What schematic drawing tool do you use ?
BrunoG
Could you please advise me ? I'm looking for an electronic circuit schematic
drawing tool.
I tested the Capilano Designworks free evaluation version, which sounds good
to me, but it is expired now. The licence is out of my price, so I would
like to know if the same kind of tool exists in the range 40 to $100.
Thanks a lot !
Bruno
http://www.micro-examples.com/public/microex-navig/doc/200-pic-microcontroller-examples.html
Joerg
No worries, it's in English.
Regards, Joerg
bill....@ieee.org
BrunoG wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could you please advise me ? I'm looking for an electronic circuit schematic
> drawing tool.
>
> I tested the Capilano Designworks free evaluation version, which sounds good
> to me, but it is expired now. The licence is out of my price, so I would
> like to know if the same kind of tool exists in the range 40 to $100.
Have a look at
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/ECADList.html
If you've got Linux on your computer, you might like to look at the
(free) gEDA package
-----------------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
BrunoG
news: iCYpf.35341$dO2....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Hi Joerg, I had an old broken evaluation version of Eagle on my computer, I
thought I was not able to reinstall the latest one but it works 8-}
There are much changes; it seems that I can't load the schematics made with
DesingWorks but mines are not very sophisticated so I should quickly draw
them again. That is worth the case because Eagle seems much more powerfull.
I have to see now if the non-commercial licence would fit my needs within
this licence agreement.
Thanks for your reply !
Bruno
http://www.micro-examples.com/public/microex-navig/doc/200-pic-microcontroller-examples.html
BrunoG
<bill....@ieee.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
1135121884.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Hi Bill, thanks for your reply, I think I will return to Windows Eagle
because I already use a Windows MikroC compiler. The list page you mention
is very interesting by the way !
Bruno
http://www.micro-examples.com/public/microex-navig/doc/200-pic-microcontroller-examples.html
Joerg
> Hi Joerg, I had an old broken evaluation version of Eagle on my computer, I
> thought I was not able to reinstall the latest one but it works 8-}
> There are much changes; it seems that I can't load the schematics made with
> DesingWorks but mines are not very sophisticated so I should quickly draw
> them again. That is worth the case because Eagle seems much more powerfull.
> I have to see now if the non-commercial licence would fit my needs within
> this licence agreement.
>
The eval is just for non-profit work. But Eagle isn't expensive at all.
If you create small circuits there is one version that costs under $100
depending on which country you are in.
Regards, Joerg
qrk
<nor...@micro-examples.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Could you please advise me ? I'm looking for an electronic circuit schematic
>drawing tool.
>
>I tested the Capilano Designworks free evaluation version, which sounds good
>to me, but it is expired now. The licence is out of my price, so I would
>like to know if the same kind of tool exists in the range 40 to $100.
>
>Thanks a lot !
>
>Bruno
Old DOS Orcad SDT is still a viable schematic program, even 10 years
after it has been off the market. Modern video drivers are available.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OldDosOrcad/
---
Mark
Ian Bell
> Hi,
>
> Could you please advise me ? I'm looking for an electronic circuit
> schematic drawing tool.
>
> I tested the Capilano Designworks free evaluation version, which sounds
> good to me, but it is expired now. The licence is out of my price, so I
> would like to know if the same kind of tool exists in the range 40 to
> $100.
>
Try Kicad. It's free and runs on Widows and Linux. Find it at:
http://www.lis.inpg.fr/realise_au_lis/kicad/index.html
Ian
Richard Hosking
Kicad is far ahead of gEDA
I have drafted a circuit with this - quite quick to learn and complete.
If this doesnt take your fancy I used the old Protel Autotrax in the old
days - this was a capable program and I think is now free. It wont run
on XP tho - you will have to use Win 98
R
BrunoG
43a957b3$0$14694$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
Thanks, Kicad looks great, I will try it !
Bruno
http://www.micro-examples.com/public/microex-navig/doc/200-pic-microcontroller-examples.html
Don Lancaster
I do all my schematics in raw PostScript using my Gonzo Utilities.
Nothing comes remotely close for quality and flexibility.
Yeah, the learning curve is a bitch.
On purpose.
Hundreds of examples on my website.
Gonzo utilities at http://www.tinaja.com/post01.asp#gonzo
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: d...@tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Jim Thompson
wrote:
>BrunoG wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could you please advise me ? I'm looking for an electronic circuit schematic
>> drawing tool.
>>
>> I tested the Capilano Designworks free evaluation version, which sounds good
>> to me, but it is expired now. The licence is out of my price, so I would
>> like to know if the same kind of tool exists in the range 40 to $100.
>>
>> Thanks a lot !
>>
>> Bruno
>> http://www.micro-examples.com/public/microex-navig/doc/200-pic-microcontroller-examples.html
>>
>>
>
>
>I do all my schematics in raw PostScript using my Gonzo Utilities.
>Nothing comes remotely close for quality and flexibility.
>
>Yeah, the learning curve is a bitch.
>On purpose.
>
>Hundreds of examples on my website.
>
>Gonzo utilities at http://www.tinaja.com/post01.asp#gonzo
Can it write a netlist ?:-)
...Jim Thompson
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| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
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"Winners never quit, quitters never win", Jack Bradley Budnik ~1956
Rich Webb
<To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
[snip...snip...]
>Can it write a netlist ?:-)
From what I recall of Don's Postscript articles back in the day, it can
probably do the netlist, auto-place and auto-route the circuit, create
the gerbers, create a BOM, get three bids, do the purchase orders, and
then place the orders for the boards and parts. ;-)
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
John Larkin
wrote:
>BrunoG wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could you please advise me ? I'm looking for an electronic circuit schematic
>> drawing tool.
>>
>> I tested the Capilano Designworks free evaluation version, which sounds good
>> to me, but it is expired now. The licence is out of my price, so I would
>> like to know if the same kind of tool exists in the range 40 to $100.
>>
>> Thanks a lot !
>>
>> Bruno
>> http://www.micro-examples.com/public/microex-navig/doc/200-pic-microcontroller-examples.html
>>
>>
>
>
>I do all my schematics in raw PostScript using my Gonzo Utilities.
>Nothing comes remotely close for quality and flexibility.
>
>Yeah, the learning curve is a bitch.
>On purpose.
>
>Hundreds of examples on my website.
>
>Gonzo utilities at http://www.tinaja.com/post01.asp#gonzo
I use 22x34 blue-grid vellum, and a Berol Turquoise F pencil. Design
automation is a Bruning electric eraser and a Boston electric pencil
sharpener.
Learning curve is minimal.
John
Winfield Hill
>
> I use 22x34 blue-grid vellum, and a Berol Turquoise F pencil. Design
> automation is a Bruning electric eraser and a Boston electric pencil
> sharpener.
I'm glad you identified the pencil sharpener, I was going to ask.
--
Thanks,
- Win
Ales
I don't agree with that opinion but then again I'm heavily
biased. :)
gEDA is a collection of tools that have been successfully
interfaced together. gEDA is certainly not as well integrated
as Kicad, but this is actually a major strength for power users.
It is fairly easy to add/substitute different programs into the
design flow. The various interfaces (symbol, footprint, netlists,
netlisters, etc...) or file formats are fairly well documented, so
it is easy to customize/modify the design flow.
Three more things that gEDA has going for it: a very well
established and stable support and development community,
gEDA interfaces well with other design tools (non-free/commercial),
and it has been proven to work well on fairly complex designs.
Please see:
http://geda.seul.org/links.html#projects
for some successful projects
My humble recommendation is that newbies and people who want a
fully integrated suite should use Kicad, while others who need the
flexibility of an open design flow suite should take a look at gEDA.
-Ales
--
Ales Hvezda
ahvezda AT seul.org
http://geda.seul.org
Walter Harley
news:43a897a1$0$20160$8fcf...@news.wanadoo.fr...
> >[...] That is worth the case because Eagle seems much more powerfull.
> I have to see now if the non-commercial licence would fit my needs within
> this licence agreement.
Eagle is what I use too. It is reasonably powerful, but be forewarned:
there are a lot of bugs, limitations, and idiosyncracies that will have you
pulling your hair out until you figure them out. I highly recommend reading
the manual and the tutorial closely, even though they are not well written;
and spend some time reading through the Eagle support newsgroups, because
the same issues come up over and over again. Perhaps the two biggest issues
are: "Cut" in Eagle means what "Copy" means in any other Windows program,
and you need to use "Net" rather than "Wire" to create a wire in a schematic
or PCB layout. (The toolbar icon for "Net" is not intuitively obvious.)
Use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom in and out, to get rid of "screen junk"
like leftover lines and text caused by the graphics bugs.
Also, be aware that the libraries contain errors, such as parts with
incorrect PCB footprints. Never assume that the library part is correct -
always check. And do learn how to make your own library parts; it is often
faster to make the right part than to search through the Eagle libraries
trying to find something that is not quite right.
-walter
Joerg
> Eagle is what I use too. It is reasonably powerful, but be forewarned:
> there are a lot of bugs, limitations, and idiosyncracies that will have you
> pulling your hair out until you figure them out. I highly recommend reading
> the manual and the tutorial closely, even though they are not well written; ...
Absolutely. I had the "luck" that an injury made me lay flat on a bed
for a couple days after I bought the license. Oh drat, right before
Christmas and I was scheduled to usher one of the Christmas services. So
I had plenty of time to study the booklet that came with it numerous
times, cover to cover. That paid off. There are too many people who get
the software, jump right in and then moan and groan about the more
unusual stuff. For example 'cut' in Eagle is often like 'copy' in most
other software. That alone can really throw you a curve.
I found the book written ok. A bit of 'German English' but since i speak
German that wasn't an issue. The words they chose are sometimes a little
outlandish. Took me a while to realize that a 'thermal' is not an
ancient health spa back in the times of the Romans but a 'thermal relief'.
Got to be honest here. If I hadn't been forced to bed rest I'd have
jumped right in like most everybody else. After all, engineers tend not
to read manuals because it is not the manly thing...
Merry Christmas, Joerg
Jim Thompson
<notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
[snip]
>
>Merry Christmas, Joerg
>
>http://www.analogconsultants.com
How's the weather up there? I had to turn on the air conditioning,
79°F outside right now ;-)
martin griffith
Thompson <To-Email-Use-Th...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:57:51 GMT, Joerg
><notthis...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>>Merry Christmas, Joerg
>>
>>http://www.analogconsultants.com
>
>How's the weather up there? I had to turn on the air conditioning,
>79°F outside right now ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
to cool or heat?
Merry FSMisms
martin
Michael A. Terrell
>
> How's the weather up there? I had to turn on the air conditioning,
> 79°F outside right now ;-)
>
No one cares, except your electric company. It was about 70 today so
I didn't have to turn the air conditioning or the heat on.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Pooh Bear
qrk wrote:
Funnily enough, due to certain constraints, I've been tempted to consider going
back to SDT 3.21 just recently.
Graham
Joerg
>
> How's the weather up there? I had to turn on the air conditioning,
> 79°F outside right now ;-)
>
It was around 60F because we are above the clouds, usually. Inside it
got up to 70F without any heat. The house is built in a passive energy
use fashion so the tile floor catches the heat from the sun and acts as
a natural masonry heater. In the summer you close the blinds until the
sun stops shining into the windows. Then things are kept cool as long as
the nights drop to below 60F and the blinds are opened at night.
Now it's raining and we fired up the wood stove because we'll have
dinner guests tonight.
Sometimes we see the clouds rolling in from the Bay Area. Often they are
about level with our deck and look rather spooky. You can sit in the sun
and then within seconds you are engulfed in mist, can't even see the end
of the deck. When our rottie mix was young he used to growl at the
clouds to make them go away. Worked every single time.
Regards, Joerg
David Brown
>> Kicad is far ahead of gEDA
>
> I don't agree with that opinion but then again I'm heavily
> biased. :)
>
> gEDA is a collection of tools that have been successfully
> interfaced together. gEDA is certainly not as well integrated
> as Kicad, but this is actually a major strength for power users.
> It is fairly easy to add/substitute different programs into the
> design flow. The various interfaces (symbol, footprint, netlists,
> netlisters, etc...) or file formats are fairly well documented, so
> it is easy to customize/modify the design flow.
>
> Three more things that gEDA has going for it: a very well
> established and stable support and development community,
> gEDA interfaces well with other design tools (non-free/commercial),
> and it has been proven to work well on fairly complex designs.
> Please see:
>
Are there any lists of the design tools it interfaces with? In
particular, one of the biggest obstacles to changing toolsets is
incompatibility of file formats. Apart from netlists (with are easy to
work with), the only standard formats are output formats like pdf and
gerber. If gEDA has tools for converting back and forth between
different binary formats, then I'd love to hear about it.
Joerg
>>I use 22x34 blue-grid vellum, and a Berol Turquoise F pencil. Design
>>automation is a Bruning electric eraser and a Boston electric pencil
>>sharpener.
>
> I'm glad you identified the pencil sharpener, I was going to ask.
>
But it isn't power outage proof. So I use a mechanical one. Most of the
time I just take grandpa's pocket knife and use that. It feels more
manly, almost like making your own LAN cables.
I must confess that I have never seen an electric eraser.
Regards, Joerg
Joerg
> Are there any lists of the design tools it interfaces with? In
> particular, one of the biggest obstacles to changing toolsets is
> incompatibility of file formats. Apart from netlists (with are easy to
> work with), the only standard formats are output formats like pdf and
> gerber. If gEDA has tools for converting back and forth between
> different binary formats, then I'd love to hear about it.
>
EDA tools mostly do not interface beyond the netlist format. IMHO this
whole EDIF effort was a joke, many EDA companies seem unwilling to
cooperate. So if they don't release their 'proprietary' formats those
that want to cooperate cannot do so.
Incompatibility was my biggest obstacle when I switched to Cadsoft
Eagle. But to me the price/performance ratio was much better than the
competition and I took the plunge.
Regards, Joerg