That new political party is also interesting.... -- Luhan Monat, "LuhanKnows" At 'Yahoo' dot 'Com' http://members.cox.net/berniekm "The future is not what it used to be."
> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
"NvIOpSRAM for 256GB has the selling price of $50.00 per 1GB."
OK, it's early days yet, but I just bought a 120GB hard disk for 65 UK pounds- say $110. It will be a while before this (untested) technology can compete except for very specialised applications. There's a lot of work with microdrives and flash to be done yet.
> > 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
> "NvIOpSRAM for 256GB has the selling price of $50.00 per 1GB."
> OK, it's early days yet, but I just bought a 120GB hard disk for 65 UK > pounds- say $110. It will be a while before this (untested) technology > can compete except for very specialised applications. There's a lot of > work with microdrives and flash to be done yet.
But this leaves both in the dust. No doubt if this is genuine the only reason it costs $50 per GB is because they can get away with it, being a monopoly and being produced only in small numbers so far.
I would expect the technology to be quite competitive on price with hard drives, if not considerably cheaper. And it wasn't so long ago (6yrs?) that $50 per GB was *cheap*.
>256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
Obvious, semiliterate BS. If they had a breakthrough like this, they certainly wouldn't be selling it retail. And how do you holographically address a terabit of data through an optical fiber?
Nice statuettes and medals, though. Maybe I'll start a foundation, elect myself President, and give myself a lot of awards for innovation.
what you are missing is in the data sheet, it needs a laser scanner to read it out. while galvo scanners are remarkably fast and accosto-optic or electro-optic scanning techniques are even faster, a optically addressed memory is still going to be a bulky pain in the a$$ to build for say the next ten years until polymer based electro-holographic optical switches are perfected. maybe with a MEMS mirror chip as a read out, but addressing the MEMS is not cheap and mems resolution is low unless you can layer their chips in a stack!
the cost quoted is raw chip cost without the laser and scanner factored in. great if you need a huge library of write once read many chips and only one reader, otherwise......................
> > 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
> I vote for bullshit.
> Note the following:
> o The RAM is supposed to operate at 1.4V, yet have TTL compatible > signalling
> o The cycle time is quoted as 1.1ns, which would require different > signalling (TTL levels can't do that speed. You'd need something like > LVDS or ECL).
> o Putting such a fast memory technology into a USB dongle is idiocy.
> o How can a chip with an organization of 32Mx64 come in a package with > 8 pins?
> o There's a certain discrepancy between the claimed ingenuity of their > research and the sophistication of their web page.
> o USA, Israel, Japan, Netherlands, Malaysia, Mexico, Moldova, Tatarstan > -- yeah right!
> o Have you seen any real address, phone number or anything that would > allow tracking the company down?
> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
> Bullshit, hype or revolution?
None of the above. I think it's satire, along the lines of the Signetics "Write-Only-Memory". The ridiculous claims, the funny language and spelling, the two one-man "institutes", etc.
>>256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
>>Bullshit, hype or revolution?
> None of the above. I think it's satire, along the lines of the > Signetics "Write-Only-Memory". The ridiculous claims, > the funny language and spelling, the two one-man "institutes", etc.
I especially like the way image input works on the 'solar image recorder' chip.
I'm sure the person setting it up had a lot of fun!
Zak <s...@jutezak.invalid> wrote in message <news:YTeQb.1065$O41.64224@amstwist00>... > I especially like the way image input works on the 'solar image > recorder' chip.
Actually, in the late 1970's one hobbyist magazine had plans for turning a 4K DRAM chip into a video camera. Pop the top off the chip, expose to light, and the incident photons tended to flip bits asymmetrically.
> Zak <s...@jutezak.invalid> wrote in message <news:YTeQb.1065$O41.64224@amstwist00>... > > I especially like the way image input works on the 'solar image > > recorder' chip.
> Actually, in the late 1970's one hobbyist magazine had plans > for turning a 4K DRAM chip into a video camera. Pop the top off the > chip, expose to light, and the incident photons tended to flip > bits asymmetrically.
> To call it a "recorder" was certainly a stretch!
> Tim.
Byte magazine, Circuit Cellar column
-- We now return you to our normally scheduled programming.
On 23 Jan 2004 17:46:01 -0800, sho...@trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa) wrote:
>Zak <s...@jutezak.invalid> wrote in message <news:YTeQb.1065$O41.64224@amstwist00>... >> I especially like the way image input works on the 'solar image >> recorder' chip.
>Actually, in the late 1970's one hobbyist magazine had plans >for turning a 4K DRAM chip into a video camera. Pop the top off the >chip, expose to light, and the incident photons tended to flip >bits asymmetrically.
>To call it a "recorder" was certainly a stretch!
>Tim.
Why not? After all it use a gold plated audio plug and a jack.
> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
3D halographic storage was invented years ago but it's still not practical for real use. At best you can make a demo of it almost doing something.
It looks like the web page is a humorous joke. The photos are clearly electronics junk chopped up, glued together, and hastily modified with digital photo software. There's a bunch of surface mount resistors, some halographic stickers, a surface mount chip with badly damaged pins, anti-static foam, and what appears to be a microwave filter chassis (cell phone?).
> > 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
> 3D halographic storage was invented years ago but it's still not > practical for real use. At best you can make a demo of it almost doing > something.
> It looks like the web page is a humorous joke. The photos are clearly > electronics junk chopped up, glued together, and hastily modified with > digital photo software. There's a bunch of surface mount resistors, > some halographic stickers, a surface mount chip with badly damaged pins, > anti-static foam, and what appears to be a microwave filter chassis > (cell phone?).
> Lets see which newspapers fall for it.
I came across this from a report of stuff shown at Comdex
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message <news:mcmurtri-36B135.01265924012004@corp-radius.supernews.com>... > It looks like the web page is a humorous joke. The photos are clearly > electronics junk chopped up, glued together, and hastily modified with > digital photo software. There's a bunch of surface mount resistors, > some halographic stickers, a surface mount chip with badly damaged pins, > anti-static foam, and what appears to be a microwave filter chassis > (cell phone?).
> Lets see which newspapers fall for it.
The "Dr. NakaMats", who proudly admits to being one of the five greatest scientific geniuses of all time, seems to be a character not too different than the fictional Buckaroo Banzai. Based on my primitive web searches, he seems to be idolized in Japanese newspapers (where he pontificates on subjects ranging from how great a genius he is to how sex leads to business skills). I assume this is all based entirely on his own self-promotion, although I could be wrong.
> 256GB, all solid state, non volatile, access in nS etc
WOW, I was going to consider that they might have some obscure quantum optics effect, that might be useful in 30 years... that is until I got a load of