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Jim Thompson  
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Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:08:17 -0700
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Subject: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
Headline: Petraeus Resigns

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From: brent <buleg...@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:10:10 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 9, 3:08 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-

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> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

>                                         ...Jim Thompson
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> I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.

turns out he was a compromised individual after all.

 
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From: hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:29:21 -0700
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
On 11/9/2012 1:10 PM, brent wrote:

Another Right Wing religious nut job gets caught with his P*P* where it
doesn't belong.

CIA Director Petraeus Resigns, Cites Extramarital Affair

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/NATL-CIA-Dir...


 
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Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:50:36 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
On Nov 9, 3:29 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:

you seem so angry since Obama won.  Why so PO' ed?

 
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From: "Tom Del Rosso" <tomd...@verizon.net.invalid>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:07:04 -0500
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Jim Thompson wrote:
> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

It's a little surreal to see how the allegation of an affair is normally
handled when the guilty party doesn't get politicized defense.

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From: Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:36:38 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

> > Headline: Petraeus Resigns

> It's a little surreal to see how the allegation of an affair is normally
> handled when the guilty party doesn't get politicized defense.

How do the French keep defense/intel secrets?

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From: Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:21:45 -0600
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Jim Thompson wrote:
> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

>                                          ...Jim Thompson

Turns out G.I. Joe was not anatomically correct.

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From: Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:27:05 -0600
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Jim Thompson wrote:
>> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

> It's a little surreal to see how the allegation of an affair is normally
> handled when the guilty party doesn't get politicized defense.

Past a certain point in the security clearance hierarchy, an affair
is as good as a resignation.

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From: Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:27:23 -0600
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

>> It's a little surreal to see how the allegation of an affair is normally
>> handled when the guilty party doesn't get politicized defense.

> How do the French keep defense/intel secrets?

> Bret Cahill

They don't.

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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:27:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:29:21 -0700, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com>
wrote:

What is this fuss all about ?

In France an extramarital child might even increase the popularity of
an (ex) president :-)

An extra marital affair is a security risk as long as the partners try
to keep their affair secret, since they are potential blackmail
victims.

After the affair is publicly known, only the betrayed spouse can
blackmail that person.


 
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From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:33:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Les Cargill wrote:

> Jim Thompson wrote:
> > Headline: Petraeus Resigns

> >                                          ...Jim Thompson

> Turns out G.I. Joe was not anatomically correct.

   Why would even care to know?

 
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From: Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:43:45 -0600
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> Les Cargill wrote:

>> Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

>>>                                           ...Jim Thompson

>> Turns out G.I. Joe was not anatomically correct.

>     Why would even care to know?

I don't know. I didn't start the thread. Read it again until it's
funny; there is something deeply humorous about Petraeus being forced
to resign on grounds of virility.

The Sovs always made up an "illness" story. We use... something
else.

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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:34:33 -0500
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

Les Cargill wrote:
> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> > Jim Thompson wrote:
> > > Headline: Petraeus Resigns

> > It's a little surreal to see how the allegation of an affair is
> > normally handled when the guilty party doesn't get politicized
> > defense.

> Past a certain point in the security clearance hierarchy, an affair
> is as good as a resignation.

Of course, but this is the way these things are normally handled.

The case of Herman Cain was handled "normally" too.  He asked a girl if she
wanted to go to a hotel.  Now if he had sent a state trooper to aquisition
her and take her to the hotel room and asked her to "kiss it", and if he was
now President Elect, I wouldn't call that normal.

But the long course of events seems surreal when people act with such
astounding hypocrisy as if it's all ok.

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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:46:26 +0000
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
On 10/11/2012 06:27, upsided...@downunder.com wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:29:21 -0700, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com>
> wrote:

>> On 11/9/2012 1:10 PM, brent wrote:
>>> On Nov 9, 3:08 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
>>> Web-Site.com> wrote:
>>>> Headline: Petraeus Resigns

>>>>                                           ...Jim Thompson

Pity he was really good General in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
And he would probably have gone on to be a good CIA chief too.

Indeed. Now it is public so what? As the Duke of Wellington famously
said to the courtesan Harriette Wilson "Publish and be damned".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriette_Wilson

Famous military men through history are not noted for their strict
celibacy - I fail to see why this is news or why he had to go.

OK. Perhaps in a deranged puritanical theocracy it is a problem with the
Repugnicons getting ready to stone to death the woman involved.

> After the affair is publicly known, only the betrayed spouse can
> blackmail that person.

I am curious - How?

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:46:26 +0000, Martin Brown

<|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> After the affair is publicly known, only the betrayed spouse can
>> blackmail that person.

>I am curious - How?

Pedophilia charges, unfortunately too common in divorce cases.

"Pillow talks" , much more potential in a marriage than in an ad hoc
relationship.


 
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:55:57 -0500
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:36:38 -0800 (PST), the renowned Bret Cahill

<Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Headline: Petraeus Resigns

>> It's a little surreal to see how the allegation of an affair is normally
>> handled when the guilty party doesn't get politicized defense.

>How do the French keep defense/intel secrets?
>Bret Cahill

It's only a problem if it is a deep dark secret that can be used to
pressure the individual (like being in the closet). If it's something
akin to having the occasional smoke- slightly embarassing to have it
pointed out in company, but hardly earth-shattering, it's not really a
problem for anyone. BTW, I don't for a minute believe that the wives
involved were not aware something was going on, either in France or in
the US, but that's not the same as having everyone else know.

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Martin Brown wrote:
> On 10/11/2012 06:27, upsided...@downunder.com wrote:
<snip>

> OK. Perhaps in a deranged puritanical theocracy it is a problem with the
> Repugnicons getting ready to stone to death the woman involved.

Us murkins do "gotcha" politics. It's an ingrown version of "meritocracy".

<snip>

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The only way I can stand the noise at all is to realize that it *is*
surreal to begin with, that all the framing and making-into-narrative
distorts things so badly that what's left is nothing.

I dunno - that works for me.

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It is too bad, but as head of CIA... I think he had to step down.

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"Martin Brown" <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Famous military men through history are not noted for their strict
> celibacy - I fail to see why this is news or why he had to go.

"After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by
engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a
husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours," the retired
four-star general said. "This afternoon, the President graciously accepted
my resignation"

What a disgrace. Even Bill Clinton had more dignity.

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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns
On 11/9/2012 12:29 PM, hamilton wrote:

> Another Right Wing religious nut job gets caught with his P*P* where it
> doesn't belong.

> CIA Director Petraeus Resigns, Cites Extramarital Affair

> http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/NATL-CIA-Dir...

Not like a left wing liberal ever committed such a thing. Ask Monica.

 
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Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:23:15 -0700
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:48:10 -0600, "Vladimir Vassilevsky"

Yep, The Bill was the epitome of that French joke, "What woman?" ;-)

                                        ...Jim Thompson
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On 2012-11-10, Les Cargill <lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote:

what if the woman is a spy?

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On 11/11/2012 11:14, Jasen Betts wrote:

Or was two timing with a Russian spy eg.
Christine Keeler in the Profumo Affair.

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Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:29:43 -0600
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Subject: Re: Headline: Petraeus Resigns

I suppose there is actual training materials and reams of regulation
on exactly what can transpire before it's a security breach?

> To wit, how are you going to explain to the rank and file that taking
> up with whatever bimbo who bats an eye is a potential security
> compromise if you wink and nod at the man with more security
> information than anyone else exercising similar 'judgment'?

We are already neck deep in swampy non-concepts...

"Judgement".

>> The Sovs always made up an "illness" story. We use... something
>> else.

> That because the Soviets had to "make up" something since, in their
> system, the 'privileged' were allowed whatever they wanted.

No, because absolutely nothing was ever issued as information
that *wasn't* made up, really :)

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Les Cargill


 
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