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Re: Simple way to bind wires, without ties

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Jasen Betts

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Jan 28, 2012, 5:41:09 AM1/28/12
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On 2012-01-28, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> Take a wire of whatever sort that is about 4 feet long. Fold it in
> half. Fold it in half again. Now it is 1 foot long. Grab both ends
> and tie the first loop of a square knot. That's it. It stays stuck
> together in a much more compact and easy to manage form.
>

> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="tying cables.jpg"

That's not a square knot, that's an overhand knot.

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fungus

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Jan 30, 2012, 5:04:41 AM1/30/12
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On Jan 28, 11:41 am, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
> On 2012-01-28, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Take a wire of whatever sort that is about 4 feet long. Fold it in
> > half. Fold it in half again. Now it is 1 foot long. Grab both ends
> > and tie the first loop of a square knot. That's it. It stays stuck
> > together in a much more compact and easy to manage form.
>
> > Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="tying cables.jpg"
>
> That's not a square knot, that's an overhand knot.
>

Does it only work for four-foot wires? Mine are measured in metric.

What about two meters?

John Doe

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Jan 30, 2012, 6:11:30 AM1/30/12
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fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:

> Jasen Betts <jasen xnet.co.nz> wrote:
>> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>>> Take a wire of whatever sort that is about 4 feet long. Fold
>>> it in half. Fold it in half again. Now it is 1 foot long.
>>> Grab both ends and tie the first loop of a square knot. That's
>>> it. It stays stuck together in a much more compact and easy to
>>> manage form.
>>
>>> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="tying cables.jpg"
>>
>> That's not a square knot, that's an overhand knot.

It's the first part of a square knot. But I practice concise
wording, so instead of "the first part of a square knot" I will
use "an overhand knot".

> Does it only work for four-foot wires?

Plus or minus one foot.

> What about two meters?

That might require another fold. The number of folds depends on
the length of the wire. One sticking point is that the last fold
occasionally leads to a wire that is too short and stiff to make
an overhand knot. So your tied up wire might be a little longer
than desirable. Sometimes I go to the trouble of folding the wire
into one thirds instead of the last two folds. That is a hassle,
but it makes for slightly more compact storage, still without
needing ties on hand.

John Doe

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Jan 30, 2012, 6:25:01 AM1/30/12
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And by the way... You're welcome.

fungus

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On Jan 30, 12:11 pm, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
> fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:
> > Jasen Betts <jasen xnet.co.nz> wrote:
> >> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
> >>> Take a wire of whatever sort that is about 4 feet long. Fold
> >>> it in half. Fold it in half again. Now it is 1 foot long.
> >>> Grab both ends and tie the first loop of a square knot. That's
> >>> it. It stays stuck together in a much more compact and easy to
> >>> manage form.
>
> >>> Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="tying cables.jpg"
>
> >> That's not a square knot, that's an overhand knot.
>
> It's the first part of a square knot.

Nope. A square knot isn't tehnically a 'knot' at all, it's
a 'bend' - used to joint two pieces of rope together
(or two ends of the same rope if it's wrapped around
something).

A 'knot' is tied in the center of piece of rope, usually
as a stopper to prevent the rope from passing through
a hole though which it's been threaded.

The 'overhand knot' is the correct term for what's
being tied here.

The more you know...

PS: The 'sheet bend' gets the terminology right and
is also far more secure than a 'square knot'
(which a dangerous knot and often unties itself
- do not use except for tying parcels).



====

The thing that bothers me most about this post is
that some numpty genuinely thinks he's invented
something new - tying knots in a cable!

He's only one step away from patenting his brilliant
new idea...

(and the way the patent office is run these days they'd
probably accept it as a new invention).

John Doe

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Jan 30, 2012, 9:12:49 AM1/30/12
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Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen it before,
including people massively more experienced than this nym-shifting asshole.


fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:

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Pueblo Dancer

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Jan 30, 2012, 9:13:14 AM1/30/12
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:04:41 -0800 (PST), fungus <to...@artlum.com>
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The modern folk use Velcro wrap ties.

http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-Reusable-Self-Gripping-Inches-91140/dp/B001E1Y5O6

Inside a chassis, the old mil way works, and I like it better than
nylon ties, because they generally have bulging, sharp protrusions at the
tie point.

John Doe

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Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:

> The modern folk use Velcro wrap ties.

I am impressed by how a person's big ego can prevent him (or her)
from showing appreciation for a good idea.

An intelligent person who might not be able to develop a better
method, but who can at least recognize one when they see it
(someone who is not inhibited by his own big ego), might notice
the benefit of using a method that does not require tools or ties.

Take a wire of whatever sort that is about 4 feet long. Fold it in
half. Fold it in half again. Now it is 1 foot long. Grab both ends
and tie an overhand knot. That's it. It stays stuck together in a
much more compact and easy to manage form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uf_Fe9VKGbY#t=61s

That one is more to the point, but if it don't work...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf_Fe9VKGbY

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> http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-Reusable-Self-Gripping-Inches-91140/dp/B001E1Y5O6
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> Inside a chassis, the old mil way works, and I like it better than
> nylon ties, because they generally have bulging, sharp protrusions at the
> tie point.
>
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fungus

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On Jan 30, 3:12 pm, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
> Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen it before,
> including people massively more experienced than this nym-shifting asshole.
>

This just gets funnier and funnier...


fungus

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On Jan 30, 3:13 pm, Pueblo Dancer <Kach...@AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:
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> Inside a chassis, the old mil way works, and I like it better than
> nylon ties, because they generally have bulging, sharp protrusions at the
> tie point.

I've still got a big reel of waxy string somewhere...


I use it for tying up people who trespass on my lawn.

John Doe

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fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:

> I've still got a big reel of waxy string somewhere...
>
>
> I use it for tying up people who trespass on my lawn.

What for tying up your mother?

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John Doe

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fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:

> John Doe <j... usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>> Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen
>> it before, including people massively more experienced than
>> this nym-shifting asshole.
>>
>
> This just gets funnier and funnier...

It's not funny, it's common. You can see it regularly illustrated
on YouTube. A talented person uploads a video showing off their
talent. Someone comes along and disses that person. So you take a
look at the troll's channel. And of course they have nothing to
show of their own. So even if you weren't a nym-shifting troll, I
wouldn't bother asking for evidence that you have ever come up
with anything innovative of your own, because I know better.

You're a talentless nym-shifting troll who enjoys dissing others
who have ideas of their own.

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John Doe

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Why not simply bind wire without tools or ties.

An intelligent person might not be able to develop a better
method, but he (someone who is not inhibited by his own big ego)
should at least be able to recognize a better method when he sees
it, he should be able to see the benefit of using a simple and
effective method that does not require tools or ties.

Take a wire of whatever sort that is about 4 feet long. Fold it in
half. Fold it in half again. Now it is 1 foot long. Grab both ends
and tie an overhand knot. That's it. It stays stuck together in a
much more compact and easy to manage form. The same method can be
used for tying up the ends of wires that are currently being used
(plugged in at both ends) by doing as described above with the
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>
> It's not funny, it's common. You can see it regularly illustrated
> on YouTube. A talented person uploads a video showing off their
> talent. Someone comes along and disses that person. So you take a
> look at the troll's channel. And of course they have nothing to
> show of their own.
>

a) Tying a knot in a wire isn't "talent".

b) I've got a big drawer full of wires tied exactly like in
your method (sic). I've been doing it since I was little.
I started doing it all by myself, nobody showed me how.

c) It's so obvious I wouldn't raise an eyebrow if you told
me Neanderthals used to do it to keep their bundles
of tendons tidy (in fact I'd be more surprised if you told
me they *didn't* do it).


I guess this is what we get when we treat everybody
as special and give them gold stars just for attending
class.

John Doe

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Anything is possible, that's why we have disclosure. Show a
credible example of my method being used prior to this time.

A lying talentless nym-shifting troll...

fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:
nym-shifting
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On 30 Jan 2012 14:12:49 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen it before,
>including people massively more experienced than this nym-shifting asshole.

I was tying wiring harnesses to mil spec before you even knew what the
term 'bundle' meant.

You are fucking pathetic, and you remarks here have ZERO foundation in
truth, much less reality.

You are essentially an uncivil total asshole.

Usenet Love? Bullshit! An idiot like you needs a Usenet beat down.

You didn't "show me" a goddamned thing, asswipe. Grow the fuck up, you
pathetic little chump!

Pueblo Dancer

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On 28 Jan 2012 02:44:56 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

Doe Brain belched out this utter bullshit:

>
snipped link to absolutely pathetic video
>
>That one is more to the point, but if it don't work...

snip retarded link

You are a goddamned idiot.

YOU can dress out your pathetic chassis that way.

The professionals among us will continue dressing our wires in a
professional manner.

All you do is CREATE rat's nests.

100% pathetic. That's what it is.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 30 Jan 2012 14:12:49 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen it before,

I have. It is pathetic. YOU are pathetic. Your logic is lame. Your
capacity to grasp form fit and function hovers at NIL.

>including people massively more experienced than this nym-shifting asshole.

Go back to the kook group, you abso-fucking-lutley retarded twit.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 30 Jan 2012 15:21:49 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> It stays stuck together in a
>much more compact and easy to manage form.

No, it doesn't, and no it isn't. It makes wires more difficult to
'manage', you fucking idiot!

You are an utter fucking loon. Go back to the kook group.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 30 Jan 2012 15:29:41 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>
>It's not funny, it's common. You can see it regularly illustrated
>on YouTube. A talented person uploads a video showing off their
>talent. Someone comes along and disses that person.

Look, Dinguc Con... It was NOT a demonstration of ANY talent
what-so-fucking-ever!

Folks are not 'dissing' you. They are dissing your parents for letting
you grow to be so goddamned stupid. Go back to the kook group, boy!

Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Pueblo Dancer

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On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:12:08 -0800 (PST), fungus <to...@artlum.com>
wrote:
And the stupid fucktard is a top-posting Usenet retard as well.

FUCK OFF AND DIE, JOHNNY DOE BOY.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 30 Jan 2012 19:42:58 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Anything is possible, that's why we have disclosure. Show a
>credible example of my method being used prior to this time.

You are kidding, right?

Are you really trying to claim this is new, and that YOU thought of it?


Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!

STOP top posting, you retarded fuck. And go back to the kook group,
you are not welcome here, nor is your pathetic attempt to show folks that
your IQ exceeds 20 by a few points.

John Doe

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I wasn't talking about "folks" dissing me. I was talking about one
or two talentless trolls like this nutcase...

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On 30 Jan 2012 14:26:51 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:
>
>> The modern folk use Velcro wrap ties.
>
>I am impressed by how a person's big ego can prevent him (or her)
>from showing appreciation for a good idea.

You are both a goddamned idiot, and you are stupid.

And no, you are NOT "impressed". You do not have a high enough IQ to
know what the word means.

It had NOTHING to do with ANYONE's EGO, you retarded piece of shit.

It is what the industry uses, and that is why I suggested it. I did not
even look at YOUR CRAP. And when I actually did, I almost drowned in my
drink laughing at your utter stupidity.

It is NOT talent. You do NOT possess ANY skill.

Wire runs tied in pathetic, bulging knots is about as fucking retarded
as it gets.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 30 Jan 2012 15:16:23 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:
>
>> I've still got a big reel of waxy string somewhere...
>>
>>
>> I use it for tying up people who trespass on my lawn.
>
>What for tying up your mother?


You are beyond pathetic.

John Doe

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If this raving lunatic troll wasn't shown anything, then he should
be able to point to a prior disclosure. Finding numerous examples
of an overhand knot is easy enough.

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John Doe

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If this raving lunatic troll has seen my method before, then he
should be able to point to a credible prior disclosure. Finding
numerous examples of an overhand knot is easy enough. In fact, I
have been using this method for years, and it t works great.

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This raving lunatic troll needs to lay off of the hard drugs...

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This raving lunatic troll needs to lay off of the hard drugs...

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:00:22 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>I wasn't talking about "folks" dissing me. I was talking about one
>or two talentless trolls like this nutcase...
>
>Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:


OK, you top-posting Usenet retard, SHOW ME where I dissed you, you
stupid fuck!

I suggested velcro. That was NOT "dissing you", you pathetic fucking
pussy!

STOP Top-Posting, you fucking Usenet total retard.

You want respect? FOLLOW THE FUCKING RULES, BOY!

You are beyond PATHETIC!

You are the fucking troll in this group, if you refuse to post
properly. Top posting is retarded. You will be treated as such, EVERY
time you do it, DUMBFUCK!

John Doe

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This raving lunatic troll says he's drinking.
That much makes sense.

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:02:59 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>If this raving lunatic troll wasn't shown anything, then he should
>be able to point to a prior disclosure. Finding numerous examples
>of an overhand knot is easy enough.

It IS STUPID, YOU RETARDED TWIT!!!

I am NOT going to your pathetic link, and I am certainly not going to
hunt up your pathetic dress method. Get a clue, asswipe. You ain't all
that, and you never was, and you certainly never will be.

Get over the plain and simple fact that you are an utter loser, boy!

Go back to the kook group, and get the fuck OUT of here, and STOP being
a retarded top-posting Usenet twit! It really is that simple, boy.

The fact that you cut and paste your pathetic post text OVER and OVER
and OVER is further proof that you are nothing more than a dopey little
bitch in an attention seeking endeavor. You take "pathetic fool" to an
all new low.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:06:19 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>If

STOP TOP POSTING, YOU RETARDED FUCK!

Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:07:25 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>This raving lunatic troll needs to lay off of the hard drugs...

You certainly do. Go back to the kook group, and go bone up on Usenet
posting protocols, you absolute fucking retard.

Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:10:43 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

snipped retarded, top posted, cut and pasted like the troll fucktard
you are, dumb shit.

Since you have no actual intelligent response, FUCK OFF AND DIE, BOY!

John Doe

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The booze is going to this raving lunatic's ego.
I was replying to the other troll.

Don't like the top posting? Awww, poor baby.
Flailing won't help stop it. Try a little R E S P E C T.
But that would require manners, manners this drunk raving troll wasn't taught.

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:20:41 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>The booze is going to this raving lunatic's ego.
>I was replying to the other troll.
>
>Don't like the top posting? Awww, poor baby.
>Flailing won't help stop it. Try a little R E S P E C T.
>But that would require manners, manners this drunk raving troll wasn't taught.

A poster to this group RESPECTs the group's wishes and refrains from
being a top posting twit.

The fact that you are both clueless about it, and stubborn about
compliance proves that YOU are the fucking troll, jackass.

You are the one in this group with ego problems.

I'd say it is sad, but that is reserved for actual human beings.

John Doe

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Some adult should have taught this raving lunatic
drunken troll some manners.

Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:

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Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:23:58 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Why

WHY ARE YOU SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, ASSWIPE?

John Doe

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Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:

> WHY ARE YOU SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, ASSWIPE?

BECAUSE YOUR MOTHER APPROVES, CONTROL FREAK!

Drinking and being a control freak at the same time...
What a novel concept.

--










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Chiron

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On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:10:17 -0800, fungus wrote:

> On Jan 30, 3:12 pm, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>> Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen it
>> before, including people massively more experienced than this
>> nym-shifting asshole.
>>
>>
> This just gets funnier and funnier...

Holy cow... I'm in the middle of a flame war over whether tying wire into
an overhand know is an original, creative idea.

You know that theory that, if you had a bunch of monkeys typing randomly,
eventually they'd produce the works of Shakespeare? Well, Usenet has
proved that it's not true.



--
C is quirky, flawed, and an enormous success
-- Dennis M. Ritchie

Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:26:32 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Why

STOP SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, YOU RETARDED FUCK!!!

Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:28:53 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Some adult should have taught this raving lunatic
>drunken troll some manners.

Your mother should be jailed as a felon criminal for the heinous crime
a failing to flush you, you retarded piece of shit, the moment the
retarded SLUT shat you!

Your entire bloodline should be erased via vivisection!

Pueblo Dancer

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On 31 Jan 2012 03:31:58 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Why

STOP SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF SHIT!!!

Pueblo Dancer

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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:40:36 GMT, Chiron <chir...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:10:17 -0800, fungus wrote:
>
>> On Jan 30, 3:12 pm, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>>> Nobody I have showed my method to has said that they have seen it
>>> before, including people massively more experienced than this
>>> nym-shifting asshole.
>>>
>>>
>> This just gets funnier and funnier...
>
>Holy cow... I'm in the middle of a flame war over whether tying wire into
>an overhand know is an original, creative idea.
>
>You know that theory that, if you had a bunch of monkeys typing randomly,
>eventually they'd produce the works of Shakespeare? Well, Usenet has
>proved that it's not true.

Certainly not in the case of the pathetic dolt whom thinks his knotty
idea is an example of talent OR skill.

The only talent the dopey fuck has is the ability to show everyone
around him how utterly SIMPLE the clueless fuck really is.

P E Schoen

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Kook-Fighting! Love it!

Actually, the OP has proven itself even more clueless than Always Wrong
Missing Prong. All we need is Phil to chime in with some down under
profanity.

Paul

John Doe

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Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote:

> Certainly not in the case of the pathetic dolt

That's not what your mother says, tough guy.

> The only talent the dopey fuck

That's not what your mother calls me, tough guy.

> has is the ability to show everyone around him how utterly
> SIMPLE the clueless fuck really is.

While you pointlessly but incessantly act like a tough guy on the
Internet...

Simplicity can be a wonderful thing. My most favorite invention
thus far is simple as it gets. I think lots of simple things have
been overlooked by those striving for commercial success.

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scorpius

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>My

GO AWAY, you little 7 year old mentality CHILD!

GO AWAY, CHILD!

John Doe

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John Doe

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John Doe

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BarnCat

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John Doe

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Drunken troll

BarnCat <BarnCat keepingthevermindownatthebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

Nym-shifting
changes subject line
See also:
BarnCat <BarnCat keepingthevermindownatthebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Hellequin <Hellequin yourpipesaremypipes.org>
Numer0 Un0 <Numer0Un0 abettermanthanyou.org>
Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org>
scorpius <scorpius thewormholethatemptiesontheothersideoftheuniverse.org>
UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot thebestcountry.org> wrote:
...and counting

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beryl

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Jan 31, 2012, 1:58:43 AM1/31/12
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On 01/27/2012 06:44 PM, John Doe wrote:
>
> ... Fold it in half. Fold it in half again. Now it is

Kinked :(
That would be ugly hanging from the wall warts in my kitchen.
I straighten every fold and kink in mouse and keyboard cords. I also
flattened out all the creases in my pc's IDE ribbon cables.

John Doe

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Jan 31, 2012, 3:15:15 AM1/31/12
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beryl <fourl rd.net> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:

>> ... Fold it in half. Fold it in half again. Now it is
>
> Kinked :(

Not necessarily. Yes, you cannot have a symmetrical wind because
the cables are intertwined, but you still can bind them neatly.

> That would be ugly hanging from the wall warts in my kitchen.

Wall wart cables are the worst.

> I straighten every fold and kink in mouse and keyboard cords.

No keyboard or mouse cords here.

> I also flattened out all the creases in my pc's IDE ribbon
> cables.

I did that, when I had IDE cables. I used to remove every little
crease. And I shortened them. And removed unnecessary headers. I
was meticulous when it came to PC wiring. Currently, I am not as
involved with PC hardware stuff. But I still unwind wound power
cables. Before cordless, I always made sure that telephone handset
cords were correctly unwound. Usually noticed other peoples
telephone cords wound up.

I don't suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) as much
nowadays.

P E Schoen

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"John Doe" wrote in message
news:4f27a313$0$27035$c3e8da3$fdf4...@news.astraweb.com...

> I don't suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD)
> as much nowadays.

But still enough to annoy the hell out of most everyone here. Perhaps your
statement above explains much. Plus you seem to be getting what you crave: a
lot of attention. Even if it's bad, it's still attention. When a dog
constantly begs, paws, and barks for attention, even if you yell at him,
it's better than being ignored, so he is positively reinforced to continue
his annoying behavior. So, you sure are getting it here. But respect, heh,
not so much...

Bye!

Paul

fungus

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Jan 31, 2012, 4:57:56 AM1/31/12
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On Jan 30, 8:42 pm, John Doe <j...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
> Anything is possible, that's why we have disclosure. Show a
> credible example of my method being used prior to this time.
>

This is either the most brilliant troll ever or
we've found the greatest waste of oxygen
on the planet. I can't decide which.

Either way, it's not worth replying any more
but thanks for the laughs.

fungus

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On Jan 31, 10:57 am, fungus <to...@artlum.com> wrote:
>
> This is either the most brilliant troll ever or
> we've found the greatest waste of oxygen
> on the planet. I can't decide which.
>

Oh wait, I can decide. "John Doe" knows far too
much about Usenet to be the clueless numpty
he's pretending to be.

His editing of followups, etc., gives him away.


JW

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On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:54:00 -0800 Pueblo Dancer
<Kac...@AllHopiIsLost.org> wrote in Message id:
<hdpei71fu8jm1t86f...@4ax.com>:

>On 31 Jan 2012 03:26:32 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Why
>
> STOP SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, YOU RETARDED FUCK!!!

His Breidbart Index is more than likely over 20 by now, why don't you
report him to Astraweb instead of raving at him like the nutter that you
are?

MrTallyman

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On 31 Jan 2012 08:15:15 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>
>I did that, when I had IDE cables. I used to remove every little
>crease. And I shortened them. And removed unnecessary headers.


You are a true and complete idiot, if you cut headers off IDE cables.

MassiveProng

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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:58:31 -0500, "P E Schoen" <pa...@peschoen.com>
wrote:
The idiot won't get it. You have been placed onto the "poster with too
much ego" shelf by the OCD retard.

If the little bastard has an age that conforms to what society refers
to as "adult", then he should match it with actual mature behavior.

Currently, he is a pathetic, immature, top-posting, group disrupting
SPAM troll.

If he is an adult aged person, his father should take him out back and
shoot the retarded fuck.

MassiveProng

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On 28 Jan 2012 02:44:56 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>I developed

It is fucking pathetic, and you take 5 seconds longer to actually
perform the move than any normal person would take. Your video shows you
to be a dopey, poor dexterity fucktard.

The fact that you were to much of a pussy to accept comments on it is a
tell as well.

You know most of the comments would match mine, right?

Go back to the kook group, boy.

John Doe

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Jan 31, 2012, 10:35:01 AM1/31/12
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fungus <tooby artlum.com> wrote:

> John Doe <j... usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>> Anything is possible, that's why we have disclosure. Show a
>> credible example of my method being used prior to this time.
>>
>
> This is either the most brilliant troll ever or we've

The voices in your head?

Either you're posting from Spain, or you are using a proxy. Could
your problem have something to do with prejudice?

> found the greatest waste of oxygen on the planet. I can't decide
> which.

Just another something you don't know. Disclosure is the ordinary
way you stake claim to an idea/method/whatever. It's common
knowledge.

> Either way, it's not worth replying any more

IOW... You are running off to play with your imaginary kill file
friend, until it eludes you again.

> but thanks for the laughs.

Anytime. I don't nym-shift, so you know what to expect.

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Some netcop wannabe

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John Doe

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"P E Schoen" <paul peschoen.com> wrote:

> "John Doe" wrote

>> I don't suffer from obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) as much
>> nowadays.
>
> But still enough to annoy the hell out of most everyone here.

I don't nym-shift, so you don't have to be annoyed unless you want
to be annoyed.

> Perhaps your statement above explains much. Plus you seem to be
> getting what you crave: a lot of attention.

Nobody forces anybody else to do anything on UseNet. Your mother
should have taught you self-control.

> Even if it's bad, it's still attention.

Most of it coming from one of this group's most active
nym-shifting trolls.

> When a dog constantly begs, paws, and barks for attention, even
> if you yell at him,

I enthusiastically treat barking dogs as if they are friends. It's
simple psychology that works wonders on ordinary dogs.

> it's better than being ignored, so he is positively reinforced
> to continue his annoying behavior.

Apparently you don't know anything about handling dogs, either.

> So, you sure are getting it here. But respect, heh, not so
> much...

In fact, there are lot of old people in here who apparently have
never seen my method. The silence from them says a lot of good
stuff (me knowing that the method is a good one). But a troll
doesn't see it from my perspective.

> Bye!

Until the next time you feel like trolling...

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> Paul
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John Doe

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I didn't say that I cut headers off of IDE cables,
you raving lunatic troll.

MrTallyman <MrTallyman BananaCountersRUs.org> wrote:

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nym-shifting
See also:
BarnCat <BarnCat keepingthevermindownatthebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
Hellequin <Hellequin yourpipesaremypipes.org>
MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
MrTallyman <MrTallyman BananaCountersRUs.org>
Numer0 Un0 <Numer0Un0 abettermanthanyou.org>
Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org>
scorpius <scorpius thewormholethatemptiesontheothersideoftheuniverse.org>
TheKraken <ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths yup.org> wrote:
UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot thebestcountry.org> wrote:
...maybe dozens more

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MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>> I developed
>
> It is fucking pathetic,

A raving lunatic nym-shifting troll is entitled to his opinion.

> and you take 5 seconds longer to actually perform the move than
> any normal person would take.

So it's even better than I thought. I've been using it for years,
but I'll have to work on my speed...

> Your video shows you to be a dopey, poor dexterity fucktard.

I can juggle three balls!

I'm not as coordinated as a drummer, but probably a lot more
coordinated than any raving lunatic nym-shifting troll on UseNet.
And here we have another example of a troll dissing somebody
without having anything to show for himself.

> The fact that you were to much of a pussy to accept comments
> on it is a tell as well.

Actually, comments aren't disabled. Maybe YouTube globally
disables the comments of raving lunatic nym-shifting trolls.

> You know most of the comments would match mine, right?

Yes, if most of the comments ARE yours. But you can't parade
around YouTube as dozens of different users like you do here on
UseNet. What is your YouTube ID? Show us how coordinated you are.
My crystal ball says you are too chicken to answer that.

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>
> Go back to the kook group, boy.
>
>

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Chiron

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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:19:13 +0000, John Doe wrote:

<snip>

Look, John Doe, your idea is not original. The reason that no one is
able to find any prior description of the idea is simple: The people to
whom it would be news, haven't yet learned how to read. Kids usually
learn how to tie a knot before they learn how to read - or at least,
before they are able to readily use Usenet.

Your idea is nothing more or less than tying something into an overhand
knot. If this is not the simplest of knots, it is certainly close to it;
I know of none simpler.

Coming here to tell people to tie wire into a knot is something like
suggesting that a light shines much brighter when connected to some sort
of power supply. I doubt you'll find any prior descriptions of this
idea, either. It's not because my idea is so novel that no one else has
thought of it. It's because it's so obvious no one has seen any need to
state it.

If I came here and presented such a simple-minded idea, people would not
be impressed. If I kept insisting that the idea was novel, and that no
one could show where someone else had the idea, they'd become impatient.
Kind of like what happened with you.

Now we're at the point of mutual insults. It is only a matter of time,
according to Godwin's Law, before someone makes a comparison to Hitler or
Nazis.

All this makes me wonder - what's in it for you to do this? If you're
just trolling, well, OK, you're trying to amuse yourself. But if you're
actually serious...

--
All's well that ends.

John Doe

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Chiron <chiron613 gmail.com> wrote:

> Look, John Doe, your idea is not original.

Apparently it is.

> The people to whom it would be news, haven't yet learned how to
> read.

I bet that would include your mother.

> Kids usually learn how to tie a knot before they learn how to
> read

There are plenty of overhand knot diagrams on the Internet.

> Your idea is nothing more or less than tying something into an
> overhand knot.

There are lots of overhand knot diagrams on the Internet.

> If this is not the simplest of knots, it is certainly close to
> it; I know of none simpler.

My method is not just an overhand knot. But that's only half of
the equation. The other half is how useful the method is. It's
useful to practically everybody in the world.

> Coming here to tell people to tie wire into a knot

A new kind of knot.

> is something like suggesting that a light shines much brighter
> when connected to some sort of power supply.

Then why hasn't anybody seen it? If your conclusion is "because it
doesn't work", well, you can believe whatever you want to believe,
and I will continue using it like I have for several years.

> I doubt you'll find any prior descriptions of this idea, either.

That's a distinct possibility, and it leads to be conclusion that
my method probably is novel.

> It's not because my idea is so novel

It's because you are acting like a moron.

> If I came here and presented such a simple-minded idea,

My method is not simpleminded, it's just simple. Your pride won't
let you appreciate a simple idea, because you think you're above
it all. That's what we thought before September 11, 2001, when 19
box knife carrying knuckle draggers hijacked some planes and
killed 3000 of our people with them. You can't see the simple
because the complex is in your way.

> people would not be impressed.

Speaking of... Have you ever invented anything or done anything
intellectual that you can show to prove that you are some sort of
an intellectual judge? I'm not talking about your mental
masturbation here on UseNet. Anything substantial? Anything ever?
Or are you just a mouthy critic? Talk is cheap.

> If I kept insisting that the idea was novel,

I haven't been insisting that the idea is novel, liar. But in
fact, there are lots of very old people in here who have not seen
my method. To me, that suggests that it is in fact novel. You
might think it means that the method is useless, but I know better
since I have been using it for years.

> Now we're at the point of mutual insults.

I call it "trolling". At best you are a worthless critic who has
never done anything inventive in your life. Otherwise, care to
show us what you have done that anyone else took note of? Anything
at all? And I'm not talking about your back and forth mental
masturbation here on UseNet.

> All this makes me wonder - what's in it for you to do this?

Because I feel like it. Same reason you are a troll.

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> If you're
> just trolling, well, OK, you're trying to amuse yourself. But if you're
> actually serious...
>
> --
> All's well that ends.
>

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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:27:17 +0000, John Doe wrote:

>
>> The people to whom it would be news, haven't yet learned how to read.
>
> I bet that would include your mother.
>

This was uncalled for. Nowhere have I treated you rudely or with
anything approaching disrespect. I insist on being treated with
respect. I have a killfile and I know how to use it. There's always
room for one more in there.

>> Coming here to tell people to tie wire into a knot
>
> A new kind of knot.

What is "new" about this knot? Surely not the physical configuration of
the material being tied into a knot. An overhand knot is the same,
whether done with thread, rope, wire, or other length of flexible
material. So apparently your "innovation" is what? To tie a knot in
wire as opposed to rope? Or to fold the wire before tying?

>> is something like suggesting that a light shines much brighter when
>> connected to some sort of power supply.
>
> Then why hasn't anybody seen it? If your conclusion is "because it
> doesn't work", well, you can believe whatever you want to believe, and I
> will continue using it like I have for several years.

Oh, by all means, continue to use your invention. Heck, maybe you can
even get it patented.

But how do you figure I believe it won't work? It's obvious that it
*will* work, because any idiot can see that tying a knot into a length of
wire (or rope, string, etc.) will cause the length to be shortened a
bit. This is nothing new. This is nothing worth commenting about. This
is so obvious that we do it all the time without even thinking about it.
>
>> I doubt you'll find any prior descriptions of this idea, either.
>
> That's a distinct possibility, and it leads to be conclusion that my
> method probably is novel.

Umm... I was referring to my bright idea concerning the improvement in
function of a light, when connected to some sort of power supply. So if
your method is novel, so is mine. However, I doubt whether anyone would
consider either of our methods innovative.

>
>> It's not because my idea is so novel
>
> It's because you are acting like a moron.

In what way am I acting like a moron? I suspect that the only stupid
thing I'm doing is trying to engage in a reasonable discussion with
someone who is disinclined to engage in a reasonable discussion.

>> If I came here and presented such a simple-minded idea,
>
> My method is not simpleminded, it's just simple. Your pride won't let
> you appreciate a simple idea, because you think you're above it all.
> That's what we thought before September 11, 2001, when 19 box knife
> carrying knuckle draggers hijacked some planes and killed 3000 of our
> people with them. You can't see the simple because the complex is in
> your way.

So you are under the impression that you know what I think? Remarkable.
Let me assure you, you haven't the slightest idea how I think. It's not
pride. It's not that I think I'm "above it all." Nothing I have said or
done has in any way suggested either possibility.

I disagree with you. That does not automatically make me stupid, nor
does it automatically make you smart. My guess is that no one is as dumb
as you think they are, nor as smart as you think you are. This is a
guess - I don't know what you think, any more than you know what I
think. However, it seems clear that you are claiming to have come up
with a clever idea, and that anyone who disagrees with your estimation is
too stupid to understand it.

>
>> people would not be impressed.
>
> Speaking of... Have you ever invented anything or done anything
> intellectual that you can show to prove that you are some sort of an
> intellectual judge? I'm not talking about your mental masturbation here
> on UseNet. Anything substantial? Anything ever? Or are you just a mouthy
> critic? Talk is cheap.

Certainly I have. I wrote a database program for the retirement accounts
department of a savings and loan. I've done a few other things besides
that, but this should suffice. I'm quite a clever fellow, actually...

But that's not really the point. The fact that someone may never have
invented anything in his whole life, doesn't imply that he is not capable
of assessing whether some idea is innovative or original.

>> If I kept insisting that the idea was novel,
>
> I haven't been insisting that the idea is novel, liar. But in fact,

But you have. You did it in a comment above; and you do it again in your
next comment. And in previous posts.

> there are lots of very old people in here who have not seen my method.
> To me, that suggests that it is in fact novel. You might think it means
> that the method is useless, but I know better since I have been using it
> for years.

Nowhere did I ever say that the idea was *useless*. All I said was that
it wasn't clever or innovative or original.

I've seen your method and used it for decades. I've used it since I was
about 5 or 6 years old. Of course, back then I didn't use it with wires,
I used it with string or rope. I didn't start to use it with wire until
I was around 12 or so and got interested in electronics. That was a
long, long time ago. I'm one of those "old people" you keep talking
about.

And you know, now that I think of it, I believe I've seen this idea
before. I believe it was in my Boy Scout's handbook, in the section on
knots (where else?). There was the sheepshank knot, which is used to
shorten lengths of rope. And as I recall there was something about
doubled lengths tied in an overhand knot. But I could be wrong about
that, and I don't have a copy of the handbook around, so I don't insist
on that.

>
>> Now we're at the point of mutual insults.
>
> I call it "trolling". At best you are a worthless critic who has never
> done anything inventive in your life. Otherwise, care to show us what
> you have done that anyone else took note of? Anything at all? And I'm
> not talking about your back and forth mental masturbation here on
> UseNet.
>
Yes, yes, you're repeating yourself now. Mental masturbation on Usenet,
show us what you've done, blah-blah. See above. You have no idea what
I've done in my life. Not a clue. Just because I disagree with you,
doesn't mean I'm as dumb as you. Now, the fact that I *argue* with you
may indicate that I'm stupid.

>> All this makes me wonder - what's in it for you to do this?
>
> Because I feel like it. Same reason you are a troll.

Actually, I'm not a troll by any reasonable definition of the term. I
*disagree* with you, and you don't like that, but that doesn't make me a
troll. I have consistently treated you respectfully, while you have not
returned the favor. I have avoided the use of inflammatory rhetoric and
tried to express my ideas succinctly, accurately, and without insulting
you or anyone else. I have remained on topic without resorting to ad
hominem arguments, fallacious reasoning, or other histrionics.

In the meantime, you have freely abused me, insulted my mother and me,
called me names, used fallacious reasoning, and otherwise behaved in a
manner consistent with the definition of "troll." So compare our
respective behaviors with the definition of troll, and see who comes
closer.

Anyway, enough. Talk nice, or I'll plonk you and never learn any more of
your wonderful gems of wisdom.

Good luck.


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Everyone wants results, but no one is willing to do what it takes to get
them.
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On 31 Jan 2012 15:55:03 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>I didn't say that I cut headers off of IDE cables,
>you raving lunatic troll.
>
>MrTallyman <MrTallyman BananaCountersRUs.org> wrote:
>
>changes subject line
>nym-shifting
>See also:
>BarnCat <BarnCat keepingthevermindownatthebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>Hellequin <Hellequin yourpipesaremypipes.org>
>MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>MrTallyman <MrTallyman BananaCountersRUs.org>
>Numer0 Un0 <Numer0Un0 abettermanthanyou.org>
>Pueblo Dancer <Kachina AllHopiIsLost.org>
>scorpius <scorpius thewormholethatemptiesontheothersideoftheuniverse.org>
>TheKraken <ReachUpandSuckYouDowntotheDepths yup.org> wrote:
>UltimatePatriot <UltimatePatriot thebestcountry.org> wrote:
>...maybe dozens more

At least a *hundred* more. Michael Terrell keeps a list of Nymbecile's nyms.

John Doe

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An incessant liar.

Chiron <chiron613 gmail.com> wrote:

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Michael A. Terrell

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P E Schoen wrote:
>
> Kook-Fighting! Love it!
>
> Actually, the OP has proven itself even more clueless than Always Wrong
> Missing Prong. All we need is Phil to chime in with some down under
> profanity.


You do know that 'Three trolls fighting' is one sign of the
Apocalypse, don't you?


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 15:35:01 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Anytime. I don't nym-shift, so you know what to expect.
>

Utter stupidity with every post you submit.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 15:52:23 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Nobody forces anybody else to do anything on UseNet. Your mother
>should have taught you self-control.

Nobody forces you to make absolutely retarded, meaningless posts, yet
you insist on doing so. The word is Usenet, idiot.

Your RETARDED, CRIMINAL mother should be jailed for failing to flush
you, the moment the stupid slut shat you.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 15:52:23 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>
>In fact, there are lot of old people in here who apparently have
>never seen my method.

You are beyond full of shit. Stop dumping your stupid shit in the
group, you immature fuckhead.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 15:52:23 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Until the next time you feel like trolling...

Said the idiot who just spent over a day SPAM trolling these groups
with his utter stupidity that has MNOTHING to do with the group topics AT
ALL.

You are a goddamned idiot. Your ISP and your lame News service
provider are going to be more than a bit unhappy with the level of utter
stupidity you flaunt under their login.

Your access days are numbered.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 16:19:13 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>> Your video shows you to be a dopey, poor dexterity fucktard.
>
>I can juggle three balls!

But you do not even own TWO, because if you did, you would be man
enough to stop spewing your utter horseshit in these newsgroups, where
everyone who acts like you do gets the treatment you are getting. So, I
just gave you a clue. Lets see if you have the balls to actually be a
man, and STOP SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, ASSWIPE!

NONE of us are trolls, asshole. YOU are the troll.

Now knock it off, and get the fuck out.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 16:19:13 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> What is your YouTube ID? Show us how coordinated you are.
>My crystal ball says you are too chicken to answer that.

I do not post retarded stupidity on Youtube, you pathetic fuck.

I would love to post a video of me strapping you to a table, and
performing a complete vivisection on you. Sorry, chump, but yes, you
ARE too stupid, and you WILL have to go look that one up, boy.

Now THAT video would get some views! Especially by those that have
endured your utter stupidity thus far.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 22:27:17 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Apparently it is.

If you believe that stupidity, you should seek professional mental
health assistance.

It is as old as toilet paper.

You are as stupid as toilet paper, prior to use.

That means that used toilet paper has more on the ball than you do.

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 22:27:17 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>My method is not just an overhand knot. But that's only half of
>the equation. The other half is how useful the method is. It's
>useful to practically everybody in the world.

NO. Coiling and velcro wraps are useful.

Need more wire out? Pull another coil free.

Your method is lame.

Mainly because it is abso-fucking-lutey inflexible. Just like a
retarded Usenet poster who goes by the retarded nym "John Doe".

If you EVER had ANY experience in a manufacturing environment, you
would have enough COMMON SENSE to know WHY it is a failure to make a
choice to dress your lines like this.

It really is that simple. You are an inexperienced twit. PERIOD.

It isn't EGO or disrespect, idiot. It is a FACT! YOUR BRAIN IS WEAK.
VERY fucking weak. What are you 15 years old, boy? Are your pant
hanging down past your asscrack, like a gang boy retard? You sure act
just as fucking dumb as they do.

MassiveProng

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Jan 31, 2012, 9:41:00 PM1/31/12
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On 31 Jan 2012 22:27:17 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>Speaking of... Have you ever invented anything or done anything
>intellectual

You call that CRAP you posted an invention?!!!

You call that CRAP you posted "intellectual"?!!!

You ARE an UTTER FUCKING LOON, BOY! Go back to the kook group!

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 22:27:17 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>I'm not talking about your mental
>masturbation here on UseNet.

Those responding to you ARE talking about YOUR mental masturbation,
idiot!

MassiveProng

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On 31 Jan 2012 22:27:17 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> Otherwise, care to
>show us what you have done that anyone else took note of?


We took NOTE of your "idea". You just didn't like the NOTE we took,
because it defined you as the stupid fucktard that you are.

Now fuck off and die, boy. You are beyond clueless.

John Doe

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MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>> MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

>>> Your video shows you to be a dopey, poor dexterity fucktard.

>> What is your YouTube ID? Show us how coordinated you are. My
>> crystal ball says you are too chicken to answer that.
>
> I do not post retarded stupidity on Youtube

That is difficult to follow...

Anyway... You're all talk. But I knew that.

--











> you pathetic fuck.
>
> I would love to post a video of me strapping you to a table, and
> performing a complete vivisection on you. Sorry, chump, but yes, you
> ARE too stupid, and you WILL have to go look that one up, boy.
>
> Now THAT video would get some views! Especially by those that have
> endured your utter stupidity thus far.
>
>

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> From: MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.basics
> Subject: Re: Simple way to bind wires, without ties
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John Doe

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Jan 31, 2012, 9:59:37 PM1/31/12
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Replying is no fun when you are so obviously a major troll. And,
apparently someone else is keeping a record of your nym-shifting.

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> From: MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.basics
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John Doe

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Jan 31, 2012, 10:05:14 PM1/31/12
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Please use one of your other aliases every time you reply.
Thanks.

MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

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> From: MassiveProng <MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org>
> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.basics,free.UseNet
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> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:44:07 -0800
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John Larkin

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You keep repeating that image. That's sick in so many ways.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Bart!

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Jan 31, 2012, 10:21:39 PM1/31/12
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On 01 Feb 2012 02:55:14 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>An

STOP SPAMMING THESE GROUPS, you goddamned, spamming, fucking Usenet
abusing, retarded FUCK!

beryl

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Jan 31, 2012, 10:30:04 PM1/31/12
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On 01/31/2012 06:52 PM, John Doe wrote:
> MassiveProng<MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>
>> John Doe<jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>>> MassiveProng<MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>
>>>> Your video shows you to be a dopey, poor dexterity fucktard.
>
>>> What is your YouTube ID? Show us how coordinated you are. My
>>> crystal ball says you are too chicken to answer that.
>>
>> I do not post retarded stupidity on Youtube
>
> That is difficult to follow...
>
> Anyway... You're all talk. But I knew that.

He has to weigh in on EVERYthing. Would be an asset if he really were
AlwaysWrong but, often as not, he's right. Worthless.

MassiveProng

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On 01 Feb 2012 02:55:14 GMT, John Doe <jd...@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

>An


Complaint forwarded to ab...@astraweb.com

I hope you lose your account, and I hope you paid a lot for it, and I
hope they do not refund you. That is what you deserve.

MassiveProng

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Jan 31, 2012, 10:43:01 PM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:30:04 -0800, beryl <fo...@rd.net> wrote:

>On 01/31/2012 06:52 PM, John Doe wrote:
>> MassiveProng<MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>>
>>> John Doe<jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>>>> MassiveProng<MassiveProng thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Your video shows you to be a dopey, poor dexterity fucktard.
>>
>>>> What is your YouTube ID? Show us how coordinated you are. My
>>>> crystal ball says you are too chicken to answer that.
>>>
>>> I do not post retarded stupidity on Youtube
>>
>> That is difficult to follow...
>>
>> Anyway... You're all talk. But I knew that.
>
>He has to weigh in on EVERYthing.

No, I do not, asshole. I post in less than 20 percent of the threads
in this group. This thread, was after it ran several days.

You are nothing more than a mouthy little bitch, mad at folks who
actually have a life.

> Would be an asset

As if a retarded fuck like you even had the aptitude to make ANY valid
assessment about ANYTHING at all.

> if he really were
>AlwaysWrong but, often as not, he's right.

One of the few things you have ever stated that approaches correctness.

> Worthless.

Good sig. It fits you well, and rings true as well... about you.

John Larkin

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Jan 31, 2012, 11:11:47 PM1/31/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:30:04 -0800, beryl <fo...@rd.net> wrote:

Uh, when?

>Worthless.

We can agree on that!

Chiron

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Jan 31, 2012, 11:22:25 PM1/31/12
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:28:01 +0000, John Doe wrote:

> An incessant liar.
>

Not so. However, since you insist on being rude, I am putting you into
my killfile. There are lots of other assholes in there to keep you
company. You can't say I didn't give you the opportunity to interact
like an adult. You chose to remain puerile. Your choice.

BTW, when you don't have a whole lot to say, it is simple good manners to
snip out the large masses of text that tend to accumulate in an exchange
of messages. This requires almost no effort to do, and is a thoughtful
thing to do for all the other readers - some of whom don't participate in
idiotic exchanges like I did.

Good luck with your new idea. If you keep trying to get people to admire
it, you're going to have a lot of disappointment in life.

--
In my experience, if you have to keep the lavatory door shut by extending
your left leg, it's modern architecture.
-- Nancy Banks Smith

Chiron

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Jan 31, 2012, 11:28:44 PM1/31/12
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You do know that if complaints had any effect, the entire Usenet would
have lost their accounts years ago? Just sayin'



--
Opened for inspection.

beryl

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On 01/31/2012 07:43 PM, MassiveProng wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:30:04 -0800, beryl<fo...@rd.net> wrote:
> ...
>> if he really were
>> AlwaysWrong but, often as not, he's right.
>
> One of the few things you have ever stated that approaches correctness.

See that? You're right!

> ...
>> Worthless.
>
> Good sig. It fits you well, and rings true as well... about you.

You're thinking of "invaluable". It's a tricky one, I know, but it means
valuable.

life imitates life

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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:22:25 GMT, Chiron <chir...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:28:01 +0000, John Doe wrote:
>
>> An incessant liar.
>>
>
>Not so. However, since you insist on being rude, I am putting you into
>my killfile. There are lots of other assholes in there to keep you
>company. You can't say I didn't give you the opportunity to interact
>like an adult. You chose to remain puerile. Your choice.
>
>BTW, when you don't have a whole lot to say, it is simple good manners to
>snip out the large masses of text that tend to accumulate in an exchange
>of messages. This requires almost no effort to do, and is a thoughtful
>thing to do for all the other readers - some of whom don't participate in
>idiotic exchanges like I did.
>
>Good luck with your new idea. If you keep trying to get people to admire
>it, you're going to have a lot of disappointment in life.



Yes, speaking to him as you would a child is the correct manner.

beryl

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Feb 1, 2012, 12:23:05 AM2/1/12
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On 01/31/2012 08:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:30:04 -0800, beryl<fo...@rd.net> wrote:
>...
>> He has to weigh in on EVERYthing. Would be an asset if he really were
>> AlwaysWrong but, often as not, he's right.
>
> Uh, when?

For instance, he just confirmed that often as not he's right.

Chiron

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Feb 1, 2012, 1:32:45 AM2/1/12
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:14:02 -0800, life imitates life wrote:

<snip>
>
> Yes, speaking to him as you would a child is the correct manner.

Better yet, not speaking to him at all. At least a child is often
willing to learn something. John Doe appears unwilling to even admit
there is anything left for him to learn. A legend in his own mind...


--
Quit worrying about your health. It'll go away.
-- Robert Orben
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