OT: The 'Daily Mail' Newspaper in the UK ...
Adrian C
called 'the daily mail' - in my view an odious right wing publication
run by troublesome miscreants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
Their slanted 'journalism' garbage intended to politically polarise
mostly conservative supporters of 'middle england' and breed more civil
and european hate is unfortunately making worldwide internet waves
across their frequently blogged and quoted web links, and giving the
impression that the UK is going loon big time. It is not.
The sensible are still here in the UK. Come and visit us ;-)
<http://www.visitbritain.co.uk/>
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bo...@mailinator.com
> A few loon posts about the UK refer to events published in the ragsheet
> called 'the daily mail' - in my view an odious right wing publication
> run by troublesome miscreants.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
>
> Their slanted 'journalism' garbage intended to politically polarise
> mostly conservative supporters of 'middle england' and breed more civil
> and european hate
Hatred of the current batch of politicans is justified. If
more hate results in them being voted out of office then
that is a good thing.
>and giving the
> impression that the UK is going loon big time. It is not.
British economic policy is insane.
> The sensible are still here in the UK. Come and visit us ;-)
Acording to a 2006 report, 9.1% of the people who were
born in Britain have chosen to emigrate. They are
the sensible people. What sensible productive
working person wants to stay and have their
earnings taken in tax or devalued to pay off the
countrys massive debts?
The way the UK has been run is unsustainable and
we are just seeing the beginning of the resulting pain.
Bob
RFI-EMI-GUY
1) Are you near enough to the daily mail to get a microfiche copy of a
(bogus) article published on or about August 18, 1991? It is not
available on line. 2) Was/is there a columnist named Bob Graham from
that era?
Contact me directly thanks
Adrian C wrote:
> A few loon posts about the UK refer to events published in the ragsheet
> called 'the daily mail' - in my view an odious right wing publication
> run by troublesome miscreants.
>
>
>
> Their slanted 'journalism' garbage intended to politically polarise
> mostly conservative supporters of 'middle england' and breed more civil
> and european hate is unfortunately making worldwide internet waves
> across their frequently blogged and quoted web links, and giving the
> impression that the UK is going loon big time. It is not.
>
> The sensible are still here in the UK. Come and visit us ;-)
>
> <http://www.visitbritain.co.uk/>
>
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> A few loon posts about the UK refer to events published in the ragsheet
> called 'the daily mail' - in my view an odious right wing publication
> run by troublesome miscreants.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
A nice job of shooting the messenger.
At least it reports everything the BBC hushes up "for our own good".
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John Larkin
>Acording to a 2006 report, 9.1% of the people who were
>born in Britain have chosen to emigrate. They are
>the sensible people. What sensible productive
>working person wants to stay and have their
>earnings taken in tax or devalued to pay off the
>countrys massive debts?
Hey, thanks. You have sent us some really great talent.
John
Eeyore
Adrian C wrote:
> A few loon posts about the UK refer to events published in the ragsheet
> called 'the daily mail' - in my view an odious right wing publication
> run by troublesome miscreants.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
I would once have described it so too. Not now. Some of the opinion columns
in there are now superb. And the reporting is decent quality.
If you want 'odious' go to the Express.
> Their slanted 'journalism' garbage intended to politically polarise
> mostly conservative supporters of 'middle england' and breed more civil
> and european hate is unfortunately making worldwide internet waves
> across their frequently blogged and quoted web links, and giving the
> impression that the UK is going loon big time. It is not.
No, they reflect popular view. The Labour Government has only itself to
blame for the rise in the popularity of the Mail.
And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
council right now. They're quite MAD !
Graham
Michael A. Terrell
Eeyore wrote:
>
> No, they reflect popular view. The Labour Government has only itself to
> blame for the rise in the popularity of the Mail.
>
> And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
> council right now. They're quite MAD !
Don't you wonder why everyone and everything around you is MAD? Or
could it be you that is way over the deep end, and blaming everyone else
for your shortcomings?
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> And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
> council right now. They're quite MAD !
>
> Graham
Are you sure it's not just that council employees will
allways try to give an answer that means they don't
have to do any work, while ignoring common sense
and, often, reality?
Labour run councils are paticularly bad.
Government employees and benefit scroungers are
the Labour partys core voters so they have little
interest in doing anything sensible about them.
Bob
Eeyore
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> Adrian C wrote:
> > A few loon posts about the UK refer to events published in the ragsheet
> > called 'the daily mail' - in my view an odious right wing publication
> > run by troublesome miscreants.
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
>
> A nice job of shooting the messenger.
> At least it reports everything the BBC hushes up "for our own good".
Too damn right. I would never have thought it a few years back but the Daily
Mail I now admire for telling the truth. The Indy's sort of OK too. Plus I
refer to the Times, Telegraph and occasionally Al Jazeera ( for regional news
) too.
Graham
Eeyore
John Larkin wrote:
> bo...@mailinator.com wrote:
>
> >Acording to a 2006 report, 9.1% of the people who were
> >born in Britain have chosen to emigrate. They are
> >the sensible people. What sensible productive
> >working person wants to stay and have their
> >earnings taken in tax or devalued to pay off the
> >countrys massive debts?
>
> Hey, thanks. You have sent us some really great talent.
I think OZ is generally preferred (or even S.A.). I know several people
who've gone to NZ too.
Graham
Eeyore
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> >
> > No, they reflect popular view. The Labour Government has only itself to
> > blame for the rise in the popularity of the Mail.
> >
> > And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
> > council right now. They're quite MAD !
>
> Don't you wonder why everyone and everything around you is MAD? Or
> could it be you that is way over the deep end, and blaming everyone else
> for your shortcomings?
Would you like to see the emails ?
For example regarding flytipped waste (because they haven't provided enough
refuse and recycling bins). I reported flytipped rubbish near the cemetery
here. A 'team' was sent out to collect it but they only took the rubbish in
black bags. A different team is needed to collect rubbish in white bags of
which there were several.
Tell me if that's mad or not ok ?
I had to report the same again a few days later so wrote to them to ensure
they sent out 2 teams in case they got confused over what 'rubbish' is.
Graham
John Larkin
Not if you want to do technology, and do it with the best. That's why
I emigrated to California... to see if I could compete in the major
leagues.
What is there to do in NZ?
John
YD
<rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> penned this immortal opus:
Except the colour of the bags, what's the difference?
- YD.
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Adrian Tuddenham
I didn't think I would ever find myself in agreement with you, but you
appear to be starting on a road down which I have already travelled a
long way.
It has taken me several years to discover why my Local Council is
apparently hell-bent on the craziest schemes (mostly connected with
local transport). Apparently 85% of their funding now comes from
Central Government grants, so they either do things which tick the right
boxes or the Local Council will be bankrupt - it's as simple as that.
That is why we have elaborate bus lane arrangements where there are
minimal bus routes, traffic lights with long pedestrian phases where
there are hardly any pedestrians and artificially-generated traffic jams
at the edges of the city to keep the pollution away from the sensors
which are located near the real bottle-neck areas.
The public is 'consulted' at each step of the planning process and the
results quietly binned while the previously-decided plan moves on to the
next phase. Local Councillors are powerless, they have been hoodwinked
or even blatantly disobeyed by Council Officers time-and-again. If the
Officers didn't do that, they wouldn't be able to tick the right boxes
and there would be no money the following year to pay for essential
services.
Local democracy in England is dead.
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krw
jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says...>
Same thing there is to do in Donkeyland; sheep.
Eeyore
bo...@mailinator.com wrote:
> > And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
> > council right now. They're quite MAD !
> >
> > Graham
>
> Are you sure it's not just that council employees will
> allways try to give an answer that means they don't
> have to do any work, while ignoring common sense
> and, often, reality?
They'll TRY ! But that won't work with me. One lass I was arguing the point
over why they hadn't collected my recycling offered the suggestion it was
in the wrong colour bags, despite them having left open to inspect the
contents and anote left out to let them kmow what they contained. I simply
said "it's not good enough" and asked if say green bags would have helped.
At that point you could almost hear her give in and accept they'd collect
them. After all aren't they supposed to be encouraging recycling ?
> Labour run councils are paticularly bad.
> Government employees and benefit scroungers are
> the Labour partys core voters so they have little
> interest in doing anything sensible about them.
This is either Conservative or no overall control.
On the subject of recycling.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-411235/Man-fined-200-putting-paper-wrong-recycling-bin.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-431916/Closed-The-Chinese-city-Britain-uses-dustbin.html
And this was utterly preictable.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1105218/Going-waste-The-unwanted-recycling-thats-costing-millions.html
The Daily Mail is a 'rubbish' newspapre eh Mr OP ?
Graham
Eeyore
John Larkin wrote:
Software and working as a doctor in the instances I recall.
Graham
Eeyore
YD wrote:
> Except the colour of the bags, what's the difference?
Black bags are supposed to contain 'rubbish', clear or white bags are supposed
to contain recyclables. As if people flytipping actually cared..
Here is my email to the council today.
Daily flytipping report #1
Location 1:
Corner of Victoria Street and Ridgmont Road (by the Station car park) approx 12
bags flytipped on the pavement on the corner under the street name sign. Black
and transparent bags so 2 teams needed to clear it up.
Location 2
Corner of Hatfield Road and Albion Road (outside the barber's shop). Approx 6
bags flytipped on the pavement directly outside the shop. Both black and white
bags so again 2 teams required.
Regds, Graham
Graham
Adrian C
> The Daily Mail is a 'rubbish' newspapre eh Mr OP ?
Keeps you fed... ;-)
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Eeyore
Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
30 years ago I was a committee member in a successful Action Group to stop an
inner city 'shopping mall' development that was wholly inappropriate.
I that it was the Mayor who was caught out using the phrase "the rigmarole of
public consultation".
Graham
Eeyore
Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
> Local democracy in England is dead.
Just local ? Thinks Iraq War for example.
Graham
John Larkin
<rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Neither is electronics.
John
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John Larkin
Electronics, especially IP-intense stuff, is a relatively portable
industry. But it's nice to be able to get samples or Digikey orders
overnight, and to have distributors and factory reps calling on us
often, begging us to take samples and eval boards, and to have all
those support industries handy, and to be able to call on customers
without a flight halfway around the world.
Some of the tales from Europe sound intimidating, like individuals not
being allowed to buy from distributors, and difficulty getting samples
and parts. And is Farnell the only distributor? They're the only one I
hear mentioned.
John
Eeyore
John Larkin wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >John Larkin wrote:
> >> >> bo...@mailinator.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Acording to a 2006 report, 9.1% of the people who were
> >> >> >born in Britain have chosen to emigrate. They are
> >> >> >the sensible people. What sensible productive
> >> >> >working person wants to stay and have their
> >> >> >earnings taken in tax or devalued to pay off the
> >> >> >countrys massive debts?
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey, thanks. You have sent us some really great talent.
> >> >
> >> >I think OZ is generally preferred (or even S.A.). I know several people
> >> >who've gone to NZ too.
> >>
> >> Not if you want to do technology, and do it with the best. That's why
> >> I emigrated to California... to see if I could compete in the major
> >> leagues.
> >>
> >> What is there to do in NZ?
> >
> >Software and working as a doctor in the instances I recall.
>
> Neither is electronics.
I dare say they do some of that too. It's a beautiful country btw.
Graham
John Devereux
[...]
> Electronics, especially IP-intense stuff, is a relatively portable
> industry. But it's nice to be able to get samples or Digikey orders
> overnight
They normally turn up a day later for me. I do some work in the
evenings, so sometimes Digikey orders turn up before the locally
ordered stuff!
>, and to have distributors and factory reps calling on us
> often, begging us to take samples and eval boards, and to have all
> those support industries handy, and to be able to call on customers
> without a flight halfway around the world.
A flight accross the USA *is* halfway around the world :)
USAians seem to think nothing of a 12 hour drive - I would seriously
consider flying for anything above 4 hours or so. (Which gets me
anywhere in England).
> Some of the tales from Europe sound intimidating, like individuals not
> being allowed to buy from distributors
Last time I looked you could buy, but had to pay the carriage or there
waws a minimum order etc. The two big catalogue distributors (RS and
Farnell) have free carriage and no minimum order quantity, for
businesses. I just had some shortages on a production run, so ordered
some resistors. Then a chip. Then another one. 3 separate orders
arrived the next morning, no added cost.
> and difficulty getting samples and parts.
It's no problem these days. Most manufacturers seem happy to ship by
DHL or UPS. I click on a "sample request", and next day get a 10c chip
in a $40 package.
> And is Farnell the only
> distributor? They're the only one I hear mentioned.
Farnell and RS are the big "catalog" ones, analogous to Digikey in the
USA. And we buy from Digikey too.
Hey, you can sort the Farnell catalog by price, unlike Digikey! Quite
useful for finding what part to use for a "jellybean mosfet" etc.
There are also a lot of other "franchised" distributors, although they
keep buying each other up so it's hard to keep track sometimes.
--
John Devereux
krw
jo...@devereux.me.uk says...>
>
> [...]
>
> > Electronics, especially IP-intense stuff, is a relatively portable
> > industry. But it's nice to be able to get samples or Digikey orders
> > overnight
>
> They normally turn up a day later for me. I do some work in the
> evenings, so sometimes Digikey orders turn up before the locally
> ordered stuff!
When you pay 4x for something you do expect better service.
> >, and to have distributors and factory reps calling on us
> > often, begging us to take samples and eval boards, and to have all
> > those support industries handy, and to be able to call on customers
> > without a flight halfway around the world.
>
> A flight accross the USA *is* halfway around the world :)
*All* the way across the civilized world. ;-)
> USAians seem to think nothing of a 12 hour drive - I would seriously
> consider flying for anything above 4 hours or so. (Which gets me
> anywhere in England).
Not if you include all the time at each end, waiting, luggage,
transfers... When I lived in NY my business (personal was even
further)drive limits were the entire NE, from DC to Buffalo
(sometimes Chicago, though not for time reasons), to Maine.
Outside that I'd fly.
> > Some of the tales from Europe sound intimidating, like individuals not
> > being allowed to buy from distributors
>
> Last time I looked you could buy, but had to pay the carriage or there
> waws a minimum order etc. The two big catalogue distributors (RS and
> Farnell) have free carriage and no minimum order quantity, for
> businesses. I just had some shortages on a production run, so ordered
> some resistors. Then a chip. Then another one. 3 separate orders
> arrived the next morning, no added cost.
Individuals?
> > and difficulty getting samples and parts.
>
> It's no problem these days. Most manufacturers seem happy to ship by
> DHL or UPS. I click on a "sample request", and next day get a 10c chip
> in a $40 package.
>
> > And is Farnell the only
> > distributor? They're the only one I hear mentioned.
>
> Farnell and RS are the big "catalog" ones, analogous to Digikey in the
> USA. And we buy from Digikey too.
How often do they visit?
Jim Thompson
<jo...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
>John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes:
>
>[...]
>
>> Electronics, especially IP-intense stuff, is a relatively portable
>> industry. But it's nice to be able to get samples or Digikey orders
>> overnight
>
>They normally turn up a day later for me. I do some work in the
>evenings, so sometimes Digikey orders turn up before the locally
>ordered stuff!
>
>>, and to have distributors and factory reps calling on us
>> often, begging us to take samples and eval boards, and to have all
>> those support industries handy, and to be able to call on customers
>> without a flight halfway around the world.
>
>A flight accross the USA *is* halfway around the world :)
Naaaah! It's only about 3000 miles (continental US).
>
>USAians seem to think nothing of a 12 hour drive - I would seriously
>consider flying for anything above 4 hours or so. (Which gets me
>anywhere in England).
6-7 hours gets me to LA or San Diego, a few more hours to Santa
Barbara... that's my driving limit, otherwise I fly.
I'm too old to find driving enjoyable anymore ;-)
[snip]
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Eeyore
John Devereux wrote:
> John Larkin writes:
>
> > And is Farnell the only distributor? They're the only one I hear
> mentioned.
>
> Farnell and RS
Formerly 'Radiospares'. No connection with Radio Shack.
> are the big "catalog" ones, analogous to Digikey in the
> USA. And we buy from Digikey too.
>
> Hey, you can sort the Farnell catalog by price, unlike Digikey! Quite
> useful for finding what part to use for a "jellybean mosfet" etc.
>
> There are also a lot of other "franchised" distributors, although they
> keep buying each other up so it's hard to keep track sometimes.
Also check out Rapid and CPC. They do some great economy lines. CPC is
actually part of the Farnell group now, as is Newark in the USA.
Graham
John Devereux
True but at least I can relax, read a book or doodle a design while in
transit.
>> > Some of the tales from Europe sound intimidating, like individuals not
>> > being allowed to buy from distributors
>>
>> Last time I looked you could buy, but had to pay the carriage or there
>> waws a minimum order etc. The two big catalogue distributors (RS and
>> Farnell) have free carriage and no minimum order quantity, for
>> businesses. I just had some shortages on a production run, so ordered
>> some resistors. Then a chip. Then another one. 3 separate orders
>> arrived the next morning, no added cost.
>
> Individuals?
No, just business I think. Which I am. If you are an individual I
think you have to pay carriage and there may be a minimum order.
If you are in a city I think an individual can buy from an RS "trade
counter" and pay cash.
[...]
>> Farnell and RS are the big "catalog" ones, analogous to Digikey in the
>> USA. And we buy from Digikey too.
>
> How often do they visit?
Farnell and RS would visit all the time, if I let them. But it's a
waste of time generally so I don't.
[...]
--
John Devereux
John Devereux
I know Rapid, but not CPC, thanks.
I see they have the same website software!
--
John Devereux
John Larkin
<jo...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
>> Individuals?
>
>No, just business I think. Which I am. If you are an individual I
>think you have to pay carriage and there may be a minimum order.
>
>If you are in a city I think an individual can buy from an RS "trade
>counter" and pay cash.
When I was a kid, I just made up company names ("Simple Systems Inc"),
appointed myself Chief Engineer, and ordered all the free mags and
samples and parts that way. I had an open account with Allied. I also
bought from a local distributor, over the counter, and often as not
they just gave me the stuff.
Fair Radio Sales, in Ohio, had incredible WWII surplus stuff; in fact,
they still do!
John
Jim Thompson
Bwahahahahaha! I did the same thing... "Creative Monolithics" (still
trade-name registered in Arizona ;-)
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Martin Brown
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:14:50 +0000, John Devereux
>
> >> Individuals?
>
> >No, just business I think. Which I am. If you are an individual I
> >think you have to pay carriage and there may be a minimum order.
>
> >If you are in a city I think an individual can buy from an RS "trade
> >counter" and pay cash.
>
> When I was a kid, I just made up company names ("Simple Systems Inc"),
> appointed myself Chief Engineer, and ordered all the free mags and
> samples and parts that way. I had an open account with Allied. I also
> bought from a local distributor, over the counter, and often as not
> they just gave me the stuff.
I treasured the free databooks rather more than the free samples.
In those days RS was very tetchy about who it would trade with and
ISTR required company name up in letters some specified height near a
main road. The rep would visit to check you out. I had a friend who
was a technician at a technical college and bought stuff from RS in
that capacity but they would not trade with his limited company
(despite the fact that his company bought massively more stuff than
the college). These days I think they will trade with you if you can
pay. Farnell was more flexible as were the Motorola, Intel and Zilog
dealers, and they were usually cheaper too.
>
> Fair Radio Sales, in Ohio, had incredible WWII surplus stuff; in fact,
> they still do!
That is amazing. Most of the good WWII surplus in the UK is long gone.
Ferranti auctions were always fun. I still remember the wonderful
aluminium signs on dead kit that said:
"Logic stack covers are essential for cooling. Do not operate control
with this cover removed"
You can guess the scenario. Service guy takes off cover, puts it face
down and someone operates control...
It didn't kill everything stone dead but they were well beyond
economic repair.
Regards,
Martin Brown
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Malcolm Moore
There's electronics also. Some of the larger companies that are
innovative and compete succesfully around the world.
Tait,
<http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,82,0,46,html/About-Tait>
one contract in your neck of the woods
<http://www.taitworld.com/main/index.cfm/1,776,2071,48,html/State-of-California-chooses-Tait>
Fisher & Paykel Appliances
<http://www.fisherpaykel.com/global/about-us/about-us.cfm>
They pioneered direct drive laundry washing machines where the
agitation is provided by ramping the motor speed up, then down, then
reversing etc.While you may not be familiar with their brand, that
technology has been licensed to other manufacturers. They have moved
most of their own manufacturing overseas, including to the USA, but
R&D still occurs here.
PDL Electronics
<http://www.pdlelectronics.com/>
pioneered variable speed drives for induction motors. Like a lot of
succesful companies they were bought out by an overseas manufacturer.
So too was
Navman
<http://www.navman.com/>
<http://www.navico.com/en/About-us/History/Navman-history/>
There are of course others, some of them based around agriculture, eg
<http://www.gallagher.co.nz/>
ranging down to one person outfits.
Regarding access to suppliers, yes, it is easy to be envious of your
situation, but do you ever get annoyed through being distracted by
cold calling salesmen hoping to make a sale?
RS Components have a branch here, backed up from Aus. The local
Farnell branch supplies everything from Aus, overnight delivery.
--
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Malcolm
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jo...@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk
Eeyore wrote:
>
> Here is my email to the council today.
>
>
> Daily flytipping report #1
>
> Location 1:
>
> Corner of Victoria Street and Ridgmont Road (by the Station car park) approx 12
> bags flytipped on the pavement on the corner under the street name sign. Black
> and transparent bags so 2 teams needed to clear it up.
>
>
> Location 2
>
> Corner of Hatfield Road and Albion Road (outside the barber's shop). Approx 6
> bags flytipped on the pavement directly outside the shop. Both black and white
> bags so again 2 teams required.
>
> Regds, Graham
>
>
> Graham
I like it. Keep up the good work!.
I was chatting to the council environmental officer while she was
having a fly tipping monitoring camera installed nearby. Was gratified
to discover that she was on a 'personal mission' to get the bastards.
Just wish other council executives could demonstrate similar
motivation.
Eeyore
Jim Thompson wrote:
> John Devereux <jo...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
> >John Larkin <jjla...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes:
> >
> >> Electronics, especially IP-intense stuff, is a relatively portable
> >> industry. But it's nice to be able to get samples or Digikey orders
> >> overnight
> >
> >They normally turn up a day later for me. I do some work in the
> >evenings, so sometimes Digikey orders turn up before the locally
> >ordered stuff!
> >
> >>, and to have distributors and factory reps calling on us
> >> often, begging us to take samples and eval boards, and to have all
> >> those support industries handy, and to be able to call on customers
> >> without a flight halfway around the world.
> >
> >A flight accross the USA *is* halfway around the world :)
>
> Naaaah! It's only about 3000 miles (continental US).
>
> >
> >USAians seem to think nothing of a 12 hour drive - I would seriously
> >consider flying for anything above 4 hours or so. (Which gets me
> >anywhere in England).
>
> 6-7 hours gets me to LA or San Diego, a few more hours to Santa
> Barbara... that's my driving limit, otherwise I fly.
>
> I'm too old to find driving enjoyable anymore ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
The traffic is too dense and the speed cameras too many to enjoy driving
in SE England too. Mind you, when you get off the major roads ........
I was once up to 100 mph on what you'd call a country lane, empty road,
very safe car, what's the problem ?
Graham
Eeyore
John Devereux wrote:
Amusing isn't it. Shows how well integrated they are. Farnell UK can actually
supply stock from Newark at what's usually a lower price subject to a
'transfer charge' to move it over the pond. Good for larger quantities.
Graham
Eeyore
John Larkin wrote:
> John Devereux <jo...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Individuals?
> >
> >No, just business I think. Which I am. If you are an individual I
> >think you have to pay carriage and there may be a minimum order.
> >
> >If you are in a city I think an individual can buy from an RS "trade
> >counter" and pay cash.
>
> When I was a kid, I just made up company names ("Simple Systems Inc"),
> appointed myself Chief Engineer, and ordered all the free mags and
> samples and parts that way. I had an open account with Allied. I also
> bought from a local distributor, over the counter, and often as not
> they just gave me the stuff.
Same here. Except I did actually have a registered business (but not
Limited, so didn't have to file accounts). I started off the way you did
though.
Graham
Eeyore
Martin Brown wrote:
> On Jan 6, 8:41 pm, John Larkin wrote:
> > John Devereux <j...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
> > >> Individuals?
> >
> > >No, just business I think. Which I am. If you are an individual I
> > >think you have to pay carriage and there may be a minimum order.
> >
> > >If you are in a city I think an individual can buy from an RS "trade
> > >counter" and pay cash.
> >
> > When I was a kid, I just made up company names ("Simple Systems Inc"),
> > appointed myself Chief Engineer, and ordered all the free mags and
> > samples and parts that way. I had an open account with Allied. I also
> > bought from a local distributor, over the counter, and often as not
> > they just gave me the stuff.
>
> I treasured the free databooks rather more than the free samples.
They were like gold dust back then. No internet you see. I still have a
bookcase full of the best.
> In those days RS was very tetchy about who it would trade with and
> ISTR required company name up in letters some specified height near a
> main road. The rep would visit to check you out. I had a friend who
> was a technician at a technical college and bought stuff from RS in
> that capacity but they would not trade with his limited company
> (despite the fact that his company bought massively more stuff than
> the college).
I managed to short-circuit that one. I was trading from my bedsit at the
time. I think the rep reckoned I was a good bet and let me have the account.
> These days I think they will trade with you if you can
> pay. Farnell was more flexible as were the Motorola, Intel and Zilog
> dealers, and they were usually cheaper too.
Farnell will trade with anyone, but you only get the free delivery if the
order value is over £25 (may have gone up to £30). Account customers get
free delivery on a £1 order.
Graham
Eeyore
Malcolm Moore wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>John Larkin wrote:
> >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >John Larkin wrote:
>
> >>> >> Hey, thanks. You have sent us some really great talent.
> >>> >
> >>> >I think OZ is generally preferred (or even S.A.). I know several people
> >>> >who've gone to NZ too.
> >>>
> >>> Not if you want to do technology, and do it with the best. That's why
> >>> I emigrated to California... to see if I could compete in the major
> >>> leagues.
> >>>
> >>> What is there to do in NZ?
> >>
> >>Software and working as a doctor in the instances I recall.
> >
RS and Farnell are everywhere pretty much. When googling, for some curious reason I often get
hits from RS's Singapore operation.
Graham
Eeyore
jo...@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
Here's report 2.
Daily flytipping report #2 of 6 Jan 2009
Location 1
Right hand pedestrian entry to the Hatfield Road Cemetery AGAIN. Black bag only at
this time.
Location 2
Almost directly opposite, adjacent to the litter bin in front of number 111 Hatfield
Road "Desi Hut" . Black bag again.
Regds, Graham
And all because they want to recycle materials, many of which have now become
worthless like newsprint. Some recyclers are *charging* to take it now. I do
appreciate the green bin though since it'll be good for garden waste, trimmings and
the like. But the original 240 litre bin supplied was absurd. I got a 160 litre bin
instead (the smallest they do). They SERIOUSLY expect people to fill one of those
every 2 weeks ?
Graham
krw
jo...@devereux.me.uk says...>
It's never a waste of time to get information and make contacts.
Work is going to expand to fill all the time allowed anyway. They
(Arrow and Avnet) about once a month with FAEs or supplier reps in
tow. They've even volunteered to set up FPGA and the analog
equivalent (whatever it's called) software on our systems - free.
krw
rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com says...>
>
> > On Jan 6, 8:41 pm, John Larkin wrote:
> > > John Devereux <j...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:
> > > >> Individuals?
> > >
> > > >No, just business I think. Which I am. If you are an individual I
> > > >think you have to pay carriage and there may be a minimum order.
> > >
> > > >If you are in a city I think an individual can buy from an RS "trade
> > > >counter" and pay cash.
> > >
> > > When I was a kid, I just made up company names ("Simple Systems Inc"),
> > > appointed myself Chief Engineer, and ordered all the free mags and
> > > samples and parts that way. I had an open account with Allied. I also
> > > bought from a local distributor, over the counter, and often as not
> > > they just gave me the stuff.
> >
> > I treasured the free databooks rather more than the free samples.
>
> They were like gold dust back then. No internet you see. I still have a
> bookcase full of the best.
Figures that the Dumb Donkey would be living in the glory days that
have passed long passed him by.
Eeyore
krw wrote:
Plenty of valuable info never made its way into pdf or other form.
Graham
krw
rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com says...>
Like I said, a has been, living in the past.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
It's true - design examples and little snippets of circuits etc.
Eeyore
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> It's true - design examples and little snippets of circuits etc.
I assume you're agreeing with me ? I have some little treasures here. The kind of
info that no-one will ever bother writing again because they're not interested in
promoting THAT technology any more. It's 'technology du jour' these days.
Graham
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
I've got photocopies out of the old NatSemi books for safe keeping.
Eeyore
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> >
> >> It's true - design examples and little snippets of circuits etc.
> >
> > I assume you're agreeing with me ? I have some little treasures here. The kind of
> > info that no-one will ever bother writing again because they're not interested in
> > promoting THAT technology any more. It's 'technology du jour' these days.
>
> I've got photocopies out of the old NatSemi books for safe keeping.
Oh yeah. Wise move.
I have originals of the Audio Handbook (now back in print), the Linear Databook and the
Linear Applications Handbook.
Graham
YD
<dirk....@gmail.com> penned this immortal opus:
>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>>
>>> It's true - design examples and little snippets of circuits etc.
>>
>> I assume you're agreeing with me ? I have some little treasures here. The kind of
>> info that no-one will ever bother writing again because they're not interested in
>> promoting THAT technology any more. It's 'technology du jour' these days.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
>I've got photocopies out of the old NatSemi books for safe keeping.
Scan them to pdf for easier safe-keeping and backup.
- YD.
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Can't say for sure what the idea is there. Around here they seem to
expect you to just do that little bit of segregation, and perhaps only
1/4 full each pickup. It is sized to handle typical statistical peak
loads.
Jim Thompson
wrote:
Around we have two collections per week, one "recyclables", one
"garbage".
Each receptacle type is (I think) 55 gallons. I have no trouble with
filling either one virtually to the top every trip ;-)
krw
They call the two pickups here "trash" and "garbage". "Trash" is
stuff like cardboard and packing material and "garbage" is food waste.
They don't recycle anything because cans and bottles go out in the
garbage. We're not supposed to put construction materials, but...
>Each receptacle type is (I think) 55 gallons. I have no trouble with
>filling either one virtually to the top every trip ;-)
I can't remember how big the garbage can is but it's a lot bigger than
a standard 30gal can. There is no container for trash. Good thing, I
have a pile (mostly broken down cardboard boxes) for this Wednesday
that's about 3'x'4'x5' tall. The holidays and rain have made the pile
get larger.
Jim Thompson
We have "bulk trash" pick-ups every quarter where you can put out tree
limbs, old appliances, etc., in a pile at the curb. I always trim my
trees the day before the week-long pick-up begins ;-)
We also have a "hazardous waste" thing at the city parks (twice a
year, I think) where you can take old paint cans, oil, brake fluid,
old tires, electronics (the lead fear ;-), insecticides, etc.
krw
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Evidently we can put that stuff out on "trash day".
>We also have a "hazardous waste" thing at the city parks (twice a
>year, I think) where you can take old paint cans, oil, brake fluid,
>old tires, electronics (the lead fear ;-), insecticides, etc.
One thing Vermont did well was their dumps (figures). They had the
"rover" come around every quarter or so to get rid of toxic waste. The
toxic waste transfer station was also open six days a week and was
"free" for houshold quantities. The dump charged something like $3
per 30gal bag and $6 if it was construction/demolition waste (worked
out about the same per pound). Curbside garbage pickup was pretty
expensive though ($35/mo for weekly pickup - 3 bags max). NY, OTOH,
was impossible. It was run by the people with the bent noses.
Michael A. Terrell
Eeyore wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
>
> > Eeyore wrote:
> > >
> > > No, they reflect popular view. The Labour Government has only itself to
> > > blame for the rise in the popularity of the Mail.
> > >
> > > And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
> > > council right now. They're quite MAD !
> >
> > Don't you wonder why everyone and everything around you is MAD? Or
> > could it be you that is way over the deep end, and blaming everyone else
> > for your shortcomings?
>
> Would you like to see the emails ?
>
> For example regarding flytipped waste (because they haven't provided enough
> refuse and recycling bins). I reported flytipped rubbish near the cemetery
> here. A 'team' was sent out to collect it but they only took the rubbish in
> black bags. A different team is needed to collect rubbish in white bags of
> which there were several.
>
> Tell me if that's mad or not ok ?
>
> I had to report the same again a few days later so wrote to them to ensure
> they sent out 2 teams in case they got confused over what 'rubbish' is.
>
> Graham
That sounds like typical British lunacy.
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Eeyore
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > > Eeyore wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No, they reflect popular view. The Labour Government has only itself to
> > > > blame for the rise in the popularity of the Mail.
> > > >
> > > > And the UK IS going loom. I'm fighting a minor skirmish with my local
> > > > council right now. They're quite MAD !
> > >
> > > Don't you wonder why everyone and everything around you is MAD? Or
> > > could it be you that is way over the deep end, and blaming everyone else
> > > for your shortcomings?
> >
> > Would you like to see the emails ?
> >
> > For example regarding flytipped waste (because they haven't provided enough
> > refuse and recycling bins). I reported flytipped rubbish near the cemetery
> > here. A 'team' was sent out to collect it but they only took the rubbish in
> > black bags. A different team is needed to collect rubbish in white bags of
> > which there were several.
> >
> > Tell me if that's mad or not ok ?
> >
> > I had to report the same again a few days later so wrote to them to ensure
> > they sent out 2 teams in case they got confused over what 'rubbish' is.
> >
> > Graham
>
> That sounds like typical British lunacy.
I'd check out your UAW lunacy compeling Auto compnaies to pay workers to be paid
NOT to work first.
Graham
Michael A. Terrell
Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
Eeyore
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > >
> > > That sounds like typical British lunacy.
> >
> > I'd check out your UAW lunacy compelling Auto companies to pay workers to be paid
> > NOT to work first.
>
> Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
That wasn't my assertion. Your AUTO COMPANIES allowed it to happen. They killed
themselves.
Graham
krw
rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com says...>
I don't believe Michael owns an AUTO COMPANY, Dumb Donkey. I'm
pretty certain he doesn't own any UAWs either.
James Arthur
They're a microcosm of socialism, worker's rights, philosophy
of entitlement...ergo an experiment that must be preserved, nay,
disseminated.
Plus, they lobby, and they vote.
Thus the need to save them. All they need is a ton of money,
and protection from people who do it better, for less.
And who designs cars better than government? I'm tempted by
the Freddiemobile, but am leaning towards a Fanniewagon.
Can't beat that GreenLantern(tm) hyperdrive propulsion unit.
I favor the 'avocado' finish.
James Arthur
Jim Thompson
What? Avocado "crinkle" ?:-)
...Jim Thompson
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Democrats are like cats...
They'll take a dump behind your couch and then feign ignorance
krw
bogus...@verizon.net says...>
It doesn't matter what you favor, you'll get what (the weenie
government decides) you need. ...and like it, comrade Arthur!
James Arthur
That's the California variety. The Floridan version's smooth.
The Green Lantern personally charges each one with his magic
ring.
James
James Arthur
:-)
Michael A. Terrell
I don't own any auto companies.
Eeyore
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > > Eeyore wrote:
> > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That sounds like typical British lunacy.
> > > >
> > > > I'd check out your UAW lunacy compelling Auto companies to pay workers to be paid
> > > > NOT to work first.
> > >
> > > Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
> >
> > That wasn't my assertion. Your AUTO COMPANIES allowed it to happen. They killed
> > themselves.
> >
> > Graham
>
> I don't own any auto companies.
Obfuscation.
Graham
Michael A. Terrell
Its good that you admit it, but you really should seek help.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> Eeyore wrote:
>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
>>>>> That sounds like typical British lunacy.
>>>> I'd check out your UAW lunacy compelling Auto companies to pay workers to be paid
>>>> NOT to work first.
>>> Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
>> That wasn't my assertion. Your AUTO COMPANIES allowed it to happen. They killed
>> themselves.
>>
>> Graham
>
>
> I don't own any auto companies.
You soon will.
Michael A. Terrell
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > Eeyore wrote:
> >> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Eeyore wrote:
> >>>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> >>>>> That sounds like typical British lunacy.
> >>>> I'd check out your UAW lunacy compelling Auto companies to pay workers to be paid
> >>>> NOT to work first.
> >>> Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
> >> That wasn't my assertion. Your AUTO COMPANIES allowed it to happen. They killed
> >> themselves.
> >>
> >> Graham
> >
> >
> > I don't own any auto companies.
>
> You soon will.
Not me. I have no investments, and recently became 100% disabled, so
I have no income tax.
Eeyore
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> > Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > > Eeyore wrote:
> > >> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > >>> Eeyore wrote:
> > >>>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > >>>>> That sounds like typical British lunacy.
> > >>>> I'd check out your UAW lunacy compelling Auto companies to pay workers to be paid
> > >>>> NOT to work first.
> > >>> Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
> > >> That wasn't my assertion. Your AUTO COMPANIES allowed it to happen. They killed
> > >> themselves.
> > >>
> > >> Graham
> > >
> > > I don't own any auto companies.
> >
> > You soon will.
>
> Not me. I have no investments, and recently became 100% disabled, so
> I have no income tax.
But you are a citizen, and therefore a de factor shareholder in 'Detroit'.
Graham
Michael A. Terrell
Eeyore wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
>
> > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> > > Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > > > Eeyore wrote:
> > > >> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > > >>> Eeyore wrote:
> > > >>>> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
> > > >>>>> That sounds like typical British lunacy.
> > > >>>> I'd check out your UAW lunacy compelling Auto companies to pay workers to be paid
> > > >>>> NOT to work first.
> > > >>> Show me where I have EVER defended the UAW, dumbass Donkey.
> > > >> That wasn't my assertion. Your AUTO COMPANIES allowed it to happen. They killed
> > > >> themselves.
> > > >>
> > > >> Graham
> > > >
> > > > I don't own any auto companies.
> > >
> > > You soon will.
> >
> > Not me. I have no investments, and recently became 100% disabled, so
> > I have no income tax.
>
> But you are a citizen, and therefore a de factor shareholder in 'Detroit'.
Logic isn't you strong suit, is it?