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xerxes

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Mar 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/31/00
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Please give me the names of the colleges or universities that you
would recommend to someone who intends to study marine biology as
an undergraduate.

Thanks.

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Morgan

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Mar 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/31/00
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Texas A&M University, Galveston campus

Jim Jar

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Apr 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/1/00
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Southampton college, Southampton N.Y.


SeafoodAdv

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Apr 2, 2000, 4:00:00 AM4/2/00
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Usually colleges with marine labs are better equipped for field teaching which
is what marine biology is about. In random order, are the following.

1. Cornell University/University of New Hampshire-shares a joint marine lab
called Shoals Marine Lab.

2. University of Washington, under the dept. of zoology, Friday Harbor Marine
Labs in the San Juan Islands, WA. A top notch lab.

3. Virginia Institute of Marine Science(called VIMS).

4. SUNY, Stonybrook

5. Northeastern University(in Boston). Has a small lab up north of Boston.

6. University of Maryland

7. University of Southern California, has a lab on Catalina Island.

8. University of Miami, good marine lab.

9. Duke University has an excellent marine lab as well. Duke University Marine
Lab on Pivers Island, NC.

10. UC Davis has a program in marine science.

11. UC Santa Barbara has a good program.

12. Oregon State Univesity

13. University of Oregon

14. Western Washington University in Bellingham, WA has a small marine lab
in Anacortes, WA.

15. University of Hawaii.

16. University of Rhode Island.

Also most coastal and non-coastal schools have interdisciplinary programs
in marine biology where you can design your own program. The best way is to
inquire for brochures, check their websites, or actually visit the schools if
you can.

Good Luck,

Walter Rhee

Do not expect to be rich or live on an above average income after graduation.
People in marine biology professions are there for the love of the ocean, not
the money.

Matt P

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Apr 2, 2000, 4:00:00 AM4/2/00
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Cook College, Rutgers University < New Jersey

Institute for marine and Coastal Sciences
www.marine.rutgers.edu

Steve Barbeaux

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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Don't overlook New College of USF in Sarasota, Florida. It's a Liberal Arts
School, but/and has a great Marine Bio program. Basically, you design your own
curriculum.


brett rowley

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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In article <38E4F828...@scms.utmb.edu>,
Morgan <mor...@scms.utmb.edu> wrote:

Right on, Bro!

Brett

Mark Schadler

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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>Please give me the names of the colleges or universities that you
>would recommend to someone who intends to study marine biology as
>an undergraduate.

A small list:

MIT (Woods Hole)
Scripps Institute (UCSD)
USF
Duke
U of Florida (Rosenstiel School)
Rutgers
North Carolina at Wilmington
Nova
Texas A&M
U Delaware
William & Mary (VIMS)
Kutztown U. of PA
Washington


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SeafoodAdv

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Apr 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/11/00
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I forgot to mention that coastal colleges with Sea Grant programs usually have
good marine biology programs. The concept works similar to Land Grant to
agriculture. Search engines should lead you to the list of the Sea Grant
colleges.
Some inland colleges also have Sea Grant programs but have freshwater biology
curriculums associated with it.

Good Luck,

Walter Rhee

Hans Lemke

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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St. Marys college of MD doesnt have a specific major, but you can get a
great variety of courses there--small, liberal arts state
school--reasonable price
check itout!!

Disclaimer:I am an alum so my opinion is biased
Hans

The Official Y2K Greeter

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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what about zoomass?


draseymour

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May 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/10/00
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Hi Walter
Though I understand your remark that we in fish etc are doing it
for the love of it not the money.. I regret that you are helping
to perpetuate the fact that us in fish etc should be paid low
salaries because we would apparently do it for nothing. The
fact is that most other professional people love their job but
get paid high salaries for it.. Dont you think there's something
wrong here. About time fish boys and girls made a stand dont
you think?!
regards
Andrew

SeafoodAdv

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May 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/11/00
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>Hi Walter
>Though I understand your remark that we in fish etc are doing it
>for the love of it not the money.. I regret that you are helping
>to perpetuate the fact that us in fish etc should be paid low
>salaries because we would apparently do it for nothing.

-Your interpretation, I never implied nor said that "fish people would
apparently do it for nothing." Post my original quote.

The
>fact is that most other professional people love their job but
>get paid high salaries for it.. Dont you think there's something
>wrong here. About time fish boys and girls made a stand dont
>you think?!
>regards
>Andrew
>
>

You are right, there is something wrong with it. Most of my colleagues switched
careers. As for me, I am about to do the same. I would like my family to have a
comfortable life and not suffer through my love for marine biology.

Walter Rhee

Liam

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May 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/23/00
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I read a survey that in the US, a biologist can make around $26,000 and a
Marine Biologist can make around $25,000. (For a typical BS degree) How can
this be right, please note I live in the UK so my info might be wrong ;) I
doubt I'm not the only person that governments would spend more money on
researching our oceans than sending expensive and flawed (most of the times)
probes into space.

I've only just begun a BS degree in Marine Biology here in the UK, which is
more specialised around Biotechnology, Diving and Ecology than most others I
have seen. Is this the right route?

Liam
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SeafoodAdv

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><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: Colleges for marine biology
>From: "Liam" <webm...@scottishwarriors.freeserve.co.uk>
>Date: Tue, May 23, 2000 14:57 EDT
>Message-id: <8gelmf$v0s$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>

>
>I read a survey that in the US, a biologist can make around $26,000 and a
>Marine Biologist can make around $25,000. (For a typical BS degree) How can
>this be right, please note I live in the UK so my info might be wrong ;) I
>doubt I'm not the only person that governments would spend more money on
>researching our oceans than sending expensive and flawed (most of the times)
>probes into space.
>
>I've only just begun a BS degree in Marine Biology here in the UK, which is
>more specialised around Biotechnology, Diving and Ecology than most others I
>have seen. Is this the right route?
>
>Liam
>li...@scottishwarriors.freeserve.co.uk

It is a lot easier to be flexible with non-specialization into other fields
than
specialist in one. If in marine biology, do take basic courses as a pre-med
would do. Calculus, Physics, Chemistry(Organic and beyond helps), and Biology
courses.

What I am trying to say is, it is OK to specialize, but do have the capability
of understanding other fields too. Because they are all interrelated.

In regards to how you should go about planning to BS degree in marine biology,
ask several(5-10)professors and make your own judgment.

Yes, beginning pay is $25K for bachelors
and usually plateaus around 45K after 10-13 years in the U. S. government(MS,
PhDs.) But you do have 2/3 of your pay paid to you until death after you
retire.

Bachelor's in the commercial sector begin with 35 to 42K in the first year if
you can find a job working with marine biology. The drawback is, commercial
sector jobs are not quite secure as government jobs.

A lot of people I knew began in the commercial sector then switched over to the
government.


Cheers,

Walter Rhee, "The Seafood Advisor"

Liam

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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> It is a lot easier to be flexible with non-specialization into other
fields
> than
> specialist in one. If in marine biology, do take basic courses as a
pre-med
> would do. Calculus, Physics, Chemistry(Organic and beyond helps), and
Biology
> courses.

I'm doing Statistics, Organic/Physical/Inorganic Chemistry and Environmental
biology right now, although I only have a choice in choosing Stats OR
Physics. Next year, I was recommended to drop the chemistry courses in
order to take on new Ecology modules designed for Marine Biology.

> What I am trying to say is, it is OK to specialize, but do have the
capability
> of understanding other fields too. Because they are all interrelated.

I'm beginning to see that as I look ahead at my course work.

> Yes, beginning pay is $25K for bachelors
> and usually plateaus around 45K after 10-13 years in the U. S.
government(MS,
> PhDs.) But you do have 2/3 of your pay paid to you until death after you
> retire.

The main point I was trying to make was how could a Biologist make more than
a Marien Biologist? Surely they should at least be equal! Or does the
specificness (don't know if that is a word) of Marine Biology reduce the
amount one earns.

> Bachelor's in the commercial sector begin with 35 to 42K in the first year
if
> you can find a job working with marine biology. The drawback is,
commercial
> sector jobs are not quite secure as government jobs.
>
> A lot of people I knew began in the commercial sector then switched over
to the
> government.

I'll probably be looking for a job here in the UK, but am faced with the two
problems most face:
A) I'll not have enough experience when I finish my course
B) Most research firms are looking for Masters Degrees as a base point. (I'm
still not sure whether I could still afford to do a Masters by the end of my
current course!)

> Cheers,
>
> Walter Rhee, "The Seafood Advisor"

Thanks for the help, Walter!

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SeafoodAdv

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May 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/24/00
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>The main point I was trying to make was how could a Biologist make more than
>a Marien Biologist? Surely they should at least be equal! Or does the
>specificness (don't know if that is a word) of Marine Biology reduce the
>amount one earns.
>
>

Biologist = general, more jobs.
Marine biologist = not more general, less jobs. It should have higher wages for
being a rare job. But because of rarity, competition is high, and people who
want the job & experience will take it in spite of lower wages than a
biologist. Of course the employer takes advantage with the "threat". There is a
waiting list for people who want this job...

Cheers,

Walter Rhee

Mark Schadler

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May 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/26/00
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>I read a survey that in the US, a biologist can make around $26,000 and a
>Marine Biologist can make around $25,000. (For a typical BS degree) How can
>this be right,

I think it's because the average biologist jobs include techs in pharmacy,
biotechnology jobs and positions which fringe on high paying inductries in the
medical field. Marine biology is a specialized aspect of biology, whic doesn't
have the funding of the biotechnology and medical fields.

As for someones comment about commercial jobs being less predictable, it seems
to me that the federal service can be just as volatile due to budget cuts.
However, once in the federal service, it is probably easier to move around than
if you were to get laid off or fired from a private sector job.

Your approaches for your education seem sound, but I am puzzled by the diving
part. I know of maybe one person I know who is a marine biologist (fisheries
biologist with the NMFS, actually) and actually uses her diving skills. I think
you are better off these days knowing something about remote sensing or field
techniques, since not much is done via scuba. Knowing biostatistics and a bit
about computer modeling always seems to be the key for some people I know.

Mark

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