Load panel terminology: stab?
Moi
than 150 amps on one stab".
What's a "stab"?
keit...@gmail.com
The male (knife) blade thingie that the female part of the breaker
plugs (stabs) onto.
Martin Riddle
"Moi" <m...@moimoimoi.net> wrote in message
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The individual 'slot'.
Cheers
Jamie
The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
DJ Delorie
"Martin Riddle" <marti...@verizon.net> writes:
> The individual 'slot'.
Is it one slot, or a pair of slots sharing the metal tab?
Michael A. Terrell
Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
krw
Yes.
Jamie
> Jamie wrote:
>
>>Moi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
>>>than 150 amps on one stab".
>>>
>>>What's a "stab"?
>>>
>>
>> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>
>
>
> Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
>
>
OHHHHH< I forgot 1 "S"
I must of been thinking of using it for the word
"SHIT" head, I knew you would be drooling all over my post..
Why don't you go back to your closet and stay quiet.
Good for nothing puke.
Parasitic parasite. Malignant one at that.
krw
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>Jamie wrote:
>>
>> Moi wrote:
>>
>> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
>> > than 150 amps on one stab".
>> >
>> > What's a "stab"?
>> >
>> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>
>
> Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
wrong unless you're in love.
...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
PeterD
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Jamie wrote:
>>
>> Moi wrote:
>>
>> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
>> > than 150 amps on one stab".
>> >
>> > What's a "stab"?
>> >
>> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>
>
> Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
Well it could be a bare assed bus bar...
Jamie
Please don't let "Michael A. Terrell" see that.
After reading his replies of an error he claimed, I made, I did think
It was an error until a rethought about it..
Normally I would use BUSS and not BUS how ever, BUS is correct.
And for you jerky "Michael A. Terrell"
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4134633.html
Please tell the editor of this patent, they have miss spelt it
After all, M.A.T. you do know everything there is.
Jamie
For any one that really wants to know.. Don't take it from me.
Even though I've been in the business for years.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4134633.html
--
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"
DJ Delorie
krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> writes:
> >Is it one slot, or a pair of slots sharing the metal tab?
>
> Yes.
I should know better than to be vague.
Is it the space one circuit breaker takes up?
Is it the metal tab that two adjacent (end-to-end, not side-to-side)
breakers share?
Is it the space that those two breakers take up?
Jamie
Michael A. Terrell
Yet there are ads on Google for 'Buss Bar' suppliers.
Michael A. Terrell
Yawn. Wipe it off your face and read what you wrote:
> >> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
> Parasitic parasite. Malignant one at that.
Yes, yet you won't go away. You continue to post crap, then complain
when people point it out.
Michael A. Terrell
Come on. You know it needs a coat of No-Ox. :)
DJ Delorie
Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_v...@charter.net> writes:
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4134633.html
Ok, that's clear. The metal tab is the stab, it connects to two
breakers.
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
>
[snip].
>
> The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
> wrong unless you're in love.
>
> ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
Whatever you do, don't grab the bus bear. They can get pretty mean.
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Martin Riddle
"DJ Delorie" <d...@delorie.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin Riddle" <marti...@verizon.net> writes:
>> The individual 'slot'.
>
> Is it one slot, or a pair of slots sharing the metal tab?
Stab-Lok
<http://www.maintenanceresources.com/referencelibrary/ezine/eleccircbreak3.html>
Michael A. Terrell
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
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> krw wrote:
> >
> [snip].
> >
> > The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
> > wrong unless you're in love.
> >
> > ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
>
> Whatever you do, don't grab the bus bear. They can get pretty mean.
That pun was grisly. ;-)
krw
Of course it depends on where you are, but two adjacent breakers are
usually on opposite sides of the line so the answer is the same either
way.
krw
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>krw wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jamie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Moi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
>> >> > than 150 amps on one stab".
>> >> >
>> >> > What's a "stab"?
>> >> >
>> >> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>> >
>> >
>> > Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
>>
>> The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
>> wrong unless you're in love.
>>
>> ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
>
>
> Yet there are ads on Google for 'Buss Bar' suppliers.
"Buss" is short for "Bussman", which is a brand of such things, hence
a proper name. Yes, "Buss bar" is a proper name for one brand of bus
bars. "Buss" is kinda like "Xerox". With a lower case 'b', "buss" is
a kiss.
krw
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>krw wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jamie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Moi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
>> >> > than 150 amps on one stab".
>> >> >
>> >> > What's a "stab"?
>> >> >
>> >> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>> >
>> >
>> > Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
>>
>> The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
>> wrong unless you're in love.
>>
>> ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
>
>
> Come on. You know it needs a coat of No-Ox. :)
Only if Mr. Bussman's first name is Al. ;-)
DJ Delorie
On 10 Sep 2009 21:57:00 -0400, DJ Delorie <d...@delorie.com> wrote:
>Ok, that's clear. The metal tab is the stab, it connects to two
>breakers.
krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> writes:
> Of course it depends on where you are, but two adjacent breakers are
> usually on opposite sides of the line so the answer is the same either
> way.
If they're adjacent on the long edges, yes. If they're adjacent on
the short edges, no. That's why I did NOT say "adjacent" in my text,
it would be ambiguous.
In my panel, breakers are numbered like this:
breaker1 breaker2
breaker3 breaker4
breaker5 breaker6
breaker7 breaker8
Breakers 1 and 2 are on the same stab.
Breakers 3 and 4 are on the same stab.
Breakers 5 and 6 are on the same stab.
Breakers 7 and 8 are on the same stab.
Breakers 1, 2, 5, and 6 are on the "A" 120v line.
Breakers 3, 4, 7, and 8 are on the "B" 120v line.
Ah, here's a good photo:
http://www.qccomputer.com/ebay/100A20SpaceLoadCenter3.gif
So any double-wide ganged breaker will always pick up both lines,
giving 240v, and two breakers across from each other always pick up
the same line as they share a stab.
Michael A. Terrell
krw wrote:
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> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:34:34 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >krw wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Jamie wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Moi wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
> >> >> > than 150 amps on one stab".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What's a "stab"?
> >> >> >
> >> >> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
> >>
> >> The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
> >> wrong unless you're in love.
> >>
> >> ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
> >
> >
> > Come on. You know it needs a coat of No-Ox. :)
>
> Only if Mr. Bussman's first name is Al. ;-)
Aren't most new breaker boxes? I've had to replace several with both
aluminum bus bars, netral and ground bars after one or more failed. The
new breakers i see have a contact lube in them.
krw
>
>On 10 Sep 2009 21:57:00 -0400, DJ Delorie <d...@delorie.com> wrote:
>>Ok, that's clear. The metal tab is the stab, it connects to two
>>breakers.
>
>krw <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> writes:
>> Of course it depends on where you are, but two adjacent breakers are
>> usually on opposite sides of the line so the answer is the same either
>> way.
>
>If they're adjacent on the long edges, yes. If they're adjacent on
>the short edges, no. That's why I did NOT say "adjacent" in my text,
>it would be ambiguous.
>
>In my panel, breakers are numbered like this:
>
> breaker1 breaker2
> breaker3 breaker4
> breaker5 breaker6
> breaker7 breaker8
>
>Breakers 1 and 2 are on the same stab.
>Breakers 3 and 4 are on the same stab.
>Breakers 5 and 6 are on the same stab.
>Breakers 7 and 8 are on the same stab.
Right. I was considering 1 and 3 to be adjacent.
>Breakers 1, 2, 5, and 6 are on the "A" 120v line.
>Breakers 3, 4, 7, and 8 are on the "B" 120v line.
>
>Ah, here's a good photo:
>http://www.qccomputer.com/ebay/100A20SpaceLoadCenter3.gif
>
>So any double-wide ganged breaker will always pick up both lines,
>giving 240v, and two breakers across from each other always pick up
>the same line as they share a stab.
Yes. There was a lot of miscommunicatin' goin' on.
krw
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>krw wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:34:34 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >krw wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> >> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Jamie wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Moi wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not put more
>> >> >> > than 150 amps on one stab".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What's a "stab"?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
>> >>
>> >> The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
>> >> wrong unless you're in love.
>> >>
>> >> ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> > Come on. You know it needs a coat of No-Ox. :)
>>
>> Only if Mr. Bussman's first name is Al. ;-)
>
>
> Aren't most new breaker boxes?
No. At least all I've seen are copper. The one I bought recently was
nickel plated though.
>I've had to replace several with both
>aluminum bus bars, netral and ground bars after one or more failed. The
>new breakers i see have a contact lube in them.
None on mine.
Jamie
Jamie
Actually, to clarify that a bit, it's a non additional hardware
required bonding connection. In other words, It bonds to the electrical
bus/rail with out means of additional hardware. Like nuts,screws and
bolts etc..
Spring loaded fingers on the device or a straight blade being
inserted into a fixture that has the tension bonding terminals or
opposite.
Hence the word "STAB", to insert under pressure. Does not matter which
side has the actual tension bonding body. It's just the protruding
bonding object to be inserted, is the stab.
There are breakers that do not use STABS. They are electrically bonded
via screws, bolts and various other methods. These types require the bus
to be cold when doing so, unless you want to live dangerously. Most
Disconnect devices can provide you this kind of protection how ever,
it's been noted several times that these devices can fail, to fully
isolate the disconnected termination's. Caution should be exercised,
fully testing to verify a system is fully de energized and locked out
using you're own person locking system that you are in control of.
Rich Grise
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>> Moi wrote:
>>>
>>> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not
>>> > put more than 150 amps on one stab".
>>> >
>>> > What's a "stab"?
>>> >
>>> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>>
>> Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
>
> Well it could be a bare assed bus bar...
Don't pay any attention to Michael - he's just an angry old coot.
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:10:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>> Moi wrote:
>>>
>>> > It's used in a load panel sticker that says something like "do not
>>> > put more than 150 amps on one stab".
>>> >
>>> > What's a "stab"?
>>> >
>>> The fork finger that grabs the bus bare..
>>
>>
>> Its a BUS BAR or a BUSS BAR, dumbass.
>
> The correct spelling is "bus". "Buss" is a proper noun and "buss" is
> wrong unless you're in love.
>
> ...and if it doesn't grab the bus bare it won't work. ;-)
LOL! ;-)
Thanks!
Rich
ehsjr
And if you ever try to buss a bare bear in Buss's bar, that's
one too many.
(ducking)
Ed