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Jim Thompson

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Dec 30, 2012, 4:08:29 PM12/30/12
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Does this comparator exist....

Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?

I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)

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Phil Hobbs

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Dec 30, 2012, 4:23:50 PM12/30/12
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On 12/30/2012 4:08 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
> Does this comparator exist....
>
> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>
> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
>
How about a TL431? ;)

If you want something faster, there's the MCP65R41T.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Jim Thompson

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Dec 30, 2012, 4:29:03 PM12/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:23:50 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 12/30/2012 4:08 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> Does this comparator exist....
>>
>> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
>> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
>> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>>
>> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
>> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>How about a TL431? ;)
>
>If you want something faster, there's the MCP65R41T.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Nope. I would have to add stuff to make that work.

I need a comparator, with a couple of volts of common-mode range,
ideally with an adjustable difference between + and - inputs at the
switching point, but I can live with something fixed at between 300mV
and 500mV.

Seriously! A Joerg part ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Martin Riddle

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Dec 30, 2012, 4:49:31 PM12/30/12
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message news:n1b1e8hd6s1h598j9...@4ax.com...
> Does this comparator exist....
>
> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>
> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
> --

Can you do anything with this window comparator?
<http://cds.linear.com/docs/Datasheet/1042fa.pdf>

Cheers


Jim Thompson

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Dec 30, 2012, 5:04:17 PM12/30/12
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Right concept, but I need differential inputs, basically switch
when...

Vin1 > Vin2 + delta

Both Vin1 and Vin2 can move

Tim Wescott

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Dec 30, 2012, 5:09:16 PM12/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:08:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

> Does this comparator exist....
>
> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>
> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson

Not a Joerg part, because if it did find one he'd complain about it being
"boutique".

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Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

TTman

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Dec 30, 2012, 5:21:21 PM12/30/12
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>>>
>>> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
>>> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
>>> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>>>
>>> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
>>> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>>>
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>
> Right concept, but I need differential inputs, basically switch
> when...
>
> Vin1 > Vin2 + delta
>
> Both Vin1 and Vin2 can move
>
>

RS485 receivers might do the trick... but no variable delta.... delta is
around 500mV.... ?
Maxim do a range...


Jim Thompson

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Dec 30, 2012, 5:28:25 PM12/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:09:16 -0600, Tim Wescott
<t...@seemywebsite.please> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:08:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
>> Does this comparator exist....
>>
>> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
>> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
>> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>>
>> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
>> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>
>Not a Joerg part, because if it did find one he'd complain about it being
>"boutique".

Sno-o-o-o-ort, ROTFLMAO >:-}

Jim Thompson

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Dec 30, 2012, 5:42:36 PM12/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:21:21 -0000, "TTman" <pcw1...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
Good idea. I'll check 'em out. Thanks!

Michael A. Terrell

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Dec 30, 2012, 6:18:38 PM12/30/12
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Tim Wescott wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:08:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
>
> ? Does this comparator exist....
> ?
> ? Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
> ? when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
> ? either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
> ?
> ? I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
> ? small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
> ?
> ? ...Jim Thompson
>
> Not a Joerg part, because if it did find one he'd complain about it being
> "boutique".


Yeah, but he considers a 555 a boutique part.

John Larkin

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Dec 30, 2012, 6:19:29 PM12/30/12
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:23:50 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 12/30/2012 4:08 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> Does this comparator exist....
>>
>> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
>> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
>> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>>
>> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
>> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
>>
>How about a TL431? ;)
>
>If you want something faster, there's the MCP65R41T.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

Lots of LVDS-to-CMOS receivers have some built-in offset, ca 100 mV. All the
ones that we've tested behave like good r-r comparators. Cheap and fast.


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Fred

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Jan 3, 2013, 12:49:15 AM1/3/13
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"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-Th...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message
news:n1b1e8hd6s1h598j9...@4ax.com...
> Does this comparator exist....
>
> Has the usual two inputs, inverting and non-inverting, BUT it switches
> when the DIFFERENCE between the two inputs is some reference value,
> either fixed/built-in, or adjustable by an extra pin?
>
> I know I could construct such a thing, but I'm looking for something
> small, minimum pins, etc., i.e. a Joerg part ;-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson

I don't know of a part like that. The simplest solution I can think
of is a diode and resistor added to the front end of an ordinary
comparator(assuming your signals are not hi-Z).
Art


Artemus

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Jan 3, 2013, 12:53:02 AM1/3/13
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"Fred" <bo...@invalid.com> wrote in message news:kc3653$vdl$1...@dont-email.me...
Damn. I wasn't paying attention and replied from a different account
and "Fred" probably isn't going to make it thru your filters.
This should.
Art


WoolyBully

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Jan 3, 2013, 1:20:23 AM1/3/13
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No reason Fred should be dead. Damnit, Janet!

Fuckin' filtertards.
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