Bring to criminal responsibility the CERN.
Magnetic
of Russia.
To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
Statement
1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
collaptical explosion of the Earth.
Grounds:
A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and increase
the energy of collisions and their frequency. http://www.lhc-concern.info/
B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities about
the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
here: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.
December 2, 2009. Signature.
Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
and Lie in the Safety Assessment of Collider. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezru.html
English language analog of this page you can find here:
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
If you want to live make the same in your country.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor�s Office
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
I bet you're petitioning for the calendar to be changed to miss out 2012
as well, eh?
--
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
BradGuth
> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
> From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
>
> Statement
>
> 1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents on
> the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
> contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
> 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union and
> demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
> since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
> collaptical explosion of the Earth.
> Grounds:
> A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
> complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
> experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and increase
> B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
> that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
> magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities about
> the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
> here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
> 3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
> ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.
>
> December 2, 2009. Signature.
>
> Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
> English language analog of this page you can find here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>
> If you want to live make the same in your country.
99.9% of Usenet/newsgroup contributors are phony/bogus and can't be
trusted. So right there you've got a big problem in getting your
message through.
~ BG
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
>> of Russia.
>>
>> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
That's why NGs such as sci.physics.research exist.
But they cull the cranks, so no show for magneto...
BradGuth
wrote:> >> December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
> >> of Russia.
>
> >> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
sci.physics.research is moderated to death, so whatever LHC doesn't
want to deal with isn't gong to fly, no matters what.
I'm not convinced the LHC magnetic field(s) as such are 0.1% of what
it might take for something cosmic weird to happen, but that's just my
gut feeling.
However, are you suggesting that CERN and their LHC team od physics
wizards already know about and have full tactical containment
contingencies for each and every possible what-if outcome, including
double-mass protons as subatomic singularities that might never die?
What would it take to stop/terminate a double-mass proton that's
moving at near c?
If this double-mass proton should remain in the LHC loop along with
the other 300e12 protons; what's likely or unlikely to happen?
~ BG
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> BradGuth wrote:
>>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>>>> of Russia.
>>>> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
Nature
> If this double-mass proton should remain in the LHC loop along with
> the other 300e12 protons; what's likely or unlikely to happen?
>
> ~ BG
Nothing.
There's no such thing as a double mass proton.
BradGuth
wrote:
> BradGuth wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> BradGuth wrote:
> >>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> >>>> of Russia.
> >>>> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
>
> > sci.physics.research is moderated to death, so whatever LHC doesn't
> > want to deal with isn't gong to fly, no matters what.
>
> > I'm not convinced the LHC magnetic field(s) as such are 0.1% of what
> > it might take for something cosmic weird to happen, but that's just my
> > gut feeling.
>
> > However, are you suggesting that CERN and their LHC team od physics
> > wizards already know about and have full tactical containment
> > contingencies for each and every possible what-if outcome, including
> > double-mass protons as subatomic singularities that might never die?
>
> > What would it take to stop/terminate a double-mass proton that's
> > moving at near c?
>
> Nature
The hell you say, "nature" puts a stop to singularities? Do tell us
of those examples, of how black holes merely vanish without any fuss.
>
> > If this double-mass proton should remain in the LHC loop along with
> > the other 300e12 protons; what's likely or unlikely to happen?
>
> > ~ BG
>
> Nothing.
> There's no such thing as a double mass proton.
At least not yet, and let us hope there never will be any such double
mass protons that have a tidal binding force that's <4 fold greater
than anything else.
~ BG
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On Dec 2, 9:44 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> BradGuth wrote:
>>> On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> BradGuth wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>>>>>> of Russia.
>>>>>> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
If you knew any real physics instead of getting all your info on
CrankNet then you would understand.
BradGuth
wrote:
> BradGuth wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 9:44 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> BradGuth wrote:
> >>> On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> BradGuth wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> >>>>>> of Russia.
> >>>>>> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
Seems the only ones at risk here are those of you that have little or
no consideration for the rest of us.
Why is that this kind of edgy physics and risky science gets funded
and given all green lights, and other perfectly tangible failsafe
stuff that really matters doesn't?
What's your ruse or take/income from CERN/LHC?
~ BG
BradGuth
> >> of Russia.
>
> >> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
Is your "NEOPAX" allowed in "sci.physics.research"? (obviously it is)
What exactly does your NeoPax have to do with sci.physics.research?
Other than yourself being a brown-nosed clown or parrot on behalf of
the mainstream status quo, how about any of your following infomercial
ruse links?
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
~ BG
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On Dec 2, 10:29 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> BradGuth wrote:
>>> On Dec 2, 9:44 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> BradGuth wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> BradGuth wrote:
>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>>>>>>>> of Russia.
>>>>>>>> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
Because real scientists get to set the agenda and not Usenet loons.
> What's your ruse or take/income from CERN/LHC?
Knowledge.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> BradGuth wrote:
>>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>>>> of Russia.
>>>> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
I occasionally pose questions there, or answer them.
> Other than yourself being a brown-nosed clown or parrot on behalf of
> the mainstream status quo, how about any of your following infomercial
> ruse links?
By "mainstream status quo" I assume you mean people who actually have a
formal education and a proven track record in science.
> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
> http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
How about them?
Not only am I an engineer with a degree in theoretical physics, but I'm
an occultist as well:-)
I can do crank, or I can do straight.
You OTOH seem only to have one tune.
--
Dirk
BradGuth
wrote:
> BradGuth wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> BradGuth wrote:
> >>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> >>>> of Russia.
> >>>> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
>
> > Is your "NEOPAX" allowed in "sci.physics.research"? (obviously it is)
>
> > What exactly does your NeoPax have to do with sci.physics.research?
>
> I occasionally pose questions there, or answer them.
>
> > Other than yourself being a brown-nosed clown or parrot on behalf of
> > the mainstream status quo, how about any of your following infomercial
> > ruse links?
>
> By "mainstream status quo" I assume you mean people who actually have a
> formal education and a proven track record in science.
>
> >http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UK
> >http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show
>
> How about them?
> Not only am I an engineer with a degree in theoretical physics, but I'm
> an occultist as well:-)
>
> I can do crank, or I can do straight.
> You OTOH seem only to have one tune.
>
> --
> Dirk
>
In that case, how about contemplating yourself through my old
discovery of intelligent other life existing/coexisting on Venus?
(it's a valid deductive kind of theory with perfectly objective enough
science that can be easily replicated)
~ BG
BradGuth
wrote:
> BradGuth wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 10:29 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> BradGuth wrote:
> >>> On Dec 2, 9:44 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> BradGuth wrote:
> >>>>> On Dec 2, 8:51 am, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> BradGuth wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Dec 2, 3:24 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> of Russia.
> >>>>>>>> To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
>
> > Seems the only ones at risk here are those of you that have little or
> > no consideration for the rest of us.
>
> > Why is that this kind of edgy physics and risky science gets funded
> > and given all green lights, and other perfectly tangible failsafe
> > stuff that really matters doesn't?
>
> Because real scientists get to set the agenda and not Usenet loons.
Just because my nose isn't nearly as brown as theirs doesn't mean that
they always get the public funded green lights, while others don't.
>
> > What's your ruse or take/income from CERN/LHC?
>
> Knowledge.
Giving such public funded knowledge to a brown-nosed clown and/or
parrot of the mainstream status quo can be downright dangerous, if not
silly. However, aren't all Rothschilds as brown-nosed as yourself?
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax / http://www.neopax.com/links/
Knowledge of God is my Capital;
Reason is the Root of my Faith;
Love is my Foundation;
Enthusiasm is my Horse;
Remembrance of my God is my Friend;
Firmness is my Treasure;
Sorrow is my companion;
Science is my Weapon;
Patience is my Mantle;
Contentment is my Booty;
Poverty is my Pride;
Devotion is my Art;
Conviction is my Power;
Truth is my Redeemer;
Obedience is my Sufficiency;
Struggle is my Manner;
And My Pleasure is in my Prayers.
Mohammed (pbuh)
~ BG
Dr Ivan D. Reid
wrote in <d952fb1f-4d06-4a3f...@r31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>:
> Just because my nose isn't nearly as brown as theirs doesn't mean that
> they always get the public funded green lights, while others don't.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/01/large-hadron-collider-research
--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
Eric Gisin
"Magnetic" <magnet...@yandex.ua> wrote in message
news:7608d0ca-598c-4807...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor�s Office
of Russia.
To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
BradGuth
> On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:26:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> wrote in <d952fb1f-4d06-4a3f-85e0-b0caa1150...@r31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > Just because my nose isn't nearly as brown as theirs doesn't mean that
> > they always get the public funded green lights, while others don't.
>
>
> --
> Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
> Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
> KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
In other words, the ends always justifies the means? (sounds like a
Rothschild policy)
~ BG
Magnetic
> On Dec 2, 2:16 pm, "Dr Ivan D. Reid" <Ivan.R...@brunel.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:26:47 -0800 (PST), BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com>
> > wrote in <d952fb1f-4d06-4a3f-85e0-b0caa1150...@r31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > > Just because my nose isn't nearly as brown as theirs doesn't mean that
> > > they always get the public funded green lights, while others don't.
>
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/01/large-hadron-coll...
>
> > --
> > Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
> > Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
> > KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
>
> In other words, the ends always justifies the means? (sounds like a
> Rothschild policy)
>
> ~ BG
>
> Knowledge of God is my Capital;
> Reason is the Root of my Faith;
> Love is my Foundation;
> Enthusiasm is my Horse;
> Remembrance of my God is my Friend;
> Firmness is my Treasure;
> Sorrow is my companion;
> Science is my Weapon;
> Patience is my Mantle;
> Contentment is my Booty;
> Poverty is my Pride;
> Devotion is my Art;
> Conviction is my Power;
> Truth is my Redeemer;
> Obedience is my Sufficiency;
> Struggle is my Manner;
> And My Pleasure is in my Prayers.
> Mohammed (pbuh)
Send police to CERN and arrest Rolf Heuer and all his bigbangers. He
is deadly dangerous for all humanity. He can kill you today with
great
probability.
December 2, 2009 I have delivered petition to the Prosecutor’s Office
of Russia.
To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
Statement
1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents
on
the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union
and
demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
collaptical explosion of the Earth.
Grounds:
A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and
increase
the energy of collisions and their frequency. http://www.lhc-concern.info/
B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities
about
the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
here: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.
December 2, 2009. Signature.
Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
and Lie in the Safety Assessment of Collider. http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezru.html
gb
Texas has a loony bin too already, not in the coldest Siberia, but a
labor camp in the hottest desert in the USA in Texas where people are
put to all day labor and admittedly to heat suffering, they can't
sleep in that heat, and 115F one can take 5 minutes outside usually
but they have to work all day.
I too think Cern will blow but the explosion will not be bigger than
an atomic bomb, since the explosion comes from a single subatomic
particle collision, this time to make an atom, not to split it in an
explosion, but I believe it might spin off like a Supernova (which
based on science does not spin off but burns out to heavier and
heavier elements, and when it starts making iron it blows spinoff or
not, knowledge or not, human dignities where they matter or not, the
USA is basically a dictatorship if one thinks about it. It likes to
play buttsuck the hard line in the buttcrack, big brother like 99
percent of people online.).
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> of Russia.
>
> To Prosecutor�s Office of Russia.
Time to kill this whole thread.
Death threats, ad hominem, anti-semitism.
It's devolved to the lowest common Usenet denominator.
BradGuth
wrote:
> > of Russia.
>
> > To Prosecutor’s Office of Russia.
> > From Ivan Gorelik (address, phone, passport data)
>
> > Statement
>
> > 1. Please bring to criminal responsibility the authors of documents
> > on
> > the Large Hadron Collider Safety Assessment, because these documents
> > contain crude errors and false statements. See Annex 1.
> > 2. Please contact the law enforcement bodies of the European Union
> > and
> > demand the immediate termination of the experiment at the Collider,
> > since the experiment could lead to the magnetic collapse and to the
> > collaptical explosion of the Earth.
> > Grounds:
> > A. 20 November 2009 an international committee ConCERNed filed a
> > complaint to the European Court of Human Rights in Geneva to stop the
> > experiment at the Collider, but CERN continues experiment and
> > increase
> > B. Physicists of CERN considered only four items of dangerous objects
> > that can be created at the collider, and ignored the theory of
> > magnetic holes. I have repeatedly appealed to higher authorities
> > about
> > the danger of magnetic holes. Calculation of magnetic holes is shown
> > here:http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.html
> > 3. I beg to bring to the United Nations the issue of an international
> > ban on the collision of particles with energies higher than 0.1 TeV.
>
> > December 2, 2009. Signature.
>
> > Annex on three sheets from my page Russian language page Crude Errors
> > English language analog of this page you can find here:
> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html
>
> Time to kill this whole thread.
> Death threats, ad hominem, anti-semitism.
> It's devolved to the lowest common Usenet denominator.
>
> --
> Dirk
>
You have such little faith. At least "Magnetic" has been expressing
honest concern for others. Can you say the same?
~ BG
BradGuth
Perhaps it's too late, because as you know they're only going to delay
sharing negative information, or simply manage to lose track of all
their bad or unfortunate happenings so that it looks as though LHC
business is running smoothly, sort of as per usual, with no apparent
harm done or risk taken.
If anything of a weird singularity gets created, the LHC team itself
may at first be unaware until another part of their vast system or
complex becomes obviously affected or damaged.
Physics may never be the same again, especially if the entire planet
becomes singularity food. However, if a singularity can be safely
contained, imagine the horrific and clean energy potential. Imagine
their creating the element U476, on demand none the less, or just
turning/converting whatever element such as Uue119 into U238, or Pd46
into U92, or how about some good news of LHC creating tonnes of 3He,
so that we don't have to go to the moon.
Perhaps we'll be lucky enough if they only manage to create a
terrestrial nova.
~ BG
Sjouke Burry
>> I hope the judge sends you straight to the Siberian loony bin.
>
> Texas has a loony bin too already, not in the coldest Siberia,
GB is our loony bin expert !!??
BradGuth
The good news, is that it's only going to get worse before it gets any
better.
How does it feel being so extensively owned by China?
At least when CERN goes nova, real estate prices in America and most
anywhere other than near CERN, should rise substantially.
~ BG
Magnetic
at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/dr_dark_energy/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/dr_dark_energy/page2.html
At the end of the article the author try to calm the readers that LHC
will collide protons with the energy only about 450 GeV.
But the calculation (two independent approaches) gives us the value
about 250 GeV.
Indeed, that is smaller than the collision energy of Tevatron. But is
it possible to create a magnetic hole at Tevatron, colliding protons
and antiprotons? Magnetic field in the central point between these
flying by particles is equal to zero, B = 0. But at the LHC B = 2B_1.
That is smaller than the energy of cosmic rays. But look at my model
with two 10-kg bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle,
corresponding to cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle,
corresponding to LHC collisions, will transform the town into
Hiroshima.
The 250 GeV energy per colliding proton was already achieved at RHIC.
Experimentalists could see collapses – fireballs – about four years
ago. It is possible that those fireballs are experimental proves of
magnetic holes. Those holes evaporated immediately because the RHIC
collided heavy nuclei, containing many protons and neutrons. Will such
holes evaporate at LHC, or will created magnetic holes begin to
capture the slowly moving protons of Earth?
One of the authors of documents about the safety of LHC, Igor Tkachev,
is 100% confident that at the center of our Galaxy there is a huge
black hole.
I am 95 % confident that at the center of our Galaxy there is a huge
magnetic hole. I think that magnetic hole, besides the magnetic field,
has axial-symmetric gravity field, stretching mostly in the plane of
our Galaxy. This explains the huge velocities of peripheral stars of
our Galaxy. In other words, - there is no any dark matter in our
Universe. Its role is performed by magnetic holes. There is no any
dark energy in our Ever Young Universe. Its role is performed by
cosmic background radiation. Hubble constant is not the parameter of
Universe expansion, but the angular frequency of 4-d rotation of
Universe. 13.34 billion years is not the age of Universe, but the time
of one full 4-d rotation of Ever Young Universe. Energy sources of
stars in Ever Young Universe are different from the sources in Big
Bang Universe. Our energy sources can be described by corrected
formula of Hawking. This formula must contain the square root from
Dirac’s big number. This formula describes the luminosity of stars,
but not the black holes evaporation. In our model there are no black
holes, but there can be extremely rapid gravity collapses, ending by
disappearance of gravity funnel and huge gamma-burst. Gravity collapse
is the final part of magnetic collapse if the mass of the magnetic
hole is sufficient and if its configuration is correspondent.
Astronomers, show me, please, black holes.
No?
But, I can to show you the picturesque magnetic hole.
Here it is: [img]http://darkenergy.narod.ru/sn1987.jpg[/img]
Magnetic holes explain us the cause of several astronomical pulses:
gamma-bursts, huge radio jets, the annihilation lines of electron-
positron pairs, huge velocities of remnants of cosmic catastrophes,
the absence of civilizations which are older, than those, who can
build powerful colliders.
People, please, stop powerful colliders immediately.
Collisions with energy, more that 100 GeV must be banned by
international law, otherwise our Solar system will look like SN
1987A.
[quote]Is it possible you are wrong with your theories. Is it
possible ?[/quote]
If I was not confident, I would not fear LHC, I would sleep calmly,
but, as can you see, I am in shock now.
[quote]How have you determined, with such certainty, that your right ?
You still have provided no proof at all that you are correct.[/quote]
Two mathematical proves. Dozen of supplementary arguments.
[quote]Is it possible that you are overly fearful and that scaring the
public is a irresponsible, immoral and unethical thing to do if you
have no proof at all of your theories ?[/quote]
I said the truth. Are bigbangers responsible and honest in their
gaining the ruling position in science? Look at the open letter of
anti bigbangers, signed by thousand of famous scientists, who are
rejected the idea of Big Bang: http://www.cosmologystatement.org/
There is no pluralism in science now. Science was transformed into
religious dogma by bigbangers. Because of this I have no job in
science. Because of this the Earth can undergo the big bang, but this
bang will not prove the Big Bang theory.
People, please, stop powerful colliders immediately.
Collisions with energy, more that 100 GeV must be banned by
international law.
BradGuth
> At last, the news about the most dangerous thing, which can be created
> at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
>
CERN/LHC has to be aware of such possible magnetic holes or
singularities that take on a life of their own. This doesn't mean
that their intentions and subsequent actions are going to be failsafe.
As protons interact and their quarks per proton increase ???????
~ BG
BradGuth
> at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
>
>
> At the end of the article the author try to calm the readers that LHC
> will collide protons with the energy only about 450 GeV.
>
> But the calculation (two independent approaches) gives us the value
> about 250 GeV.
>
> Indeed, that is smaller than the collision energy of Tevatron. But is
> and antiprotons?Magneticfield in the central point between these
> flying by particles is equal to zero, B = 0. But at the LHC B = 2B_1.
>
> That is smaller than the energy of cosmic rays. But look at my model
> with two 10-kg bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle,
> corresponding to cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle,
> corresponding to LHC collisions, will transform the town into
> Hiroshima.
>
> The 250 GeV energy per colliding proton was already achieved at RHIC.
> Experimentalists could see collapses – fireballs – about four years
> collided heavy nuclei, containing many protons and neutrons. Will such
> capture the slowly moving protons of Earth?
>
> One of the authors of documents about the safety of LHC, Igor Tkachev,
> is 100% confident that at the center of our Galaxy there is a huge
> black hole.
> I am 95 % confident that at the center of our Galaxy there is a hugemagnetichole. I think thatmagnetichole, besides themagneticfield,
> has axial-symmetric gravity field, stretching mostly in the plane of
> our Galaxy. This explains the huge velocities of peripheral stars of
> our Galaxy. In other words, - there is no any dark matter in our
> dark energy in our Ever Young Universe. Its role is performed by
> cosmic background radiation. Hubble constant is not the parameter of
> Universe expansion, but the angular frequency of 4-d rotation of
> Universe. 13.34 billion years is not the age of Universe, but the time
> of one full 4-d rotation of Ever Young Universe. Energy sources of
> stars in Ever Young Universe are different from the sources in Big
> Bang Universe. Our energy sources can be described by corrected
> formula of Hawking. This formula must contain the square root from
> Dirac’s big number. This formula describes the luminosity of stars,
> but not the black holes evaporation. In our model there are no black
> holes, but there can be extremely rapid gravity collapses, ending by
> disappearance of gravity funnel and huge gamma-burst. Gravity collapse
> is the final part ofmagneticcollapse if the mass of themagnetic
> hole is sufficient and if its configuration is correspondent.
>
> Astronomers, show me, please, black holes.
> No?
> But, I can to show you the picturesquemagnetichole.
> Here it is: [img]http://darkenergy.narod.ru/sn1987.jpg[/img]
>
What's going on in Norway? (first signs of magnetic trap?)
"Mystery as spiral blue light display hovers above Norway"
~ BG
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On Dec 4, 9:29 pm, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>> At last, the news about the most dangerous thing, which can be created
>> at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/dr_dark_energy/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/04/dr_dark_energy/page2.html
>>
>> At the end of the article the author try to calm the readers that LHC
>> will collide protons with the energy only about 450 GeV.
>>
>> But the calculation (two independent approaches) gives us the value
>> about 250 GeV.
>>
>> Indeed, that is smaller than the collision energy of Tevatron. But is
>> it possible to create amagnetichole at Tevatron, colliding protons
>> and antiprotons?Magneticfield in the central point between these
>> flying by particles is equal to zero, B = 0. But at the LHC B = 2B_1.
>>
>> That is smaller than the energy of cosmic rays. But look at my model
>> with two 10-kg bottles with neutrons. You will see that the bottle,
>> corresponding to cosmic rays, will be safe. But the bottle,
>> corresponding to LHC collisions, will transform the town into
>> Hiroshima.
>>
>> The 250 GeV energy per colliding proton was already achieved at RHIC.
>> ago. It is possible that those fireballs are experimental proves ofmagneticholes. Those holes evaporated immediately because the RHIC
>> collided heavy nuclei, containing many protons and neutrons. Will such
>> holes evaporate at LHC, or will createdmagneticholes begin to
>> capture the slowly moving protons of Earth?
>>
>> One of the authors of documents about the safety of LHC, Igor Tkachev,
>> is 100% confident that at the center of our Galaxy there is a huge
>> black hole.
>> I am 95 % confident that at the center of our Galaxy there is a hugemagnetichole. I think thatmagnetichole, besides themagneticfield,
>> has axial-symmetric gravity field, stretching mostly in the plane of
>> our Galaxy. This explains the huge velocities of peripheral stars of
>> our Galaxy. In other words, - there is no any dark matter in our
>> Universe. Its role is performed bymagneticholes. There is no any
>> dark energy in our Ever Young Universe. Its role is performed by
>> cosmic background radiation. Hubble constant is not the parameter of
>> Universe expansion, but the angular frequency of 4-d rotation of
>> Universe. 13.34 billion years is not the age of Universe, but the time
>> of one full 4-d rotation of Ever Young Universe. Energy sources of
>> stars in Ever Young Universe are different from the sources in Big
>> Bang Universe. Our energy sources can be described by corrected
>> formula of Hawking. This formula must contain the square root from
Mystery as people play with their lasers?
Or maybe its just those aliens again doing crop circle stuff and trying
to warn us about CERN
Damon Hill
news:89469032-fb02-44b2...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
> What's going on in Norway? (first signs of magnetic trap?)
>
> "Mystery as spiral blue light display hovers above Norway"
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral
> -blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html
Apparently a failed Russian missle launch.
--Damon
Nightcrawler
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:89469032-fb02-44b2...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 4, 9:29 pm, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
<crap snipped>
Great, Guthie has a new loon to play with. Isn't that special...
BradGuth
> On Dec 4, 9:29 pm, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>
>
>
> > At last, the news about the most dangerous thing, which can be created
> > at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
>
I figured as much. They simply don't know what's going to happen
until after the fact.
Perhaps this is what an LHC “magnetic trap” or wormhole vortex looks
like. Oddly, it seems that it has also affected my Google Groups
(Usenet/newsgroup) performance, dragging it down to its knees. How
many Usenet/newsgroup servers are affected?
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
“Now they have done it, they fired up the LHC and created the black
hole.”
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
Apparently, this is not a Photoshopped image, as there are several
more just like it, taken from various locations. This morning in
northern Norway, people saw a strange light in the sky which shocked
residents and so far, the phenomenon has yet to be explained. This
picture was taken from a pier, looking to the east, approximately at
07.50 am local time. "I can imagine that it went on for two, three
minutes," said the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen. "It was
unbelievable. I was quite shaken when I saw it."
“I also received a report today from a geophysicist in Papua,
Indonesia who observed "an enormous flare (bolide?) visible here at
Tomage (2°39'27"S 132°59'27"E), and the sighting was at a bearing
approximately 165 (East of South) and the flare seemed to begin at
about 30 degrees above the horizon." Paul Anderson said the date and
time of the flare was approximately 2009.12.09 12:39 UTC”
Nuking our spendy LHC isn’t entirely unacceptable, although even a
relatively small tactical nuke should damage enough LHC helium cooling
to force an extended shut-down.
~ BG
BradGuth
wrote:
>
> Mystery as people play with their lasers?
> Or maybe its just those aliens again doing crop circle stuff and trying
> to warn us about CERN
>
> --
> Dirk
>
Perhaps this is what an LHC “magnetic trap” or wormhole vortex looks
like. Oddly, it seems that posting this has also affected my Google
Groups (Usenet/newsgroup) performance, dragging it down to its knees.
How many Usenet/newsgroup servers are affected?
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
“Now they have done it, they fired up the LHC and created the black
hole.”
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
Apparently, this is not a Photoshopped image, as there are several
more just like it, taken from various locations. This morning in
northern Norway, people saw a strange light in the sky which shocked
residents and so far, the phenomenon has yet to be explained. This
picture was taken from a pier, looking to the east, approximately at
07.50 am local time. "I can imagine that it went on for two, three
minutes," said the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen. "It was
unbelievable. I was quite shaken when I saw it."
“I also received a report today from a geophysicist in Papua,
Indonesia who observed "an enormous flare (bolide?) visible here at
Tomage (2°39'27"S 132°59'27"E), and the sighting was at a bearing
approximately 165 (East of South) and the flare seemed to begin at
about 30 degrees above the horizon." Paul Anderson said the date and
time of the flare was approximately 2009.12.09 12:39 UTC”
~ BG
BradGuth
Sure thing, why not a typical wormhole or magnetic trap missile
failure, just all those other missile vortex patterns that have never
been recorded because, they never happened.
Perhaps this is what an LHC “magnetic trap” or wormhole vortex looks
like. Oddly, it seems that it has also affected my Google Groups
(Usenet/newsgroup) performance, dragging it down to its knees. How
many Usenet/newsgroup servers are affected?
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
“Now they have done it, they fired up the LHC and created the black
hole.”
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/09/weird-giant-spiral-seen-in-sky-over-norway/
Apparently, this is not a Photoshopped image, as there are several
more just like it, taken from various locations. This morning in
northern Norway, people saw a strange light in the sky which shocked
residents and so far, the phenomenon has yet to be explained. This
picture was taken from a pier, looking to the east, approximately at
07.50 am local time. "I can imagine that it went on for two, three
minutes," said the photographer Jan Petter Jørgensen. "It was
unbelievable. I was quite shaken when I saw it."
“I also received a report today from a geophysicist in Papua,
Indonesia who observed "an enormous flare (bolide?) visible here at
Tomage (2°39'27"S 132°59'27"E), and the sighting was at a bearing
approximately 165 (East of South) and the flare seemed to begin at
about 30 degrees above the horizon." Paul Anderson said the date and
time of the flare was approximately 2009.12.09 12:39 UTC”
Nuking our spendy LHC isn’t entirely unacceptable, although even a
Androcles
"Damon Hill" <damon...@comcast.not> wrote in message
news:Xns9CDCAE00024A...@127.0.0.1...
Would that be anything like this failed American rocket launch
that didn't fail?
http://www.scara.org/assets/photos/sep-rocket4.jpg
BradGuth
For the moment, I'll have to go along with the highly unusual rocket
notion, that just so happened to take place at the same time as the
LHC was getting its beams up to speed. However, I believe Russia too
has a substantial investment in the LHC to protect, so there's no
telling what they would do in order to cover-up any external/outside
affects or unusual consequences.
~ BG
Magnetic
> At last, the news about the most dangerous thing, which can be created
> at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
>
BradGuth
> On Dec 5, 7:29 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...@yandex.ua> wrote:
>
> > At last, the news about the most dangerous thing, which can be created
> > at LHC, was published in well-known media edition.
>
Reformulate/revise your math for the most conservative outcome, and
let us see what the least possible doom and gloom of any LHC produced
magnetic trap has to offer. After all, you could be 10% right, or
even 0.1% correct is still noteworthy if there's an upper failsafe
limit that needs to be avoided at all possible cost..
~ BG
BradGuth
Mainstream science and physics that’s almost always public funded, is
always doing that rule or interpretation changing thing, so that
whatever final outcome appears similar to their original intensions.
Their spendy GPB fiasco for example.
What if "Magnetic" (due to his fuzzy math) were only 0.1% correct?
In other words, if I were to badly shoot a thousand rounds of AK-47
ammo at you, and if I were only 0.1% on target, would the outcome
really matter? (why of course it would, because you'd be dead)
That’s why I give “Magnetic” the open benefit of doubt, because in
such extreme physics almost anything becomes possible.
Our deaths via LHC magnetic trap or terrestrial nova due to those
pesky double-mass protons going rogue is at least better than what's
happening to some of us as is. Perhaps our Rothschild Darla and those
ET "seans" will have to save us after all, as otherwise we'll have
destroyed their Eden and most of every other planet and moon within
our solar system.
~ BG
Magnetic
They have made about million collisions.
The billionth collision can be the last for our planet.
> > CERN is idiots and killers of your, my, and their children.
> >> > Read more at
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/index.htmlinEnglish,
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/ru.htmlinRussian.
> >> > Calculation of magnetic hole (two independent approaches)
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtren.htmlinEnglish,
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/magtrru.htmlinRussian.
> >> > Additional proving arguments
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.htmlinEnglish,
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argru.htmlinRussian.
> >> > Crude errors in the LHC safety documents
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.htmlinEnglish,
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezru.htmlinRussian.
> >> > Letters to Prosecutor’s Office of Russia
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/proceng.htmlinEnglish,
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/proceq.htmlinRussian.
> >> > LHC and Reproduction of Biospheres
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/civilen.htmlinEnglish,
> >> >http://darkenergy.narod.ru/civilru.htmlinRussian.
> >> > Russian language pages are more informative.
> >> > Best regards, Ivan Gorelik.
BradGuth
It sounds bad, though I'm not sufficiently qualified to know either
way. However, our resident energy wizard of Oz, William Mook, knows
just about everything. Others here know far more than they can share
without getting into big trouble.
~ BG