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Aug 13, 2008, 4:38:54 PM8/13/08
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These aren't mathematically intensive, as they are part of a armchair
treasure hunt book where even the author has admitted he is not strong
in mathematics or cryptography.

There's a few of us that have been working on these puzzles for a
while without getting very far. Morse Code seems to have gotten us
somewhere, and it may be as complicated as it gets - but we're still
not clear on most of what is presented.

If you have a moment, please have a look and see if anything jumps out
at you. Two "puzzles" in particular are:
http://multimatter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vegas_Die:_Card_Suit_Puzzles
http://multimatter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vegas_Die:_Napkin_Puzzle

The napkin actually seems to relate to the story a little bit, but I
have yet to make sense of the numbers or what the blocks of blanks
could possibly even suggest if they were successfully filled in.

Douglas Eagleson

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Aug 14, 2008, 9:56:20 AM8/14/08
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On Aug 13, 1:38 pm, multimat...@gmail.com wrote:
> These aren't mathematically intensive, as they are part of a armchair
> treasure hunt book where even the author has admitted he is not strong
> in mathematics or cryptography.
>
> There's a few of us that have been working on these puzzles for a
> while without getting very far.  Morse Code seems to have gotten us
> somewhere, and it may be as complicated as it gets - but we're still
> not clear on most of what is presented.
>
> If you have a moment, please have a look and see if anything jumps out
> at you.  Two "puzzles" in particular are:http://multimatter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vegas_Die:_Card_Suit_Puzzleshttp://multimatter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vegas_Die:_Napkin_Puzzle

>
> The napkin actually seems to relate to the story a little bit, but I
> have yet to make sense of the numbers or what the blocks of blanks
> could possibly even suggest if they were successfully filled in.

A plot to a coordinate was given. Implying a sticky mess there.


/********crap and an answer in predicate***********/
♦ ♦ ♥ ♣ ♦ ♦ ♣ ♥ ♦ ♣ ♣ ♦ DDHCDDCHDCCD

1. D-duece
2. H-heavey- a face card
3. C-century card - 10

Once given a series of card display the hands given as a set.

DD-four
H-heavey(queen/king) 11 &12

making four cards out of thehand. NOw use the game as the type of
card to infer. So it is seven card.

DD-four again
C-jack

Making a four pair. The first hand was seven card. So the idea was to
make the hands play the game in a series like fashion(4,11,12,4,10)

Now infer the series:

(1,rational,3,1,rational)

derive the basic set given a rational set elements. Each hand is a
separate series.

a= sum(a-1)

a=o sum=0 Now abstract the series to the final set.

ath=2

1st= 0
second= 1
sum of these = 1

ath=3

(0,1,2)=3

A time to make the series is at hand. WHo can guess the correct ath?

is it ath = 1/3 imply (a-1/3)

1st= 0/3-1/3 = -1/3
2nd= 2/3-1/3 = 1/3
3rd 3/3-1/3 = 2/3

a=3 makes 2/3, a rational

continue the search for the correct ath to make the series.

is duece the answer?

1st= 0/2-1/2
2nd= 2/2-1/2= 1/2

2 = 1/2

bad choice so try the second card a duce a pair of twos, four.

1st 0/4-1/4 = -1/4
2nd 2/4-1/4 = 1/4

2 = 0 a first series element allowing the second series element to be
the heavy 11 & 12

3rd 11/4- 1/4= 10/4 = 2 1/2

12

12/4-1/4 == 11/4
2 1/2 + 11/4 = 2 3/4 + 2 1/2 = 5 1/4

So the theory fails at 5 1/4. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

SO guessing is a hard thing and it take time to figure out the main
man's method.

SO try this maybe- Allow the hand as a simple sum

(4,11,12,4,10) = 41 maybe

7

allow a postulated meaning to 41 and I guess SEVEN.

Making all cards.

Seven as the first hands divisor or is it supposed to always be a
prime number?HDCCD

11,2,10,10,2 = 35 nope not aprime but the guessing began as a card to
infer. It is hard subsitution work.

11 is aprime in both hands though.

maybe each hand is a message? (11,24)???

(11,30) for th e first hand

So I sit and wonder like you guys! A key to figuring is trial and
error though. So it take time to try ALOT.

Look for hints now! MAy they are hands of the kind to be displayed.
MAybe they are also not just poker.

The answeerlies in the chapter header the title are the answer in the
sense that they tell the meaning of the first title and predicate
alter it.

"gray memories" - thought
"sputtering torch"- color

Allowing the type of simple subsitution to be inferred. A first
symbol was the second's abstraction.

DDH CDD CHD CCD

S(S(x)) = x

A function of substitution applied to the D as aletter. Maybe this is
binary? D-0

S(S(0))= x implying the transfrom

A pair of colors

(00 00 1 1) meaning the transform causes th enext binary state.

Non D means a transform only,

00transform = ? what does 00 inbinary refer to. ZERO

BUt this all sort of get to complicated SO back to the drawing
board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I searched around like this for an hour and the simple evades maybe is
the type of thing to thing of. It is trivial, maybe.

A test in simplicity. A card a ->letter

given the card D what can be caused. So D was arbitrary as a
clarifier only the symbol was given as a square.

square as the first symbol. SO say "square" IMplying a square type of
transform.

How can a letter be placed shoudl be the act of transform. So what
does the first square letter mean, the seconds implication again!!!

square the same means to make the two.

heart

This stinks a dead end. Heart gives not solution.

A.

So I have given an answer in predicate. Allowing the story to be
told.

A.

A chase to the final why, a asymototic approach was to the allowable
topograghy.

A litteral thing as a sting was placed at the local.

The coordinates are basic plots on a chart. infer the grounds. I do
not know what was placed there.

Douglas Eagleson

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Aug 14, 2008, 10:17:05 AM8/14/08
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On Aug 14, 6:56 am, Douglas Eagleson <eaglesondoug...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Aug 13, 1:38 pm, multimat...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > These aren't mathematically intensive, as they are part of a armchair
> > treasure hunt book where even the author has admitted he is not strong
> > in mathematics or cryptography.
>
> > There's a few of us that have been working on these puzzles for a
> > while without getting very far.  Morse Code seems to have gotten us
> > somewhere, and it may be as complicated as it gets - but we're still
> > not clear on most of what is presented.
>
> > If you have a moment, please have a look and see if anything jumps out
> > at you.  Two "puzzles" in particular are:http://multimatter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vegas_Die:_Card_Suit_Puzz...

It is endurable as a puzzle. The geoemtric form was obvious and a
transform of 4pi allows a function in the coordinate. A center of the
earth point allows a place to be chosen.

It is a real hard puzzle. NO hints of the geometric function were
given in the titles.

Here is the approximate function; "as the asymtotic a."

A line drawn on the earth asymtotically to the PLACE a functional
change of the location was devised. A literal class of function must
be guessed again!

It is a hyperbolic function in asymtotic relation. literal S{S(x))=x
again.

s(coordinate,coordinate) = function(a)
function(a) = S(taangent)

x,y as places on a 4phi geometric topology allow the location's
inference.


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earth center * @
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it really is intriging

A coordinate in space as a earth
place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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