sci.cryonics activity
Kevin
I use to follow this newsgroup in the early/mid 90s. It seemed it was
much more active back then. Where did everyone go? Is there another
newsgroup or forum site that is more active, or perhaps a mailing
list? Also are there any newsletters out there. I use to get the Trans
Times newsletter back in the 90s and liked it. I actually met Art
Quaife of TransTime once at an interview, and we had a good discussion
about cryonics. It was kind of funny recently I saw an old In Search
Of where they covered cryonics and they interviewed a lot people
including Quaife.
If anyone knows an active online cryonics community please let me
know.
Thanks
Kevin
Keith F. Lynch
> Is there another newsgroup or forum site that is more active, or
> perhaps a mailing list?
There's a mailing list, Cryonet, which has been around for 20 years.
See http://cryonet.org/
It has averaged 6 messages per day over the past 20 years, 3 messages
per day over the past year.
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Dale Harris
"Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote in message
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> Kevin <kevin....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there another newsgroup or forum site that is more active, or
>> perhaps a mailing list?
>
> There's a mailing list, Cryonet, which has been around for 20 years.
> See http://cryonet.org/
>
> It has averaged 6 messages per day over the past 20 years, 3 messages
> per day over the past year.
> --
How about them autoposting their mailinglist to Usenet? Quite a few
mailinglists do this (i.e. comp.soft-sys.wxwindows).
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Dave D
> Kevin <kevin.c.cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is there another newsgroup or forum site that is more active, or
> > perhaps a mailing list?
>
> There's a mailing list, Cryonet, which has been around for 20 years.
>
> It has averaged 6 messages per day over the past 20 years, 3 messages
> per day over the past year.
> --
> Keith F. Lynch -http://keithlynch.net/
> Please seehttp://keithlynch.net/email.htmlbefore emailing me.
I read that list, but I've never been able to post on it. I think
it's some kind of home brew system. I wish they would move that group
to one of the main stream groups like Google or Yahoo.
Keith F. Lynch
>>> Is there another newsgroup or forum site that is more active, or
>>> perhaps a mailing list?
>> There's a mailing list, Cryonet, which has been around for 20 years.
>> See http://cryonet.org/
>> It has averaged 6 messages per day over the past 20 years, 3 messages
>> per day over the past year.
> I read that list, but I've never been able to post on it. I think
> it's some kind of home brew system. I wish they would move that
> group to one of the main stream groups like Google or Yahoo.
What happens when you try to post? Have you emailed the moderator?
A great many people, including me, refuse to subscribe to any Yahoo
group, for various reasons that I'll go into if you ask.
Dave D
> >>> Is there another newsgroup or forum site that is more active, or
> >>> perhaps a mailing list?
> >> There's a mailing list, Cryonet, which has been around for 20 years.
> >> It has averaged 6 messages per day over the past 20 years, 3 messages
> >> per day over the past year.
> > I read that list, but I've never been able to post on it. I think
> > it's some kind of home brew system. I wish they would move that
> > group to one of the main stream groups like Google or Yahoo.
>
> What happens when you try to post? Have you emailed the moderator?
>
> A great many people, including me, refuse to subscribe to any Yahoo
> group, for various reasons that I'll go into if you ask.
> --
> Please seehttp://keithlynch.net/email.htmlbefore emailing me.
Nothing happens. No errors, but the messages never show up. I tried
twice a year or two ago to fix it, I suppose by emailing the
moderator...don't really remember. I guess I'm vaguely curious why
anyone would oppose Yahoo groups, but not a home brew group.
Especially when the Yahoo/Google/etc. groups have such massively
better user interfaces. I can't think of any privacy issues that
don't exist with any group on the internet.
Dave D.
Keith F. Lynch
> I guess I'm vaguely curious why anyone would oppose Yahoo groups,
> but not a home brew group.
I refuse to subscribe to any Yahoo group, or click on any Yahoo URL,
for several reasons:
* They demand lots of personal information, and ask if they may sell
it to spammers.
* They pre-check "yes" on that question.
* If you select "no," they will eventually revert it to "yes."
* They attach ads to everything, including outgoing email sent by
their users. If someone wants to get free service in return for
being bombarded by ads, that's their business, but when uninvolved
third parties are also bombarded by their ads, that's crossing the
line. The ads are often made to appear as if the sender was saying
them himself. (Some people, unlike me, have even gone so far as to
block all email from any Yahoo address.)
* On several occasions they have, in violation of their own privacy
policy, outed pro-democracy people in China to the Communist Chinese
government, causing them to be sentenced to many years in prison.
In other words, Yahoo is an agent for a communist power, working
against the interests of the free world.
> Especially when the Yahoo/Google/etc. groups have such massively
> better user interfaces.
Better than what? I run three homebrew email lists -- one for a local
cryonics organization -- and they have much better user interfaces
than either Yahoo or Google Groups.
Google Groups is just a repackaging of Usenet. The search function is
useful, but trying to use Google Groups in lieu of a proper newsfeed
is painful and slow. I wish they'd stick to being an archive service.
> I can't think of any privacy issues that don't exist with any group
> on the internet.
On the lists I run:
* I block all HTML and attachments, ensuring that viruses, worms, and
other malware can't propagate. (The lists are intended for plain
text discussion only.)
* I block all email that isn't from a member of the appropriate
organization. Or rather it goes to me, so I can figure out if it's
from a members' email address that I didn't know about. But one
doesn't have to be a subscriber to the list to post to it, just a
member of the organization the list is for.
* I keep indexed web archives of the lists where members can find
them, but where outsiders, and search engines, cannot.
* Just in case outsiders or search engines do find the archives, I
munge every email address in a way that a human being can decode,
but an automated process, such as those used by spammers to harvest
addresses, cannot.
* There are no ads in the archives or in the messages. In fact, I
do my best to snip off any ads that are automatically appended to
messages by Yahoo, Juno, etc.
* I promise not to sell (or give away) any information to spammers or
others, ever. And, unlike Yahoo, I keep my word.
* As yet, after more than six years, not one spammer has succeeded in
getting even one email through to any of the lists.
It's been years since I've been active on the Cryonet mailing list
(which I have never run), but it has several intriguing features,
such as automatically trimming off HTML crud, instead of letting it
through as some lists do, or blocking the whole message as my lists
do. And such as tracking participants' reputations, as judged by other
participants, and blocking messages from senders whose reputations
are too low.