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Timothy Sutter  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 7:48 pm
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalid.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:48:41 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 7:48 pm
Subject: topics in chemsitry
here's on e generalized educational website from
an organization called RCC "advances in chemical science"

this is a very wide ranging subject which addresses
a wide variety of interdsciplinary subjects and topics

quantum mechanics molecular biology evolutionary
 biology genetics dna chemistry cosmology etc.
are all fair game in a chemical discussion.

==========

http://www.rsc.org/Education/EiC/topics/Free_to_access_articles.asp

Another brick in the whorl
Cross-examining the scientists on the inside of advanced fingerprinting
research

The International Chemistry Olympiad
This summer Washington DC eagerly awaited the world's finest sixth
form chemists to compete in the 44th International Chemistry Olympiad

Concluding a cosmic chemical census
Scientists are preparing to say goodbye to Herschel,
the largest ever space telescope

Dyeing for a place in the sun
Can dye-sensitised solar cells compete with silicon and emerging
alternatives? Performance and flexibility allow business to design for
light

Jump-starting lectures
There is an emerging trend towards using pre-lecture activities
to support tertiary level learning: the options investigated

Rise of the molecular machines
Chemists are putting molecules to work
in ways only limited by our imagination

Unlocking video: 24/7 learning for the iPod generation
The capability to produce high quality video is now literally
 in the palm of your hand. Find out how video can be used to
enhance your teaching and support your students' learning....

The chemistry of pottery
Pottery vessels have been made for around 18,000 years. But how
 does clay extracted from the earth become a colourful pot,
and what's the chemistry behind the process?

Chemistry with lasers
The Lasers for Science Facility in Harwell, UK, lets chemists see
and manipulate chemical and biological systems. This research has
 a direct impact on our everyday lives.

Faster than a speeding bullet...
In 2014 a small team from the UK will dispatch a car to Africa with
the aim of it speeding across the desert at 1000 mph. We find out
how chemistry powers the car to success

What's in your strawberries?
Why are strawberries so irresistible? Do the strawberries you pick
 in the wild really taste nicer than shop-bought ones?

Thermoelectric materials: efficiencies found in nanocomposites
Thermoelectric materials can be assembled into mechanical structures
which can transform heat to electrical energy. They can be used
for heat harvesting and refrigeration.

Podcasting: support and enrich chemistry education
Podcasts are an easy and cheap way to provide supporting resources
to enhance student learning. Find out why you should join in and
prepare your own with this useful 'how to' guide...

Nitrous oxide: are you having a laugh?
Since its discovery, laughing gas has played its part in our
dental surgeries, operating theatres and - more controversially
- at our parties

Trouble in the periodic table
As chemists we see the periodic table as an icon but its design
continues to evolve and is the source of much debate

Protecting chemical innovations
Researchers can protect their chemical inventions from competitors
with patents but this is a long and complex process which needs expert
guidance

Enhancing teaching using tactile objects
Kinaesthetic learners learn by doing rather than by seeing and hearing.
Introducing objects to examine and discuss in class can enhance
the learning experience

Ruthenium compounds as anticancer agents
New ruthenium-based compounds with fewer and less severe side effects,
 could replace longstanding platinum-based anticancer drugs

2011

Research at ISIS
ISIS acts as a super-sensitive microscope. Researchers working at the
cutting edge of science use neutrons to find out where atoms are
inside materials and what they are doing

Teaching chemistry in 3D using crystal structure data
Fundamental topics such as stereochemistry are taught in 2 or 2.5 D
- the Cambridge Structural Database provides an interactive 3D solution

Did molybdenum control evolution on Earth?
Recent discoveries indicate that our atmosphere was not always oxygen
rich
- molybdenum could have been the limiting factor in the evolution of
life on earth

A healthy, wealthy, sustainable world
..won't happen without chemists. We need a new generation of young
 chemists to avoid becoming an undernourished, impoverished,
unsustainable world.

Biomimetics
The next generation of functional materials will need to include
aniostropic (directionally dependent) crystals. But how has nature
been the source of inspiration for these?

Symmetry of buckminsterfullerene
Both Euler's formula and Descartes' theorem can be used to show
how buckyballs are made from closed cages of carbon pentagons and
hexagons

Chemical bonding
A masterclass in teaching the topic of bonding,
basing chemical explanation on physical forces

Diamond Light Source: illuminating chemistry
Synchrotron light allows chemists to see within structures
and individual atoms, without disrupting samples

Four Curie centennial elements
The four Curie elements provide us with an interesting tour
of the bottom of the periodic table for the International Year of
Chemistry

Giving fossil fuels the chop
Axe Valley Biodiesel - a case study on partnership
between school, university and business

Really cheesy chemistry
Stilton, camembert, limburger and cheddar - why, and
how, does cheese come in such a variety of smells and tastes?

Entropy - a masterclass
The concept of entropy might seem abstract, but
can be illustrated by a statistical interpretation

2010

The curious story of toxic ice
In 1944 a fake article was submitted and published as a
scientific paper. In the context of How Science Works,
can a hoax have educational value?

Two-step bromine attack
An experiment for the classroom to show that bromine
adds to an alkene by two-step electrophilic addition

Iron ocean seeding
Carbon sequestration - the removal of carbon dioxide
from the atmosphere - is an active area of research

Single molecule sequencing
The first draft sequence of the human genome,
announced 10 years ago, was time-consuming and expensive

The importance of weak forces
London dispersion forces - instantaneous dipole-induced
dipole attractions - are extremely short ranged

Black paper
Flexible carbon nanotube paper is now available
for use in high-tech electronics

Look who discovered caesium
Although Robert Bunsen and Gustav Kirchhoff are often
credited with the discovery of caesium, this honour
belongs to Carl Setterberg

Mass spectrometry - the early days
1912, physicist Joseph John (J. J.) Thomson discovers mass spectrometry

A problem shared - the Singapore experience
Problem-based learning (PBL) gives students opportunities
for collaborative as well as self-directed learning

Five rings good, four rings bad
Fifty years ago steroid abuse among sportsmen and women
was a serious problem. Today, thanks to the skills of
analytical chemists, the sporting cheats rarely win

New challenges for photocatalysts
Titania catalysts are being used to keep hospital
surfaces clean and to produce hydrogen in solar cells

2009

Potato packaging
Chemists design new plastics from natural carbohydrates

Chemical tornadoes
An alternative and inspirational way to demonstrate
acid-base reactions and fluorescence and chemiluminescence

Sonochemistry - beyond synthesis
Sonochemistry, the use of sound energy to induce physical
or chemical changes within a medium, has a growing number
of applications in fields such as medicine and nanotechnology

Survival of the fittest
Examples of natural products produced by organisms and
plants to overcome competing species and predators
provide chemical evidence for Darwin's legacy of natural selection

What is entropy?
What's the best way to introduce to your students
this most misunderstood of thermodynamic properties?

Biofuels: the next generation
Chemists look to develop second-generation biofuels made
 from dead wood, algae and genetically-engineered microorganisms

Crop protection chemicals
By 2030, the world's population is expected to rise to over
eight billion - the need for safe and environmentally
friendly crop protection chemical has never been greater

Investigations get real
What real chemists do can be the basis of motivating
investigations and learning in school chemistry

2008

Radioactivity discovered
Centenary celebrations for the founding fathers of
radioactivity - Henri Becquerel and Ernest Rutherford.

The ambassadors
Undergraduate chemists get the opportunity to
teach as part of their degree course.

The power of NMR: in two and three dimensions
Over the past 30 years chemists have developed NMR experiments
 in two and three dimensions that enable them to solve the
structure of complex organic compounds

Multiple-choice tests - are they fit for purpose?
Of what value are multiple-choice tests in the
new GCSE Science specifications?

The power of NMR: the beginnings
Originally a curiosity of the quantum world, NMR is
now an essential tool for chemists, biochemists and clinicians

From waxes to riches
Supercritical carbon dioxide can be used to remove valuable
chemicals, including waxes, from plants, the most widely
available and cheap source of biomass in the world

George III, indigo and the blue ring test
Can urine test offer insight into George III's insanity?

Battery power
Chemical reactions to power a host of different cells and batteries

CF3SF5 - a 'super' greenhouse gas
Trifluoromethyl sulfur pentafluoride - a ...

read more »


 
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Timothy Sutter  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 8:01 pm
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalid.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:01:12 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> here's on e generalized educational website from
> an organization called RCC "advances in chemical science"
> this is a very wide ranging subject which addresses
> a wide variety of interdsciplinary subjects and topics
> quantum mechanics molecular biology evolutionary
>  biology genetics dna chemistry cosmology etc.
> are all fair game in a chemical discussion.

nothing i have posted in this place sci.chem
has been "off topic" in any manner.

i -am- a chemist and have a chemical viewpoint.

my cosmological worldview is a chemical one.

i have posted some duplicate messages here as of late

all of my posts are being anonymously
hidden in the gurgle archive.

no mention from anyone as to why they
are being hidden is ever given.

i realize that the gurgle archive is not
the only place these posts appear, but they ae housed
there for a long time and i have just as much right
to post here without interference as anyone else.

i will post reposts again if i see that
they are being hidden in the gurgle arhive.

i may flag some of those as "Repost"

it is not my interest to annoy people.

i think my posts are topical and relevant.

if anyone would like t tell me otherwise,
i may even liste to what they have to say.

but there is a comprehensive storyline here

and not one that constantly refers
to specific reaction sequences.

chemical engineering does not always refer to reaction
sequences as we saw lately with the person who was
having problems with oil in their compressed air.

that was not, stricly speaking a problem of
reaction mechanism but one of an engineering nature.

please excuse me as i carry out my feud
 with the mad post flagger at gurgle groups.

yes, i mention "God"

this is not at all uncommon even in the sciences.

Gregor Mendel was a christian monastic.

etc. etc . etc.

i will post some of my posts again, and again, and again.

i do -not- do so to raise people's ire.

i do so because i feel they have relevant information in them.

if ifeel like posting messages -about- "God"

i will do so, and if they are flagged atguglegroups

i will postthem again, and not feel that
i am being "abusive" in any manner.

there, i've given a brief explanation of my actions...

feel free to ignore my posts

feel free to confront me on any of them.

feel free to flag them as abusive on gurgle groups...

and i feel free to repost them if and when i so desire.

thank you.

====
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry
Subdisciplines
Chemistry is typically divided into several major sub-disciplines. There
are also several main cross-disciplinary and more specialized fields of
chemistry.[50]
Analytical chemistry is the analysis of material samples to gain an
understanding of their chemical composition and structure. Analytical
chemistry incorporates standardized experimental methods in chemistry.
These methods may be used in all subdisciplines of chemistry, excluding
purely theoretical chemistry.
Biochemistry is the study of the chemicals, chemical reactions and
chemical interactions that take place in living organisms. Biochemistry
and organic chemistry are closely related, as in medicinal chemistry or
neurochemistry. Biochemistry is also associated with molecular biology
and genetics.
Inorganic chemistry is the study of the properties and reactions of
inorganic compounds. The distinction between organic and inorganic
disciplines is not absolute and there is much overlap, most importantly
in the sub-discipline of organometallic chemistry.
Materials chemistry is the preparation, characterization, and
understanding of substances with a useful function. The field is a new
breadth of study in graduate programs, and it integrates elements from
all classical areas of chemistry with a focus on fundamental issues that
are unique to materials. Primary systems of study include the chemistry
of condensed phases (solids, liquids, polymers) and interfaces between
different phases.
Neurochemistry is the study of neurochemicals; including transmitters,
peptides, proteins, lipids, sugars, and nucleic acids; their
interactions, and the roles they play in forming, maintaining, and
modifying the nervous system.
Nuclear chemistry is the study of how subatomic particles come together
and make nuclei. Modern Transmutation is a large component of nuclear
chemistry, and the table of nuclides is an important result and tool for
this field.
Organic chemistry is the study of the structure, properties,
composition, mechanisms, and reactions of organic compounds. An organic
compound is defined as any compound based on a carbon skeleton.
Physical chemistry is the study of the physical and fundamental basis of
chemical systems and processes. In particular, the energetics and
dynamics of such systems and processes are of interest to physical
chemists. Important areas of study include chemical thermodynamics,
chemical kinetics, electrochemistry, statistical mechanics,
spectroscopy, and more recently, astrochemistry.[51] Physical chemistry
has large overlap with molecular physics. Physical chemistry involves
the use of infinitesimal calculus in deriving equations. It is usually
associated with quantum chemistry and theoretical chemistry. Physical
chemistry is a distinct discipline from chemical physics, but again,
there is very strong overlap.
Theoretical chemistry is the study of chemistry via fundamental
theoretical reasoning (usually within mathematics or physics). In
particular the application of quantum mechanics to chemistry is called
quantum chemistry. Since the end of the Second World War, the
development of computers has allowed a systematic development of
computational chemistry, which is the art of developing and applying
computer programs for solving chemical problems. Theoretical chemistry
has large overlap with (theoretical and experimental) condensed matter
physics and molecular physics.
Other disciplines within chemistry are traditionally grouped by the type
of matter being studied or the kind of study. These include inorganic
chemistry, the study of inorganic matter; organic chemistry, the study
of organic (carbon based) matter; biochemistry, the study of substances
found in biological organisms; physical chemistry, the study of chemical
processes using physical concepts such as thermodynamics and quantum
mechanics; and analytical chemistry, the analysis of material samples to
gain an understanding of their chemical composition and structure. Many
more specialized disciplines have emerged in recent years, e.g.
neurochemistry the chemical study of the nervous system (see
subdisciplines).
Other fields include agrochemistry, astrochemistry (and cosmochemistry),
atmospheric chemistry, chemical engineering, chemical biology,
chemo-informatics, electrochemistry, environmental chemistry,
femtochemistry, flavor chemistry, flow chemistry, geochemistry, green
chemistry, histochemistry, history of chemistry, hydrogenation
chemistry, immunochemistry, marine chemistry, materials science,
mathematical chemistry, mechanochemistry, medicinal chemistry, molecular
biology, molecular mechanics, nanotechnology, natural product chemistry,
oenology, organometallic chemistry, petrochemistry, pharmacology,
photochemistry, physical organic chemistry, phytochemistry, polymer
chemistry, radiochemistry, solid-state chemistry, sonochemistry,
supramolecular chemistry, surface chemistry, synthetic chemistry,
thermochemistry, and many others.

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Timothy Sutter  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 8:29 pm
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalid.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:29:56 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> i -am- a chemist and have a chemical viewpoint.
> my cosmological worldview is a chemical one.

i'v even managed to have work published in peer reviewed journals.

http://65.54.113.26/Author/20499163/timothy-p-g-sutter

==
"Kinetic and equilibrium studies on porphyrins, chlorins,
and isobacteriochlorins; basicities, zinc incorporation,
and acid catalyzed solution reactions in aqueous and nonaqueous
solutions,"   T.P.G. Sutter and P. Hambright,
Inorg. Chem., 1992, 31, 5089-5093.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ic00050a031

http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/toc.page?incoden=inocaj&indecade=0&...
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/inocaj/1992/31/i24/f-pdf/f_i...
==

==
"Mossbauer, magnetic susceptibility, radiolytic and photochemical
studies of europium and lutetium porphyrins," F.W. Oliver, C. Thomas,
E. Hoffman, D. Hill, T.P.G. Sutter, P.Hambright, S. Haye, A.N. Thorpe,
N. Quoc, A. Harriman, P. Neta, and S. Mosseri,
Inorg. Chim. Acta, 1991, 186, 119-124.

http://www.nist.gov/kinetics/neta/index.htm <== dead
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0020169300879402
224. Mössbauer, magnetic susceptibility, radiolytic and photochemical
studies of europium and lutetium porphyrins. F.W. Oliver, C. Thomas, E.
Hoffman,
D. Hill, T.P.G. Sutter, P. Hambright, S. Haye, A.N. Thorpe, N. Quoc, A.
Harriman,
P. Neta, and S. Mosseri. Inorg. Chim. Acta, 186, 119 (1991).
==

==
"Diamagnetic susceptibilities of porphyrins,"
T.P.G. Sutter, P. Hambright, A.N. Thorpe, and N. Quoc,
Inorg. Chim. Acta, 1992, 195, 131-132.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=5423525
==

==
"One-electron reduction and demetalation of copper porphyrins,"
M. Kumar, P. Neta, T.P.G. Sutter, and P. Hambright,
J. Phys. Chem., 1992, 96, 9571-9575.
Manmohan Kumar, P. Neta, T. P. G. Sutter, and P. Hambright
pp 9571 - 9575; DOI: 10.1021/j100202a091
http://pubs3.acs.org/acs/journals/toc.page?incoden=jpchax&indecade=&i...
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/j100202a091
==

==
"Steric and inductive effects on the basicity of porphyrins
and on the site of protonation of porphyrin dianions. Radiolytic
reduction of porphyrins and and metalloporphyrins to chlorins
and phlorins," T.P.G. Sutter, R. Rahimi, P. Hambright,
J.C. Bommer, M. Kumar, and P. Neta,
J. Chem. Soc., Faraday Trans., 1993, 89, 495-502.

241. Steric and inductive effects on the basicity of porphyrins and on
the site of protonation of porphyrin dianions. Radiolytic reduction of
porphyrins and metalloporphyrins to chlorins or phlorins. T.P.G. Sutter,
R. Rahimi, P. Hambright, J.C. Bommer, M. Kumar, and P. Neta,
J. Chem. Soc. Faraday Trans., 89, 495 (1993).
http://www.nist.gov/kinetics/neta/index.htm <==dead
http://www.uast.ac.ir/modules.php?name=treeview&op=viewnodepage&nid=1036
<==dead
http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/1993/FT/ft9938900495
==

==
"The effect of peripheral substituents on the kinetics of
zinc ion incorporation and acid catalyzed removal from
water soluble sulfonated porphyrins,"
T.P.G. Sutter and P.Hambright,
J. Coord. Chem., 1993, 30, 317-326.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3859250
==

==
"Aqueous Solution Acid Catalyzed Solvolysis Kinetics
of Zinc(II), Cobalt(II), Copper(II) and Nickel(II)
N-Methyl-Tetra(4-sulfonatophenyl) Porphyrins,
"R. Rahimi, T.P.G. Sutter and P. Hambright,
J. Coord. Chem., 1995, 34, 283-288
http://www.uast.ac.ir/modules.php?name=treeview&op=viewnodepage&nid=1036

http://www.iust.ac.ir/page.php?slct_pg_id=3690&sid=20&slc_lang=en

can't find a good url on this one, but rahimi has one.

yeah, he was iranian.

no, he wasn't a mad bomber as far as i could tell.

==

i realize this isn't like a million publications and
i'm not claiming to be anything more than a chemist.

i did go through that by the numbers.


 
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 8:59 pm
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalid.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:59:47 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> > i -am- a chemist and have a chemical viewpoint.
> > my cosmological worldview is a chemical one.
> i'v even managed to have work published in peer reviewed journals.
> http://65.54.113.26/Author/20499163/timothy-p-g-sutter

calling my posts "abusive" is a libel

so, gurgle is sort of like an accomplice to a libel.

and that's not just a matter of petty annoyances.


 
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalid.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:15:26 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> > > i -am- a chemist and have a chemical viewpoint.
> > > my cosmological worldview is a chemical one.
> > i'v even managed to have work published in peer reviewed journals.
> > http://65.54.113.26/Author/20499163/timothy-p-g-sutter
> calling my posts "abusive" is a libel
> so, gurgle is sort of like an accomplice to a libel.
> and that's not just a matter of petty annoyances.

i know the post flagger is a tiny nitwit

so, that doesn't bother me one little bit

i'm just saying, if you see duplicate posts,

and you wonder;

"why is he doing that?"

because i feel like it...


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:19:13 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:19 am
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
On 20/11/2012 01:01, Timothy Sutter wrote:

Good for them. You post complete garbage.

Unfortunately what you say is *NOT* true your garbage is cluttering up
Google archives along with the many copy watch, handbag spammers dross.

Now stop morphing to escape my kill file you demented fuckwit.

> feel free to ignore my posts

I will do.

--
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalid.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 04:41:40 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 4:41 am
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
here's on e generalized educational website from
an organization called RCC "advances in chemical science"

this is a very wide ranging subject which addresses
a wide variety of interdsciplinary subjects and topics

quantum mechanics molecular biology evolutionary
 biology genetics dna chemistry cosmology etc.
are all fair game in a chemical discussion.

==========

http://www.rsc.org/Education/EiC/topics/Free_to_access_articles.asp

Another brick in the whorl
Cross-examining the scientists on the inside of advanced fingerprinting
research

The International Chemistry Olympiad
This summer Washington DC eagerly awaited the world's finest sixth
form chemists to compete in the 44th International Chemistry Olympiad

Concluding a cosmic chemical census
Scientists are preparing to say goodbye to Herschel,
the largest ever space telescope

Dyeing for a place in the sun
Can dye-sensitised solar cells compete with silicon and emerging
alternatives? Performance and flexibility allow business to design for
light

Jump-starting lectures
There is an emerging trend towards using pre-lecture activities
to support tertiary level learning: the options investigated

Rise of the molecular machines
Chemists are putting molecules to work
in ways only limited by our imagination

Unlocking video: 24/7 learning for the iPod generation
The capability to produce high quality video is now literally
 in the palm of your hand. Find out how video can be used to
enhance your teaching and support your students' learning....

The chemistry of pottery
Pottery vessels have been made for around 18,000 years. But how
 does clay extracted from the earth become a colourful pot,
and what's the chemistry behind the process?

Chemistry with lasers
The Lasers for Science Facility in Harwell, UK, lets chemists see
and manipulate chemical and biological systems. This research has
 a direct impact on our everyday lives.

Faster than a speeding bullet...
In 2014 a small team from the UK will dispatch a car to Africa with
the aim of it speeding across the desert at 1000 mph. We find out
how chemistry powers the car to success

What's in your strawberries?
Why are strawberries so irresistible? Do the strawberries you pick
 in the wild really taste nicer than shop-bought ones?

Thermoelectric materials: efficiencies found in nanocomposites
Thermoelectric materials can be assembled into mechanical structures
which can transform heat to electrical energy. They can be used
for heat harvesting and refrigeration.

Podcasting: support and enrich chemistry education
Podcasts are an easy and cheap way to provide supporting resources
to enhance student learning. Find out why you should join in and
prepare your own with this useful 'how to' guide...

Nitrous oxide: are you having a laugh?
Since its discovery, laughing gas has played its part in our
dental surgeries, operating theatres and - more controversially
- at our parties

Trouble in the periodic table
As chemists we see the periodic table as an icon but its design
continues to evolve and is the source of much debate

Protecting chemical innovations
Researchers can protect their chemical inventions from competitors
with patents but this is a long and complex process which needs expert
guidance

Enhancing teaching using tactile objects
Kinaesthetic learners learn by doing rather than by seeing and hearing.
Introducing objects to examine and discuss in class can enhance
the learning experience

Ruthenium compounds as anticancer agents
New ruthenium-based compounds with fewer and less severe side effects,
 could replace longstanding platinum-based anticancer drugs

2011

Research at ISIS
ISIS acts as a super-sensitive microscope. Researchers working at the
cutting edge of science use neutrons to find out where atoms are
inside materials and what they are doing

Teaching chemistry in 3D using crystal structure data
Fundamental topics such as stereochemistry are taught in 2 or 2.5 D
- the Cambridge Structural Database provides an interactive 3D solution

Did molybdenum control evolution on Earth?
Recent discoveries indicate that our atmosphere was not always oxygen
rich
- molybdenum could have been the limiting factor in the evolution of
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:01:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 9:01 am
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

On Monday, November 19, 2012 6:59:30 PM UTC-7, Timothy Sutter wrote:
> > > i -am- a chemist and have a chemical viewpoint.
> > > my cosmological worldview is a chemical one.
> > i'v even managed to have work published in peer
> > reviewed journals.

> > http://65.54.113.26/Author/20499163/timothy-p-g-sutter

> calling my posts "abusive" is a libel

Calling your posts off topic spam in this newsgroup is truth.  You are violating posting guidelines for this newsgroup.  This is not your personal blog.  This newsgroup is for discussion of chemistry news.

If you accidentally actually talk about chemistry, *I* am not flagging them.  I didn't even bother when you posted over and over under the same title.  I could at least see if there was something interesting that had been posted by someone that was less of an "artist".

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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:19:09 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 9:19 am
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

dlzc wrote:
> Timothy Sutter wrote:
> > > > i -am- a chemist and have a chemical viewpoint.
> > > > my cosmological worldview is a chemical one.
> > > i'v even managed to have work published in peer
> > > reviewed journals.
> > > http://65.54.113.26/Author/20499163/timothy-p-g-sutter
> > calling my posts "abusive" is a libel
> Calling your posts off topic spam in this newsgroup is truth.

no, this would be your opinion.
chemistry is not your own personal topic.
topicallity is not defined by you nor
by people who happen to agree with you.

> You are violating posting guidelines for this newsgroup.  

show everyone these posting guidlies.

> This is not your personal blog.

show precisely how i am using this group as my personal "blog"

chemistry is not your own personal topic.
topicallity is not defined by you nor
by people who happen to agree with you.

> This newsgroup is for discussion of chemistry news.

my posts do discuss chemistry news.

> If you accidentally actually talk about chemistry, *I* am not flagging them.

from the google archive;

==
http://tinyurl.com/ctgtmv2
sci.chem
Chemistry and related sciences.
60436 members - 0 days ago
==

all of my recent posts have been directly
topical to chemistry and related sciences.

> I didn't even bother when you posted over and over under the same title.

chemistry is not your own personal topic.
topicallity is not defined by you nor
by people who happen to agree with you.

> I could at least see if there was something interesting
> that had been posted by someone that was less of an "artist".

chemistry is not your own personal topic.
topicallity is not defined by you nor
by people who happen to agree with you.

i suggest you draw a line where you feel comfortable

and stay on the other side.


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:20:19 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 11:20 am
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

lock your own mind up and try not to place
your little padlocks on anyone else.

> Unfortunately what you say is *NOT* true your garbage is cluttering up
> Google archives along with the many copy watch, handbag spammers dross.

if there was even the remotest chance that i could post
 too much for google to accomodate, i'm sure google
would tell me about it.

google hasn't complaind to me about my postings.

> Now stop morphing to escape my kill file you demented fuckwit.

i will post as i will post and my posting is not motivated

by you and your personl problems.

> > feel free to ignore my posts
> I will do.

then there's little chance of me hearing from you again, goodie goodie.

 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:01:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 1:01 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
Dear Timothy Sutter:

On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:19:01 AM UTC-7, Timothy Sutter wrote:
> dlzc wrote:
> > Timothy Sutter wrote:
...
> > > calling my posts "abusive" is a libel

> > Calling your posts off topic spam in this
> > newsgroup is truth.

> no, this would be your opinion.

Your off topic posts are spam according to posting guidelines.  No opinion required, however apparently others agree with me.

Either you stick to one thread title, so I can easily ignore your off-topic musings, or reporting continues.

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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:16:15 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

dlzc wrote:
> Dear Timothy Sutter:
>  Timothy Sutter wrote:
> > dlzc wrote:
> > > Timothy Sutter wrote:
> ...
> > > > calling my posts "abusive" is a libel
> > > Calling your posts off topic spam in this
> > > newsgroup is truth.
> > no, this would be your opinion.
> Your off topic posts are spam according to posting guidelines.

posting guidelines that you won't show
and quite likely are peculiar to your own
personal opinion of what constitutes topicallity,.

for instance, you seem to feel that posts -about-
topicallity are "on topic" when some people may
feel that such posts -about- "topicallity"
are not "on topic"

so, you can already see that your
opinion of "topicallity" is questuionable.

of course, in -your- mind, -anything- you post
is automatically "on topic"

fine.

> No opinion required,

except your opinon has weaseled its way
in to your ow personal "guidelines"

guidelines which you allude to but are, apparently,
unable to produce for inspection by anyone else.

> however apparently others agree with me.

a consensus of opinion is still a stack of opinions

maybe this is why you feel that my posts are not ontopic

because you have failed to distinguish the differentce
bewteen fact and opinion, a thing they teach elementary
school children and a thing adults should not have
such difficulty with.

this problem of yours is seeping its way in to your
opinions about what constuitutes "good science" no doubt.

> Either you stick to one thread title,

so, -you'd- be comfortable with me posting all of my posts
as "Timothy Sutter post" jut so -you- could manage to ignore them,
when you -could- simply see my name attached to a post
and manage to ignore based on this criterion alone.

i'll not title all of my posts as "Timothy Sutter post" to plase anyone.

> so I can easily ignore your off-topic musings, or reporting continues.

you can easily ignore all of my postings with out
such constrictions on my posting titles.

and you can "report" things to your little heart's content

and, as i see fit, i shall continue to repost any post
that i see disappear from the google archive that i
saw fit to post as topical in the foirst place.

you may do well to flag your own posts in this thread

except of course, if you grant yourself the allowance
of posting -about- what constitutes topicallity into an open forum.

=some= people will likely feel that posts -about-
topicallity are better dealt with via e-mail.

but, of course, you have your very own criterion for
 topicallity and you demand that everyone else adhere
to your personal and peculiar criteria which you
 have not yet made public.

enjoy your exercise in futility...


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:47:34 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> > Your off topic posts are spam according to posting guidelines.
> posting guidelines that you won't show
> and quite likely are peculiar to your own
> personal opinion of what constitutes topicallity,.

at least it's been made obvious someone is flagging
my posts at gurgle and says so in public not
affiliated with gurglegroups.

i'm quite aware that what gurgle does with
its "archive" is irrelevant to other usenet outlets.

fine, but, if and when i see fit to repost
posts that have been hidden at this "archive"

i shall do so.

i must give those idle minds and their idle hands something to do.

they can thank me later...


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:50:12 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> i must give those idle minds and their idle hands something to do.

that, and the outside chance that someone may
actually read them and get something out of them.


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:41:10 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
this is quite olde, 1999, but, as you can see,
sci.chem is unmoderated and covers the discussion
of all scientific aspects of chemistry and that
there is no Charter that would define topics for
discussion in the group.

like i have said, my posts are chemically related
as i consider that chemsitry, also called
 "the central science" is related to a mountaion
of information and not just what John Smith or
the writers of this particular FAQ may suggest.

one point being;

I do not consider my posts "off topic"

if I considered my posts to be "off topic"

someone may have a -reason- to call them "abusive"

but I am telling you that i do not consider them

"off topic" and, likewise, I feel justified

in reposting my posts when i see fit.

this is what "common sense" -should- tell you.

===
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq/part1/
Archive-name: sci/chem-faq/part1
Posting-Frequency: monthly
Last-modified: 22 October 1999
Version: 1.17

5.1  What topics does sci.chem cover?.

Sci.chem is an unmoderated discussion group, and it covers the
discussion
of all scientific aspects of chemistry. It is not intended to be an
educational resource that replaces your local library - which should
still
be your first port of call when seeking information. Because sci.chem
was
created in the 1980s, there is no Charter that would define topics for
discussion in the group, however common sense suggests that posts should
be
focused on aspects of chemistry not discussed elsewhere on Usenet. Newer
groups in the hierarchy do have Charters.

<..>

Please do not post messages complaining about what you perceive as noise
in
the group, as such posts usually just generate additional noise. If you
wish,
you can email posters asking them to desist from posting the material
that
offends you, but don't be surprised if you are also offended by their
responses.  

Some news-reading software can not display, or post, long articles (
like
this FAQ ), and you may have to ask your system administrator or ISP for
alternative software. A consistent inability to display large posts is
usually a problem with your reading software, not a mistake by the
posters.
===


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:44:11 -0500
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:46:27 -0500
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Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq/part1/

nothing in here gives me an impression
that what i post is "abusive" or "off topic"

that's as simple as that.

i shall repost some of my posts.

enjoy...


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:56:47 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

and, if you gurgle this URL or just sci.chem FAQ

you get nothing of note

a reference from 2008 that doesn't

even seem to be in sci.chem

and, with the deterioration of usenet in general

it is probably that FAQs have been

more often than not,  abandoned outright.

but, you go ahead and continue

your exercise in futility.

not that usenet was ever a "successful" enterprise

inasmuch as some people consider "success"

having everyone run lockstep with their dictates.

thank you, no.

my posts are "topical"  because i say so.

i don't -need- nor am i asking for anyone's

=permission= to post them

abnd, as far as i can see,

i need no such permission.

exercize in futility.

enjoy...


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:06:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
Dear Timothy Sutter:

On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:16:03 AM UTC-7, Timothy Sutter wrote:

...

> posting guidelines that you won't show
> and quite likely are peculiar to your own
> personal opinion of what constitutes topicallity,.

Because *you* just discovered usenet, does not mean it is not as old as the hills.

Here I did an internet search for you:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/spam-faq/
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/

Choose a newsgroup on topic for evoluton, and post there.  Never hear from me again, if you only post there.

Please note that usenet postings are government property, are admissible in court, and can be used against you in a court of law.  Not sure, but I think an applicant's postings have been used to squash a job offer as well.

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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:14:03 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

dlzc wrote:
> Dear Timothy Sutter:
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:16:03 AM UTC-7, Timothy Sutter wrote:
> ...
> > posting guidelines that you won't show
> > and quite likely are peculiar to your own
> > personal opinion of what constitutes topicallity,.
> Because *you* just discovered usenet, does not mean it is not as old as the hills.
> Here I did an internet search for you:
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/spam-faq/
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/

too late, i already posted this;

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.chem/IsAOmxO38dU/4gbgu8aQySEJ
========
this is quite olde, 1999, but, as you can see,
sci.chem is unmoderated and covers the discussion
of all scientific aspects of chemistry and that
there is no Charter that would define topics for
discussion in the group.

like i have said, my posts are chemically related
as i consider that chemsitry, also called
 "the central science" is related to a mountaion
of information and not just what John Smith or
the writers of this particular FAQ may suggest.

one point being;

I do not consider my posts "off topic"

if I considered my posts to be "off topic"

someone may have a -reason- to call them "abusive"

but I am telling you that i do not consider them

"off topic" and, likewise, I feel justified

in reposting my posts when i see fit.

this is what "common sense" -should- tell you.

===
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq/part1/
Archive-name: sci/chem-faq/part1
Posting-Frequency: monthly
Last-modified: 22 October 1999
Version: 1.17

5.1  What topics does sci.chem cover?.

Sci.chem is an unmoderated discussion group, and it covers the
discussion
of all scientific aspects of chemistry. It is not intended to be an
educational resource that replaces your local library - which should
still
be your first port of call when seeking information. Because sci.chem
was
created in the 1980s, there is no Charter that would define topics for
discussion in the group, however common sense suggests that posts should
be
focused on aspects of chemistry not discussed elsewhere on Usenet. Newer
groups in the hierarchy do have Charters.

<..>

Please do not post messages complaining about what you perceive as noise
in
the group, as such posts usually just generate additional noise. If you
wish,
you can email posters asking them to desist from posting the material
that
offends you, but don't be surprised if you are also offended by their
responses.  

Some news-reading software can not display, or post, long articles (
like
this FAQ ), and you may have to ask your system administrator or ISP for
alternative software. A consistent inability to display large posts is
usually a problem with your reading software, not a mistake by the
posters.
===
======

> Choose a newsgroup on topic for evoluton, and post there.

i don't need to do such a thing, my posts are already
topical here where i ampostingthem -now-

> Never hear from me again, if you only post there.

not worried about hearing from you again

> Please note that usenet postings are government property,
> are admissible in court, and can be used against you in a court of law.

well, now you have a career ahead of you

seeking to have me prosecuted for my posts.

>  Not sure, but I think an applicant's postings
> have been used to squash a job offer as well.

i'm not asking you for a job.

 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:32 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

and, if you gurgle this URL or just sci.chem FAQ

you get nothing of note

a reference from 2008 that doesn't

even seem to be in sci.chem

and, with the deterioration of usenet in general

it is probably that FAQs have been

more often than not,  abandoned outright.

but, you go ahead and continue

your exercise in futility.

not that usenet was ever a "successful" enterprise

inasmuch as some people consider "success"

having everyone run lockstep with their dictates.

thank you, no.

my posts are "topical"  because i say so.

i don't -need- nor am i asking for anyone's

=permission= to post them

abnd, as far as i can see,

i need no such permission.

exercize in futility.

enjoy...


 
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:20:20 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
T

> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq/part1/

> and, if you gurgle this URL or just sci.chem FAQ

but, i was already willing to keep my topics

confined to a thread or two

but that wasn't good enough for the mad post flaggr,

so, i expanded to more threads.

i'm still willing to postin fewer threads,

but if that thread gets flagged, i shall likely

resume my multiple thread posting.


 
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 3:24 pm
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalidate.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:25:07 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry

> T
> > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq/part1/
> > and, if you gurgle this URL or just sci.chem FAQ
> but, i was already willing to keep my topics
> confined to a thread or two

this because the relevance of some of my posts in this area,

are assisted the others to show a contiguous line of reasoning

but, they are still all perfectly well "topical"  as stand alone items.

but, as i have said, i am still willing to confine

 myself to a smallernumber of threads,

but, if all of my posts are automatically flagged,

which they were for a while,

i shall continue the exercise in futillity.

exercises in futility, in themselves,

being "topical" in a chemistry forum.

you -should- become acquainted with  exercises in futility,

they happen.


 
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 3:38 pm
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From: Timothy Sutter <inva...@invalidate.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:39:10 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: topics in chemsitry
===
 http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sci/chem-faq/part1/

"""Because sci.chem was created in the 1980s, there
is no Charter that would define topics for
discussion in the group"""
===

sci.chem has no Charter...period

one would do well to not try to enforce

a Charter that does not exist.

eggscellant


 
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