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Timothy Sutter  
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 More options Nov 6 2012, 8:37 am
Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.physics.electromag, sci.math, sci.chem
From: Timothy Sutter <a202...@lycos.com->
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:32:39 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 6 2012 8:32 am
Subject: Re: Tim, does Google have a "locking mechanism" Re: your slip is showing...

> > if you just look at this thread;
> > [thread i just posted excerpts from]
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.chem/G_ts-y6KiBM/nz-IXX_Lr9UJ

the streamlined version, cuz aioe won't carry something so immense;

 if you just look at this thread;

 [thread i just posted excerpts from]

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.chem/G_ts-y6KiBM/nz-IXX_Lr9UJ

==

but this is how it was this morning, before anyone else gets to it...

as you will notice, -only- archi's psosts are flagged for abuse.

-only- archi is singled out and flagged...

all the rest are "sign in to reply"

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spin in physics with monopoles existing Chapt13.4.01 Particle Physics
table #897 New Physics #1017 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed  
25 posts by 8 authors in sci.chem

Sep 14
Archimedes Plutonium
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Sep 14

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

there is no "electron dot cloud"
there is a "probability density" which
is oftentimes portrayed -as- a 'cloud'
but that portrayal does -not- suggest that
the hydrogen  nucleus is surrounded by a
myriad of myriad of electrons.

-please- fix you .sig file.

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Sep 14
Archimedes Plutonium
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Sep 14
Archimedes Plutonium
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Timothy Sutter  Sign in to reply
Sep 14
Re: nonphysicists who open their mouths in physics Re: #1017 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

etc.

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Sep 14
Archimedes Plutonium
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Sep 14
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

- show quoted text -
the "electron cloud" -is- a descriptive -device-

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Sep 14
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> Timothy Sutter  wrote:

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Sep 14
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

no animals will be hurt during
the course of these next
several sentences.

Timothy Sutter  Sign in to reply
Sep 14
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

> and you pretty much know where the little box is.

or, like a bowling ball in a baseball stadium.

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Timothy Sutter  Sign in to reply
Sep 14
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

"classical mechanics" simply does not work as the 'best explanation'
when applied to teh behaviors of very small things, like electrons,
and, so-called "quantum mechanics" was developed to provide a more
correct explanation for phenomenon associated with
very small objects and light.

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Timothy Sutter  Sign in to reply
Sep 15
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

> and, the large objects which make up galaxies and stars
> and galaxie clusters are operating in a gravitational field
> and the electronic interactions are negligible and the chemical
> atomic forces are electronic and the gravitational effect is
> negligible and you have yet to show me how gravitational
> fields align in discrete energy levels and not
> a continuous spectrum.

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Sep 15
Archimedes Plutonium
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Sep 15
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>  Timothy Sutter wrote:

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Sep 15
Re: electrons don't look like anything as they cannot be seen

> you might like to look into molecular orbital theory
> and consider how atomic orbitals show an overlap
> when bonding occurs.

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Michael Moroney         Sign in to reply
Sep 15

Timothy Sutter <a202...@lycos.com-> writes:
>Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
>> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
>> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

My personal guess is that he encountered a diagram of the electron
probability density in a cheap high school chemistry book with primitive
printing techniques, where they represented high probability with lots of
dots close together and low density with few dots. Kind of like old B/W
newspaper photos made of dots, except newspaper photos use bigger/smaller
dots for dark/light and not more/fewer dots.  (I have seen such
chemistry books)

He just took the diagram (way) too literally.

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David Bostwick  Sign in to reply
Sep 17
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

Timothy Sutter <a202...@lycos.com-> wrote in
news:5053E507.4EEF@lycos.com-:

Tim, give up.  You will never persuade AP that he's wrong.  Don Quixote
will defeat the windmill first.

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Timothy Sutter  Sign in to reply
Sep 17
Re: the wave nature of Don Quixote

> >Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> >> whole entire Universe is just one big atom
> >> where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
> Timothy Sutter  writes:
> >there is no "electron dot cloud"
> >there is a "probability density" which
> >is oftentimes portrayed -as- a 'cloud'
> >but that portrayal does -not- suggest that
> >the hydrogen  nucleus is surrounded by a
> >myriad of myriad of electrons.
Michael Moroney wrote:
> Good luck convincing Archie of that.  He's been spewing that crap for
> nearly 20 years.

<...>

David Bostwick wrote:
> Timothy Sutter wrote
> Tim, give up.  You will never persuade AP that he's wrong.
> Don Quixote will defeat the windmill first.

i had no intention of chasing it around forever...

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Brian Salter-Duke       Sign in to reply
Sep 17
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:13:05 -0500,

David Bostwick <david.b...@chemistry.gatech.edu> wrote:
> Timothy Sutter <a202...@lycos.com-> wrote in
> news:5053E507.4EEF@lycos.com-:

> Tim, give up.  You will never persuade AP that he's wrong.  Don Quixote
> will defeat the windmill first.

Agreed, but as Pauli once remarked about someone else's ideas, AP is not
EVEN wrong!

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      Brian Salter-Duke          Melbourne, Australia
    My real address is b_duke(AT)bigpond(DOT)net(DOT)au
               Use this for reply or followup
  Collaborating with chemists in Melbourne and World-wide

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Salmon Egg      Sign in to reply
Sep 17
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

In article <GDN5s.1331$Wo3...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
 Brian Salter-Duke <b_d...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:

> Agreed, but as Pauli once remarked about someone else's ideas, AP is not
> EVEN wrong!

I miss Uncle Al.

--

Sam

Conservatives are against Darwinism but for natural selection.
Liberals are for Darwinism but totally against any selection.

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Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway   Sign in to reply
Sep 17
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

"Salmon Egg" <Salm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:SalmonEgg-7D4127.15455017092012@news60.forteinc.com...

In article <GDN5s.1331$Wo3...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,

Brian Salter-Duke <b_d...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:
> Agreed, but as Pauli once remarked about someone else's ideas, AP is not
> EVEN wrong!

I miss Uncle Al.

--

Sam

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Chiral Idiot!

Feel better now?
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Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

hanson  Sign in to reply
Sep 17
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

"Salmon Egg" <Salm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Brian Salter-Duke <b_d...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:

Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
>> Agreed, but as Pauli once remarked about someone
>> else's ideas, Archie-pooh is not EVEN wrong!

Sam wrote:
> I miss Uncle Al.

Why?

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David Bostwick  Sign in to reply
Sep 18
Re: mistake of not knowing ...

"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in news:k38pcv$a5d$1...@dont-email.me:
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Boy, this is like old home week.

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Timothy Sutter  Sign in to reply
Sep 19
Re: the wave nature of Don Quixote

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