W7 64

gregz

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May 10, 2013, 6:55:20 PM5/10/13

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Had this HP laptop over a year. Been a pain with constant updates from
windows and HP. I think the bios has been updated minimum 4 times. HP has
an update program for the laptop. It been mostly a pain to use, and takes
at least 5 minutes before yo can really start doing anything. I also have
comcasts norton protect.

Lately on boot, blue screen, then constant retries. It seemed like it
sometimes found out windows needed to repair itself and went to a screen. I
also found you could get to the screen after safe mode boot, which fails,
then goes to repair screen. It repairs after a long while and boots right
up. It's a continuous motion.

I've run across things like, windows shut down improperly, and also a
keyboard not found. HP diagnostics pass ok. I'm ready to go back to
original configuration if necessary. I think it's basically a good machine.
I think it's software.

I'd love to install my XP disk.

Greg

Jamie

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May 10, 2013, 7:32:55 PM5/10/13

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sounds to me like a bad HD or hardware.

Jamie

Rich Webb

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May 10, 2013, 7:57:02 PM5/10/13

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On Fri, 10 May 2013 22:55:20 +0000 (UTC), gregz <ze...@comcast.net>
wrote:

There was a recent Windows update causing similar symptoms. See
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/12/ms_buggy_fix_roll_back/>
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/19/bad_patch_bootable_repair_disk/>

If that isn't what's causing your problems, it may be time to pick up
a new hard drive and reinstall from scratch. Perhaps also take the
opportunity to upgrade the RAM?

I'm on Win7-64 here on a Lenovo and, other than some apparent #!$#&%
permissions issues with installing OpenVPN, it's been great.

Martin Brown

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May 12, 2013, 12:17:16 PM5/12/13

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Boot it from a stand alone memory tester CD and do a stress diagnostic
test on the hardware. That way you can demonstrate if it is a hardware
error. My last Toshiba 17" laptop had an incredibly annoying
intermittent fault that meant it lost the keyboard and mouse after a
while. This could be worked around by plugging a USB one in, but the
only way to power it down was to physically remove the battery or let it
run out.

Either way made bootup tedious in the extreme. A Linux test disk also
failed the same way and eventually it became so unreliable the keyboard
would crash and die before you could alter bios settings.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

josephkk

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May 15, 2013, 8:17:12 PM5/15/13

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Gee. I have W7 64 on a lappie and two more machines. Not updating all
the time but i am not having any trouble either.

?-)

gregz

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May 15, 2013, 10:55:19 PM5/15/13

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I mostly use iPad, but I turned on the laptop and it booted ok. Hope last
time it cured itself. I'll continue to check things out. Other computer
uses XP, old reliable. I also got slower machines using W98se and W2K.

HP laptop says it needs to load 2 new drivers tonight. !

Greg

T

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May 21, 2013, 12:58:56 AM5/21/13

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In article <1145467224390365795.6...@news.eternal-
september.org>, ze...@comcast.net says...

Yeah, I have an old Dell 4100 running W98se. I use it because it has a
PS2 port and a serial port on it. I need those for my magnetic card
reader/writer.

Otherwise the other machines are WinXP Pro SP3+patches. I see no reason
to upgrade at the current moment. And Win8 looks like it was designed by
a crack addled ADHD sufferer.

josephkk

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May 21, 2013, 11:38:14 PM5/21/13

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You are way to kind to Win8. I found it to be a not quite usable
abomination. Worse than Vista by far. The real underlying problem is
that it is excessively oriented to tablets and such with touch screens.
Some people think that conventional desktops and non-touch-screen laptops
are really going away soon. Ain't happening, the need to reliably input
text is still too important.

?-)

T

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Jun 2, 2013, 9:17:20 PM6/2/13

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In article <mudop85tnrntpqim9...@4ax.com>,
joseph_...@sbcglobal.net says...

I guess you haven't seen that MS is now dropping 8.1 on the maket and
the Start button is back.

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

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Jun 2, 2013, 9:37:50 PM6/2/13

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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 21:17:20 -0400, T <kd1s....@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>I guess you haven't seen that MS is now dropping 8.1 on the maket and
>the Start button is back.
>

Where can one get one of these newfangled makets?

I always wondered what a maket with a start button would be like.

josephkk

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Jun 3, 2013, 10:22:39 PM6/3/13

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On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 21:17:20 -0400, T <kd1s....@cox.nospam.net> wrote:

>

>> >Yeah, I have an old Dell 4100 running W98se. I use it because it has a
>> >PS2 port and a serial port on it. I need those for my magnetic card
>> >reader/writer.
>> >
>> >Otherwise the other machines are WinXP Pro SP3+patches. I see no reason
>> >to upgrade at the current moment. And Win8 looks like it was designed by
>> >a crack addled ADHD sufferer.
>>
>> You are way to kind to Win8. I found it to be a not quite usable
>> abomination. Worse than Vista by far. The real underlying problem is
>> that it is excessively oriented to tablets and such with touch screens.
>> Some people think that conventional desktops and non-touch-screen laptops
>> are really going away soon. Ain't happening, the need to reliably input
>> text is still too important.
>>
>> ?-)
>
>I guess you haven't seen that MS is now dropping 8.1 on the maket and
>the Start button is back.

This is the first i have heard of it. I guess the backlash was pretty
severe.

?-)

T

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Jun 5, 2013, 10:56:27 PM6/5/13

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In article <sojqq8d2021j6hgpq...@4ax.com>,
joseph_...@sbcglobal.net says...

Still severe so far as I'm concerned. Windows 8.x is a TABLET operating
system. Doesn't work so well on Laptopd and Workstations.

And I still maintain, that interface looks like it was designed by a
crack addled ADHD sufferer.

P E Schoen

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Jun 6, 2013, 4:37:17 PM6/6/13

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"T" wrote in message
news:MPG.2c19c462d...@news.eternal-september.org...

> Still severe so far as I'm concerned. Windows 8.x is a TABLET operating
> system. Doesn't work so well on Laptopd and Workstations.

> And I still maintain, that interface looks like it was designed by a
> crack addled ADHD sufferer.

Here's some useful info I found, including third party apps to restore (and
enhance) the Win7 Start Button and Menu System:
http://www.extremetech.com/tag/windows-8

Paul

Chris

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Jun 6, 2013, 9:36:46 PM6/6/13

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Basically what I was going to say.

Been running Win8 in desktop mode for a couple months now and it's virtually identical to Win 7 thanks to Start8 (http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/) and ModernMix (http://www.stardock.com/products/modernmix/) both from Stardock who I've had a subscription with since the OS/2 days.

Sure it's not right that you have to pay extra to get it the way you want, but lots of people pay extra to customise things the way they want...

Cheers,
Chris.

JW

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Jun 7, 2013, 5:06:08 AM6/7/13

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On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 18:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Chris <chri...@live.com> wrote
in Message id: <bb0e6431-92be-47d6...@googlegroups.com>:

Why pay for what you can get for free?
http://www.classicshell.net/