Really pure water
Nathalie Durant
do the separation job to hydrogen and oxygen unless there are
"contaminants" ions like Na+ and Cl-.
Now I hear that a microwave oven does not heat up really pure water
well. I was taught that a microwave oven takes advantage of the polar
nature of the water molecule which has a slightly positive region and a
slightly negative region. It seems that the teaching was wrong.
So, my question is does a charged comb placed near a flow of really pure
water bend the water column? I was told that the water column bends
because of the polar nature of the water molecule which has a slightly
positive region and a slightly negative region. If this assumption is
proven false in the explanation of microwave non-heating of really pure
water, the comb may not bend the column of really pure water? I am
confused. I don't have really pure water, so I can't do an experiment.
Can somebody help?
Mike Painter
"Nathalie Durant" <ndu...@potentium.ca> wrote in message
news:ndurant-0E89D6...@news.videotron.net...
> What I find strange about really pure water is that electrolysis doesn't
> do the separation job to hydrogen and oxygen unless there are
> "contaminants" ions like Na+ and Cl-.
>
> Now I hear that a microwave oven does not heat up really pure water
> well. I was taught that a microwave oven takes advantage of the polar
> nature of the water molecule which has a slightly positive region and a
> slightly negative region. It seems that the teaching was wrong.
Microwaves heat up water. if it is pure and still then bubbles will not form
and it will not "boil" but it will get to the boiling point.
Touching the container will allow the bubbles to form and the water may boil
so rapidly as to expell a lot on your hand.
> So, my question is does a charged comb placed near a flow of really pure
> water bend the water column? I was told that the water column bends
> because of the polar nature of the water molecule which has a slightly
> positive region and a slightly negative region. If this assumption is
> proven false in the explanation of microwave non-heating of really pure
> water, the comb may not bend the column of really pure water? I am
> confused. I don't have really pure water, so I can't do an experiment.
> Can somebody help?
Even if true the column would not likely be in a polarized state with all
the molecules lined up nice and neat so the comb would have no effect.
raconte
> do the separation job to hydrogen and oxygen unless there are
> "contaminants" ions like Na+ and Cl-.
pure water, just need more voltage
> Now I hear that a microwave oven does not heat up really pure water
> well. I was taught that a microwave oven takes advantage of the polar
> nature of the water molecule which has a slightly positive region and a
> slightly negative region. It seems that the teaching was wrong.
>
The magnetron in a microwave emits photons at a frequency of 2.45 GHz,
this wavelength is very good for adding kinetic energy to water
molecules. Now water may fail to BOIL in a microwave, but that's due
to the smooth surface of microwave safe containers (compared to steel
and aluminum pots) and the lack of convection currents. The imputies
you want here are dust and air bubbles to act as nucleation sites for
the boil bubbles -- drop a spoon in the hot water from the microwave
-- the steam is there.
> So, my question is does a charged comb placed near a flow of really pure
> water bend the water column? I was told that the water column bends
> because of the polar nature of the water molecule which has a slightly
> positive region and a slightly negative region. If this assumption is
> proven false in the explanation of microwave non-heating of really pure
> water, the comb may not bend the column of really pure water? I am
> confused. I don't have really pure water, so I can't do an experiment.
> Can somebody help?
Sure, water is still a good dipole. Here's a thought problem for you
-- define to yourself what really pure water is.
Fred Kasner
The water will boil if you heat it long enough. It may be superheated but you
will eventually get the vapor bubbles. What does not readily come out of the
water is the dissolved air. Try dropping some sugar into the water heated in
the microwave. You will see considerable air bubble formation.
The displacement of a water stream from a faucet by an electric field or a
magnetic field is the result of the water becoming charged by intimate
contact and contact potential differences as it flows past the pipes and
faucet. This is the same phenomenon as the charging of a piece of cloth by
rubbing it against some other fabric. It is commonly mislabeled as charging
by friction.
-- fka...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
hanson
news:a30ce47b.04040...@posting.google.com...
> Here's a thought problem for you
> -- define to yourself what really pure water is.
>
really pure water is organic and green,
and POTENTIALLY hazardous & toxic.
ahahaha.....ahahahanson
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
>"raconte" <rac...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:a30ce47b.04040...@posting.google.com...
>
>
>> Here's a thought problem for you
>>-- define to yourself what really pure water is.
>>
>>
>>
>Really devoted environmentalists believe that
>really pure water is organic and green,
>
Actually devoted environmentalists believe that really pure water is
clear and colorless
>and POTENTIALLY hazardous & toxic. ahahaha.....ahahahanson
>
>
Gee hanson ol girl, you really do need a date, maybe a fig.
hanson
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> >"raconte" <rac...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:a30ce47b.04040...@posting.google.com...
> >> Here's a thought problem for you
> >>-- define to yourself what really pure water is.
> >>
> >Really devoted environmentalists believe that
> >really pure water is organic and green,
> >ahahaha.....ahahahanson
>
> Actually devoted environmentalists believe that
> really pure water is clear and colorless
>
Gee, are you a twit or a git or just after my clit?
My post above was done in perfect accordance with the
edicts of your green icons and enviro role models who said:
"It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
believe is true ... You are what the media define you to be.
Greenpeace became a myth, and a myth-generating machine."
-- Paul Watson, co/founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepard
Josh, do we have to play the game again with and about
***** Quotes from environmental leaders. start: *****
ahahaha.....ahahahanson
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote
At 2:30 in the morning Sunday. Our dear needs a date. Help her. A
tragic case it is.
hanson
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
Another plea from Ms. Lonely for attention..
hanson
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> news:d9Kdc.21033$TS3....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> > >"raconte" <rac...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:a30ce47b.04040...@posting.google.com...
> > >> Here's a thought problem for you
> > >>-- define to yourself what really pure water is.
> > >>
> > hanson wrote
> > >Really devoted environmentalists believe that
> > >really pure water is organic and green,
> > >and POTENTIALLY hazardous & toxic.
> > >ahahaha.....ahahahanson
> >
> [Josh]
> > Actually devoted environmentalists believe that
> > really pure water is clear and colorless
> > Gee hanson ol girl, you really do need a date, maybe a fig.
> >
> [hanson]
> Gee, are you a twit or a git or just after my clit?
>
> My post above was done in perfect accordance with the
> edicts of your green icons and enviro role models who said:
>
> "It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
> believe is true ... You are what the media define you to be.
> Greenpeace became a myth, and a myth-generating machine."
> -- Paul Watson, co/founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepard
>
to play the game again with and about
***** Quotes from environmental leaders. start: *****
"It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people
believe is true ... You are what the media define you to be.
Greenpeace became a myth, and a myth-generating machine."
-- Paul Watson, co/founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepard
"If you don't know an answer, a fact, a statistic, then .... make it
up on the spot ... for the mass-media today ... the truth is irrelevant."
-- Paul Watson in Earthforce: An Earth Warrior's Guide to Strategy.
"A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate. But
that's the way we sell messages in this society. We use hype."
-- Dr. Jerry Franklin, Ecologist, Univ.of Washington
"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic
statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have.
Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being
effective and being honest."
- Stephen Schneider (Stanford professor who first sought fame as
a global cooler, but has now hit the big time as a global warmer)
"A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no
scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect."
-- Richard Benedict, an employee for the State Department working
on assignment for the Conservation Foundation
"We already have too much economic growth in the United States.
Economic growth in rich countries like ours is the disease, not the cure."
-- Paul Elrich, Stanford U biologist and Advisor to Vice President Gore
"We in the Green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which
the killing of a forest will be considered more contemptible and more
criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels."
-- Carl Amery, Green Party of West Germany
"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds,
I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds."
-- Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd
-----***** end: Quotes from environmental leaders *****-----
***** These quotes do make you realize that *****
= The green movement was always & only a sick machination=
= & a cover to get $$$ grants, permit charges & user fees to =
= feed green shits, be they politicians, consultants, activists or=
= regulators. Environmentalism is just a despicable evil green=
= $$$$$$ game without any redeeming value, nor any intent =
= to save anything. This 40 year old scam is now threatened =
= which is why all those leeching green turds are whining =
People are so disgusted with green turdism, so much that
== "Environment" was not mentioned at all in Pres. Bush's ==
== 2004 State of the Union, and NEITHER was any mention ==
== of it in the rebuttals by the DEMOCRATS. & now, RALPH ==
== NADER, 2000 Green Party Pres. Candidate has distanced ==
== himself from the green shits and runs as an Independent!==
All enviros, acticists, enablers, consultants or regulators may
bark in their green misanthropic and anti-patriotic hatred until
they are biliverdin-green all over, but
**** These enviro-creationist quotes will not go away. ****
The enviros should revere these quotes for they are their gospel.
Don't deny them. Be proud of them. They are, after all, the
Green equivalent of the Red manifesto or Hitler's "Mein Kampf".
The enviros green ilk's strenuous and pathetic efforts to burry them,
is reminiscent of the Nazis who claimed not to have known how evil
their leaders and their systems were and copping the same plea
of "just following orders".
Environmentalism is the same ideology. Environmentalism is just
the revived green version of social pathologies like BROWN with red
and green or RED with brown and green tints.
Face the facts green turds, nowadays the enviros do have problems,
a) because the people caught onto their game of green turdism, that
= Environmentalism is just a despicable, evil money (green) game, =
= without any redeeming value, nor any intent to save anything.This =
= scam has come to an end. Now, all the green shits are whining... =
Why should anyone be surprised? The green movement was always
and exclusively a machination and a cover to get grants, permit charges
& user fees for the green shits, be they consultants, activists or regulators.
...to boot, the green shits are recognized to be so bad and evil that
== One of the saddest legacy that the green turds produced ==
== is the pervasive trickle down effect aka OUTSOURCING ==
b) because it was doomed from the outset by top "executive" advice
from its Führers as shown above in "Quotes from environmental leaders".
Environmental turdism runs across and far, far beyond political and
ideological party lines. The right wing, conservatives, have an equal
if not bigger number of green turds amongst them, then the lefties do.
Turdism/Turdry begins when principally noble ideas are exploited for
personal gain. The perversion of the noble goals begins as soon as
the old adage to riches is introduced and applied:
********* "Find a need and fill it" *********
Modern, current turdism is so vile because the bastards, the green
shits expanded it successfully into
********* "Create a fear and feed off it". *********
Remember,
you can strike fear into some people for all the time.
you can even strike fear into all people for some time.
But you cannot strike fear into all people for all the time.
-------- Your green shit philosophy has failed --------
The green jig is up! Do you green turds know now why?
> ahahaha.....ahahahanson
>
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
Young lady, curb your tongue and you might get a data
hanson
"Josh Halpern" <j.ha...@incoming.verizon.net>
who unselfishly and persistently does help with his many
posts to expose the vile and evil tactics enviromentalists do
use in their pursuit of grabbing $$$ for their own enrichment
at the expense of hard working people and the environment.
Here Josh, has demonstrated this unholy green turd MO in
news:wAofc.31197$hd3....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
> hanson wrote:
>
> Young lady, curb your tongue and you might get a data
But, hanson did NOT write these lines above. Professor Haplern has
demonstrated with this the green turd tactics as recommended by/in
ahahahahaha........ahahahahanson
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
O hanson, the poor little girl with the potty mouth.
hanson
"Josh Halpern" <j.ha...@incoming.verizon.net>
who unselfishly and persistently does help with his many
posts to expose the vile and evil tactics enviromentalists do
use in their pursuit of grabbing $$$ for their own enrichment
at the expense of hard working people and the environment.
Here Josh, has demonstrated this unholy green turd MO in
news:wAofc.31197$hd3....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
> hanson wrote:
> O hanson, the poor little girl with the potty mouth.
But, hanson did NOT write these lines above. Professor Haplern has
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
Again repeating yourself young lady. Do you not know that animal
expectorations are brown? Why do you wish to drive young suitors away?
hanson
Professor Josh Halpern, you are a dirty old man exhibiting
urges with undertones of pedophilia and coprophilia since
you are suggesting hot dates with little girls and toilettes,
as can be seen in many previous posts of yours in the
following two threads: -- Re: Really pure water --
and in thread --- Re: The environmental curse (6) --
wherein the following lines of yours do instruct that...
> we are headed out for a hot date and poor ol Missy
> hanson sits at home washing her little potty mouth.
> O hanson, the poor little girl with the potty mouth.
> Young lady, curb your tongue and you might get a data.
> Have you ever thought about all the potential dates
> you put off with your potty mouth young miss?
> Gee hanson ol girl, you really do need a date, maybe a fig.
> Do you not know that animal expectorations are brown?
> Why do you wish to drive young suitors away?
> No gentleman would want to visit your potty house if you
> continue with the foul mouthism. [Josh you said "prey"!!!]
Josh, what do all your personal, unsavory fetishes have
to do with my post which is about unsavory practices in
environmentalism, such as I will repeat here below:
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
Again the hanson girl zips out a foolish reply. Better she should be
using an internet dating service to search her out a social life.
Bruce Sinclair
Put it in the killfile. Problem solved ... and those of us who have
wouldn't see the replies either :)
Thanks
Bruce
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It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to
think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone´s fault.
If it was Us, what did that make Me ? After all, I´m one of Us. I must be.
I´ve certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No-one ever thinks
of themselves as one of Them. We´re always one of Us. It´s Them that do
the bad things. <=> Terry Pratchett. Jingo.
hanson
news:5qkhc.31627$L31....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> Again the hanson girl zips out a foolish reply. Better she should be
> using an internet dating service to search her out a social life.
>
Prof. Josh Halpern continues to amend his posts with key
words: "prey"..."little girl"..."hot date"..."tongue"..."potty"
as can be seen in many previous posts of his in the
following two threads: -- Re: Really pure water --
and in thread --- Re: The environmental curse (6) --.
One wonders whether the following environmental edicts by
leaders of the green movement have generated the undertones
of pedophilia and coprophilia which Josh so repeatedly has
posted. Judge for yourself. Here is the enviro turd bible:
***** Quotes from environmental leaders. start: *****
"We in the Green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which
hanson
in message news:Utkhc.2460$cY5.2...@news02.tsnz.net...
> In article <5qkhc.31627$L31....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>, Josh Halpern
<j.ha...@incoming.verizon.net> wrote:
> >Again the hanson girl zips out a foolish reply. Better she should be
> >using an internet dating service to search her out a social life.
>
> Put it in the killfile. Problem solved ... and those of us who have
> wouldn't see the replies either :)
>
[hanson]
Bruce,....ahahahaha.......AAHAHhahahaha.........ahahahaha......
Yes, Josh should,....BUT, Josh can't!....Josh has become dependent.
Don't you see that the poor professor's mind has been infected by
enviro turdism so bad that he needs his daily fix, like fundies do require
to hear their daily prayers.......only that in Josh's case his salvation
and raison d'etre is to hear the edicts of the green bible to be posted
over and over again.
I am one of the few patient humanitarians who do fulfill the needs of
the victims of the greatest con that is/has been perpetrated onto
mankind: Environmentalism having been polluted by Enviro shit.
ahahahaha......ahahahahanson
PS: I spare you from my reposting of the green bible, since you
seem to have developed a rational resistance to it......ahahahahaha
Josh Halpern
hanson wrote:
But here you revert to less than an hour. We will have to perhaps again
administer translation therapy. Sad.
hanson
> But here you revert to less than an hour. We will have to
> Sad. [that you run out of new ideas.......ahahahaha...]
[--- and in the other thread Josh threatens me with:]
> Oh my hanson great improvement. Eight hours between my
> posting and your Pavlov response. Soon we will break you
> of your nasty habits, make you environmentally sound, neat,
> even human.
Threats!!!, byu Josh???....ahahahahaha....Josh, you have run
out of imagination and your posts have ceased long time ago
to convey anything enviro. Instead you have begged me to
repost the green bible again & again, using your very various,
stupid guises. Your social commentaries are always received
with great laughs but due to your brainwashing you haven't
noticed yet that all what matters is the reposting of the green
bible. However, from now on I will respond to your tormented,
phony responses only if they contain something environmental
and/or are at least entertaining. But, invariably I will always
administer to your real needs by reposting the green bible aka
---------- *Quotes from environmental leaders* --------.
Let me repeat to you, Josh, AFAIAC, these 2 lovely threads
|Re: Really pure water| and |Re: The environmental curse (6)|
are the perfect, eye catching vehicle for me to post & repost
the green bible aka **Quotes from environmental leaders**.
Josh, the green bible as posted in these two threads is aimed
mainly at new readers, for them to see green turdism, the real
face of environmentalism. You are the valued prop, Josh.
That you have a peculiar fetish about it is fine by me....enjoy it!
ahahaha....and hey, Josh: Thanks...ahahahaha....ahahahahaha
Again, let me make it easy for you, Josh, to fulfill your dream
as I let you alone determine the frequency of seeing a repost
of the green bible. Everytime you respond to a post that
contains the green bible a follow up of it will automatically be
reposted. That ought to relieve you of your anxieties for a fix.
I hope that with your help and continued response stimulation
this exposé of/about green turdism will continue for years.
From time to time the analysis portion therein may be updated.
Consider this to be a real ENVIRO FAQ, which you have helped to
develop & maintain...ahahahahaha....as automatically, upon any
response post of yours to it, the green bible and a ref to this post
will be posted again with a comment stating:
ref#: ....................
*** Prof. Josh Halpern has surreptitiously requested ***
******* a repost of the green bible. Here it is.*******
***** Quotes from environmental leaders. start: *****
"It doesn't matter what is true ... it only matters what people