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  <title type="text">sci.electronics.basics Google Group</title>
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  Elementary questions about electronics.
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  <updated>2010-01-08T05:02:25Z</updated>
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  <email>nos...@nevis.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-08T04:22:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/accbd489d66dc698?show_docid=accbd489d66dc698</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Because that&#39;s how one reads, from the beginning of a story to the end. &lt;br&gt; Each post is like a conversation in a novel. Someone coming late to a &lt;br&gt; thread can follow the whole conversation from the start and be up to &lt;br&gt; speed by what has transpired before. &lt;br&gt; Usenet is dead because most ISP&#39;s no longer offer it for free, and
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  <author>
  <name>Josepi</name>
  <email>j...@invaliid.con</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-08T05:02:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/854e8ade58cd2b16?show_docid=854e8ade58cd2b16</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Exactly, so why would you start at the bottom with your post? &lt;br&gt; Bottom posting arguments and other general stupidity is killing it. &lt;br&gt; Usenet reads like a book, top posters are a pain in the ass. Doesn&#39;t &lt;br&gt; matter anyway, usenet is dead &lt;br&gt; Unbelievable. I didn&#39;t have to mouse scroll down and then back up again to
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Fields</name>
  <email>jfie...@austininstruments.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-08T03:55:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/4a846fb41e339133?show_docid=4a846fb41e339133</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  --- &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Seasoned and thinking Usenet operators&amp;quot;??? &lt;br&gt; Shirley you must be joking. &lt;br&gt; No matter how you try to cut it, your &amp;quot;defense&amp;quot; of an atrocious and &lt;br&gt; contrived USENET posting style coupled with your obvious lack of &lt;br&gt; knowledge of the origins of USENET brands you as an ignorant &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;johnny-come-lately&amp;quot; narcissistic troublemaker with no real interest in
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>John Fields</name>
  <email>jfie...@austininstruments.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-08T03:32:22Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:46:45 -0800 (PST), Michael B &lt;br&gt; --- &lt;br&gt; You already have, since you&#39;ve latched on to an &amp;quot;old&amp;quot; posting style &lt;br&gt; which is convenient for email tete-a-tete where the participants are &lt;br&gt; privy know what went before. &lt;br&gt; It&#39;s not convenient for USENET however and, as much as you rail against &lt;br&gt; it, bottom and inline posting is considered de rigueur by most of the
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  <author>
  <email>nos...@nevis.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-08T03:03:53Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Usenet reads like a book, top posters are a pain in the ass. Doesn&#39;t &lt;br&gt; matter anyway, usenet is dead
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  <author>
  <name>Josepi</name>
  <email>j...@invaliid.con</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-08T02:33:50Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/b3042a2276fd1b87?show_docid=b3042a2276fd1b87"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Unbelievable. I didn&#39;t have to mouse scroll down and then back up again to &lt;br&gt; see if I missed anything... &lt;br&gt; and look! You header, and JF&#39;s is with your text and the one before it are &lt;br&gt; all in order. &lt;br&gt; I have seen many articles on top posting and it seems it will be the way of &lt;br&gt; the future once people get more modern Usenet browsers that can actually not
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  <author>
  <name>Michael B</name>
  <email>baugh...@bellsouth.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-08T02:13:23Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Go to the medical boards sometime. &lt;br&gt; Arthritis, chronic pain, cancer, etc. &lt;br&gt; See if your &amp;gt;99% observation applies. &lt;br&gt; When economy of movement, as well &lt;br&gt; as a small group that knows what has &lt;br&gt; come before, top posting is most practical. &lt;br&gt; Hmm, now that I think of it, there is an &lt;br&gt; enormous number of specific-interest
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Harriet LABELLA</name>
  <email>imonadegah...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-08T00:33:15Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/28dd0aeadd4f50fa/6f46e659789a0f57?show_docid=6f46e659789a0f57"/>
  <title type="text">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CHUCK HAWKS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</title>
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  . &lt;br&gt; ~~~***~~~ &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ENTER HERE: &lt;br&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://web-sweb.com/2/chuck-hawks&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; ============================== ====================
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Josepi</name>
  <email>j...@invaliid.con</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T23:06:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/c768b6ebf03f86c4?show_docid=c768b6ebf03f86c4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/c768b6ebf03f86c4?show_docid=c768b6ebf03f86c4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Dimentia becoming aproblem? &lt;br&gt; It&#39;s not even a very good news-reader ;-) &lt;br&gt; AFAIK, you can&#39;t use OE as a &#39;browser&#39; to surf the WWW :-/ &lt;br&gt; daestrom
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>June Gaines</name>
  <email>gainesqviojunev...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T23:06:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/914ca83af354c043/8818607618495dd2?show_docid=8818607618495dd2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/914ca83af354c043/8818607618495dd2?show_docid=8818607618495dd2"/>
  <title type="text">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BIKINI VIDEO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</title>
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  . &lt;br&gt; ~~~***~~~ &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ENTER HERE: &lt;br&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://web-sweb.com/2/bikini-video&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; ============================== ====================
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Josepi</name>
  <email>j...@invaliid.con</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T23:06:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/2400632373796a2e?show_docid=2400632373796a2e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/2400632373796a2e?show_docid=2400632373796a2e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Was that when you were a ship&#39;s captain in the Navy, a nuclear Physicist or &lt;br&gt; a Hydro Operator? &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;the usual snipped&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; daestrom
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jon Kirwan</name>
  <email>j...@infinitefactors.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T22:39:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/6818312c6e2f5489/c84122e950bee9e9?show_docid=c84122e950bee9e9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/6818312c6e2f5489/c84122e950bee9e9?show_docid=c84122e950bee9e9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Help with Simple circuit and relay</title>
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  On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:44:24 -0800 (PST), ULB &lt;br&gt; I think your use of a car battery, in this application, is &lt;br&gt; good. It will have _no_ problems sourcing the current needed &lt;br&gt; and the squibs will heat quickly. Which is what you want. No &lt;br&gt; need for a capacitor. In fact, ignore my comments there. It &lt;br&gt; was just something I experimented with, with an eye to
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>daestrom</name>
  <email>daest...@twcny.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T21:48:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/5f92e01b31c60d8c?show_docid=5f92e01b31c60d8c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/5f92e01b31c60d8c?show_docid=5f92e01b31c60d8c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  It&#39;s not even a very good news-reader ;-) &lt;br&gt; AFAIK, you can&#39;t use OE as a &#39;browser&#39; to surf the WWW :-/ &lt;br&gt; daestrom
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>daestrom</name>
  <email>daest...@twcny.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T21:46:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/0da537b10c67d7d9?show_docid=0da537b10c67d7d9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/0da537b10c67d7d9?show_docid=0da537b10c67d7d9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  ftp??? Boy, that came along much later. Usenet is an offshoot of old &lt;br&gt; &#39;bulletin board&#39; systems. Starting out on UN*X machines at &lt;br&gt; universities, it used UUCP to transfer batches of messages from machine &lt;br&gt; to machine. That was pre IP-protocol days. &lt;br&gt; Browsers &lt;br&gt; Change that to &#39;news readers&#39; and you&#39;d be right. &#39;Browsers&#39; were
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>daestrom</name>
  <email>daest...@twcny.rr.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-01-07T21:36:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/90af560e554effa5?show_docid=90af560e554effa5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.basics/browse_thread/thread/82592179af17fdd2/90af560e554effa5?show_docid=90af560e554effa5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A question about coil winding</title>
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  Actually, &#39;usenet&#39; is a lot older than the WWW. Before http and www, &lt;br&gt; there was uucp (unix-to-unix copy). You could send e-mail and usenet &lt;br&gt; messages without an &#39;internet&#39;. &lt;br&gt; daestrom
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