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John Sosa

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Oct 20, 2004, 5:51:04 PM10/20/04
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Hello,

This question is to all those that prototype using wire wrapping.
Currently, I have a large design that I want to wire wrap, and have
done the all the CAD drawings in Orcad. (I generally do everything in
Orcad) The problem with this is that I don't really want to wire wrap
directly from the schematic. Also, I have heard from friends that
there used to be some software that converted netlists to a list of
wirewrap connections. Also, this software was intelligent enought to
not give more than three wraps per post, etc. Apperantly the software
gave a listing of the order and between what chips the wraps needed to
go. I have searched on Google using different search criteria, but
nothing.

So, any help locating an application that does this would be great.

Regards,
John

Clarence

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Oct 20, 2004, 6:00:27 PM10/20/04
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"John Sosa" <john...@seagate.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> This question is to all those that prototype using wire wrapping.
> Currently, I have a large design that I want to wire wrap, and have
> done the all the CAD drawings in Orcad. (I generally do everything in
> Orcad) The problem with this is that I don't really want to wire wrap
> directly from the schematic. Also, I have heard from friends that
> there used to be some software that converted netlists to a list of
> wirewrap connections. Also, this software was intelligent enough to
> not give more than three wraps per post, etc. Apparently the software

> gave a listing of the order and between what chips the wraps needed to
> go. I have searched on Google using different search criteria, but
> nothing.
>
> So, any help locating an application that does this would be great.
>
> Regards,
> John

I haven't seen a Wire Wrap program in twenty years.
However if you use Ocad, the placement tolls will allow for getting an
efficient arrangement, and select the routing method which chains the
connections so there will never be more than two connections per point (Wrap)
and use the NET list to create a wire wrap list by editing it into a easy to
work with format and provide a check off box for each wire.

DJ Delorie

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Oct 20, 2004, 6:08:26 PM10/20/04
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john...@seagate.com (John Sosa) writes:
> This question is to all those that prototype using wire wrapping.
> Currently, I have a large design that I want to wire wrap, and have
> done the all the CAD drawings in Orcad. (I generally do everything in
> Orcad) The problem with this is that I don't really want to wire wrap
> directly from the schematic. Also, I have heard from friends that
> there used to be some software that converted netlists to a list of
> wirewrap connections. Also, this software was intelligent enought to
> not give more than three wraps per post, etc. Apperantly the software
> gave a listing of the order and between what chips the wraps needed to
> go. I have searched on Google using different search criteria, but
> nothing.

PCB does something close - when you first import a netlist, it creates
a "rats nest" showing the minimum spanning tree for each net (doesn't
everyone do this?). Since sources for PCB are available (not everyone
does *this* ;), you could easily modify the spanning tree algorithm to
disqualify any pin with three rats to it already, then you can
highlight each net one at a time as you do the wrapping.

Of course, you still have to place all your footprints and such first,
but the advantage is that since it know where everything is, it can
minimize wire length.

http://pcb.sourceforge.net/

Hmmm... as you do each wire, you can push that rat to a hidden copper
layer, removing it from the display. As long as you don't use the
"optimize rats" partway through a net, else the three-link-max rule
won't work.

Roy Battell

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Oct 21, 2004, 2:34:56 AM10/21/04
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In article <4a59d41a.04102...@posting.google.com>, John Sosa
<john...@seagate.com> writes

When Vutrax started out Wire-wrap was the norm and it still produces
this sort of output if you want it - a wiring order list of wrapping
points with wire length included, never using a pin for more than
two wraps. Experience showed the most error freed method was to ignore
IC pin numbers etc. and work by coordinates. You can choose your own
column/row naming or numbering conventions. You can also output a
check-list for 'buzzing' out the wiring in an efficient order.

You may be able to export a simple pin to pin net list
for your design and import this and use the wire-wrap output.
For new projects you can use the whole Schematic > routing >
Finished board. The wire-wrap output is available after schematic
analysis and placement and part of the rats-nest suite.

Vutrax can be downloaded from one of
http://www.vutrax.co.uk (Main UK site)
http://www.protonique.com/vutrax (Central Europe Mirror)
Free for evaluation and DIY size projects up to 256 pin with
no time limits, no required internet access, or other tricks.
Available for Windows 95 through XP, and Linux.
--
Roy Battell.
To use this address remove the digits included to remove Spam ...
Mail: ne...@vutrax666.co.uk

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