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Sy_lvia El_se

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:05:02 PM3/25/09
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My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.

John Larkin

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:54:53 PM3/25/09
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
<syl...@some.other.address> wrote:

>My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.

This one looks OK.

John

Sylvia Else

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:55:32 PM3/25/09
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And this one?

Sylvia.

John Larkin

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:57:10 PM3/25/09
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No, sorry, I didn't see that one.

John


Sylvia Else

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:58:23 PM3/25/09
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John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:55:32 +1100, Sylvia Else
> <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
>>> <syl...@some.other.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.
>>> This one looks OK.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> And this one?
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> No, sorry, I didn't see that one.
>
> John
>
>

Very strange.

Sylvia.

D from BC

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Mar 25, 2009, 11:58:32 PM3/25/09
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
<syl...@some.other.address> wrote:

>My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.

And this week's hijacked test post is about:

God is still #1 on the world class killer list!
It's not Hitler or Stalin.

Somebody added up all the 'direct executions by God' in the bible..
Total: 2301417

Where numbers weren't present in the bible (flood), there's an
estimate of about 33 million people directly executed by God.

Heck God's motto should be:
'I made people for something to kill. Run humans run. Bang!'

It's a good thing there's not a bible 2 otherwise God's death
penalties would be much higher.


D from BC
myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
BC, Canada
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John Larkin

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Mar 26, 2009, 12:03:59 AM3/26/09
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But if He created everyone, He's still net positive.

John

Sylvia Else

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Mar 26, 2009, 12:09:32 AM3/26/09
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Does a birth cancel out a death?

It mirrors the philosphical question about how suffering and existence
should be balanced. Suffering is clearly bad, so we should minimise it.
Or should we? We could eliminate human suffering entirely by
exterminating the human race. But of course, human existence would go
with it.

Sylvia.

D from BC

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Mar 26, 2009, 12:27:07 AM3/26/09
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Yeah.. If not...The last line in the bible might be
'And God killed everybody...What a bummer.'

D from BC

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Mar 26, 2009, 1:02:03 AM3/26/09
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iirc..The world population is increasing.

Suffering can be from environmental and/or psychological effects.
If you live in Iraq, ..you may suffer from car bombs.
If you licked too much lead based paint, .you might suffer from brain
damage.
If the cat died,..you may suffer from 'stupid 15 year cat lifespan'
sadness.

Robert Baer

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Mar 26, 2009, 2:21:51 AM3/26/09
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Sylvia Else wrote:

> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:55:32 +1100, Sylvia Else
>> <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
>>>> <syl...@some.other.address> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.
>>>>
>>>> This one looks OK.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>> And this one?
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>> No, sorry, I didn't see that one.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>
> Very strange.
>
> Sylvia.

So far into this thread i have seen all postings and responses...

Sylvia Else

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Mar 26, 2009, 1:26:39 AM3/26/09
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I was having problems posting to the puzzle thread. Google groups
doesn't see my postings, and I see only the headers.

However, one did get through when I cut out one of the crossposted
groups, and I do vaguely remember someone telling me of a crossposting
issue with my news service, Astraweb.

Sylvia.

The Real Andy

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Mar 26, 2009, 6:31:27 AM3/26/09
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
<syl...@some.other.address> wrote:

>My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.

Test posts are not accepted without a recipe.

Eeyore

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:14:20 AM3/26/09
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Sylvia Else wrote:

I see it.

Graham


Eeyore

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:17:03 AM3/26/09
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Sylvia Else wrote:

Ah ! I use Astraweb too. They only seem to allow crossposting to a maximum
of 3 groups.Probably to discourage Usenet abusers. The only grumble I have
with their service.

Graham

Eeyore

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:18:50 AM3/26/09
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The Real Andy wrote:

Talking of which, we haven't had one recently. Whatever happened to that
?


Graham


Ross Herbert

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:21:15 AM3/26/09
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:58:23 +1100, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address>
wrote:

:John Larkin wrote:
:> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:55:32 +1100, Sylvia Else


I think you've just been had...

If John couldn't see that particular post, then how, or why, did he respond to
it.....?

John Larkin

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Mar 26, 2009, 10:07:08 AM3/26/09
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I think the most troubling issue with the classical concept of an
all-wise, all-knowing, loving God is the immense amount of suffering
bourne by innocents. Children born with horrible diseases, terrible
things done by bad people to good ones, the unaccountably monstrous
human capacity for pain.

John

John Larkin

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Mar 26, 2009, 10:11:24 AM3/26/09
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How about Scorched Romanesco Broccoli?

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/R1.JPG

John


Eeyore

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Mar 26, 2009, 11:43:36 AM3/26/09
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John Larkin wrote:

I thought they were 'fractal' cauliflowers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauliflower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cauliflower_Fractal_AVM.JPG

Graham

Rich Grise

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Mar 26, 2009, 12:43:56 PM3/26/09
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Sloppy Joes

1 lb gr beef
1 1/2 tsp lemon juice
2 tsp vinegar
1 1/2 tbsp water
2/3c ketchup
1 tbsp brown sugar
1 tbsp dry onion
1 tsp dry mustard
1 tsp salt
1/8 tsp black pepper

brown the burger, throw in the
rest of the stuff, simmer to taste.

Serve hot, on buns

Cheers!
Rich

amdx

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Mar 26, 2009, 1:22:41 PM3/26/09
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"John Larkin" <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:ro2ns4tbmdviv59mq...@4ax.com...
> terrible things done by bad people to good ones, the unaccountably
> monstrous
> human capacity for pain.
>
> John

Enough with the presidential politics!
Mike :-)


amdx

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Mar 26, 2009, 1:25:46 PM3/26/09
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"John Larkin" <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:b73ns4paao5pcjl57...@4ax.com...
I ordered some of the seeds for that after you (?) posted the first
picture.
I didn't get it to produce, I guess it's time to try again, maybe a little
late.
Mike


John Larkin

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Mar 26, 2009, 2:00:17 PM3/26/09
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My wife planted some in the garden, and they started to make the
fractal gadgets, but then they exploded into long shoots (there's a
name for that) and we got nothing edible. We must have done something
wrong.

They are wonderful to eat as well as look at. They're hard to find and
the season is short, late summer mostly.

John


Dave Platt

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Mar 26, 2009, 2:32:49 PM3/26/09
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In article <sdgns4pt76bus35nn...@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>My wife planted some in the garden, and they started to make the
>fractal gadgets, but then they exploded into long shoots (there's a
>name for that) and we got nothing edible.

Probably the phenomenon called "bolting".

> We must have done something wrong.

Broccoli and cauliflower are cool-season plants, and they're quite
prone to bolting in hot weather. Best raised early (for harvest
before the weather heats up) or in the autumn.

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Michael A. Terrell

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Mar 26, 2009, 4:14:50 PM3/26/09
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Trolls don't know how to cook anything fit for human consumption.


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Sylvia Else

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:51:26 PM3/26/09
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He wasn't being serious. I thought that was obvious.

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:53:28 PM3/26/09
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I'v been bothered by the combination of omniscience and omnipotence.
Omnisicience means He knows everything, including the future. That
obviously includes His own future actions, which means that in the
future He has no freedom of action. So much for omnipotence.

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else

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Mar 26, 2009, 8:57:57 PM3/26/09
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Dave Platt wrote:
> In article <sdgns4pt76bus35nn...@4ax.com>,
> John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>> My wife planted some in the garden, and they started to make the
>> fractal gadgets, but then they exploded into long shoots (there's a
>> name for that) and we got nothing edible.
>
> Probably the phenomenon called "bolting".
>
>> We must have done something wrong.
>
> Broccoli and cauliflower are cool-season plants, and they're quite
> prone to bolting in hot weather. Best raised early (for harvest
> before the weather heats up) or in the autumn.
>

Sheesh - talk about thread drift ;)

How fractal is that thing? Even with a magnifying glass?

Sylvia.

John Larkin

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Mar 26, 2009, 9:19:02 PM3/26/09
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Counting the main cone as level 1, it seems to go to 4. But next time
I get one I'll look closer and see if there are more. Late this year,
maybe.

I like to slice them (the slices look like snowflakes) and fry them,
very hot, in butter and garlic. Add the garlic late.

John

D from BC

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Mar 26, 2009, 9:39:21 PM3/26/09
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:53:28 +1100, Sylvia Else
<syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:

People over history have basically worshipped approx 200 Gods.
Today, Scientology is proof that people will still believe any stupid
sh*t.

Robert Baer

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Mar 27, 2009, 2:31:08 AM3/27/09
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The Real Andy wrote:

Recipe for apple pie and icecream?

Eeyore

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Mar 27, 2009, 2:39:22 PM3/27/09
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amdx wrote:

> "John Larkin" <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote


> > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:31:27 +1000, The Real Andy
> > <there...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
> >><syl...@some.other.address> wrote:
> >>
> >>>My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.
> >>
> >>Test posts are not accepted without a recipe.
> >
> >
> > How about Scorched Romanesco Broccoli?
> >
> > ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/R1.JPG
>

> I ordered some of the seeds for that after you (?) posted the first
> picture.
> I didn't get it to produce, I guess it's time to try again, maybe a little
> late.

I've bought some on occasion. It has a subtly different flavout to white
cauliflower and not like broccoli at all in fact despite the naming ! All that
family of vegetable are supposed to be very good for you including having
anti-cancer properties they say. It loses a little of the colour in cooking
btw.

Graham

Eeyore

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Mar 27, 2009, 2:40:46 PM3/27/09
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Sylvia Else wrote:

It's astonishing. If you see one, buy one.

Graham

Eeyore

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Mar 27, 2009, 2:43:33 PM3/27/09
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Sylvia Else wrote:

> I'v been bothered by the combination of omniscience and omnipotence.

Been watching Q on Star Trek ?

Graham

Eeyore

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Mar 27, 2009, 2:45:26 PM3/27/09
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D from BC wrote:

Like AGW for example ?

Graham

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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Mar 27, 2009, 5:03:57 PM3/27/09
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The Simulation Argument solves most of that.

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Rich the Philosophizer

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Mar 27, 2009, 5:50:55 PM3/27/09
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:53:28 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
>>
>> I think the most troubling issue with the classical concept of an
>> all-wise, all-knowing, loving God is the immense amount of suffering
>> bourne by innocents. Children born with horrible diseases, terrible
>> things done by bad people to good ones, the unaccountably monstrous
>> human capacity for pain.
>
> I'v been bothered by the combination of omniscience and omnipotence.
> Omnisicience means He knows everything, including the future. That
> obviously includes His own future actions, which means that in the
> future He has no freedom of action. So much for omnipotence.
>
Both paradigms are wrong:
http://www.godchannel.com

Cheers!
Rich

D from BC

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Mar 27, 2009, 9:41:19 PM3/27/09
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I like to call God 'Captain Kirk' when I talk to Christians..
It's delightfully confusing.

I'll say things like:
So...How come Captain Kirk didn't leave a business card?

Sylvia Else

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Mar 27, 2009, 9:49:54 PM3/27/09
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No.

Sylvia

Sylvia Else

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Mar 27, 2009, 9:51:55 PM3/27/09
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How? It seems that omniscience and omnipotence are mutually incompatible
attributes, and would remain so regardless of the way the Universe is
actually implemented.

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else

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Mar 27, 2009, 9:54:55 PM3/27/09
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Roger, wilco.

Sylvia.

D from BC

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:45:26 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
< snip >

>>
>> People over history have basically worshipped approx 200 Gods.
>> Today, Scientology is proof that people will still believe any stupid
>> sh*t.
>
>Like AGW for example ?
>
>Graham

AGW??

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:55:04 -0700, D from BC wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:45:26 +0000, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> < snip >
>>>
>>> People over history have basically worshipped approx 200 Gods.
>>> Today, Scientology is proof that people will still believe any stupid
>>> sh*t.
>>
>>Like AGW for example ?
>
> AGW??

Al Gore Worshippers.

Cheers!
Rich

mrda...@gmail.com

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On Mar 27, 6:55 pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:45:26 +0000, Eeyore<rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> < snip >
>
>
>
> >> People over history have basically worshipped approx 200 Gods.
> >> Today, Scientology is proof that people will still believe any stupid
> >> sh*t.
>
> >Like AGW for example ?
>
> >Graham
>
> AGW??
>
> D from BC
> myrealaddress(at)comic(dot)com
> BC, Canada
> Posted to usenet sci.electronics.design


Anthropogenic (human-made) Global Warming

Michael

D from BC

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Mar 31, 2009, 3:30:13 AM3/31/09
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Ah...

It stuff like that reminds me there's no escape off this rock to
another water planet.

Sylvia Else

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Eeyore wrote:
>
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>
>> Robert Baer wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:55:32 +1100, Sylvia Else

>>>>> <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>>>>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:05:02 +1100, Sy_lvia El_se
>>>>>>> <syl...@some.other.address> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My postings seem not to be appearing on this specific group.
>>>>>>> This one looks OK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And this one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>> No, sorry, I didn't see that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>> Very strange.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>> So far into this thread i have seen all postings and responses...
>> I was having problems posting to the puzzle thread. Google groups
>> doesn't see my postings, and I see only the headers.
>>
>> However, one did get through when I cut out one of the crossposted
>> groups, and I do vaguely remember someone telling me of a crossposting
>> issue with my news service, Astraweb.
>
> Ah ! I use Astraweb too. They only seem to allow crossposting to a maximum
> of 3 groups.Probably to discourage Usenet abusers. The only grumble I have
> with their service.
>
> Graham
>

I think it might be part of their business model. Offer gigabytes of
download for a few dollars, and then have an obscure rule that
eventually annoys users so that they go elsewhere having used only a
small fraction of their quota. Thus astraweb wouldn't need to invest in
much hardware or bandwidth.

Come the end of the month (to protect me from speed limiting by my ISP)
I may write a program to use up all of my astraweb quota and move
somewhere else.

Sylvia.

mrda...@gmail.com

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On Mar 31, 12:30 am, D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote:


What's wrong with Europa?

Just bring a bag lunch for the trip.

Michael

D from BC

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Maybe there's tasty sea monsters to eat under the ice. :P

Rich Grise

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On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:45:07 -0700, D from BC wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:51:50 -0700 (PDT), mrda...@gmail.com wrote:
>>On Mar 31, 12:30 am, D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:32:25 -0700 (PDT), mrdarr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >On Mar 27, 6:55 pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...@comic.com> wrote:
>>> >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:45:26 +0000, Eeyore<rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> < snip >
>>> >> >> People over history have basically worshipped approx 200 Gods.
>>> >> >> Today, Scientology is proof that people will still believe any stupid
>>> >> >> sh*t.
>>>
>>> >> >Like AGW for example ?
>>>
>>> >> AGW??
>>>
>>> >Anthropogenic (human-made) Global Warming

>>> Ah...
>>>
>>> It stuff like that reminds me there's no escape off this rock to
>>> another water planet.
>>
>>What's wrong with Europa?
>>
>>Just bring a bag lunch for the trip.
>
> Maybe there's tasty sea monsters to eat under the ice. :P
>
All you'd need is a submersible that's good for about 200 miles depth. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

John Fields

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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:09:32 +1100, Sylvia Else
<syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:


>Does a birth cancel out a death?

---

>
>It mirrors the philosphical question about how suffering and existence
>should be balanced. Suffering is clearly bad, so we should minimise it.
>Or should we? We could eliminate human suffering entirely by
>exterminating the human race. But of course, human existence would go
>with it.
>
>Sylvia.

JF

John Fields

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---
Oops... hit the wrong key.


JF

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