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a7yvm1...@netzero.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:51:55 PM11/24/09
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or rather a specific website. It's a Chinese place that makes hobby
PCB but also had weird and wonderful parts ...
This was a few years ago and I just can't remember the name.
Anyone have any hints?
TIA

don

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:25:54 PM11/24/09
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a7yvm1...@netzero.com wrote:
> or rather a specific website. It's a Chinese place that makes hobby
> PCB but also had weird and wonderful parts ...

How does a hobby PCB differ from a professional PCB ??

Joel Koltner

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:36:59 PM11/24/09
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> How does a hobby PCB differ from a professional PCB ??

Usually no electrical test and no specs are given for stuff like dielectric
constant or loss tangent -- you get whatever happens to be cheap. Even
mechanical specs tend to be rather looser (e.g., 62mils+/-15).


Spehro Pefhany

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:47:11 PM11/24/09
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Maybe you're thinking of Futurlec, but I think they're more of the
Thai persuasion.


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Spehro Pefhany
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Spehro Pefhany

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:49:53 PM11/24/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:25:54 -0700, the renowned don <don> wrote:

>a7yvm1...@netzero.com wrote:
>> or rather a specific website. It's a Chinese place that makes hobby
>> PCB but also had weird and wonderful parts ...
>
>How does a hobby PCB differ from a professional PCB ??

Looser design rules (eg. minimum trace width and annular ring), more
restrictions on material and construction, fewer layers, setup cost is
more important than quality, users don't like to pay too much for
shipping etc.

>
>> This was a few years ago and I just can't remember the name.
>> Anyone have any hints?
>> TIA

a7yvm1...@netzero.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:47:07 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 7:25 pm, don <don> wrote:

Pricing and one-off quantities. Next question?

a7yvm1...@netzero.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:48:21 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 7:47 pm, Spehro Pefhany <speffS...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
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> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:51:55 -0800 (PST), the renowned
>

Bingo! Anytime you're in Montreal, there's a pint of Murphy's for you!

a7yvm1...@netzero.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:54:49 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 7:25 pm, don <don> wrote:
> a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com wrote:
> > or rather a specific website. It's a Chinese place that makes hobby
> > PCB but also had weird and wonderful parts ...
>
> How does a hobby PCB differ from a professional PCB ??
>
Oh and what the other guys said! Basically if the PCB is made from
dollar store vanilla wafers, I don't care as long as it doesn't melt
when I plop down my latest intellectual foolishness.

Spehro Pefhany

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:02:50 PM11/24/09
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a7yvm1...@netzero.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:13:07 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 8:02 pm, Spehro Pefhany <speffS...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
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Yeah, it's pretty epic. I am trying to lose 10 pounds and get back to
biking shape, well skiing shape now.
I avoid places like that.

don

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:12:02 PM11/24/09
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:48:21 -0800 (PST), the renowned
> a7yvm1...@netzero.com wrote:
>
>> On Nov 24, 7:47 pm, Spehro Pefhany <speffS...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:51:55 -0800 (PST), the renowned
>>>
>>> a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com wrote:
>>>> or rather a specific website. It's a Chinese place that makes hobby
>>>> PCB but also had weird and wonderful parts ...
>>>> This was a few years ago and I just can't remember the name.
>>>> Anyone have any hints?
>>>> TIA
>>> Maybe you're thinking of Futurlec, but I think they're more of the
>>> Thai persuasion.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Spehro Pefhany
>>> --
>>> "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
>>> sp...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers:http://www.trexon.com
>>> Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
>> Bingo! Anytime you're in Montreal, there's a pint of Murphy's for you!
>
> This place is calling to me..
>
> http://www.restolabanquise.com/index.php?page=poutines&sp=&langue=an

Oh poutines, not poontang

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poontang

>
>
> Best regards,
> Spehro Pefhany

a7yvm1...@netzero.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:40:51 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 10:12 pm, don <don> wrote:
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> Oh poutines, not poontang
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poontang
>

Kathoeys, not kablooey.

Spehro Pefhany

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:23:46 PM11/24/09
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Nobody seems 100% sure of the origin of either word, but poontang
seems to be related to "putain" (whore). Poutine might be related to
the English word "pudding". Either one might be a hazard for those who
have had a few beers.

Fred Bartoli

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:41:44 AM11/25/09
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a7yvm1...@netzero.com a �crit :

Yeah, it would be rash poutines...

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Thanks,
Fred.

Robert Baer

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Nov 25, 2009, 3:48:16 AM11/25/09
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..it has a wooden rocking horse...

Rich Grise

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:36:56 AM11/25/09
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who where

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Nov 25, 2009, 6:58:47 PM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:48:21 -0800 (PST), a7yvm1...@netzero.com
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They restructured their pcb pricing a couple of years back.
Previously they had proto offerings at area price only (no setup) but
that's gone. The price was good but the quality varied from
acceptable to useless. Boards now are "good Chinese" quality - and I
don't mean anything negative with that. Based on analysing order
numbers on our stuff going through there, they don't turn over enough
boards to be doing them in-house. I assume they are outsourcing to a
Chinese fab, a view reinforced by the packaging of the finished
boards.

Their setup costs are comparable to say PCBcart but the area cost -
which is constant unlike PCBcart - is higher, so most of our stuff
goes PCBcart nowadays.

Their pricing for some components is quite good. The sales manager is
an ex-pat Aussie.

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