that was
>> is a major shortcoming).
> True, I've noticed it seems to make Computer Modern look bold on every > other page. Antialiasing error?
> I've never had thumbnail PDFs so I can't complain :)
When you do EMC failure diagnosis you'd really, really miss those
thumbnails :-)
Robert Macy wrote:
> On Nov 10, 12:37 pm, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Robert Macy wrote:
>>> On Nov 9, 5:04 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
>>> Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:52:42 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>>>>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>>>>> a problem and needs to close".
>>>>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>>>>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>>>>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>>>>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>>>>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>>>>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>>>>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
>>>> Huh? The latest version is 5.10.0.116 (as far as I know, I get
>>>> automatic updates).
>>>> Based on your prior complaints I'd guess it to be just a Joergasm...
>>>> nothing is going to work properly for you >:-}
>>>> There _was_ a bad release, which was corrected the next day. Maybe
>>>> you should seek out ~v5 and start from there. Do you know to turn off
>>>> virus checkers and all active programs prior to an install, so that
>>>> all DLL's are up to date?
>>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>> --
>>>> | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
>>>> | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
>>>> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
>>>> | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
>>>> | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
>>>> | E-mail Icon athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| 1962 |
>>>> I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
>>> I have the SAME version and just got it for the WinXP [ptui!, curse be
>>> gone!] in October to join in conference calling.
>>> Skype works after a fashion using dial up, just requires patience. But
>>> we tested it, had few drop outs, so went on to sign up for the
>>> conference calls through the required google access, well google, in
>>> the all pervasive intelligence, said dial up is too slow and won't
>>> even let me connect! with skype. It probably wouldn't be too slow if
>>> google didn't hog all the bandwidth for ???
>> It requires Google access? Didn't say that when installing. I don't even
>> use Google as a search engine. Do you remember what sort of access?
> The conference calling service uses google access
Thanks. I thought one needed that for Skype.
> I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
> part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
> slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
> individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
> expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
> repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
> together and it works fine.
Well, I installed an older version I got from Jim ... it still no work!
Except now the SW blitzes off instantly instead of staying on as long as
I don't touch anything in the error message.
Sent an email to Skype support but I guess right now that has them
stumped. No answer yet.
>> The conference calling service uses google access
>Thanks. I thought one needed that for Skype.
>> I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
>> part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
>> slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
>> individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
>> expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
>> repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
>> together and it works fine.
>Well, I installed an older version I got from Jim ... it still no work!
>Except now the SW blitzes off instantly instead of staying on as long as
>I don't touch anything in the error message.
>Sent an email to Skype support but I guess right now that has them
>stumped. No answer yet.
You clearly have some conflicts... probably registry and/or DLL
related.
I'm still betting it's CRAPTURE >:-}
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:10:31 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Robert Macy wrote:
> [snip]
>>> The conference calling service uses google access
>> Thanks. I thought one needed that for Skype.
>>> I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
>>> part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
>>> slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
>>> individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
>>> expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
>>> repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
>>> together and it works fine.
>> Well, I installed an older version I got from Jim ... it still no work!
>> Except now the SW blitzes off instantly instead of staying on as long as
>> I don't touch anything in the error message.
>> Sent an email to Skype support but I guess right now that has them
>> stumped. No answer yet.
> You clearly have some conflicts... probably registry and/or DLL
> related.
I guess so. I saw on the web that lots of people have found Skype to
cause DEP errors. DEP is part of modern processors (Intel and AMD), so
not part of any of my firewall protections.
> I'm still betting it's CRAPTURE >:-}
But the rental license ran out a long time ago, it never starts anymore.
I kept it on the PC in case I ever want to use it as a viewer (Cadence
said viewer use is ok). Maybe I better nuke it then? Haven't ever needed
it as a viewer so far because, not surprisingly, not too many clients
use Orcad anymore.
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:10:31 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> Robert Macy wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> The conference calling service uses google access
>>> Thanks. I thought one needed that for Skype.
>>>> I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
>>>> part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
>>>> slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
>>>> individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
>>>> expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
>>>> repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
>>>> together and it works fine.
>>> Well, I installed an older version I got from Jim ... it still no work!
>>> Except now the SW blitzes off instantly instead of staying on as long as
>>> I don't touch anything in the error message.
>>> Sent an email to Skype support but I guess right now that has them
>>> stumped. No answer yet.
>> You clearly have some conflicts... probably registry and/or DLL
>> related.
>I guess so. I saw on the web that lots of people have found Skype to
>cause DEP errors. DEP is part of modern processors (Intel and AMD), so
>not part of any of my firewall protections.
>> I'm still betting it's CRAPTURE >:-}
>But the rental license ran out a long time ago, it never starts anymore.
>I kept it on the PC in case I ever want to use it as a viewer (Cadence
>said viewer use is ok). Maybe I better nuke it then? Haven't ever needed
>it as a viewer so far because, not surprisingly, not too many clients
>use Orcad anymore.
Maybe you need to scrub that PC and re-install everything. You seem
to have issues that only a few others report... you're definitely in
the minority with a number of issues.
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:51:51 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:10:31 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Robert Macy wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>>> The conference calling service uses google access
>>>> Thanks. I thought one needed that for Skype.
>>>>> I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
>>>>> part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
>>>>> slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
>>>>> individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
>>>>> expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
>>>>> repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
>>>>> together and it works fine.
>>>> Well, I installed an older version I got from Jim ... it still no work!
>>>> Except now the SW blitzes off instantly instead of staying on as long as
>>>> I don't touch anything in the error message.
>>>> Sent an email to Skype support but I guess right now that has them
>>>> stumped. No answer yet.
>>> You clearly have some conflicts... probably registry and/or DLL
>>> related.
>> I guess so. I saw on the web that lots of people have found Skype to
>> cause DEP errors. DEP is part of modern processors (Intel and AMD), so
>> not part of any of my firewall protections.
>>> I'm still betting it's CRAPTURE >:-}
>> But the rental license ran out a long time ago, it never starts anymore.
>> I kept it on the PC in case I ever want to use it as a viewer (Cadence
>> said viewer use is ok). Maybe I better nuke it then? Haven't ever needed
>> it as a viewer so far because, not surprisingly, not too many clients
>> use Orcad anymore.
> Maybe you need to scrub that PC and re-install everything. ...
Most definitely not for something like Skype. That would kill a whole
day, with the usual license server hiccups and all.
> ... You seem
> to have issues that only a few others report... you're definitely in
> the minority with a number of issues.
Not according to the Internet. After voting Orcad and Acrobat Reader off
the island there is no other software that causes any such problems.
I'll see if I can convince my client to use a web conference service of
better quality. If not I'll load the new version again. That one at
least won't nuke itself until I click something in the error message
box. So the error box will become the "new shut down button".
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 09:51:51 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:10:31 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Robert Macy wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> The conference calling service uses google access
>>>>> Thanks. I thought one needed that for Skype.
>>>>>> I've already got an account there, so I was 'supposed' to be listed as
>>>>>> part of this conference call, but google says that my dial upis too
>>>>>> slow and won't list me. Although I can call the participants
>>>>>> individually using skype and it works better than I expected. I
>>>>>> expected gaps and breaks and multiple sentences, repeating and
>>>>>> repeating, but not really. Just speak clearly and run your words
>>>>>> together and it works fine.
>>>>> Well, I installed an older version I got from Jim ... it still no work!
>>>>> Except now the SW blitzes off instantly instead of staying on as long as
>>>>> I don't touch anything in the error message.
>>>>> Sent an email to Skype support but I guess right now that has them
>>>>> stumped. No answer yet.
>>>> You clearly have some conflicts... probably registry and/or DLL
>>>> related.
>>> I guess so. I saw on the web that lots of people have found Skype to
>>> cause DEP errors. DEP is part of modern processors (Intel and AMD), so
>>> not part of any of my firewall protections.
>>>> I'm still betting it's CRAPTURE >:-}
>>> But the rental license ran out a long time ago, it never starts anymore.
>>> I kept it on the PC in case I ever want to use it as a viewer (Cadence
>>> said viewer use is ok). Maybe I better nuke it then? Haven't ever needed
>>> it as a viewer so far because, not surprisingly, not too many clients
>>> use Orcad anymore.
>> Maybe you need to scrub that PC and re-install everything. ...
>Most definitely not for something like Skype. That would kill a whole
>day, with the usual license server hiccups and all.
>> ... You seem
>> to have issues that only a few others report... you're definitely in
>> the minority with a number of issues.
>Not according to the Internet. After voting Orcad and Acrobat Reader off
>the island there is no other software that causes any such problems.
>I'll see if I can convince my client to use a web conference service of
>better quality. If not I'll load the new version again. That one at
>least won't nuke itself until I click something in the error message
>box. So the error box will become the "new shut down button".
And you'll continue to plague us with complaints about crashes ;-)
You should be doing a survey amongst all those with the same kind of
crashes and find the common culprit.
How about a vote here, of regular Skype users?... I AM a regular user,
almost daily... no problems other than occasional crappy sound.
Who has problems, and what is the manifestation?
How many have NO problems?
...Jim Thompson
-- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:54:37 GMT, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote:
>>So why did NetMeeting, NetConnect, Go-To-Meeting and all that work
>>flawlessly right off the bat? I guess they must have done something
>>right. Problem is, when you have many clients they use lots of different
>>web meeting services.
>Pfff. I tell clients to use the phone. Nowadays there are loads of
>telephone conferencing services which are really easy to use. I gave
>up on those netmeeting thingies about a decade ago. Too much wasted
>hours without pay.
>My kids use Skype but they have Windows 7 on their PCs. Dunno how they
>got it to work but it does even on non-administrator accounts.
Not sure what is going on with your install attempts, but for both XP and
7 it just installed and worked for ordinary users for me.
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:08:58 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>langw...@fonz.dk wrote:
>> On 10 Nov., 00:52, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>>> a problem and needs to close".
>>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
>> I think that is usually as sign of a missing or old dotnet framework
>Hmm, I recently updated that. But shouldn't a software be smart enough
>to detect that and signal according instead of just crashing? In
>hardware I'd never get away with "performance" like that.
Not dotnet. It can get screwed up in ways that require a difficult
complete removal and reinstallation. I have had this happen on two
machines and the help for this is mostly pitifully poor. Try MVP.org for
instructions oh how to do this; warning this must be done in a single sit
down session, be fully prepared.
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:41:02 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> "langw...@fonz.dk" wrote:
>>> On 10 Nov., 02:09, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> langw...@fonz.dk wrote:
>>>>> On 10 Nov., 00:52, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>>>>>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>>>>>> a problem and needs to close".
>>>>>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>>>>>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>>>>>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>>>>>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>>>>>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>>>>>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>>>>>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards, Joerg
>>>>>> http://www.analogconsultants.com/ >>>>> I think that is usually as sign of a missing or old dotnet framework
>>>> Hmm, I recently updated that. But shouldn't a software be smart enough
>>>> to detect that and signal according instead of just crashing? In
>>>> hardware I'd never get away with "performance" like that.
>>> you'd think so, but in a way it is understandable that if it
>>> doesn't exist and the OS from before it existed it can't tell you it
>>> is missing it has no idea
>> Microsoft released a bad .net update a few years ago, which screws up
>> a lot of things. They corrected it, but reused the KB number which
>> makes it a ain in the ass to fix without uninstalling all of .net and
>> reinstalling it and hundreds of updates.
>I updated twice this year so should be ok then but .NET in itself is
>rather screwed up. On various occasions I had a message pop up that the
>.NET version was "too new" for this SW to run. So I had to install older
>ones over the new. Crazy.
Michael is right, you have a corrupted dotnet environment. It is a bad
case of rip it out by the roots and reinstall. It will fight you every
step of the way.
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 07:41:02 -0800, Joerg ?inva...@invalid.invalid? wrote:
> >I updated twice this year so should be ok then but .NET in itself is
> >rather screwed up. On various occasions I had a message pop up that the
> >.NET version was "too new" for this SW to run. So I had to install older
> >ones over the new. Crazy.
> Michael is right, you have a corrupted dotnet environment. It is a bad
> case of rip it out by the roots and reinstall. It will fight you every
> step of the way.
I used Revo Uninstaller to clean up a couple computers with .net
problems. It cleaned all traces of .net out of the registry. Start
with the newest version & work your way back till it's all gone. Some
other programs may require repair or reinstallation, because they were
linked to corrupt packages.
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:16:53 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:52:42 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>>> a problem and needs to close".
>>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
>> Something is odd. I just clicked "Check for Updates" and it says I
>> have the latest... and I have version 5.10.0.116.
>> You must have the worm version... you know, the version that sends all
>> your designs to the competition >:-}
>The designs are not on the machine :-)
>6.0.0.120 is the newest. This was just corroborted by Skype support via
>email. They pointed me to this site that has all the versions from
>newest back to the one the Pilgirms brought over:
>What I don't know is whether this download site is safe.
I checked and it seems legit. Doesn't seem to be the same site i used to
use for older software. I am not seeing complaints about it. The site i
remember as being valid, clean and safe is:
>>>> A client asked me to sign up with Skype, so I did. Long story short, it
>>>> sorta works but every time I receive an error box "Skype has encountered
>>>> a problem and needs to close".
>>>> If I do not click "Do not send error report" and leave this error box on
>>>> the desktop I can perform camera and audio tests and browse around in
>>>> the Skype software menues. The millisecond I click "Do not send" ...
>>>> poof ... Skype is gone.
>>>> It's Skype SW version 6.0 and the PC uses XP. Web searched turned up
>>>> only the usual "fix" to wipe and reinstall everything. Done that, no
>>>> improvement. What gives? Older versions more stable?
>> Hmm, I recently updated that. But shouldn't a software be smart enough
>> to detect that and signal according instead of just crashing? In
>> hardware I'd never get away with "performance" like that.
> Not dotnet. It can get screwed up in ways that require a difficult
> complete removal and reinstallation. I have had this happen on two
> machines and the help for this is mostly pitifully poor. Try MVP.org for
> instructions oh how to do this; warning this must be done in a single sit
> down session, be fully prepared.
And I bet after that a lot of other stuff quits working. .NET is one of
the most screwed up pieces of <censored> the software world has ever seen.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:16:50 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> Hmm, I recently updated that. But shouldn't a software be smart enough
>>> to detect that and signal according instead of just crashing? In
>>> hardware I'd never get away with "performance" like that.
>> Not dotnet. It can get screwed up in ways that require a difficult
>> complete removal and reinstallation. I have had this happen on two
>> machines and the help for this is mostly pitifully poor. Try MVP.org for
>> instructions oh how to do this; warning this must be done in a single sit
>> down session, be fully prepared.
>And I bet after that a lot of other stuff quits working. .NET is one of
>the most screwed up pieces of <censored> the software world has ever seen.
Yep. About one step below par for the company that created Vista. The
vulnerability patch rates on it is fearsome.
