Meteorology or Marine Biology?
Jonah
looking at either meteorology or marine biology. I need some info. on
both, what they really consist of doing job wise and where I can get
the best education for them.
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Lou
any money in it.
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brett rowley
"Lou" <l...@nice.try> wrote:
I resemble that remark!
Same is true for freshwater biology.
Sure is something to love, though.
Brett
Sheri
brett rowley wrote:
> In article <749k2l$hrf$1...@nntp.gulfsouth.verio.net>,
> "Lou" <l...@nice.try> wrote:
>
> >If you choose Marine Biology, do it because you LOVE it. There surely
> isn't
> >any money in it.
> >[snip]
> >
> >
>
> I resemble that remark!
>
me too!
> Same is true for freshwater biology.
>
> Sure is something to love, though.
true enough.. :) I do streams/forestry-related (read: gov't funded)
inventory/assessment work... you?
>
>
> Brett
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Brian8577
>any money in it.
>
Well, there's some money in it. granted it's not enough to make you rich. But
niether will going into meteorlogy. But if you truely can not decide, major in
physical SCI. It has abit of both worlds
Brian8577
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>Sure is something to love, though.
>
ahh, we all know that marine biology covers freshwater as well as sea. right?
HAEMUL
>From: bria...@aol.com (Brian8577)
>Date: Sun, Dec 6, 1998 01:41 EST
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>ahh, we all know that marine biology covers freshwater as well as sea. right?
ahh, we all know that you don't know the
definition of limnology, right?
brett rowley
Sheri <rascal@take_this_out.direct.ca> wrote:
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>brett rowley wrote:
>
>> In article <749k2l$hrf$1...@nntp.gulfsouth.verio.net>,
>> "Lou" <l...@nice.try> wrote:
>>
>> >If you choose Marine Biology, do it because you LOVE it. There surely
>> isn't
>> >any money in it.
>> >[snip]
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I resemble that remark!
>>
>
>me too!
>
>> Same is true for freshwater biology.
>>
>> Sure is something to love, though.
>
>true enough.. :) I do streams/forestry-related (read: gov't funded)
>inventory/assessment work... you?
>
>>
>>
>> Brett
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I work primarily as a fish culturist and ecologist. My consulting biz is
mostly involved in freshwater sports fisheries development and management as
well as warmwater fish culture.
20 years I've worked at this. I began on a small family fish hatchery
working for $150/week and an old trailer house to live in rent free. I also
recieved all the farm raised meat, fish, poultry, eggs and garden vegetables
I could eat.
Moved to a bigger hatchery after 6 years and the arrival of my first child.
The bigger hatchery was in a more "civilised" area. From there to a giant
catfish production farm, hatchery, and processing facility.
Next to a corporate fishing resort where I made it to general manager and a
reasonable salary and benefits approaching $60K/year. Didn't care for it,
though. Too much time in an office "the dungeon" as we know it, too many
problems with the cook, housekeeper, and rowdy guests. I quit. My
employers couldn't let me go so they arranged for me to stay as a working
consultant 1/2 a week 1/2 the pay, no benefits. I consult for anybody,
anywhere that can use my 20+ years of experience. I also have my own
hatchery now, producing high quality Japanese koi. Took me 7 years of study
to just begin to understand koi. Oh, spawning, rearing, fingerling
production, etc. isn't any different than most fish. The art of selecting
from the fingerlings, producing high quality animals through breeding and
care, and selling them is quite different. During my work at the corporate
fishing resort, they helped finance my education in koi. Sending me to
Japan and bringing Japanese breeders here (S.E. Texas) to live with me
sometimes for as long as 6 months at a time.
I bought that from my employers when I quit and become independent.
A word to the wise, have a gainfully employed spouse. My wife is a
biologist also, but early on we knew that two biologists cannot support one
family (not at $150/week each anyway). She went back to school and is now a
well paid coronary care nurse.
The koi hatchery pays its own way, but doesn't pay me or any of my help. If
I do ever get "rich" (financially, I am already rich in many ways) it will
be through koi.
Few regrets. American dream fractured, but intact. Two decent cars, one
mortgage, two kids, a bit of stock in the corporation I worked 6 years for,
etc.
Brett
brett rowley
bria...@aol.com (Brian8577) wrote:
>>Same is true for freshwater biology.
>>
>>Sure is something to love, though.
>>
>
>ahh, we all know that marine biology covers freshwater as well as sea.
right?
I must take exception. I always (almost always anyhow) correct folks that
call me a "marine biologist" as I am not. I am a "fisheries biologist" or
"fisheries ecologist".
Perhaps some "marine biologists" that work in freshwater consider themselves
that. In 20+ years of working as and with biologists, I've yet to meet one.
Brett
Sheri
Brian8577 wrote:
> >Same is true for freshwater biology.
> >
> >Sure is something to love, though.
> >
>
> ahh, we all know that marine biology covers freshwater as well as sea. right?
did I miss the meaning of MARINE somewhere along the way?
ENL
Brian8577 wrote in message <19981206013856...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
Nick V
ENL wrote in message <74gqlt$iou$1...@nntp.gulfsouth.verio.net>...
>I don't know about that. Those TV meteorologists seem pretty well off.
Yeah....and a lot fo them don't even degrees.
Nick
Nick V
meant to say:
Yeah....and a lot of them don't even have degrees
Nick V wrote in message <74h0f3$8...@chronicle.concentric.net>...
ENL
reporters".
Nick V wrote in message <74h27v$a...@chronicle.concentric.net>...
Mark Amend
barely make enough each month to make ends meet. If I had children, it'd
be extremely hard to live on the coast (most coastal locations, in the US at
least, are expensive to live in). That's probably why not a lot of folks go
into marine biology, or stay in it for that matter. The pay is low low low.
You really DO have to love it, as one person stated. And, ... some (most)
positions are on soft money and only last for a few years. Not a very
stable job field.
Have you considered satellite/ remote sensing or GIS applications to Marine
Biology? That's where higher paying jobs in marine biology are these days.
Remote sensing/ GIS is becoming rapidly commercialized (governments
/military are allowing satellite data to be used by the general public) and
thus so are the opportunities for privately-funded jobs. Furthermore, these
jobs don't have to be located on the coast. Housing and cost-of-living may
be lower in more inland locales, perhaps?
With regards to MS or PhD, it really depends on what field you go into. In
Marine Bio, the pay range is slightly higher for PhD's, but I personally
know several who are competing for jobs that require only a Bachelor's
degree. That's pretty sad.
Since you're just entering school, remember that you don't have to set your
life in stone yet. It helps to have long term goals (so you can get some
prerequisites out of the way, for example) but it also helps to see what
things you like and don't like. Start to mold your degree path from that.
My personal recommendation is get your feet wet in marine bio by spending a
quarter
at a field station, maybe summer term..
One other suggestion: if you do go into marine biology, you best volunteer
with a faculty member (or several) to get real research experience before
applying to grad schools. With so many people going to grad school these
days, you need every little bit of >OOMF!< to get your grad school
application noticed by faculty. Acceptance decisions are sometimes based on
experience alone (where several applicants have great grades, excellent GRE
scores, etc. but YOU have RESEARCH experience!!!).
May the force be with you
-Mark