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Jim Thompson

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Nov 16, 2012, 6:26:00 PM11/16/12
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Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, a really good read...

http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=6646

And the important stuff, how to bake your own Twinkies...

http://tinyurl.com/bmv9koo

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P E Schoen

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Nov 17, 2012, 3:36:22 AM11/17/12
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
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> Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, a really good read...

> http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=6646

Your link doesn't work. Here's one that does:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-farewell-speech-video/

I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the problems
of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf of special
interests and politicians motivated by power. The main problem is that a
government based on individual liberties can be successful only when people
are virtuous and guided by principles of rational morality. We need to turn
away from our culture of violence which is evidenced by undeclared wars as
well as government sponsored invasion, by means of force, of personal
privacy, liberty, and choice.

Paul

Jim Thompson

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Nov 17, 2012, 11:11:49 AM11/17/12
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:36:22 -0500, "P E Schoen" <pa...@peschoen.com>
wrote:

>"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
>news:6cida8ph98u8qvvdv...@4ax.com...
>
>> Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, a really good read...
>
>> http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=6646
>
>Your link doesn't work.

Huh? I just clicked on the link and it works just fine.

>Here's one that does:
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-farewell-speech-video/
>
>I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the problems
>of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf of special
>interests and politicians motivated by power. The main problem is that a
>government based on individual liberties can be successful only when people
>are virtuous and guided by principles of rational morality. We need to turn
>away from our culture of violence which is evidenced by undeclared wars as
>well as government sponsored invasion, by means of force, of personal
>privacy, liberty, and choice.
>
>Paul

You leftists want to turn the US into ass-kissers instead of
ass-kickers.

Unfortunately you are succeeding :-(

cameo

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Nov 17, 2012, 2:45:24 PM11/17/12
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On 11/17/2012 12:36 AM, P E Schoen wrote:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-farewell-speech-video/
>
>
> I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the
> problems of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf
> of special interests and politicians motivated by power. The main
> problem is that a government based on individual liberties can be
> successful only when people are virtuous and guided by principles of
> rational morality. We need to turn away from our culture of violence
> which is evidenced by undeclared wars as well as government sponsored
> invasion, by means of force, of personal privacy, liberty, and choice.

Now, if you could just convince other governments about this that would
do us harm, we could get somehere.

alie...@gmail.com

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Nov 17, 2012, 3:20:28 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 17, 12:36 am, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com> wrote:
> "Jim Thompson"  wrote in message
>
> news:6cida8ph98u8qvvdv...@4ax.com...
>
> > Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, a really good read...
> >      http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=6646
>
> Your link doesn't work. Here's one that does:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-f...
>
> I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the problems
> of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf of special
> interests and politicians motivated by power. The main problem is that a
> government based on individual liberties can be successful only when people
> are virtuous and guided by principles of rational morality. We need to turn
> away from our culture of violence which is evidenced by undeclared wars as
> well as government sponsored invasion, by means of force, of personal
> privacy, liberty, and choice.

Sigh. Take a lesson from the King Asoka of the Mauryan Empire.


Mark L. Fergerson
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Charles

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Nov 17, 2012, 7:41:48 PM11/17/12
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Big snip here because I want to focus on one thing. An ass-kicker country?
National debt? Don't think so and the implosion is imminent. The
ass-kicker thing goes way back to post WWII when we could do no wrong and
now we can do no right because we are in debt to unfriendly countries.

Bill Sloman

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Nov 17, 2012, 9:45:02 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 18, 3:11 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:36:22 -0500, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Jim Thompson"  wrote in message
> >news:6cida8ph98u8qvvdv...@4ax.com...
>
> >> Ron Paul's Farewell Speech to Congress, a really good read...
>
> >>      http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=6646
>
> >Your link doesn't work.
>
> Huh?  I just clicked on the link and it works just fine.
>
> >Here's one that does:
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-f...
>
> >I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the problems
> >of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf of special
> >interests and politicians motivated by power. The main problem is that a
> >government based on individual liberties can be successful only when people
> >are virtuous and guided by principles of rational morality. We need to turn
> >away from our culture of violence which is evidenced by undeclared wars as
> >well as government sponsored invasion, by means of force, of personal
> >privacy, liberty, and choice.
>
> >Paul
>
> You leftists want to turn the US into ass-kissers instead of
> ass-kickers.
>
> Unfortunately you are succeeding :-(

US ass-kicking has worked so abysmally badly in Irak and Iran that
it's obvious that you needed to turn to ass-kissing.

Unfortunately, the Tea Party has a majority in Congress, and it's
those asses who will have to be kissed before anything sensible can
get done, and they prefer money to honeyed words.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bill Sloman

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Nov 17, 2012, 9:47:50 PM11/17/12
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Actually, you can do no right because your electoral system now works
to elect the candidate who can spend more on well-targeted TV
advertising, which has bought you the congress you deserve, though you
managed to avoid electing the president you deserved.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bill Sloman

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Nov 17, 2012, 9:54:45 PM11/17/12
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On Nov 18, 6:45 am, cameo <ca...@unreal.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/17/2012 12:36 AM, P E Schoen wrote:
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-f...
>
> > I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the
> > problems of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf
> > of special interests and politicians motivated by power. The main
> > problem is that a government based on individual liberties can be
> > successful only when people are virtuous and guided by principles of
> > rational morality. We need to turn away from our culture of violence
> > which is evidenced by undeclared wars as well as government sponsored
> > invasion, by means of force, of personal privacy, liberty, and choice.
>
> Now, if you could just convince other governments about this.

No problem. You've got more money than pretty much anybody else, so
undeclared wars ought to be just your thing. The fact that you
reliably back bunches of biddable thugs who only stay biddable until
you've got them into power is an error of judgment on your part. No
other government is silly enough to want to play that particular game,
least of all against you.

> that would do us harm, we could get somewhere.

I wonder what that part of the sentence was intended to mean. Cameo
probably doesn't know either.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Bill Sloman

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Nov 18, 2012, 12:07:58 AM11/18/12
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On Nov 18, 10:20 am, flipper <flip...@fish.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:45:24 -0800, cameo <ca...@unreal.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >On 11/17/2012 12:36 AM, P E Schoen wrote:
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/14/ron-pauls-f...
>
> >> I was impressed by Ron Paul's wisdom. He correctly identified the
> >> problems of growing oppression and tyranny by government force on behalf
> >> of special interests and politicians motivated by power. The main
> >> problem is that a government based on individual liberties can be
> >> successful only when people are virtuous and guided by principles of
> >> rational morality. We need to turn away from our culture of violence
> >> which is evidenced by undeclared wars as well as government sponsored
> >> invasion, by means of force, of personal privacy, liberty, and choice.
>
> >Now, if you could just convince other governments about this that would
> >do us harm, we could get somehere.
>
> All ya gotta do is smile and be 'nice', dontcha know?
>
> It is truly mind boggling that after a few thousand years of history
> proving exactly the opposite that people can still come to that
> patently ridiculous conclusion.

Speak softly, but carry a big stick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Stick_ideology

As Winston Churchill said "Jaw-jaw is cheaper than war,war".

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Tim Williams

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Nov 18, 2012, 12:07:43 PM11/18/12
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"Bill Sloman" <bill....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
>

Yeah, but how long as it been since the US had a Teddy Roosevelt in
office?

Say it's about time we get another. Probably too late really.

Tim

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Bill Sloman

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Nov 18, 2012, 8:10:33 PM11/18/12
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On Nov 19, 4:08 am, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...@charter.net> wrote:
> "BillSloman" <bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a9d09caf-caeb-41bc...@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
>
> Yeah, but how long as it been since the US had a Teddy Roosevelt in
> office?
>
> Say it's about time we get another.  Probably too late really.

True. Teddy Roosevelt was enthusiastic about trust busting and
increased regulation of businesses, and you could do with a bit more
of that, but any candidate running on that ticket today wouldn't get
a lot of corporate support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

hamilton

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Nov 18, 2012, 9:03:15 PM11/18/12
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On 11/18/2012 6:10 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On Nov 19, 4:08 am, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...@charter.net> wrote:
>> "BillSloman" <bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a9d09caf-caeb-41bc...@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
>>
>> Yeah, but how long as it been since the US had a Teddy Roosevelt in
>> office?
>>
>> Say it's about time we get another. Probably too late really.
>
> True. Teddy Roosevelt was enthusiastic about trust busting and
> increased regulation of businesses, and you could do with a bit more

"He was a leader of the Republican Party"

Bill Sloman

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Nov 18, 2012, 10:56:42 PM11/18/12
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On Nov 19, 1:03 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:
> On 11/18/2012 6:10 PM,BillSlomanwrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 4:08 am, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> "BillSloman" <bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:a9d09caf-caeb-41bc...@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
>
> >> Yeah, but how long as it been since the US had a Teddy Roosevelt in
> >> office?
>
> >> Say it's about time we get another.  Probably too late really.
>
> > True. Teddy Roosevelt was enthusiastic about trust busting and
> > increased regulation of businesses, and you could do with a bit more
> > of that,
>
> "He was a leader of the Republican Party"

But of the progressive wing of the Republican Party, at a time when
the Republican Party was a lot more liberal than it is now, and the
Democrats a lot less liberal.

hamilton

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Nov 18, 2012, 11:22:07 PM11/18/12
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On 11/18/2012 8:56 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On Nov 19, 1:03 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:
>> On 11/18/2012 6:10 PM,BillSlomanwrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 19, 4:08 am, "Tim Williams" <tmoran...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> "BillSloman" <bill.slo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> news:a9d09caf-caeb-41bc...@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>>> Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
>>
>>>> Yeah, but how long as it been since the US had a Teddy Roosevelt in
>>>> office?
>>
>>>> Say it's about time we get another. Probably too late really.
>>
>>> True. Teddy Roosevelt was enthusiastic about trust busting and
>>> increased regulation of businesses, and you could do with a bit more
>>> of that,
>>
>> "He was a leader of the Republican Party"
>
> But of the progressive wing of the Republican Party, at a time when
> the Republican Party was a lot more liberal than it is now, and the
> Democrats a lot less liberal.

Yes, I know you know that, but our R friends in this group don't.
They think a R is an R and always has been.

Pity.
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